From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V1 #176 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Tuesday, September 8 1998 Volume 01 : Number 176 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: ET: Re: thee question [Karen Miller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 20:30:24 -0700 From: Karen Miller Subject: RE: ET: Re: thee question Thank you! I dont know leo personally but he isa really nice guy. He went and saw a injuried gymnastics girl because she became paralist and she wanted to meet him from the make a wish foundation and he also had a speacial lunch for girls with cancer or lukiema he is a very sweet man. holly personally, that's a nice guy! And, from what i've heard, Leo aint all that in A LOT of ways! On Mon, 7 Sep 1998 21:05:33 -0400 "Kevin Pease" writes: >>> Scott - E Sykes writes: >>Why is it that women say they can't find a good man when one is most >>likely sitting next to him? > > My feeling on this is, they don't know they're sitting next to a >good >man if the good man doesn't speak up. :) I've been told that many >times, >and I think it's true, from people I know... A lot of the "nice" guys >I know >would range in a description of social abilities from "fairly shy" to >"downright antisocial"... I'd like to think I'm a pretty nice guy, and >I >still always have a lot of problems meeting women, and a lot of it is >because (as I've mentioned before), I *hate* starting conversations >with >people I don't know... I suck at it, plain and simple. That right >there is >probably 75% of the reason why the fact that I'm a "nice guy (tm)" >hasn't >show through. :) The same thing applies to a lot of my friends... >they're >real nice guys, but they're terrified to go up and talk to a girl. >(For the >record: I'm not terrified, I just sound like a complete moron... I >ain't >got that "je ne sais quois" (French for: "smooth-talking, >steroid-enhanced, >perfect-haired movie star look." :) ) > Another thing I believe is that some younger girls (and please >don't >beat me, 'cause a lot of you ARE younger than me... this is my >opinion, not >a sociological fact that I've established. There are undoubtedly >exceptions. :) seem to be looking for an "exciting" sort of guy... >there >comes an age where the nice guys actually have an edge (from what I've >seen, >after college, it seems to start reversing a bit), because the girls >are >looking for more than someone with attractive chin stubble and a fast >car. >(AGAIN: I am not naming names, or saying this is the way all girls >see >things, or even that this is the way MOST girls see things... I've >noticed >it in some, and I think this contributes to the attitude Scott >mentioned. >If you don't like what I'm saying, disagree... just don't mail bomb >me. :) >I can't really blame them... if I were a 17 year old girl, and I was >given >the option to choose between: Me, or Leonardo DiCaprio, I'd choose >Leonardo >hands down, too. He looks & seems more like the exciting type of guy, >who >will fly someone to Paris for the evening, and then maybe get involved >in a >high speed chase through Beverly Hills. Whereas *I* am the sort of >guy who >believes that driving fast is fun sometimes, but really... nobody wins >when >we play games with traffic safety. And you better forget about flying >to >Paris for the evening with me... I live within a budget. :) Guys who >can >come across as attractive, exciting, and "so money"... they're the >ones who >are more noticeable. I come across as average, cautious, and "well, I >have >a job at least...", and that's why I don't get noticed when I'm >standing >next to one of those other guys. > >>I've been told so many stories of abusive >>relationships where the girl gets hit or whatever and she's with him >to >>the day. I can understand the love does have a factor in >relationships >>but why him when right around the corner might be a guy who loves to >give >>flowers, lie underneath the stars talking about life and love's >little >>mysteries? > > There's a lot more to abusive relationships than love, though... >it has >a lot to do with "power" in the relationship, and the way the >particular guy >and girl approach their respective roles in the relationship... past >histories have a lot to do with this type of relationship as well. >Abusers >were often abused... Abusees were often abused, as well... many of the >abusers end up copying their childhood role models, and many of the >abusees >often can't break free from their attachment to their childhood >abusers... >unfortunately, a vicious cycle, and one that can't be explained by a >simple, >"He says he loves me," or "She says she loves me..." To many people >in >relationships like this, they have no real conception of the existence >of >people who *don't* abuse, and what it's like to be loved without the >fear of >being socked in the face... it's the norm, and it's accepted that >people hit >or get hit by both parties... It's not right, but it's the sad, >unfortunate >way it works. > > Kevin >---------- >Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net >(ICQ UIN: 3106063) (AOL Instant Messenger: kbpease) > http://www.crosswinds.net/boston/~kbpease >"Sometimes I sing like my life is at stake, > 'cause you're only as loud as the noises you make..." > ---(Ani DiFranco)--- > > ** Scott S.** -Big Sexy Angel "MISPLACED HATE MAKES DISGRACED RACES!" -Tupac Shakur R.I.P _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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