From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V1 #156 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Thursday, August 27 1998 Volume 01 : Number 156 Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: Re: Re: pictures on posts [kara garbe ] Re: ET: Re: haiku/80s [Angeljlb96@aol.com] Re: ET: SAM IS BAAA-AAACK!!!!!!!!! [Angeljlb96@aol.com] Re: ET: DOC's back! [Angeljlb96@aol.com] Re: ET: HAPPY!!! [Angeljlb96@aol.com] Re: ET: back to school [Angeljlb96@aol.com] ET: Re: [Angeljlb96@aol.com] Re: ET: Re: Re: pictures on posts [Angeljlb96@aol.com] Re: ET: Re: Re: pictures on posts ["Seth D. Fulmer" ] ET: Re: Re: Re: pictures on posts ["Kevin Pease" ] Re: ET: Re: haiku/80s ["Kevin Pease" ] Re: ET: SAM IS BAAA-AAACK!!!!!!!!! ["Kevin Pease" ] ET: Re: Re: ["Kevin Pease" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 01:25:34 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: kara garbe Subject: ET: Re: Re: pictures on posts > How come some of the FWD's from AOHellers..er..AOLer's (no offense to them > as people of course) like ANgelib, I think - the forwards from them are > attachments for IE 4 users (or maybe just me)? > something like that. :) Jamie's messages come to me as forwards with attachments a lot of the time too, and I'm using the Simeon email program... don't know if that matters... I was wondering about that too. so you're not alone! Kara _____________________________________________________ "Selfishness and separation have led me to believe that the world is not my problem, the world is not my problem i am the world and you are the world" --live "10,000 years (peace is now)" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 01:51:24 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: Re: haiku/80s In a message dated 8/25/98 3:45:22 PM Central Daylight Time, kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net writes: << what happens if I don't love it, though? >> the penalty is death by massive female beatings...you'll go with a smile. Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 01:58:02 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: SAM IS BAAA-AAACK!!!!!!!!! In a message dated 8/25/98 3:53:03 PM Central Daylight Time, kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net writes: << Hey, Seth, (and anybody else... in case you're interested... :) you should check out the original version of that song, by Ani DiFranco... I think it kicks a lot of butt over Alana's remake. (Just my opinion, mind you, I'm sure that Ms. Davis is a quite capable and accomplished musician... I just like the original version better. :) >> YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Definately...being a HUGE Ani fan...I must say so. And as far as I remember there is a whole section cut out of the Alana part...it's the part of her not "saying that I'm a saint...I just don't wanna live that way" Anyone wanna help cuz this is bugging me. I know at least one part is cut out. Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 02:13:55 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: DOC's back! DOC!!!!!!!!! So like...I saw the email and I went "DOC!!!!!!!!!!!!" so I figured it should be the heading. We SOOOOOOOOOOO missed you!!!! I thought you would've much of an asset to the whole beauty thread...but we're trying to get past that *sob* and...ya know...*sob* move on...SOOO...hi Doc Missed you love you blah blah blah... Love, Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 02:20:43 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: HAPPY!!! OHHH Palentir (?) I'm so happy for you!! I got the email...and the first thing I said was AWWWW...even though I don't know you...so CONGRATS!!!! And I'd like to see the pic if you feel like sending it to me. Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 02:36:15 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: back to school In a message dated 8/26/98 4:16:17 PM Central Daylight Time, ksg7t@virginia.edu writes: << oh, and another line for the music discussion, "i'm too sexy for my shirt, so sexy it hurts..." i got addicted to popup video for an hour today and that came on. >> LOL...as long as noone brings up NKOTB we're okay... OH and HI JEN!!!! Welcome to our happy home =) Refreshments to the left and entertainment to the right....oh wait... Love, Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 02:45:04 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: ET: Re: In a message dated 8/26/98 5:44:56 PM Central Daylight Time, moonsong@ix.netcom.com writes: << DOES ANYONE have real audio sound clips of Jewel's unreleased songs? >> yes yes yes =) I do I do! so ummm...got ICQ sam?? Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 02:55:26 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: Re: Re: pictures on posts In a message dated 8/27/98 12:26:02 AM Central Daylight Time, ksg7t@virginia.edu writes: << > How come some of the FWD's from AOHellers..er..AOLer's (no offense to them > as people of course) like ANgelib, I think - the forwards from them are > attachments for IE 4 users (or maybe just me)? > something like that. :) Jamie's messages come to me as forwards with attachments a lot of the time too, >> hmmm....I dunno! All I can say is I usually hit reply all...so it might go through to whoever I ....hell shutup Jamie...I really dunno guys =) Jamie (or ANgeljlb...as I was once called back in the 60's ;-)) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:53:05 -0400 From: "Seth D. Fulmer" Subject: Re: ET: Re: Re: pictures on posts At 01:25 AM 8/27/98 -0400, kara garbe wrote: >Jamie's messages come to me as forwards with attachments a lot of >the time too, and I'm using the Simeon email program... don't know >if that matters... I was wondering about that too. so you're not >alone! I know my mail program(whether it's the way it's set up or what) will take text attachments and "expand them inline"(or for all of you who don't know what that means...it'll show you the text). AOL probably sends the previous text of the message as an attachment, or your mail program interprets it as an attachment. I know that when I telnet to Voicenet and use the UNIX Pine mail program, it'll say: XX lines of text XX lines of Attachment/type text(or whatever type it is) XX lines of text but even though it says that, it expands the attachment below anyway sometimes. However, for some reason still...that one time I sent a poem as an attachment...it was purely text(like no Word97 or WordPerfect or anything like that) and the list refused it because I sent it as an attachment and not as simple text in the body of the email. Take care and Have a Great Day!! :) Seth Fulmer mailto:usfulmer@mcs.drexel.edu mailto:st96t879@post.drexel.edu mailto:kaosking@voicenet.com webpages: http://www.voicenet.com/~kaosking Cool Quotes and stuff :) "I come tonight I come to know The way we are The way we'll go." - "Thick As Thieves", Natalie Merchant ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:01:25 -0400 From: "Seth D. Fulmer" Subject: Re: ET: Re: At 02:45 AM 8/27/98 EDT, Angeljlb96@aol.com wrote: >yes yes yes =) I do I do! so ummm...got ICQ sam?? Ok, I gots 2 things...1 general thing and 1 particular thing for Jamie(*blush*). First of all, Who on this list has ICQ? Yeah, I'd like to add you to my list but I'm just curious so if you don't feel like it, don't feel bad. :) 2nd thing(for Jamie)...Alrighty, I got my stash primarily from you...What other treasures do you have? And I'm not just talking about Real Audio either...*eyes roll*..*j/k* :=) I am talking about MP3 and RA :) Seth D. Fulmer mailto:kaosking@voicenet.com ICQ UIN: 175984 - I'm set to Always so Add me if you want :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:53:07 -0400 From: "Kevin Pease" Subject: ET: Re: Re: Re: pictures on posts >> Robby VanSciver writes: >How come some of the FWD's from AOHellers..er..AOLer's (no offense to them >as people of course) like ANgelib, I think - the forwards from them are >attachments for IE 4 users (or maybe just me)? >something like that. :) I think this has something to do with the way AOL 'packages' the forwarded message, and the way some email programs treat forwarded messages. The AOL mail system uses some sort of MIME encoding that causes other mail readers to treat the forwarded message as an attachment. I know that when I receive forwarded messages from AOL, if I open up the File Properties dialog, it says in there that it's a multipart/mixed MIME 1.0 format message, which is translated by Outlook Express, at least, as an attachment. I'm not sure exactly how MIME works, but I suspect the MIME typing of the forwarded email has something to do with it. Mike C. seems to be the resident email & listserver guru... maybe he knows? :) Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) (AOL Instant Messenger: kbpease) http://www.crosswinds.net/boston/~kbpease "Try as I may, I could never explain, What I hear when you don't say a thing..." ---(Alison Krauss)--- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:09:09 -0700 From: moonsong@ix.netcom.com (Us) Subject: ET: Re: At 2:45 AM 8/27/1998, Angeljlb96@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 8/26/98 5:44:56 PM Central Daylight Time, >moonsong@ix.netcom.com writes: > ><< DOES ANYONE have real audio sound clips of > Jewel's unreleased songs? >> > >yes yes yes =) I do I do! so ummm...got ICQ sam?? > >Jamie I HAVE ICQ. =) I just can't remember the number. *grin* Hang on though and I'll check....5841441. There ya go. So ADD ME ON!!! (Kevin already knew I have ICQ, I talk to him sometimes na na na.) Sam the ? angel HP~~ http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/crazyunforgettable AOL IM~~ Samella45 Chat nick~~ Jezebel ICQ~~ 5841441 moonsong@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:28:26 EDT From: Linnea1221@aol.com Subject: ET: poem I love how my presence is felt they look up and down my body like predators the guys quick to cast their ballot on rating my gene structure and the girls take their time to pick apart every detail, my hips are kind of wide All the while I sit down without a word, not even my name. -Linnea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:31:04 -0400 From: "Kevin Pease" Subject: ET: Re: >> Sam writes: >Okay I just wanted ta say hi and DOES ANYONE have real audio sound clips of >Jewel's unreleased songs? I asked the Jewel list a long long time ago and >I accidentally deleted the person's list that they sent me, and Mike wouldn't >send my repost :). Unfortunately, I don't have any... but if anybody has the capability of doing it, you might get more bang for your buck from a layer-3 mpeg (.mp3) file... the sound quality is quite a bit better than RA (ever notice how it sounds a little 'tinny' and scratchy when you play the RA file?), if a little bit larger. Not-quite CD quality, but very good sound, if you have a good original sample. If anybody has a high-sample-rate .wav file of a song, you can compress .wav's into .mp3's pretty simply, and they're about 1/12 the size, with little-to-no loss in quality. I don't know if you anybody has a codec for RA (or if the decoder even exists, to tell the truth), but if you can decode one to .wav, and then encode the .wav into .mp3, the quality will probably be better than the RA. I've got a .wav-to-.mp3 encoder, but no RA to .wav decoder. Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) (AOL Instant Messenger: kbpease) http://www.crosswinds.net/boston/~kbpease "Try as I may, I could never explain, What I hear when you don't say a thing..." ---(Alison Krauss)--- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:40:21 -0400 From: "Kevin Pease" Subject: Re: ET: Re: haiku/80s >> Jamie writes: ><< what happens if I don't love it, though? >> >the penalty is death by massive female beatings...you'll go with a smile. WOOHOO! :) See now, this another example of me missing the boat somewhere along the way. If I had only known that this is the way to grab a little attention... [sigh] I wish somebody had told ME. :) Now I may have to lie, and say I didn't like it. :) Actually, I haven't had a chance to see it yet, so the jury's still out. I've been busy writing 13 different ~10 page release notices the past couple days... so I've been just a little bit distracted, but I sent them out for review, so now I chill out for a couple days and wait for people to send it back to me with little red marks all over it. :) Plus, my hockey team was busy upsetting the first-place team in the playoff semi-finals yesterday... 9 to 5 (they had an amazingly fast guy on their team, who kept getting all sorts of crazy-mad breakaways...), too... not even a close score. We crushed 'em. :) So now we get to get absolutely mauled next week, when we play the third place team in the finals. They're a bunch of Budweiser-fueled bruisers... the fun kind of team to play... they get angry for no reason, and start hitting people when they get behind... but hey, even if we lose, we're still in second place... not bad considering we ended the regular season in 5th place. :) So, anyway, point is, maybe I'll get a chance to watch it sometime this weekend. :) Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) (AOL Instant Messenger: kbpease) http://www.crosswinds.net/boston/~kbpease "Try as I may, I could never explain, What I hear when you don't say a thing..." ---(Alison Krauss)--- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:57:47 -0400 From: "Kevin Pease" Subject: Re: ET: SAM IS BAAA-AAACK!!!!!!!!! >> Jamie writes: >And as far as I remember there is a whole section cut out of the Alana >part...it's the part of her not "saying that I'm a saint...I just don't wanna >live that way" Anyone wanna help cuz this is bugging me. I know at least one >part is cut out. I can help, I think... According to the lyrics I'm looking at for Alana's version, and according to the version I'm listening to on Ani's Living In Clip cd, the following verses are missing from Alana's version: "Both my parents taught me about good will, and I have done well by their names, Just the kindness I've lavished on strangers is more than I can explain, Still there's many who've turned out their porch lights just so I would think they were not home and hid in the dark of their windows 'till I've passed and left them alone..." "I'm not saying that I am a saint, I just don't wanna live that way, I'll never be a saint, but I will always say... Squint your eyes and look closer, I'm not between you and your ambition, I am a poster girl with no poster, I am 32 flavors and then some..." Sound reasonable? Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) (AOL Instant Messenger: kbpease) http://www.crosswinds.net/boston/~kbpease "Try as I may, I could never explain, What I hear when you don't say a thing..." ---(Alison Krauss)--- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:27:56 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: ET: 32 Flavors sounds mighty reasonable...I thought so...I just didn't wanna say so if I was wrong =) You should get Ani's Not A Pretty Girl...it's got the studio recording of it...plus it's just a great cd =) Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:01:46 -0400 From: "Kevin Pease" Subject: ET: Re: 32 Flavors >>Jamie writes: >sounds mighty reasonable...I thought so...I just didn't wanna say so if I was >wrong =) You should get Ani's Not A Pretty Girl...it's got the studio >recording of it...plus it's just a great cd =) Hey, I'm way ahead of you... I already have the cd, just not with me... :) I can't bring my whole collection with me to work. :) I did work backwards, though... a girl I worked with when I was in college was way into Ani, and tried to get me into her, and it just didn't happen from the studio albums (or maybe I just wasn't ready for Ani at that point? Who knows. :)... then at some later point, I heard her live stuff, and I thought it was pretty good, so I picked up Living In Clip first, and then began buying some of her older stuff with songs on them I liked from the live stuff... it was better, for some reason, the second time around, I guess. :) Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) (AOL Instant Messenger: kbpease) http://www.crosswinds.net/boston/~kbpease "Sometimes I sing like my life is at stake, 'cause you're only as loud as the noises you make..." ---(Ani DiFranco)--- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:16:50 -0400 From: "Kevin Pease" Subject: ET: Re: Re: >> Sam writes: >I HAVE ICQ. =) I just can't remember the number. *grin* Hang on though >and I'll check....5841441. There ya go. So ADD ME ON!!! (Kevin already >knew I have ICQ, I talk to him sometimes na na na.) And what a chore it is, really. ;) You know, it's like, I'm just sitting there, minding my own business, trying to get all sorts of 'important work' (?! :) done, and I start getting all these messages. :) Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) (AOL Instant Messenger: kbpease) http://www.crosswinds.net/boston/~kbpease "Sometimes I sing like my life is at stake, 'cause you're only as loud as the noises you make..." ---(Ani DiFranco)--- ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V1 #156 **********************************