From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V1 #142 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Sunday, August 23 1998 Volume 01 : Number 142 Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: war [Jan Winters ] ET: haiku/80s [genben@usa.net] ET: Good things [jewel16f@juno.com (Heidi J Andrus)] ET: delayed response [kara garbe ] Re: ET: thanks & other good stuff [Angeljlb96@aol.com] Re: ET: haiku/80s [Angeljlb96@aol.com] ET: Intro.... [Steven J Neville ] Re: ET: songs that make you go grrrrrrr... [kara garbe Subject: ET: war angels i was thinking about war, about all this nonsense. i watch CNN constantly and CNBC. i'm one of those news buffs. i get a high off late breaking news. i have love affairs about peter jennings and dreams of being a reporter. my father was a hippie, so i have a lot of "flighty" views, my father is also in the government now so i have a lot of "realistic" views as well. i'm scared to death of germwar fare. terriost scare me shitless. i honestly believed that the US would fall from the americans, not from outsiders but now i think it will be a combination. the thing is, although i want to say "don't bomb" and i want to scream and shout and complain about all this nonsense, the truth of the matter is we aren't working with rational people right now. and that scares me even more. i wish i could just think about my tummy and how i hate the extra fat. and think about body image and personality image and all of that. i wish that i could spend my extra time watching ads about improved toasters, but the thing is something real is happening here. one thing to always remember is that people are people. we are all angels, and we all have demons in us. the whole point of life, in my opinion, is to let out the angel completelty and lose the demon. of course there are people that completely lost the angel and only have the demon. i guess what i'm trying to say is, you know the kids in the middle east? they are busy wondering about their weight, and shit. so we all are really the same. the problem is, there are some psycho's that hate certain groups because it's really easy to hate. and hate is something that can compeletly destroy someone, eat to the core of their soul. but there are some people that hate americans . and sometimes i know the bombing and everything seem so pointless, but think about the folks in the embassies, all around the world it must be scary living in one. an embassy is a lot like a church, it's the safe haven. you know how all of the horror movies show everyone running to the church about everything is fine? an embassy is some place that you can run to in a foreign land and be safe. that safe land, that piece of home was blown up. you have to remember those people as well. it's so complex and scary really, all of this talk of terriost and bombings. "why does it gotta be so complicated? why ya gotta tell me if i'm hated?" *sigh* i really hope this isn't a game to the poweful people. kat ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 04:23:49 From: genben@usa.net Subject: ET: haiku/80s Hey, So I sit here with a moment to myself for once (I've benn working CONSTANTLY at 4, count 'em, 4 jobs this week) and I choose to spend it with you guys and a bottle of wine. So I thought about the me thread, and, being the man of few words that I am (no laughs, please) I wrote a haiku. *me* the flow of current changes as each day passes and each breath is drawn So that's the haiku about me. I just couldn't bring myself to write a list poem, and being notorious for haiku (which I've never shared with y'all before) this is what came out. I just think that way sometimes, in 5-7-5. OH! The 80s thing. Now, this is a worthwhile discussion. There's a little club in Virginia where all the old bad 'big-haired' (to quote Kevin) bands like Warrant, Styxx, Cinderella, Enuff Znuff (bet you haven't thought of them for awhile, huh?), Sebastian Bach, etc. play all the time. If any of you DC metro area folks (I have no idea how many of you there are) want to do an excursion, I say we do it. One question, though. How did we overlook Devo for so long. 'Come on and whip it, whip it good.' Now that was fucking MUSIC. Ben ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 00:48:54 -0700 From: jewel16f@juno.com (Heidi J Andrus) Subject: ET: Good things Hi everyone it's me, I got a lot of smiles and happiness reading Kat's good things list. It was very good and I'm happy that we all can realize that we have good things to show off and stuff. Well anyways I just wanted to say that if you haven't made a list or poem yet go ahead and do it! You'll be amazed at how good you feel afterwards! Honestly! Smiles and giggles :o) Heidi *The Freckel Angel* E-mail at: Jewel16f@Juno.com also at: Jewel15f@aol.com AOL Instant Message: Jewel15f Web sites: http://www.vaio.net/spte.dll/web/JewelRocks http://www.angelfire.com/tn/JewelRocks/index.html _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 01:45:37 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: kara garbe Subject: ET: delayed response hi, i was out of town and am completely overwhelmed trying to catch up here. i'm still a few days behind but have one thing i want to say in response to the madness that awaited me upon my return from california. i'm gonna try to loosely quote good will hunting: "nobody's perfect. what matters is if that person is perfect for you." what i'm trying to say is kind of like the eye of the beholder thing. makeup, weight, face... all of that is bullshit. it's how you relate to the person and what you see in them. what you feel when you're around them. you can love a person for their "flaws" as much as for their "good" points. and what you see on the inside can alter what the outside appears to you. to truly love someone you have to love the "bad" as well.... what are bad traits? anger? jealousy? selfishness? i'm not trying to define the bad, but i personally think that most "problems" people have are traced to pain.... everybody has a reason for what they do. if you get under their skin and understand them, why they act and say and think the way that they do, then you can love them for that... maybe the scar on her cheek that mars her looks was from a time when she and her friends were attacked and one of them died.... maybe his temper when he yells at you is caused by the fact that you're getting so close and scaring him because his father abandoned him when he was seven and he doesn't want to lose another person who loves him.... if you don't look past the "bad" then you could be missing out on so much more. something bad on the outside can just be a sign that something is wrong inside.... something that you can help heal. okay, sorry that ended up longer than it was meant to be. i still have 92 unread messages in my ET folder so please forgive if i'm being redundant or belated! peace and love kara _____________________________________________________ "Selfishness and separation have led me to believe that the world is not my problem, the world is not my problem i am the world and you are the world" --live "10,000 years (peace is now)" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 03:15:40 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: thanks & other good stuff In a message dated 8/22/98 9:54:14 PM Central Daylight Time, Uneaq1@webtv.net writes: << BTW, I should clarify you guys with my lil' bro situation. Mom got a kick-ass lawyer (the best in 17 counies!!) and we're going to disprove all the lies told in the (and this is how Jake's dad & his new wife spelled it!!) affafavit (it should be affadavit), such as: >> That's so cool, Maggie! I hope everything works out!!!! Let us know... Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 03:17:49 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: haiku/80s In a message dated 8/22/98 11:25:01 PM Central Daylight Time, genben@usa.net writes: << How did we overlook Devo for so long. 'Come on and whip it, whip it good.' Now that was fucking MUSIC. >> MY GOD! Someone shoot me...I can't believe I missed that one!!! Go Ben =) Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 17:38:39 +1000 From: Steven J Neville Subject: ET: Intro.... Hi all I thought that I should write to the list and introduce myself. I've been subscribed for about three months now and have had three different ISP's, so I've refrained from posting until I had a permanent ISP. Anyway, I absolutely love all the poetry that gets posted, I've been saving all the one's that I enjoy in individual files for each person. I've got about 40 pages each from Sam and Naomi alone!!!! So......time to talk about me. I'm Steven Neville, 22 yo, I live in the Australian state of Tasmania ( Hello to any Aussies on the list :-), e-mail me). My city, Launceston, is the third oldest city in Australia, lot's of old heritage buildings, that sort of thing. I've worked for two banks, Trust Bank and Commonwealth Bank, and for the last three months I worked for Telstra, which is Australia's telecommunications company. Three weeks ago, I left Telstra in order to stand for election in the upcoming State election. Yes, I do want to be a politician !!!! I decided that one of the best ways of changing things for the better is to make the changes from the inside. Anyway, voting is this Saturday, 29th. I know now that I won't get elected, but I'm using this as an opportunity to build my profile and use it as a stepping stone for next time. I'm pretty envious of all the Americans on this list and on the Jewel list. You get to go to Jewel concerts and EDA get-togethers, LRT's, etc. I'm hoping to holiday in the States next year, so I'll be looking to schedule it so that I can attend Bearsville and any concerts that might be on. (Hopefully Jewel). I'm getting a bit long now, so quickly, I love to watch movies, love almost all styles of music, want to change the world and have probably only written one piece of poetry. I will post a piece when I finally sit down and try. Finally, check out my web-page at www.users.bigpond.com/sneville . It's nowhere near being finished at the moment. Not to sound vain, but with this 'me' and 'beauty' thread recently, can some of you wonderful ladies out there give me an honest opinion about how I look. I'm never overly successful with women, perhaps because I'm self-concious about how I look. I don't think I'm good-looking and this lowers my confidence when I'm around women that I'd like to get to know better or new women that I'd like to meet. My pic is on my web-page. Thanks in advance. I just need an honest, non-biased opinion from somebody who doesn't know me :-) Later Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 03:55:21 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: kara garbe Subject: Re: ET: songs that make you go grrrrrrr... > < ~Take on me, take on me...take me home!~ A-HA! i love it! did you hear the remake that... who was it.... some ska band did? disappointing.... > ~Everybody wants to rule the world...say that you'll never ever ever ever > leave me!~ hehe...Tears for Fears that is like the greatest song in the world... and have you seen the movie "real genius"? val kilmer in bunny slippers anyone? that song was at the end... whenever i hear it i think of popcorn. chris knight [val kilmer] : "was it that dream where you're standing naken on a pyramid in sun god robes and a thousand naked women are screaming and throwing little pickles at you?" mitch: "no." chris knight:"why am i the only one who has that dream?" (sorry that was from memory and i might be slightly off, however i can consult my video if anyone wants the exact wording of those great lines) > ~It's just another manic monday (oohaahooh) I wish it were Sunday (oohaahooh) > cuz that's my fun day (oohaahooh), my "I-don't-have-to-run" day...it's just > another manic monday~ THE BANGLES! (actually, Prince...) ~and all the cops in the donut shop say waaaay-oh way-ohhhhhh way oh way ohhhhhhh....... walk like an egyptian...~ > ~She's my cherry pie...put a smile on your face, ten miles wide...look so > good bring a tear to your eye...sweet cherry pie!~ Warrant woo hoo!!! another great 80s band!!! my best friend had this huge poster of them up in her room for years.... talk about the ultimate in big hair and leather... ~heaven isn't too far away.... getting closer to it every day.... no matter what your friends say, i know we're gonna find a way .... heaven... oh oh ohhhhhhh........ heaven.....~ Warrant > =) >> > > Sent those to Kev and thought you guys should see them...comeon! Help out! I > like this thread =) so do i!! rock on!! :) Kara _____________________________________________________ "Selfishness and separation have led me to believe that the world is not my problem, the world is not my problem i am the world and you are the world" --live "10,000 years (peace is now)" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 03:59:25 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: kara garbe Subject: ET: Re: songs that make you go grrrrrrr... ahhh sorry i replied to jamie's without first reading kevin's reply.... i actually have been sitting here reading like 60 or whatever posts in between talking to people on icq... what an exciting night it's been for me... woo hoo! ;-) > I think, for the sake of saving time, we can lump Warrant, Poison, > Saigon Kick, Trixter, Motley Crue, Skid Row, Firehouse, and all those other > spandex-clad, big-haired bands with shrieking lead singers, together into > one really bad memory. :) They all sounded pretty much the same, as I > remember. :) what blasphemy! just when i was beginning to like you... tsk tsk.... > And how about REO "I can't fight this feeling anymore..." Speedwagon? > :) now anyone who can even THINK about making fun of that song.... i'm speechless.... *sniff* love and peace and 80s big hair rock, kara :) _____________________________________________________ "Selfishness and separation have led me to believe that the world is not my problem, the world is not my problem i am the world and you are the world" --live "10,000 years (peace is now)" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 01:04:25 PDT From: "Amy Kelly" Subject: Re: ET: songs that make you go grrrrrrr... - ----Original Message Follows---- From: kara garbe Reply-To: lakini@virginia.edu To: Angeljlb96@aol.com, eda-thoughts@smoe.org Subject: Re: ET: songs that make you go grrrrrrr... Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 03:55:21 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) > < ~Take on me, take on me...take me home!~ A-HA! i love it! did you hear the remake that... who was it.... some ska band did? disappointing.... > ~Everybody wants to rule the world...say that you'll never ever ever ever > leave me!~ hehe...Tears for Fears that is like the greatest song in the world... and have you seen the movie "real genius"? val kilmer in bunny slippers anyone? that song was at the end... whenever i hear it i think of popcorn. chris knight [val kilmer] : "was it that dream where you're standing naken on a pyramid in sun god robes and a thousand naked women are screaming and throwing little pickles at you?" mitch: "no." chris knight:"why am i the only one who has that dream?" (sorry that was from memory and i might be slightly off, however i can consult my video if anyone wants the exact wording of those great lines) > ~It's just another manic monday (oohaahooh) I wish it were Sunday (oohaahooh) > cuz that's my fun day (oohaahooh), my "I-don't-have-to-run" day...it's just > another manic monday~ THE BANGLES! (actually, Prince...) ~and all the cops in the donut shop say waaaay-oh way-ohhhhhh way oh way ohhhhhhh....... walk like an egyptian...~ > ~She's my cherry pie...put a smile on your face, ten miles wide...look so > good bring a tear to your eye...sweet cherry pie!~ Warrant woo hoo!!! another great 80s band!!! my best friend had this huge poster of them up in her room for years.... talk about the ultimate in big hair and leather... ~heaven isn't too far away.... getting closer to it every day.... no matter what your friends say, i know we're gonna find a way .... heaven... oh oh ohhhhhhh........ heaven.....~ Warrant > =) >> > > Sent those to Kev and thought you guys should see them...comeon! Help out! I > like this thread =) so do i!! rock on!! :) Kara Brand new to the list.... assuming this "thread" is "Name that song and artist" trivia?? I'm better at guessing than creating but..... "Too many broken heart have fallen in the river" - hope I have this right. Name the original artist and the CCM/pop artist who covered it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V1 #142 **********************************