From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V16 #175 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, August 28 2011 Volume 16 : Number 175 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- First Happy song you heard [Michael Colford ] Re: First Happy song you heard [Robert Lovejoy ] Re: First Happy song you heard [Valerie Nozick ] Re: First Happy song you heard ["Robert Field" ] Seattle ectophiles? [Valerie Nozick ] First Happy song you heard [Steve VanDevender ] Re: First Happy song you heard [Paul Blair ] Re: First Happy song you heard [Paul Blair ] Re: First Happy song you heard [Gregory Bossert ] RESEEND Re: First Happy song you heard [robert bristow-johnson ] Re: RESEEND Re: First Happy song you heard [Gregory Bossert ] Re: First Happy song you heard [Alexander Johannesen ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 11:10:01 -0400 From: Michael Colford Subject: First Happy song you heard Hi Everyone, When I'm driving, I listen to my CDs in alphabetical order. I know, it sounds weird and anal, but in fact, it insures that I listen to everything I own; nothing gets neglected, and it also acts as a weeding mechanism. If I listen to a CD and know I'll never need to hear it again, I get rid of it. Anyway, that information is just to preface this potential ecto discussion topic, that I am sure has been discussed before, but I'm curious to see people's responses again. I apologize if this is an old and tired topic. Anyway, as you may have guessed, I'm in the "R's", and in fact, smack dab in the middle of Happy Rhodes. (It's also a great way to turn passengers on to music they may never have heard). The first Happy Rhodes album I bought was Equipoise, and thus, the very first Happy song I ever heard was the opening track, "Runners." As such, "Runners" remains, to this day, one of my favorite Happy Rhodes songs. I immediately fell in love with that song the first time I listened to it. Such a dark song with an upbeat melody, I enjoy that kind of dichotomy. Of course, that amazing voice blew me away. I had been on the ecto mailing list for a time before purchasing my first Happy Rhodes CD, so I had a vague idea what to expect, but the reality of it was both jarring and wonderful. That complex experience of hearing Happy's voice for the first time was something I was very fortunate enough to experience again upon hearing her perform live. I'm curious to find out what others' first Happy Rhodes experience was, and what your initial reactions were? Anyone care to share? Thanks, Michael P.S. Because it was my first, Equipoise remains one of my favorite Happy Rhodes albums. Michael R. Colford Chlotrudis Society for Independent Film, President P.O. Box 301237 Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 781 526-5384 colford@chlotrudis.org http://www.chlotrudis.org/ "Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion!" - -- Kittie Farmer, Donnie Darko ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:14:59 -0400 From: Robert Lovejoy Subject: Re: First Happy song you heard Warpaint was my intro, came on the car radio (WXPN). Had to pull over and Listen! Bob Lovejoy - -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Michael Colford wrote: Hi Everyone, When I'm driving, I listen to my CDs in alphabetical order. I know, it sounds weird and anal, but in fact, it insures that I listen to everything I own; nothing gets neglected, and it also acts as a weeding mechanism. If I listen to a CD and know I'll never need to hear it again, I get rid of it. Anyway, that information is just to preface this potential ecto discussion topic, that I am sure has been discussed before, but I'm curious to see people's responses again. I apologize if this is an old and tired topic. Anyway, as you may have guessed, I'm in the "R's", and in fact, smack dab in the middle of Happy Rhodes. (It's also a great way to turn passengers on to music they may never have heard). The first Happy Rhodes album I bought was Equipoise, and thus, the very first Happy song I ever heard was the opening track, "Runners." As such, "Runners" remains, to this day, one of my favorite Happy Rhodes songs. I immediately fell in love with that song the first time I listened to it. Such a dark song with an upbeat melody, I enjoy that kind of dichotomy. Of course, that amazing voice blew me away. I had been on the ecto mailing list for a time before purchasing my first Happy Rhodes CD, so I had a vague idea what to expect, but the reality of it was both jarring and wonderful. That complex experience of hearing Happy's voice for the first time was something I was very fortunate enough to experience again upon hearing her perform live. I'm curious to find out what others' first Happy Rhodes experience was, and what your initial reactions were? Anyone care to share? Thanks, Michael P.S. Because it was my first, Equipoise remains one of my favorite Happy Rhodes albums. Michael R. Colford Chlotrudis Society for Independent Film, President P.O. Box 301237 Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 781 526-5384 colford@chlotrudis.org http://www.chlotrudis.org/ "Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion!" - -- Kittie Farmer, Donnie Darko ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 10:24:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Valerie Nozick Subject: Re: First Happy song you heard I think my first Happy song was "Warpaint", and it was played for me by Meth at college at Wesleyan. I really didn't take to her music at first, but joined ecto because it included my favorite people from rec.music.gaffa. Eventually I gave Happy another listen and realized what I fool I had been :) ==> Valerie From: Michael Colford To: Ecto Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 11:10 AM Subject: First Happy song you heard Hi Everyone, When I'm driving, I listen to my CDs in alphabetical order. I know, it sounds weird and anal, but in fact, it insures that I listen to everything I own; nothing gets neglected, and it also acts as a weeding mechanism. If I listen to a CD and know I'll never need to hear it again, I get rid of it. Anyway, that information is just to preface this potential ecto discussion topic, that I am sure has been discussed before, but I'm curious to see people's responses again. I apologize if this is an old and tired topic. Anyway, as you may have guessed, I'm in the "R's", and in fact, smack dab in the middle of Happy Rhodes. (It's also a great way to turn passengers on to music they may never have heard). The first Happy Rhodes album I bought was Equipoise, and thus, the very first Happy song I ever heard was the opening track, "Runners." As such, "Runners" remains, to this day, one of my favorite Happy Rhodes songs. I immediately fell in love with that song the first time I listened to it. Such a dark song with an upbeat melody, I enjoy that kind of dichotomy. Of course, that amazing voice blew me away. I had been on the ecto mailing list for a time before purchasing my first Happy Rhodes CD, so I had a vague idea what to expect, but the reality of it was both jarring and wonderful. That complex experience of hearing Happy's voice for the first time was something I was very fortunate enough to experience again upon hearing her perform live. I'm curious to find out what others' first Happy Rhodes experience was, and what your initial reactions were? Anyone care to share? Thanks, Michael P.S. Because it was my first, Equipoise remains one of my favorite Happy Rhodes albums. Michael R. Colford Chlotrudis Society for Independent Film, President P.O. Box 301237 Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 781 526-5384 colford@chlotrudis.org http://www.chlotrudis.org/ "Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion!" - -- Kittie Farmer, Donnie Darko ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:27:35 -0400 From: "Robert Field" Subject: Re: First Happy song you heard When the Rain Came Down was mine. I couldn't believe Annie Lennox and Kate Bush did a duet and I hadn't heard about it. Turns out it was Happy. Hooked ever since! - -----Original Message----- From: Robert Lovejoy Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 1:14 PM To: Michael Colford ; Ecto Subject: Re: First Happy song you heard Warpaint was my intro, came on the car radio (WXPN). Had to pull over and Listen! Bob Lovejoy - -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Michael Colford wrote: Hi Everyone, When I'm driving, I listen to my CDs in alphabetical order. I know, it sounds weird and anal, but in fact, it insures that I listen to everything I own; nothing gets neglected, and it also acts as a weeding mechanism. If I listen to a CD and know I'll never need to hear it again, I get rid of it. Anyway, that information is just to preface this potential ecto discussion topic, that I am sure has been discussed before, but I'm curious to see people's responses again. I apologize if this is an old and tired topic. Anyway, as you may have guessed, I'm in the "R's", and in fact, smack dab in the middle of Happy Rhodes. (It's also a great way to turn passengers on to music they may never have heard). The first Happy Rhodes album I bought was Equipoise, and thus, the very first Happy song I ever heard was the opening track, "Runners." As such, "Runners" remains, to this day, one of my favorite Happy Rhodes songs. I immediately fell in love with that song the first time I listened to it. Such a dark song with an upbeat melody, I enjoy that kind of dichotomy. Of course, that amazing voice blew me away. I had been on the ecto mailing list for a time before purchasing my first Happy Rhodes CD, so I had a vague idea what to expect, but the reality of it was both jarring and wonderful. That complex experience of hearing Happy's voice for the first time was something I was very fortunate enough to experience again upon hearing her perform live. I'm curious to find out what others' first Happy Rhodes experience was, and what your initial reactions were? Anyone care to share? Thanks, Michael P.S. Because it was my first, Equipoise remains one of my favorite Happy Rhodes albums. Michael R. Colford Chlotrudis Society for Independent Film, President P.O. Box 301237 Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 781 526-5384 colford@chlotrudis.org http://www.chlotrudis.org/ "Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion!" - -- Kittie Farmer, Donnie Darko ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 10:26:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Valerie Nozick Subject: Seattle ectophiles? Hi ecto! I don't post much here anymore, but have been lurking all this time. :-) Anyhow, I'm looking for some advice from Seattle ectophiles. I'm moving there in 2 weeks, and would love to know who lives out there, and good music places. I'll be living near Ravenna Park and working in Bellevue. Thanks in advance, and I hope to get to see some people whose names I have known for so many years! ==> Valerie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:36:47 -0700 From: Steve VanDevender Subject: First Happy song you heard Michael Colford writes: > I'm curious to find out what others' first Happy Rhodes experience > was, and what your initial reactions were? Anyone care to share? In early 1991 I sent off for Rhodes I and Rhodes II, sound unheard, based on Vickie's glowing recommendations in rec.music.gaffa. So the first Happy Rhodes song I heard was "Rainkeeper". Which was OK, but a moment later "Oh the Drears" started and I was completely floored. Of course I sent off for Rearmament and Ecto immediately, and every subsequent album as it appeared (fortunately Warpaint was only a few months away at that time). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:55:20 -0400 From: robert bristow-johnson Subject: Re: Seattle ectophiles? On 8/27/11 1:26 PM, Valerie Nozick wrote: > Hi ecto! > > I don't post much here anymore, but have been lurking all this > time. :-) > > Anyhow, I'm looking for some advice from Seattle ectophiles. never been to Seattle, but the Two Loons for Tea (Sarah Scott and Jonathan Kotchmer) live there. i don't know how often they perform. it might be that the last time they did was at the Valentine's Eve Fest (in Brooklyn, not Seattle) in 2010. - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:16:50 -0400 From: robert bristow-johnson Subject: Re: First Happy song you heard On 8/27/11 11:10 AM, Michael Colford wrote: > Anyway, as you may have guessed, I'm in the "R's", and in fact, smack dab in the middle of Happy Rhodes. Happy's not in the "H's"? you wait all the way to R? > I'm curious to find out what others' first Happy Rhodes experience was, and what your initial reactions were? Anyone care to share? i've seen this topic here before, but it's a good one. i had never heard of Happy Rhodes at all until i heard her sing Save our Souls on the radio show "Echoes", sometime around 1995. total jaw-dropping amazement. (this performance, among other songs she did for the Living Room concert, has been kept for us in The Keep, something i am quite grateful to Happy for.) later Echoes played instrumentals like Skimming the Hovergear, Like Krytonite to Superman. then i was really sold. all this before Many Worlds came out. - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:36:42 -0700 From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: First Happy song you heard Isn't it weird to think about how complicated acquiring new music used to be? I remember reading about HR through Vickie's posts on rec.music.gaffa, deciding that I had to hear her, calling a couple of good record stores in Baltimore, where I lived at the time, and getting very incredulous responses ("Happy what?"). Finally I was able to find a store in Towson that carried a few of them, and bought "Equipoise" because it had the least scary cover. I will admit that I was really put off by the artwork on her CDs. What can I say, I don't like monsters. Nowadays there's no thrill of the chase... I would just have fired up Rhapsody or gone to her Bandcamp/Facebook/MySpace/whatever page and streamed her albums. Kids today have it so easy ;) I sometimes wonder what she's up to, if she's making new music, perhaps just for her own enjoyment. I hope whatever she's doing that she's found some measure of peace & happiness. Actually, I hope the same for Vickie as well. - --Sue On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:16 AM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: > On 8/27/11 11:10 AM, Michael Colford wrote: >> >> Anyway, as you may have guessed, I'm in the "R's", and in fact, smack dab >> in the middle of Happy Rhodes. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 16:42:41 -0400 From: Paul Blair Subject: Re: First Happy song you heard Michael Colford writes: > I'm curious to find out what others' first Happy Rhodes experience > was, and what your initial reactions were? Anyone care to share? Vickie had put up short clips from *Warpaint* somewhere on the Internet in 1995 or 1996; I think I found them via her posts on Usenet. I'm pretty sure the first one I listened to was "Phobos," though it was only 10 seconds at best. I got *Warpaint* soon after, so I'm pretty sure the first complete Happy Rhodes song I heard was "Waking Up." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 16:50:32 -0400 From: Paul Blair Subject: Re: First Happy song you heard Actually, those who are friends of Vickie's Happy Rhodes Fans page on Facebook may have seen a post by Sharon Nichols on Aug. 9 as follows: "Happy says she's working on writing a new album and would possibly like to do a webcast concert in the next year or so... =)" See Vickie's comments there for (not too much) more. It's really too bad that Vickie isn't on ecto anymore. On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Sue Trowbridge wrote: > Isn't it weird to think about how complicated acquiring new music used > to be? I remember reading about HR through Vickie's posts on > rec.music.gaffa, deciding that I had to hear her, calling a couple of > good record stores in Baltimore, where I lived at the time, and > getting very incredulous responses ("Happy what?"). Finally I was able > to find a store in Towson that carried a few of them, and bought > "Equipoise" because it had the least scary cover. I will admit that I > was really put off by the artwork on her CDs. What can I say, I don't > like monsters. > > Nowadays there's no thrill of the chase... I would just have fired up > Rhapsody or gone to her Bandcamp/Facebook/MySpace/whatever page and > streamed her albums. Kids today have it so easy ;) > > I sometimes wonder what she's up to, if she's making new music, > perhaps just for her own enjoyment. I hope whatever she's doing that > she's found some measure of peace & happiness. Actually, I hope the > same for Vickie as well. > > --Sue > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 9:16 AM, robert bristow-johnson > wrote: > > On 8/27/11 11:10 AM, Michael Colford wrote: > >> > >> Anyway, as you may have guessed, I'm in the "R's", and in fact, smack > dab > >> in the middle of Happy Rhodes. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 14:07:29 -0700 From: Gregory Bossert Subject: Re: First Happy song you heard hmmm, first Happy song was "Poetic Justice or "Ecto" or something else from the Ecto album -- i forget which song was actually played first... November 17, 1990, in London, after the Kate Bush convention in Hammersmith. Vickie had a little boombox, and played Happy to the 20-odd of us that ate dinner afterwards in the basement of an Italian restaurant. though i think Vickie actually played a track or two before we got to the restaurant. it was all a bit of a muddle at the time, and the years have not been kind to the braincells... i was blown away, though, and ordered the first four cassette collections as soon as i got back to the US. and within a year, i'd met Woj and Meth and Jessica and hosts of others, and within another year, give or take, i was sharing an office with Jessica at Rutgers and and helping maintain the ecto list... speaking of being blown away: i hope all of you being hurricaned upon stay safe and ry! 'tah - -g - -- www.gregorynormanbossert.com -- - -- www.suddensound.com -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 17:42:40 -0400 From: robert bristow-johnson Subject: RESEEND Re: First Happy song you heard i dunno who the list server is, but my posts are never posted to the list very promptly and sometimes never appear at all. this is my second attempt. On 8/27/11 11:10 AM, Michael Colford wrote: > Anyway, as you may have guessed, I'm in the "R's", and in fact, smack dab in the middle of Happy Rhodes. Happy's not in the "H's"? you wait all the way to R? > I'm curious to find out what others' first Happy Rhodes experience was, and what your initial reactions were? Anyone care to share? i've seen this topic here before, but it's a good one. i had never heard of Happy Rhodes at all until i heard her sing Save our Souls on the radio show "Echoes", sometime around 1995. total jaw-dropping amazement. (this performance, among other songs she did for the Living Room concert, has been kept for us in The Keep, something i am quite grateful to Happy for.) later Echoes played instrumentals like Skimming the Hovergear, Like Krytonite to Superman. then i was really sold. all this before Many Worlds came out. - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 17:44:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Kate McNally Subject: Re: First Happy song you heard I first heard Happy's music in a music store in 1998; I was eleven years old, and I like to think of Happy as my first love. The song was 100 Years, as Many Worlds had just been released. I sometimes wonder what she's up to, if she's making new music, perhaps just for her own enjoyment. I hope whatever she's doing that she's found some measure of peace & happiness. Actually, I hope the same for Vickie as well. Sue, you should check out Happy's Facebook page. Vickie updates it regularly, and I remember reading something about Happy working on some new music recently. Plus it's always cool to see people talking about Happy. https://www.facebook.com/groups/happyrhodesfans/ Kate - -----Original Message----- From: Michael Colford To: Ecto Sent: Sat, Aug 27, 2011 10:21 am Subject: First Happy song you heard Hi Everyone, When I'm driving, I listen to my CDs in alphabetical order. I know, it sounds eird and anal, but in fact, it insures that I listen to everything I own; othing gets neglected, and it also acts as a weeding mechanism. If I listen to CD and know I'll never need to hear it again, I get rid of it. Anyway, that nformation is just to preface this potential ecto discussion topic, that I am ure has been discussed before, but I'm curious to see people's responses again. apologize if this is an old and tired topic. Anyway, as you may have guessed, I'm in the "R's", and in fact, smack dab in the iddle of Happy Rhodes. (It's also a great way to turn passengers on to music hey may never have heard). The first Happy Rhodes album I bought was quipoise, and thus, the very first Happy song I ever heard was the opening rack, "Runners." As such, "Runners" remains, to this day, one of my favorite appy Rhodes songs. I immediately fell in love with that song the first time I istened to it. Such a dark song with an upbeat melody, I enjoy that kind of ichotomy. Of course, that amazing voice blew me away. I had been on the ecto ailing list for a time before purchasing my first Happy Rhodes CD, so I had a ague idea what to expect, but the reality of it was both jarring and wonderful. hat complex experience of hearing Happy's voice for the first time was omething I was very fortunate enough to experience again upon hearing her erform live. I'm curious to find out what others' first Happy Rhodes experience was, and what our initial reactions were? Anyone care to share? Thanks, ichael .S. Because it was my first, Equipoise remains one of my favorite Happy Rhodes lbums. Michael R. Colford hlotrudis Society for Independent Film, President .O. Box 301237 amaica Plain, MA 02130 81 526-5384 olford@chlotrudis.org ttp://www.chlotrudis.org/ "Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion!" - -- Kittie Farmer, Donnie Darko ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 15:03:20 -0700 From: Gregory Bossert Subject: Re: RESEEND Re: First Happy song you heard On Aug 27, 2011, at 2:42 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: > i dunno who the list server is, but my posts are never posted to the list very promptly and sometimes never appear at all. > this is my second attempt. Robert, i saw your first post here at 9:16PDT, just before your "Seattle ectophiles?" response, so perhaps the issue may be with delivery back to you...? i do see occasional delays in posts, but given that running a private list like this is a labor of love -- requiring plenty of both -- i have no complaints. i moderate lists via both Yahoo and Google, and the level of spam and the clunkiness of the moderator tools makes them a real chore... because of the setup of the list -- no tag in the subject, reply-to the original poster -- i find it difficult to keep posts from getting caught in my spam filters. but the list is set that way by popular vote, after a great deal of deliberation, so once again, i have no complaints... - -- www.gregorynormanbossert.com -- - -- www.suddensound.com -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 15:55:04 -0700 (PDT) From: neile Subject: Re: Seattle ectophiles? Hi, Valerie-- Not too many active ectophiles here--I think Tamar and I are the only ones, and I don't go to so very many live shows these days. Though I did go to see the Smoke Fairies open for Rasputina a couple of weeks ago. They were great adn I mostly enjoyed Rasputina as well. We are both in Ballard, though we (Jim, former ectophile) and I live closer to Greenwood than downtown Ballard. - --Neile On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, Valerie Nozick wrote: > Hi ecto! > > I don't post much here anymore, but have been lurking all this > time. :-) > > Anyhow, I'm looking for some advice from Seattle ectophiles. I'm > moving there in 2 weeks, and would love to know who lives out there, and good > music places. I'll be living near Ravenna Park and working in Bellevue. > > Thanks in advance, and I hope to get to see some people whose names I have > known for so many years! > > ==> Valerie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 10:02:16 +1000 From: Alexander Johannesen Subject: Re: First Happy song you heard My first Rhodesgasm was back when Pandora.com was available in Australia - I think around 2004-05 - and of course I had set up a channel for Kate Bush. And then along came "Ra", which still to this day is my first love. I think the second I heard was "Tivoli", and I have been a devoted fan ever since. Alex - -- Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchemist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic Maps - --- http://shelter.nu/blog/ ---------------------------------------------- - ------------------ http://www.google.com/profiles/alexander.johannesen --- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 21:32:28 -0400 From: robert bristow-johnson Subject: my apologies... ... about the "RESEND" message. i think i remember that Jeff Walsilko is the list admin. Sorry Jeff. every once in a while my post disappears and this was a conversation that i was feeling left out of. long ago, i was "posting" to the ecto list via USENET (this list was reflected to fa.music.ecto) not knowing that nobody was reading my posts unless they were reading it from the Google Groups archive. a year later i discovered the truth about it. so since, i've been watching if my posts appear. i don't completely understand how often the server (wherever it is, physically, is it in Jeff's home or place of business or something?) picks up messages and then sends them out. other lists (like the music-dsp list that i participate in) does it almost immediately. anyway, i just need to be more of a patient person. apologies to everyone else. (listening to Noe's "Army of Nows", amazing song.) - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V16 #175 ***************************