From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V16 #1055 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, March 27 2014 Volume 16 : Number 1055 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: foreign credit/debit cards [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] Re: foreign credit/debit cards [neal copperman ] Re: okay, fellow foreigners ["A.W. Fields" ] Re: foreign credit/debit cards [Karen Hester ] Re: okay, fellow foreigners [Ellen Rawson ] Re: okay, fellow foreigners [Sue Trowbridge ] Re: So Kate Bush preorder codes are transferable ["A.W. Fields" ] Re: okay, fellow foreigners ["F.J.Fornorn" ] Re: okay, fellow foreigners [Ellen Rawson ] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: okay, fellow foreigners [Michael Matthews ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 21:55:19 -0500 From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: foreign credit/debit cards There will be lengthy waits at checkpoints, and the subtitle for the concert will actually be "The West Bank," it has been conceptualized as experiential theater. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:13 PM, neal copperman wrote: > I have trouble imagining that they are going to be checking ID s against > tickets at the door. That would be a logistical nightmare. It makes sense > for picking up tix at will call, but not for tickets that they mail. > > Though I don t know how it is all working either . > > neal > > > On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Karen Hester wrote: > > > No Neal, this won't work - they say the credit card holder's name is on > the > > ticket, so whoever stepped in to buy them would have to turn up to the > > venue. The only US option is for it to be sent by mail anyway (with big > > postage costs!) Haven't they heard of printers? > > > > K > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:54:22 -0600 > >> From: neal copperman > >> Subject: Re: foreign credit/debit cards > >> > >> If you, or anyone, wants to be a proxy for us poor backwards Americans, > I > >> m sure it d be welcome. > >> > >> Some US folks have managed to purchase tickets too. So anyone with a > >> proven capacity to buy tickets could jump in as well. > >> > >> It seemed like one of the options was to have tickets mailed. If we > >> sprung for the extra expense of that, you d get around all the box > office > >> ID restrictions. I was surprised to see that was an option, as it > seems > >> like they are working hard to fight scalping and mailing tickets would > undo > >> a lot of that work. > >> > >> Of course, there is some bother offering to buy tickets for people, as > >> well as some potential financial burden. I d certainly understand if > >> people didn t want to take that on. > >> > >> neal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 17:02:27 -0400 From: "A.W. Fields" Subject: Re: foreign credit/debit cards There's still a 4 seat limit with ID for the primary booker, all. So prepare for an Ecto meetup if you all pitch in, cuz your best odds are to grab the group for four people and then go all in, rather than try separate seats. I tried to do that during the presale today and took too long. I got a single ticket for a single date, and when I was filling out the address (distracted at work) for the second, I lost the seat. They all sold out within minutes after that. Good luck and if I can provide any tips or help, let me know. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2014, at 4:54 PM, neal copperman wrote: If you, or anyone, wants to be a proxy for us poor backwards Americans, Im sure itd be welcome. Some US folks have managed to purchase tickets too. So anyone with a proven capacity to buy tickets could jump in as well. It seemed like one of the options was to have tickets mailed. If we sprung for the extra expense of that, youd get around all the box office ID restrictions. I was surprised to see that was an option, as it seems like they are working hard to fight scalping and mailing tickets would undo a lot of that work. Of course, there is some bother offering to buy tickets for people, as well as some potential financial burden. Id certainly understand if people didnt want to take that on. neal On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Henning Rech wrote: > Can I help you anyway? As I am from the other side of the pond I would not > expect problems of this kind for my MC. > > Henning > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Hester" > To: "Ecto" > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:51 PM > Subject: foreign credit/debit cards > > >> My bank says they can do everything on their end to make my card work over >> the internet, but if Visa is suspicious of a foreign ticketing site, it's >> possible nothing will work. My card isn't eligible for 'verified by visa.' >> >> So. >> >> Trying ticketmaster on Friday, I guess. >> K ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 16:13:26 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: foreign credit/debit cards I have trouble imagining that they are going to be checking IDs against tickets at the door. That would be a logistical nightmare. It makes sense for picking up tix at will call, but not for tickets that they mail. Though I dont know how it is all working either. neal On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Karen Hester wrote: > No Neal, this won't work - they say the credit card holder's name is on the > ticket, so whoever stepped in to buy them would have to turn up to the > venue. The only US option is for it to be sent by mail anyway (with big > postage costs!) Haven't they heard of printers? > > K > > >> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:54:22 -0600 >> From: neal copperman >> Subject: Re: foreign credit/debit cards >> >> If you, or anyone, wants to be a proxy for us poor backwards Americans, I >> m sure it d be welcome. >> >> Some US folks have managed to purchase tickets too. So anyone with a >> proven capacity to buy tickets could jump in as well. >> >> It seemed like one of the options was to have tickets mailed. If we >> sprung for the extra expense of that, you d get around all the box office >> ID restrictions. I was surprised to see that was an option, as it seems >> like they are working hard to fight scalping and mailing tickets would undo >> a lot of that work. >> >> Of course, there is some bother offering to buy tickets for people, as >> well as some potential financial burden. I d certainly understand if >> people didn t want to take that on. >> >> neal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 17:06:59 -0400 From: "A.W. Fields" Subject: Re: okay, fellow foreigners PS-- my bank also sent me a text message and an email to confirm the charges, despite having Verify by Visa. Be prepared. Possibly buy a small item on a non-US website beforehand or notify your bank. It was a large purchase abroad so it's gonna raise flags. No PayPal, unfortunately. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2014, at 4:59 PM, "A.W. Fields" wrote: Someone on a FB group gave me a passcode. I got mine because several years ago I did the Visa Verify through my bank. So grateful. Anyone else get through? Best of luck on Friday, team. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 26, 2014, at 4:00 PM, jessica spurling wrote: With all the trouble people are having getting tickets, I'm almost glad I'm not trying to buy one. It sounds incredibly frustrating. I hope everyone here who is trying for tickets is able to get them. Almost glad, but not quite. Sigh. I really wish I could go! Good luck to all of you. Has anyone had success yet? - -jessica On Mar 26, 2014 10:52 AM, "neal copperman" wrote: >> It may have been your American >> credit/debit card thought it was someone trying to use your card, which > is why >> the fraud people contacted you. > > That s definitely what it is. It s non-standard behavior that triggers > all their alarms. > > I called both my MC and Visa cards. They said those restrictions are > added by the merchants, not by the card. It s something they can add on. > It s not something that we can sign up for, give advance notice on or plan > for. Advance notice is just for when you are traveling, not making > on-line purchases. > > I had sent a note to the ticketing company and they actually gave me a new > code (!!!). I was afraid to use it, so I called them, but they said I > couldn t use it over the phone and that it was only good until 6 in the UK > (about 40 minutes away). So I just hopped on to do it and the exact same > thing happened. > > I had talked with my MC people and they said my card should be safe for > purchases with the vendor now, but I still couldn t get through. > > I then used my VISA card, which I had also just called. It kicked out the > charge and locked up my card too. I got a fraud phone call before I was > done with the order. Of course, I still couldn t get the order done either. > > First time I had tix in row J in the stalls (so 10th row). This time I > had tix in row E in the back area, so around 35th row. > > The woman on the phone said that all the fan club tickets have now been > sold. > > I m not convinced I can actually buy tickets on-line through the system at > all. > > neal > > > On Mar 26, 2014, at 11:14 AM, Ellen Rawson wrote: > >> It's MasterCard Secure Code in the UK. Verified by Visa, indeed, is for > Visa, >> whether it's a Visa credit or debit card. >> >> It may have been your American >> credit/debit card thought it was someone trying to use your card, which > is why >> the fraud people contacted you. They're not used to you using British > websites >> to buy a couple of hundred pounds worth of concert tickets. :( >> >> Ellen >> >> >> >> "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." >> -- JRR Tolkien >>> ________________________________ >>> From: neal copperman >>> To: >> Karen Hester >>> Cc: neal copperman ; >> ecto >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:50 PM >>> Subject: Re: >> okay, fellow foreigners >>> >>> >>> So what kinds of cards and pre-purchase setups >> did people use that worked? >>> >>> I was using a Master Card, not a Visa. So its >> not Verify for Visa, but obviously something similar. >>> >>> The CC fraud people >> called and woke me up 3 hours after I couldnt by my tickets, so Im going > to >> talk to them now. >>> >>> But itd be great to be sure everything is in order >> before trying again. >>> >>> neal >>> >>> >>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Karen Hester >> wrote: >>> >>>> you have to sign up to 'verify for visa' >> to buy Kate tickets. I got front >>>> section ones and then my card was denied. >>>> grrrrrrrrjkdsfjkfdlkdasjjdkasfjkgrrrrrr >>>> The pre-sale seemed to have lots >> of seats, I didn't see anyone who was >>>> refreshing on the dot fail to find >> seats. >>>> >>>> I've never had verification problems before - you know how it >> hangs there, >>>> saying 'verifying' and then gloriously says 'yes' after a few >> seconds - but >>>> this is an additional level involving an extra password. >>>> >>>> K (sleepy, disappointed K) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 17:08:40 -0400 From: Karen Hester Subject: Re: foreign credit/debit cards No Neal, this won't work - they say the credit card holder's name is on the ticket, so whoever stepped in to buy them would have to turn up to the venue. The only US option is for it to be sent by mail anyway (with big postage costs!) Haven't they heard of printers? K > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:54:22 -0600 > From: neal copperman > Subject: Re: foreign credit/debit cards > > If you, or anyone, wants to be a proxy for us poor backwards Americans, I > m sure it d be welcome. > > Some US folks have managed to purchase tickets too. So anyone with a > proven capacity to buy tickets could jump in as well. > > It seemed like one of the options was to have tickets mailed. If we > sprung for the extra expense of that, you d get around all the box office > ID restrictions. I was surprised to see that was an option, as it seems > like they are working hard to fight scalping and mailing tickets would undo > a lot of that work. > > Of course, there is some bother offering to buy tickets for people, as > well as some potential financial burden. I d certainly understand if > people didn t want to take that on. > > neal ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:58:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: okay, fellow foreigners Verified by Visa is fairly standard for British websites. I'd forgotten that Americans don't have it, just like they don't have chip and pin credit/debit cards. :( Ellen "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." - -- JRR Tolkien >________________________________ > From: Karen Hester >To: Ecto >Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:06 PM >Subject: okay, fellow foreigners > > >you have to sign up to 'verify for visa' to buy Kate tickets. I got front >section ones and then my card was denied. >grrrrrrrrjkdsfjkfdlkdasjjdkasfjkgrrrrrr >The pre-sale seemed to have lots of seats, I didn't see anyone who was >refreshing on the dot fail to find seats. > >I've never had verification problems before - you know how it hangs there, >saying 'verifying' and then gloriously says 'yes' after a few seconds - but >this is an additional level involving an extra password. > >K (sleepy, disappointed K) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:42:03 -0700 From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: okay, fellow foreigners I haven't tried to buy Kate tix, but I have a Capital One card and they are overly cautious, in my opinion. They used to reject every purchase I ever made in an Apple store until they could reach me by phone to confirm that it was really me. I finally told them that I use Apple products in my work and to please quit flagging those purchases. The chip & pin system NEEDS to come to the U.S., because it's made it extremely inconvenient for American travelers to Europe. You can't use your magnetic strip credit card in many places, including any vending machine that sells train or bus tickets. - --Sue On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:32 AM, F.J.Fornorn wrote: > Those fraud calls/rejections are getting pretty common for CC orders > placed (a) far from your home and (b) for a lot of money. > > On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:50 PM, neal copperman wrote: > > > So what kinds of cards and pre-purchase setups did people use that > worked? > > > > I was using a Master Card, not a Visa. So it s not Verify for Visa, but > obviously something similar. > > > > The CC fraud people called and woke me up 3 hours after I couldn t by my > tickets, so I m going to talk to them now. > > > > But it d be great to be sure everything is in order before trying again. > > > > neal > > > > > > On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Karen Hester > wrote: > > > >> you have to sign up to 'verify for visa' to buy Kate tickets. I got > front > >> section ones and then my card was denied. > >> grrrrrrrrjkdsfjkfdlkdasjjdkasfjkgrrrrrr > >> The pre-sale seemed to have lots of seats, I didn't see anyone who was > >> refreshing on the dot fail to find seats. > >> > >> I've never had verification problems before - you know how it hangs > there, > >> saying 'verifying' and then gloriously says 'yes' after a few seconds - > but > >> this is an additional level involving an extra password. > >> > >> K (sleepy, disappointed K) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 08:13:08 -0400 From: "A.W. Fields" Subject: Re: So Kate Bush preorder codes are transferable Anyone still got one too? I asked on the original email but crickets. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Valerie Nozick wrote: A reminder for folks buying tickets from the US -- the UK has not yet switched their clocks, so the time difference between the US and UK is one hour less than usual. So 9:30am is 2:30am west cost US time, rather than the usual 8 hour time difference. On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 2:28 PM, Paul Blair wrote: Or on me? I would have sworn I'd signed up for katebush.com. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 25, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Valerie Nozick wrote: > > Thanks for tracking this down, Karen! Are there any ectophiles who don't plan > to use their presale code who would be willing to take pity on me? > > ==> > Valerie > > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 11:39 AM, Karen Hester > wrote: > > ""The code you have been assigned is not > directly connected to the details > you have on KateBush.com. If you received > the code directly from > KateBush.com in the email titled "Before the Dawn - Pre > Sale" and you have > not shared your code with anyone else up until now, then it > should be valid > and fine to use with another email address. > > Kindest regards, The Fish People"" > > Just not transferable after purchase. Which makes sense, > since we don't all > sign up to mailing lists using realname, but still. > > K ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:51:08 -0400 From: Karen Hester Subject: foreign credit/debit cards My bank says they can do everything on their end to make my card work over the internet, but if Visa is suspicious of a foreign ticketing site, it's possible nothing will work. My card isn't eligible for 'verified by visa.' So. Trying ticketmaster on Friday, I guess. K ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 15:52:00 -0400 From: "F.J.Fornorn" Subject: Re: okay, fellow foreigners Yes, the kind of thing that can be done quite gracefully in European politics, but causes years of pointless debate and nasty political attack ads here in the US. On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:42 PM, Tim Jones-Yelvington wrote: > Sounds like a regulation/policy intervention might be in order. > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Michael Matthews wrote: > >> It's not really weird, it's a cold business decision. Back when Target >> and, what was it, Neimann-Marcus got hit really bad with the data breach, >> there was a news story that said it would cost upwards of $14 billion to >> retrofit everything to use the more secure chip&pin technology, and it only >> costs them something like $10 billion in fraud, so they'd rather just pay >> the fraud stuff and let the rest of us suffer with the inconvenience. I've >> had three cards get fraudulently used, one of which strongly suggests ATM >> machines were hacked. >> >> "Hopefully," the ease at which people seem to be hacking into these >> systems and creating massive fraud headaches will tip that equation a bit. >> This is rather ridiculous.... >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 14:20, neal copperman wrote: >>> >>> It is weird that given all the concerns about fraud, they don t adopt >> the more secure systems that are widespread around the world. And instead >> are introducing handy but very insecure RFID options. >>> >>> neal >>> >>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Sue Trowbridge >> wrote: >>>> >>>> I haven't tried to buy Kate tix, but I have a Capital One card and they >> are >>>> overly cautious, in my opinion. They used to reject every purchase I >> ever >>>> made in an Apple store until they could reach me by phone to confirm >> that >>>> it was really me. I finally told them that I use Apple products in my >> work >>>> and to please quit flagging those purchases. The chip & pin system >> NEEDS to >>>> come to the U.S., because it's made it extremely inconvenient for >> American >>>> travelers to Europe. You can't use your magnetic strip credit card in >> many >>>> places, including any vending machine that sells train or bus tickets. >>>> >>>> --Sue >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:32 AM, F.J.Fornorn >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Those fraud calls/rejections are getting pretty common for CC orders >>>>> placed (a) far from your home and (b) for a lot of money. >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:50 PM, neal copperman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So what kinds of cards and pre-purchase setups did people use that >>>>> worked? >>>>>> >>>>>> I was using a Master Card, not a Visa. So it s not Verify for Visa, >> but >>>>> obviously something similar. >>>>>> >>>>>> The CC fraud people called and woke me up 3 hours after I couldn t by >> my >>>>> tickets, so I m going to talk to them now. >>>>>> >>>>>> But it d be great to be sure everything is in order before trying >> again. >>>>>> >>>>>> neal >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Karen Hester >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> you have to sign up to 'verify for visa' to buy Kate tickets. I got >>>>> front >>>>>>> section ones and then my card was denied. >>>>>>> grrrrrrrrjkdsfjkfdlkdasjjdkasfjkgrrrrrr >>>>>>> The pre-sale seemed to have lots of seats, I didn't see anyone who >> was >>>>>>> refreshing on the dot fail to find seats. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've never had verification problems before - you know how it hangs >>>>> there, >>>>>>> saying 'verifying' and then gloriously says 'yes' after a few >> seconds - >>>>> but >>>>>>> this is an additional level involving an extra password. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> K (sleepy, disappointed K) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 10:14:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: okay, fellow foreigners It's MasterCard Secure Code in the UK. Verified by Visa, indeed, is for Visa, whether it's a Visa credit or debit card. It may have been your American credit/debit card thought it was someone trying to use your card, which is why the fraud people contacted you. They're not used to you using British websites to buy a couple of hundred pounds worth of concert tickets. :( Ellen "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." - -- JRR Tolkien >________________________________ > From: neal copperman >To: Karen Hester >Cc: neal copperman ; ecto >Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:50 PM >Subject: Re: okay, fellow foreigners > > >So what kinds of cards and pre-purchase setups did people use that worked? > >I was using a Master Card, not a Visa. So its not Verify for Visa, but obviously something similar. > >The CC fraud people called and woke me up 3 hours after I couldnt by my tickets, so Im going to talk to them now. > >But itd be great to be sure everything is in order before trying again. > >neal > > >On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Karen Hester wrote: > >> you have to sign up to 'verify for visa' to buy Kate tickets. I got front >> section ones and then my card was denied. >> grrrrrrrrjkdsfjkfdlkdasjjdkasfjkgrrrrrr >> The pre-sale seemed to have lots of seats, I didn't see anyone who was >> refreshing on the dot fail to find seats. >> >> I've never had verification problems before - you know how it hangs there, >> saying 'verifying' and then gloriously says 'yes' after a few seconds - but >> this is an additional level involving an extra password. >> >> K (sleepy, disappointed K) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 03:00:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************** Bob Brown (no Email address) *********************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham Valerie Nozick Thu March 25 1971 Aries Tom Proven Sat March 27 1971 Eat at Joe's Jennifer Albert Wed March 30 1966 Aries (w/Cancer rising!:) Warpaint Mon April 01 1991 Brilliant! 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Back when Target and, what was it, Neimann-Marcus got hit really bad with the data breach, there was a news story that said it would cost upwards of $14 billion to retrofit everything to use the more secure chip&pin technology, and it only costs them something like $10 billion in fraud, so they'd rather just pay the fraud stuff and let the rest of us suffer with the inconvenience. I've had three cards get fraudulently used, one of which strongly suggests ATM machines were hacked. "Hopefully," the ease at which people seem to be hacking into these systems and creating massive fraud headaches will tip that equation a bit. This is rather ridiculous.... Sent from my iPad > On Mar 26, 2014, at 14:20, neal copperman wrote: > > It is weird that given all the concerns about fraud, they dont adopt the more secure systems that are widespread around the world. And instead are introducing handy but very insecure RFID options. > > neal > >> On Mar 26, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Sue Trowbridge wrote: >> >> I haven't tried to buy Kate tix, but I have a Capital One card and they are >> overly cautious, in my opinion. They used to reject every purchase I ever >> made in an Apple store until they could reach me by phone to confirm that >> it was really me. I finally told them that I use Apple products in my work >> and to please quit flagging those purchases. The chip & pin system NEEDS to >> come to the U.S., because it's made it extremely inconvenient for American >> travelers to Europe. You can't use your magnetic strip credit card in many >> places, including any vending machine that sells train or bus tickets. >> >> --Sue >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:32 AM, F.J.Fornorn wrote: >> >>> Those fraud calls/rejections are getting pretty common for CC orders >>> placed (a) far from your home and (b) for a lot of money. >>> >>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:50 PM, neal copperman wrote: >>>> >>>> So what kinds of cards and pre-purchase setups did people use that >>> worked? >>>> >>>> I was using a Master Card, not a Visa. So it s not Verify for Visa, but >>> obviously something similar. >>>> >>>> The CC fraud people called and woke me up 3 hours after I couldn t by my >>> tickets, so I m going to talk to them now. >>>> >>>> But it d be great to be sure everything is in order before trying again. >>>> >>>> neal >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Karen Hester >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> you have to sign up to 'verify for visa' to buy Kate tickets. I got >>> front >>>>> section ones and then my card was denied. >>>>> grrrrrrrrjkdsfjkfdlkdasjjdkasfjkgrrrrrr >>>>> The pre-sale seemed to have lots of seats, I didn't see anyone who was >>>>> refreshing on the dot fail to find seats. >>>>> >>>>> I've never had verification problems before - you know how it hangs >>> there, >>>>> saying 'verifying' and then gloriously says 'yes' after a few seconds - >>> but >>>>> this is an additional level involving an extra password. >>>>> >>>>> K (sleepy, disappointed K) ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V16 #1055 ****************************