From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V16 #96 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, May 8 2011 Volume 16 : Number 096 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: Bands you broke up with [Peter Clark ] Re: Bands you broke up with [Valerie Nozick ] Re: Call for ecto-defining albums [meredith ] attention European ectophiles... [meredith ] Re: first listens: Emmylou Harris, Brandi Carlile, and Thea Gilmore [mere] Bands you broke up with/Ecto-defining albums addendums [Adam Kimmel ] Re: Call for ecto-defining albums [Dan Riley ] Re: Call for ecto-defining albums [Ellen Rawson ] Re: Call for ecto-defining albums [Paul Blair ] Re: Bands you broke up with/Ecto-defining albums addendums [Michele Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ************* Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@ccrma.Stanford.EDU) ************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard A. Holmes May 07 Taurus Steve Ito Fri May 08 1970 DA Bull... Brian Gregory Thu May 09 1963 Eclectic Catherine Sundnes Sat May 09 1970 Very Catzy Heidi Maier Wed May 10 1978 Taurus Patrick Varker Wed May 12 1954 Torius Philip David Morgan Sat May 12 1962 Chinese Tiger in Bull Clothing Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Julia Macklin Mon May 20 1968 ethereus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem Chandra Sriram Thu May 27 1971 Gemini Taina Sahlander Mon May 28 1973 Gemini Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way Onna Addis June 01 Gemini Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 02 1966 Kaksoset Alexander Johannesen June 03 Gemini - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 23:50:49 -0700 From: Peter Clark Subject: Re: Bands you broke up with I got in the habit at audio show several years ago to be chary playing music I like too much. A four day audio show can ruin the best music you own in the twinkling of an eye. I've preserved Sarah from these depradations and and am struggling mightily trying to shield a resurging Rickie Lee Jones from a similar fate.. Now and again Norah Jones just gets sacrificed to the lumpenproletariat. Peter Clark - -=High Performance Analogue=- redpoint-audio-design.com On May 6, 2011, at 7:51 PM, Birdie wrote: > Careful you guys, there's a few insecure control freak manager types around that will go after you for all this....you'll be called vindictive, it will be blamed on something personal, and you'll be expected to shut up about it - even if listening to the "newer" musicality of said "artists" makes you want to crawl out of your skin. > > :-) > > That said, have you guys heard The Joy Formidable???? Check the video for The Whirring... > > AMAZING !! > > http://youtu.be/a2BUEzdjfpY?hd=1 > > > On 5/6/11 7:29 PM, Paul Blair wrote: >> I'm the same. For me she's in the "no longer follow, but still remember the >> good times" category. >> >> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Tim Jones-Yelvingtonwrote: >> >>> Her most recent is wretched wretched wretched, but I'll still listen to >>> Fumbling, Solace and Touch a few times a year, and Surfacing >>> sooooooooometimes, but only if I really want to play the high school >>> nostalgia game, I don't think it's a great album. >>> >>> ~Tim >>> >>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Jason Gordon >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've broken up hardest with Sarah McLachlan...dont even want to hear >>>> anything new by her now...and dont get me started on those damn animal >>> abuse >>>> commercials... >>>> >>>> Also on the list Dar Williams and Ani Difranco... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 00:33:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Valerie Nozick Subject: Re: Bands you broke up with Sarah and I broke up awhile ago too. I got tired of hearing a CD and thinking that every song sounds the same (and all of them like some Diane Warren song). I have also been on the outs with Tori Amos - I just haven't gotten into her latest albums. ________________________________ From: Jason Gordon To: trow@interbridge.com Cc: ecto@smoe.org Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2011 2:30 AM Subject: Re: Bands you broke up with I've broken up hardest with Sarah McLachlan...dont even want to hear anything new by her now...and dont get me started on those damn animal abuse commercials... Also on the list Dar Williams and Ani Difranco... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 05:53:40 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Call for ecto-defining albums Wow, it's been a while since there's been a lot of ecto to catch up on. :) This is a great idea, and I would endorse Damon's taking the time to put an online voting system together, or else this is all just an impossible jumble. I already would second about 75% of what has been posted here ... my personal list of "ecto-defining albums" is way too long to post in the limited time I have. But I can click boxes next to album titles in only a couple seconds. :) I'm surprised I haven't seen Ani diFranco mentioned more in people's lists ... I would definitely nominate "Dilate" and "Not A Pretty Girl". (And no, Ellen, I haven't seen anyone else mention Rachael Sage -- of course I'm biased and probably not qualified to make a nomination, but I would add "Smashing The Serene" to the list because of the moment in time it contributed to, its influences, how and why it was made, and "Sistersong" could be its own ecto manifesto, really. :) Meredith :) p.s. Are we all aware that in just about a month, this mailing list will be old enough to drink in the U.S.? We're getting old, people!! :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 06:03:04 -0400 From: meredith Subject: attention European ectophiles... Hi, Calling all European ectophiles ... specifically those in France, the Netherlands and Germany, but road-trips are encouraged. :) Rachael Sage is coming to your continent and we would love to see you!! RACHAEL SAGE "DELANCEY STREET" EUROPEAN TOUR (full details at http://www.rachaelsage.com/shows) Wed. 11 May Paris, France Swan Bar Thu. 12 May Hamburg, DE Astra-Stube (opening for Amber Rubarth) Fri. 13 May Amsterdam, NL Amsterdam Bright City Cafe (live radio performance open to the public) Fri. 13 May Den Haag, NL Cafe Quirky Sat. 14 May Utrecht, NL "Live In Your Living Room" Public House Concert Sun. 15 May Amsterdam, NL Canvas op de 7e Tue. 17 May Berlin, DE NBI/Kulturbrauerei (opening for Amber Rubarth) Wed. 18 May Koeln, DE Club Barinton (opening for Amber Rubarth) Thu. 19 May Duisburg, DE Steinbruch (opening for Amber Rubarth) Fri. 20 May Utrecht, NL "Live In Your Living Room" Public House Concert Sat. 21 May Dronten, NL XL Kunstmanifestatie Sun. 22 May Amsterdam, NL Andenken Gallery ... then we go back to the UK for a week, more on that later. Big thanks to "Live In Your Living Room NYC/Netherlands Connection" for putting together the entire Netherlands tour, and to Amber Rubarth (of The Paper Raincoat) for having Rachael on a few of her Germany gigs. Can't wait to get back there, it's been 20 years for me! Meredith :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 06:07:12 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: first listens: Emmylou Harris, Brandi Carlile, and Thea Gilmore Hi, On 4/27/11 6:33 PM, JoAnn Whetsell wrote: > The April 24 entry at Cover Lay Down focuses on THEA GILMORE and her upcoming > Dylan tribute album. You can't listen to the whole album there, but there are > some MP3s posted (from the new album and other covers). You can preview the > new album on iTunes. I got a chance to listen to this at a friend's house in London last weekend -- it's really, really, really good. I'm definitely going to pick up a copy when I'm back home. Also, while in London I picked up the current issue of MOJO, with KaTe Bush on the cover. (Just doing that brought a wave of nostalgia. :) It's an excellent interview, with a thoughtful review of the new project (which for the record I'm terrified by, but we'll see). The rest of the magazine is also worth the money; among other things there is a great interview with Emmylou Harris. Meredith :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 04:39:13 -0800 From: Adam Kimmel Subject: Bands you broke up with/Ecto-defining albums addendums Sarah McLachlan's an interesting example.(and really liked) her early albums I wouldn't have called myself a fan. Having not so much "broken up" as slowly lost interest ("Mirrorball", which I found dull, didn't help) I later picked up "Afterglow" as an afterthought and surprised myself by liking bits of it. Like I said, sometimes the old magic gets pulled out of the hat. And what's this about her doing ads for animal cruelty? I think I'd pay to see that. A couple of late ecto-defining nominations: Brian Eno - Another Green World. His first four solo albums should really be owned by absolutely everybody, running the gamut from skewed, surreal pop to breathtakingly beautiful landscapes, and this catches him just between the two, with a jazzy lilt to his deadpan voice and other-worldly lyrics and just a hint of ambient stylings. Jo Hamilton - Gown. I know, I know, I keep pushing this one, but it really is a keeper and should be an ecto-standard. Cat Stevens - Tea for the Tillerman. ur-Ecto, one of those artists who still gets overlooked. Meredith Meyer - Items You Won't Find Elsewhere Lida Husik - Green Blue Fire. here's one I lost track of and don't listen to much any more, but I remember this was one of the artists I found via Ecto. Amy Rigby - Little Fugitive. Sharp, funny stuff. Jenny Lewis and the Watson twins -- Rabbit Fur coat. I could never stand it, but I don't remember seeing it mentioned so far. Has it? Gemma Hayes - Night on My Side. Again, not my cup of tea, but I remember this made a splash on its release. Shelby Starner - From in the Shadows. Not one I listen to much these days, but I still think the song "Dreams You Had", which is on a car mix I've made is a classic. Also, someone should speak up for Janis Ian, Kirsty MacColl, Regina Spektor, Kathryn, Victoria and Lucinda Williams andLauren Hoffman. It won't necessarily be me, but I just thought I'd mention them. I'll shut up for a bit, now, I promise. Adam K. should now be playing: Thea Gilmore's John Wesley Harding, which just arrived today. Is really playing: Original Broadway Cast of "Follies". God, I still love this after all these years. ____________________________________________________________ Publish your photos in seconds for FREE TRY IM TOOLPACK at http://www.imtoolpack.com/default.aspx?rc=if4 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 13:50:23 -0400 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Call for ecto-defining albums > p.s. Are we all aware that in just about a month, this mailing list will be old enough to drink in the U.S.? We're getting old, people!! :) Having recently wandered back to Ecto, I've been struck by the relatively long-ago birthdates of the people in the birthday emails, as well as the number of them that come up with "No email address." BTW, I've been wondering for decades: does the phrase "Today's your birthday, friend" come from a song lyric? On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:53 AM, meredith wrote: > Wow, it's been a while since there's been a lot of ecto to catch up on. :) > > This is a great idea, and I would endorse Damon's taking the time to put an > online voting system together, or else this is all just an impossible > jumble. I already would second about 75% of what has been posted here ... > my personal list of "ecto-defining albums" is way too long to post in the > limited time I have. But I can click boxes next to album titles in only a > couple seconds. :) > > I'm surprised I haven't seen Ani diFranco mentioned more in people's lists > ... I would definitely nominate "Dilate" and "Not A Pretty Girl". > > (And no, Ellen, I haven't seen anyone else mention Rachael Sage -- of course > I'm biased and probably not qualified to make a nomination, but I would add > "Smashing The Serene" to the list because of the moment in time it > contributed to, its influences, how and why it was made, and "Sistersong" > could be its own ecto manifesto, really. :) > > Meredith :) > > p.s. Are we all aware that in just about a month, this mailing list will be > old enough to drink in the U.S.? We're getting old, people!! :) > - -- Joseph Zitt ::http://www.josephzitt.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 14:36:52 -0400 From: Dan Riley Subject: Re: Call for ecto-defining albums On May 7, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Joseph Zitt wrote: > BTW, I've been wondering for decades: does the phrase "Today's your > birthday, friend" come from a song lyric? Answered decades ago ;-) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 91 19:05:49 -0400 From: dsr@lns598.TN.CORNELL.EDU Message-Id: <9110152305.AA01642@lns276.TN.CORNELL.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Birthday lyrics Status: RO Vickie writes: >Today's your birthday friend >Everything all right >Let us our greeting to you send >Happy friend >We hope your life will never end > >Genuine Vickie Obsurity Prize goes to the first person who identifies it :-) >hint..it's not a Happy song, for those who don't yet have everything Got it. Took awhile. It's from the song "Am I Very Wrong" from the first Genesis album. No, not _Trespass_, the album before that. It was called _From Genesis to Revelation_ in the UK, and didn't appear in the US until '74, some 5 years after its UK release. Funny album--fairly pop, Moody Bluesish sort of music, with not nearly the anger of _Trespass_ nor the sophistication of the later albums. Pretty obscure, Vickie. - -dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 11:56:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: Call for ecto-defining albums I'll take Adam's challenge regarding Janis Ian. Between the Lines and Breaking Silence. Ellen, who notes that the Guardian gave the new Eliza Carthy album, Neptune, four stars. It's reviewed in the folk column, but the reviewer states that there's "just the occasional folk reference". http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/may/05/eliza-carthy-neptune-review?INTCMP=SRCH "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." - -- JRR Tolkien ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 15:05:21 -0400 From: Paul Blair Subject: Re: Call for ecto-defining albums Welcome back, Joe! On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Joseph Zitt wrote: > > p.s. Are we all aware that in just about a month, this mailing list will > be old enough to drink in the U.S.? We're getting old, people!! :) > > Having recently wandered back to Ecto, I've been struck by the > relatively long-ago birthdates of the people in the birthday emails, > as well as the number of them that come up with "No email address." > > BTW, I've been wondering for decades: does the phrase "Today's your > birthday, friend" come from a song lyric? > > On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:53 AM, meredith wrote: > > Wow, it's been a while since there's been a lot of ecto to catch up on. > :) > > > > This is a great idea, and I would endorse Damon's taking the time to put > an > > online voting system together, or else this is all just an impossible > > jumble. I already would second about 75% of what has been posted here > ... > > my personal list of "ecto-defining albums" is way too long to post in the > > limited time I have. But I can click boxes next to album titles in only > a > > couple seconds. :) > > > > I'm surprised I haven't seen Ani diFranco mentioned more in people's > lists > > ... I would definitely nominate "Dilate" and "Not A Pretty Girl". > > > > (And no, Ellen, I haven't seen anyone else mention Rachael Sage -- of > course > > I'm biased and probably not qualified to make a nomination, but I would > add > > "Smashing The Serene" to the list because of the moment in time it > > contributed to, its influences, how and why it was made, and "Sistersong" > > could be its own ecto manifesto, really. :) > > > > Meredith :) > > > > p.s. Are we all aware that in just about a month, this mailing list will > be > > old enough to drink in the U.S.? We're getting old, people!! :) > > > > > > -- > Joseph Zitt ::http://www.josephzitt.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 15:22:59 -0700 From: Michele Subject: Re: Bands you broke up with/Ecto-defining albums addendums On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:39 AM, Adam Kimmel wrote: > > Amy Rigby - Little Fugitive. Sharp, funny stuff. > > Ooooh. I haven't got this one yet, but I adore her earlier work, Diary of a Mod Housewife (her first, I think), Middlescence, and The Sugar Tree. I got to see her in concert one time over at the Freight & Salvage and that was a lot of fun, too. Glad to see she's got other ecto admirers. Michele in Silicon Valley ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V16 #96 **************************