From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V15 #51 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, March 1 2010 Volume 15 : Number 051 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- you guys really should check out Odessa Chen [robert bristow-johnson ] [Fwd: Odessa Chen : 22 days left to Pledge towards her new CD] [leon ] New Chloe March Ep [Craig Gidney ] Re: To Be Black and Ecto... [Paul Blair ] Re: you guys really should check out Odessa Chen [Paul Blair ] The Union of Soil and Sky [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] Re: To Be Black and Ecto... [Neile Graham ] Re: To Be Black and Ecto... [Neile Graham ] RE: What would you choose for the top five "classic" Ecto albums [JoAnn ] Re: To Be Black and Ecto... [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] Re: To Be Black and Ecto... ["Yngve Hauge" ] Re: The Union of Soil and Sky [Gregory Bossert ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:34:45 -0500 From: robert bristow-johnson Subject: you guys really should check out Odessa Chen Noe turned me on to Odessa's music and i'm really glad for that. she has two CDs that you can buy from her site, i think. you can hear a goodly chunk of music from each song at her site. and there's a song, Pearl, from her previous band that i think is complete on her site. her music is stunningly and somewhat hauntingly beautiful. there's depth, intimacy, *and* a sorta indie, i-dont-have-infinite-money-for- production-costs kinda sound. (but she didn't skimp in composition or mix, it's very well produced.) Paul, Woj, Meth, Karen? did you get her CDs? i'm just amazed by her music. - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 23:39:55 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: What would you choose for the top five "classic" Ecto albums "Strange Angels" is my Laurie Anderson album. "The Walking," yes, hands down. I think it's most distinctive and unmistakably Jane. But I tend to come at this from the "great female eccentric" focus & tend to gravitate to the artier or... or, ya know, stuff with more irregular tempos, elliptical melodies, etc. Maybe not core ecto, but New York Tendaberry by Laura Nyro and Pirates by Rickie Lee Jones always always on my core list. - ----- Original Message ---- From: Aly Fields To: Gregory Bossert Cc: Ecto Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 11:13:55 PM Subject: Re: What would you choose for the top five "classic" Ecto albums Greg, your essential four are absolutely critical and were the four that I went to first, in addition to *The Walking* (not like it's an essential album for me or anything). For a personal twist I might take out Sarah (I know she's beloved but not my cuppa) and Tori (I LOVE this album but a) I prefer *Boys for Pele* and b) she might be a little redundant given Kate's presence) and put in Mary Margaret O'Hara's *Miss America* (obscure but sooo relevant) and Laurie Anderson's *Big Science *(I like *United States Live* personally but it may be a bit much). Five is sooo limiting. Others I could think of as good primers: *The Innocence Mission / Umbrella* - The Innocence Mission *Boys for Pele* / *Under the Pink* - Tori Amos *In My Tribe* - 10,000 Maniacs (more of the college rock circuit end of the spectrum) *Throwing Muses* (1986) *-* Throwing Muses (and, in the same vein, *Hips and Makers* - Kristin Hersh) *Everything's Different Now - '*'Til Tuesday (more jangly but Aimee is a staple in my collection) *Treasure / The Pink Opaque - Cocteau Twins* *Rid of Me / Dry / Stories... - PJ Harvey* *The Dreaming *et al. - Kate Bush *When I Was a Boy* / *The Speckless Sky* / *No Borders Here* - Jane Siberry (the latter two are a bit more new wave, I personally think that *The Walking* embodies ecto, even more than Happy Rhodes does!) *Spine* - Veda Hille ... on and on... * * *Also... she's proto-ecto, but seriously, so few of our classic ecto artists would exist without her... my favorite album ever... New York Tendaberry by Laura Nyro. Astounding if y'all haven't heard it.* * * *This is gonna be a great thread!!!* * * On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Gregory Bossert wrote: > > If you had to choose the top five classic Ecto albums, which would you > > include? > > > oof, five is never enough. but i'd say these are my essential four: > > * "Warpaint", Happy Rhodes > * "Hounds of Love", Kate Bush > * "Fumbling Towards Ecstasy", Sarah McLachlan > * "LIttle Earthquakes", Tori Amos > > and then pull out Meredith's darts, and add a few to her possible targets: > > dreamy: > * "Happiness (4AD version)", Lisa Germano > * "The Innocence Mission", the innocence mission > * Bill already mentioned Loreena McKennitt... > > songwriters: > * "Tigerlily", Natalie Merchant > * "Oyster", Heather Nova > * "Bachelor No. 2", Aimee Mann > * "The Walking", Jane Siberry (cuz Meredith already mentioned "When I was > a Boy") > > edgy: > * untitled, Throwing Muses > * "Star", Belly > * "To Bring You My Love", PJ Harvey > > and: > * all the other Happy albums > * all the other KaTe albums > > this is a sort of old-school-ecto list, i guess. I adore both Laurie > Anderson and Bjork, geniuses, but maybe less "classic ecto"? who knows. > and then Emmylou Harris and Cowboy Junkies and Heidi Berry and Robin > Holcomb and October Project and and and > > -g > -- www.gregorynormanbossert.com -- > -- www.suddensound.com -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:00:04 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Pamela Pociluk (no Email address) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Pamela Pociluk Fri February 28 1964 Pisces Marius Voina Mon March 03 1980 Pisces Peter Clark Thu March 04 1948 Pedestrian Tim Steele Fri March 08 1963 Pisces Matt Bittner Thu March 12 1964 Pisces kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Bob Dreano Thu March 13 1958 Pisces Randall K. 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Kingsley Sat March 17 1962 Yin/Yang Alan Sodoma Thu March 18 1965 LuckyLurker Richard Konrad Sat March 18 1944 Pisces Daniel Wed March 18 1959 Wednesday's Child Kim Justice March 18 Pisces Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Graham Dombkins Fri March 19 1965 Pisces Ian Young Wed March 19 1969 Squiggol Jeff Wasilko Wed March 19 1969 Pisces Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces John Stewart Sat March 21 1970 Aries Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham Valerie Nozick Thu March 25 1971 Aries Tom Proven Sat March 27 1971 Eat at Joe's - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:10:56 +0100 From: leon Subject: [Fwd: Odessa Chen : 22 days left to Pledge towards her new CD] Return-Path: X-Original-To: leon@fluffy Delivered-To: leon@fluffy.noomore.org Received: from localhost (fluffy.noomore.org [192.168.55.1]) by fluffy.noomore.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2C73B1C for ; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:55:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.upcmail.nl [213.46.255.2] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-6.2.5) for leon@fluffy (single-drop); Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:55:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from edge01.upcmail.net ([192.168.13.236]) by viefep13-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.8.01.02.00 201-2260-120-20100118) with ESMTP id <20100226162255.VOQF8754.viefep13-int.chello.at@edge01.upcmail.net> for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:22:55 +0100 Received: from mail-vw0-f45.google.com ([209.85.212.45]) by edge01.upcmail.net with edge id mgNt1d08c0zKgeh01gNuqW; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:22:55 +0100 X-SourceIP: 209.85.212.45 Received: by vws11 with SMTP id 11so87946vws.4 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:22:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.107.72 with SMTP id a8mr421481vcp.92.1267201372906; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:22:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:22:52 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Odessa Chen : 22 days left to Pledge towards her new CD From: odessa chen To: cc odessa chen Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c-p1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Dear friends, ~ My choice to pursue music has led me to some of the most incredible experiences of my life, introduced me to my husband, and brought meaning to my life. But it's challenging to move forward without the support of a record label or financial help. ~ Though it's hard to make room for donations in this economy, I still feel music and art are important expressions of our collective soul, bringing comfort in hard times. ~ Response to my last CD the Ballad of Paper Ships has been incredible, but the simple fact is that a lot of the people that have heard it didn't buy the CD and sales have not been high enough to even remotely cover the cost of making it. ~ I need your help to reach our goal of raising enough money to complete the new CD The Archives, and start another record Giving up the Ghosts. ~ We have just 22 days. Even a very small donation helps, but if you yourself can't donate, maybe you can forward this to someone who can, or link to it on Facebook? ~ Please take a look at the video for this project and see if it's something you might want to support. You can see the funny video about this project above and make pledges here: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/odessa/the-archives Thank you to award winning film makers Alona Davis and Dave Pursell for donating this video. With much love and hope, but NO PRESSURE! ~ odessa, devin, rich and roger Sorry if you've gotten this message already!
- -- odessa Help produce odessa's new CD the Archives http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/odessa/the-archives + music and videos at + http://www.odessachen.com Follow Odessa on Twitter and Facebook - -- odessa Help produce odessa's new CD the Archives http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/odessa/the-archives + music and videos at + http://www.odessachen.com Follow Odessa on Twitter and Facebook ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 01:19:15 -0800 From: Gregory Bossert Subject: Re: What would you choose for the top five "classic" Ecto albums On Feb 27, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Aly Fields wrote: > *Also... she's proto-ecto, but seriously, so few of our classic ecto artists > would exist without her... my favorite album ever... New York Tendaberry by > Laura Nyro. Astounding if y'all haven't heard it.* yup. and speaking of proto-ecto, there's Joni Mitchell... if you rough the idea of ecto in as: independent, idiosyncratic, multi-instrumentalist female singer-songwriter, then she's one that lead the way. or going towards the fey, haunting and haunted side of ecto, there's Sandy Denny. on Tori: looking back now, Little Earthquakes is not my favorite Tori album; i'd put UtP, BfP, tVaB, and SW (it's late, and my fingers hurt) all above it. but it was historically more "ecto" in that Tori was relatively unknown. with the obvious exception of KaTe, who doesn't count (or rather, always counts) there's something itchily non-ecto about being to famous (alas, alack!) (and of course KaTe has settled comfortably into obscurity...) on Sarah: in light of the previous, I ought to pick "Solace" and "Touch" over FTE, and those albums and her associated touring were certainly part of the (forgive me) zeitgeist of ecto's early years. but the music and production and overall effect of "Fumbling" seem quintessentially ecto to me. Ms. McLachlan has rather worn out her welcome since, though, or is that just me...? i commented that my list was old-school-ecto, and honestly, Tori and Sarah have long since grown too well known, and perhaps too set in their ways, to serve as an introduction to ecto for a new generation. there have been plenty of names--and a fair number of the artists themselves--buzzing about on this list more recently who are more apropos incarnations of that old fuzzy blue spirit... 'tah! - -g - -- www.gregorynormanbossert.com -- - -- www.suddensound.com -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 06:29:41 -0800 (PST) From: Craig Gidney Subject: To Be Black and Ecto... Some Ecto folks might be interested in the blog post I did yesterday about off the beaten path about Black/ African-descended in pop, rock and indie: http://ethereal-lad.livejournal.com/566164.html Best, Craig http://craiglaurancegidney.wordpress.com Author, SEA, SWALLOW ME & OTHER STORIES ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 07:08:20 -0800 (PST) From: Craig Gidney Subject: New Chloe March Ep From her website: The new EP ("Garden on the Boulevard") is a collection of six songs that includes tracks inspired by boulevard cafis and old cameras, lost love and seductive glamour, the dawn chorus, mythical bees, ghosts in the garden and frozen lakes. Chlok March brings her trademark sound-palette of piano, synths, field-recordings and vocal layering to these new songs, offering immersive soundscapes and beat-driven filmic journeys. http://chloemarch.bandcamp.com/ It's quite gorgeous.... Best, Craig http://craiglaurancegidney.wordpress.com Author, SEA, SWALLOW ME & OTHER STORIES ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:05:29 -0500 From: Paul Blair Subject: Re: To Be Black and Ecto... I notice all but one of the artists you mention are male; it's too bad there seem to be so few black artists in the ecto space. One such band I like a lot is Brazz Tree: http://www.myspace.com/brazztree On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Craig Gidney wrote: > Some Ecto folks might be interested in the blog post I did yesterday about > off the beaten path about Black/ African-descended in pop, rock and indie: > > http://ethereal-lad.livejournal.com/566164.html > > Best, > Craig ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:32:46 -0500 From: Paul Blair Subject: Re: you guys really should check out Odessa Chen I got *The Ballad of Paper Ships* but hadn't had a chance to listen to it until just now. Thanks for the prod! On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 1:34 AM, robert bristow-johnson < rbj@audioimagination.com> wrote: > Noe turned me on to Odessa's music and i'm really glad for that. > > she has two CDs that you can buy from her site, i think. you can hear a > goodly chunk of music from each song at her site. and there's a song, > Pearl, from her previous band that i think is complete on her site. > > her music is stunningly and somewhat hauntingly beautiful. there's depth, > intimacy, *and* a sorta indie, > i-dont-have-infinite-money-for-production-costs kinda sound. (but she > didn't skimp in composition or mix, it's very well produced.) > > Paul, Woj, Meth, Karen? did you get her CDs? i'm just amazed by her > music. > > -- > > r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:54:55 -0600 From: Jon Wesley Huff Subject: Re: To Be Black and Ecto... I'd also recommend Skye. She used to be the lead singer of Morcheeba. She has two beautiful albums out. The last one has a track called "Not Broken" that is truly amazing. On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Paul Blair wrote: > I notice all but one of the artists you mention are male; it's too bad > there > seem to be so few black artists in the ecto space. One such band I like a > lot is Brazz Tree: > > http://www.myspace.com/brazztree > > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Craig Gidney wrote: > > > Some Ecto folks might be interested in the blog post I did yesterday > about > > off the beaten path about Black/ African-descended in pop, rock and > indie: > > > > http://ethereal-lad.livejournal.com/566164.html > > > > Best, > > Craig ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:03:50 -0600 From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: The Union of Soil and Sky Hi, Not only does fellow Ectophile Greg Bossert have his first ever published story in the April/May issue of Asimov's Science Fiction mag, but, the front cover illustration is based on it! This may be the luck of the draw, but, IMHO, it is the best story in the issue. bye, KrW I'm Peter Pan! I'm perpetually young!! OW!! What's wrong with my back? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:32:29 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: To Be Black and Ecto... jr is brilliant, though her most recent album is 2003: http:// www.myspace.com/jrrecording CD Baby has her music, which I think deserves way more recognition, described there as "ethereal, soulful, blues-edged folk" (very apt to my ears) - --Neile On Feb 28, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Paul Blair wrote: > I notice all but one of the artists you mention are male; it's too > bad there > seem to be so few black artists in the ecto space. One such band I > like a > lot is Brazz Tree: > > http://www.myspace.com/brazztree > > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Craig Gidney > wrote: > >> Some Ecto folks might be interested in the blog post I did >> yesterday about >> off the beaten path about Black/ African-descended in pop, rock >> and indie: >> >> http://ethereal-lad.livejournal.com/566164.html >> >> Best, >> Craig ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:14:56 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: To Be Black and Ecto... Ha! I just noticed on the MySpace page that her last name is even Rhodes! I never knew it before. - --Neile On Feb 28, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Neile Graham wrote: > jr is brilliant, though her most recent album is 2003: http:// > www.myspace.com/jrrecording > CD Baby has her music, which I think deserves way more recognition, > described there as "ethereal, soulful, blues-edged folk" (very apt > to my ears) > > --Neile > > On Feb 28, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Paul Blair wrote: > >> I notice all but one of the artists you mention are male; it's too >> bad there >> seem to be so few black artists in the ecto space. One such band I >> like a >> lot is Brazz Tree: >> >> http://www.myspace.com/brazztree >> >> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Craig Gidney >> wrote: >> >>> Some Ecto folks might be interested in the blog post I did >>> yesterday about >>> off the beaten path about Black/ African-descended in pop, rock >>> and indie: >>> >>> http://ethereal-lad.livejournal.com/566164.html >>> >>> Best, >>> Craig ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:20:11 -0500 From: JoAnn Whetsell Subject: RE: What would you choose for the top five "classic" Ecto albums I'm really enjoying this discussion, partly because of the "oh yeah, i haven't listened to that in a long time" thoughts it prompts. Also, I love making lists. Even though I rarely finish them. I started making "50 Best Albums of the Decade" lists for the 90s and 00s, but haven't been able to finish them yet. I think I cut down each list to about 100 contenders each, from 340 possibilities for the 90s and 760 for the 00s. But I digress... The 5 I decided on last night were: Little Earthquakes, Tori Amos (mostly for representing the intimate singer-songwriter, otherwise Scarlet's Walk for being a masterpiece) Path of a Body, Veda Hille Stories From the City, Stories >From the Sea, PJ Harvey When I Was a Boy, Jane Siberry Treasure, Cocteau Twins I was SOO glad to see Laura Nyro mentioned. I totally agree that ecto would be a much different place if it hadn't been for her. Though I must say I have yet to fully appreciate New York Tendaberry and would have mentioned Eli & The Thirteenth Confession. Also glad to see nods to The Innocence Mission, Cowboy Junkies, Loreena McKennitt, and Rickie Lee Jones. I didn't think of Mary Margaret O'Hara's Miss America myself, but since it was mentioned, it seems absolutely essential for a top 5 ecto list, though I don't know what I would bump for it. Same with Loreena's The Mask and the Mirror. Other possibilities not yet mentioned: So Tonight That I Might See, Mazzy Star Illinois, Sufjan Stevens Vent fou, Jorane Innamoramento, Mylene Farmer To the Teeth, Ani DiFranco Gotta Get Over Greta, The Nields (or If You Lived Here You'd Be Home By Now) Up, Peter Gabriel Newer stuff, will have to see how it holds up over time Le fil, Camille Marry Me, St. Vincent Fur & Gold, Bat for Lashes I hate to leave out all people whose primary language is not English, but then it seems equally wrong to pick just one out of so many languages and styles. If forced, I would probably choose something by Capercaillie or Haris Alexiou. Okay, I've said enough. And I have to get ready for more apartment hunting. Yay. JoAnn _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:55:18 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: To Be Black and Ecto... Some other black women I think are ecto-friendly are Imani Uzuri, Eisa Davis & Monica McIntyre. All super awesome. - ----- Original Message ---- From: Neile Graham To: ecto Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 2:14:56 PM Subject: Re: To Be Black and Ecto... Ha! I just noticed on the MySpace page that her last name is even Rhodes! I never knew it before. - --Neile On Feb 28, 2010, at 11:32 AM, Neile Graham wrote: > jr is brilliant, though her most recent album is 2003: http://www.myspace.com/jrrecording > CD Baby has her music, which I think deserves way more recognition, described there as "ethereal, soulful, blues-edged folk" (very apt to my ears) > > --Neile > > On Feb 28, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Paul Blair wrote: > >> I notice all but one of the artists you mention are male; it's too bad there >> seem to be so few black artists in the ecto space. One such band I like a >> lot is Brazz Tree: >> >> http://www.myspace.com/brazztree >> >> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Craig Gidney wrote: >> >>> Some Ecto folks might be interested in the blog post I did yesterday about >>> off the beaten path about Black/ African-descended in pop, rock and indie: >>> >>> http://ethereal-lad.livejournal.com/566164.html >>> >>> Best, >>> Craig ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:13:17 +0100 From: "Yngve Hauge" Subject: Re: To Be Black and Ecto... PC% Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:55:18 +0100, skrev Tim Jones-Yelvington : > Some other black women I think are ecto-friendly are Imani Uzuri, Eisa > Davis & Monica McIntyre. All super awesome. > Pamela Means is an excellent choice and I'll check out those mentioned. Okey, life caught up with me again, but I'm back for a while now hopefully ... - -- Yngve - -- Sendt med Operas revolusjonerende e-postprogram: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:56:23 -0800 From: Gregory Bossert Subject: Re: The Union of Soil and Sky many thanks, Kerry. i am still a bit baffled and bemused at the idea the other people are actually going to read these stories... i greatly enjoyed Steven Popkes story in the same issue: it's hard to beat a adventure with giant lizards and a talking elephant! i don't know the story behind the cover: i wasn't involved at all, and i don't know the artist. Asimov's clearly commissioned it, as it is directly based on my story. needless to say, neither the woman or the fabrilum look anything at all like what i imagined. but that goes with that whole strangeness of other people reading the story... i've sold three stories so far to Asimov's, and all with women as the central characters. the music i listened to while writing became the music to which they would listen, or maybe i have that backwards. Winifred from "Union" would listen to Bjork and Jane Siberry and wonder what they were like as people, and Inanna would listen from across their hut and wonder what all of Earth was like. NaN and A(i)da from Slow Boat (which will probably come out in the August issue) listen to the the cliqhop channel from SomaFM, and a lot of Ella Fitzgerald and Billie Holiday, and sing along, loud and off-key and with made-up lyrics. and the protagonist of "Freia in the Sunlight" doesn't know it, but that was "Hounds of Love" she was receiving that one long day... - -g - -- www.gregorynormanbossert.com -- - -- www.suddensound.com -- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V15 #51 **************************