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Today's Subjects: ----------------- Torchwood [Greg Blair ] Re: Torchwood [Gregory Bossert ] Re: Torchwood [Ellen Rawson ] Re: Torchwood [W1GGY2@aol.com] television [=?iso-8859-1?Q?anna_maria_stj=E4rnell?= ] Re: television [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] Re: television [Ellen Rawson ] Re: Torchwood [Jon Wesley Huff ] Re: television [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] Re: television [Doug ] Music on TV [Ellen Rawson ] torchwood [=?iso-8859-1?Q?anna_maria_stj=E4rnell?= ] Re: Torchwood [=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Elin_Bekkebr=E5ten_Sj=F8lie?= ] Re: Music on TV [Ellen Rawson ] Re: Music on TV ["Richard Messum" ] Hannah Thiem/Copal and Molly Zenobia in NYC/Boston [Paul Blair ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:30:16 +0000 From: Greg Blair Subject: Torchwood Speaking of BritTV fantasy/sci-fi, is Torchwood worth watching? There's a box set I've seen in a local shop and the synopsis and photos on the packaging look interesting. Greg B. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 04:30:35 -0700 From: Gregory Bossert Subject: Re: Torchwood On Mar 9, 2009, at 3:30 AM, Greg Blair wrote: > Speaking of BritTV fantasy/sci-fi, is Torchwood worth watching? > There's a box > set I've seen in a local shop and the synopsis and photos on the > packaging > look interesting. if you've seen the new Doctor Who, and in particular the Captain Jack Harkness episodes, you'll have a pretty good idea of what Torchwood is like. no surprise, as Russell T. Davies is behind both shows, and wrote the bulk of the Harkness episodes -- Captain Jack being the main character in Torchwood. Torchwood never hits the brilliantly haunting peaks that the new Doctor Who has done with Steven Moffat's scripts. on the flip side, you get a heaping serving of camp, a side of naughtiness (the characters intermingle with blithe disregard of sex and species), and a garnish of mysterious backstory. also a lot of Cardiff jokes (not to mention great accents!). i'm not sure it's actually all that good -- it's a bit too clever and self-aware, can stray into soap opera, and often takes off a bigger bite than its limited production budget can chew. nonetheless, i thoroughly enjoy it -- and not just because Eve Myles and Naoko Mori are utterly adorable in their very different ways! -- and I am looking forward to the third season. Buffy fans note that James Marsters appears in a couple of episodes. alas, Torchwood has been cut back to a six episode run for this year. i rather wonder if Davies' welcome has worn thin at the BBC...? though his replacement at the helm of Doctor Who is the aforementioned Steven Moffat, which bodes well. what we need, see, is Davies and Joss and JMS and Bryan Fuller and Rob Thomas running their own channel, that's what. 'tah. - -g - -- www.suddensound.com -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 06:35:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: Torchwood - --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Gregory Bossert wrote: > > alas, Torchwood has been cut back to a six episode run for > this year. i rather wonder if Davies' welcome has worn > thin at the BBC...? though his replacement at the helm of > Doctor Who is the aforementioned Steven Moffat, which bodes > well. what we need, see, is Davies and Joss and JMS and > Bryan Fuller and Rob Thomas running their own channel, > that's what. It's more that John Barrowman is busy with music and a possible return to the West End etc., just as Dr Who's been cut back this year due to Tennant's work with the RSC, first in Stratford and then in London. We caught him in 'Love's Labours Lost' in Stratford last October, and he certainly was the bright light of an uneven production It's obvious that Tennant worked with the RSC prior to playing the Doctor. Reviews were good for him in 'Hamlet', and I have friends who raved about the performance in Stratford. Alas, our tickets were for London in December -- and then he slipped a disc, poor guy, needed back surgery and only made 11 performance in January. I will say it was a remarkable ensemble. His understudy, Edward Bennett made a fine name for himself, Patrick Stewart was excellent as Claudius and Oliver Ford Davies (who is up against Stewart for an Oliver as best supporting actor) was an incredible Polonius. I am a Patrick Stewart fan and he was good as Claudius, but I daresay that Ford Davies was better as Polonius. It's usually such a thankless role, Polonius. Ellen, theatre-goer. ;) (I'm seeing Judi Dench and Frances Barber in 'Madame de Sade' next month.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:38:19 EDT From: W1GGY2@aol.com Subject: Re: Torchwood I like Torchwood quite a bit, as well as Dr. Who and also for Buffy fans, I highly suggest Hex which only ran for 2 seasons (the first being by far the best). I caught the Ashes to Ashes premiere show and I liked it...seems pretty in keeping with Life On Mars. Neither is an all time favorite but they're enjoyable. Of all the above-mentioned British shows, Hex was my favorite. Amy In a message dated 3/9/2009 6:37:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, glblair@hotmail.com writes: Speaking of BritTV fantasy/sci-fi, is Torchwood worth watching? There's a box set I've seen in a local shop and the synopsis and photos on the packaging look interesting. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:11:30 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?anna_maria_stj=E4rnell?= Subject: television Hi.. re British tv shows..just now I'm enjoying "Merlin" which admittedly has its problems..It's basically a version where the centuries-old magician is a teen at the same time as the once and future king. Since the Arthurian myths are compiled from so many sources it makes for an odd mix if all the important figures are in their late teens at the same time. By this rate they'll run out of stories in the second season..Oh well we'll see I hope. Anna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:01:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: television Did any of you watch the British series Jeckyll? I found it captivating... but I take it it's not coming back for a second series? tim - ----- Original Message ---- From: anna maria stjdrnell To: ecto@smoe.org Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 10:11:30 AM Subject: television Hi.. re British tv shows..just now I'm enjoying "Merlin" which admittedly has its problems..It's basically a version where the centuries-old magician is a teen at the same time as the once and future king. Since the Arthurian myths are compiled from so many sources it makes for an odd mix if all the important figures are in their late teens at the same time. By this rate they'll run out of stories in the second season..Oh well we'll see I hope. Anna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:18:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: television Personally, I tried the first episode of Jeckyll and couldn't bear it. But a friend who also teaches English Lit loved it. I guess it's up to the individual. I rather enjoyed Merlin. Now, I couldn't stand the BBC's recent take on Robin Hood, but maybe it's because the Merlin series didn't take itself quite as seriously I could laugh with it and not at it. :) Ellen "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." - -- JRR Tolkien ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:37:02 -0500 From: Jon Wesley Huff Subject: Re: Torchwood The thing about Torchwood, to me, is that it can be wildly uneven. I'm a Doctor Who fan so I have a definite soft spot for the show and when it's firing on all cylinders it's great. But I have a hard time recommending it to people because if they catch the wrong episode I'd frankly be a little embarrassed. I think overall the second season was a bit more consistent then the first (except the villain in the finale who was badly acted) and it'll be interesting to see what the third season is like. The neat thing about the third season is that it's only 5 episodes long but it's going to be broadcast in one week! So Monday through Friday there will be a new Torchwood episode. There is even talk that it will be shown on the same days in the UK and the US (BBC in the UK and BBC American in the US) so it'll be intriguing to see how many US fans tune in since it won't have to be downloaded in advance waiting for an eventual US release date. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:38 AM, wrote: > I like Torchwood quite a bit, as well as Dr. Who and also for Buffy fans, I > highly suggest Hex which only ran for 2 seasons (the first being by far the > best). I caught the Ashes to Ashes premiere show and I liked it...seems > pretty > in keeping with Life On Mars. Neither is an all time favorite but they're > enjoyable. Of all the above-mentioned British shows, Hex was my favorite. > Amy > > > In a message dated 3/9/2009 6:37:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > glblair@hotmail.com writes: > > Speaking of BritTV fantasy/sci-fi, is Torchwood worth watching? There's a > box > set I've seen in a local shop and the synopsis and photos on the packaging > look interesting. > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > ( > http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID > %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62 > ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:31:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: television In general, I think the (narrative & artistic) quality of UK TV is far more consistent than what we've got here in the U.S. Maybe less cooks are spoiling the brew or something. I also really like Skins. tim - ----- Original Message ---- From: Ellen Rawson To: ecto@smoe.org Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 11:18:47 AM Subject: Re: television Personally, I tried the first episode of Jeckyll and couldn't bear it. But a friend who also teaches English Lit loved it. I guess it's up to the individual. I rather enjoyed Merlin. Now, I couldn't stand the BBC's recent take on Robin Hood, but maybe it's because the Merlin series didn't take itself quite as seriously I could laugh with it and not at it. :) Ellen "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." - -- JRR Tolkien ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:53:59 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: television > Did any of you watch the British series Jeckyll? I found it captivating... but I take it it's > not coming back for a second series? Funny how Brits call it a "series" while the Yanks call it a "season", and what the Yanks call a "series" is what Brits call a "brand", or so I'm told. Can I get a wot wot? :-) - --Doug ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:36:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Music on TV Has this link been posted yet? It's from the Observer Music Monthly a couple of weeks ago, about music placement on television shows. I have a feeling someone's posted it already... If yes, sorry! http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/feb/15/television-music-skins Ellen "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." - -- JRR Tolkien ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:15:05 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?anna_maria_stj=E4rnell?= Subject: torchwood Hi. On "torchwood"..it's uneven as has been said..but some episodes are real hits..whilst others..oh let's just say they can be utterly terrible. There's been some interesting stuff nontheless so it might be worth a peek. I like Owen though he's a bit on the nasty side. Barrowman's acting is hit and miss though I adore him. The James Marsters bits are priceless. The Buffy connection in "Merlin" was of course Anthony Head as Uther, doing a good job. I just wish he'd sing more. Ahem. Anna ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:17:57 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Elin_Bekkebr=E5ten_Sj=F8lie?= Subject: Re: Torchwood Greg Blair skrev, 09. mars 2009 11:30: > Speaking of BritTV fantasy/sci-fi, is Torchwood worth watching? There's a box > set I've seen in a local shop and the synopsis and photos on the packaging > look interesting. > > From what I've seen, I eally enjoyed it. I have only seen a couple of episodes, though, as we don't have it here... Elin - -- http://lunacia.net/ http://photos.lunacia.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:17:50 -0400 From: "Richard Messum" Subject: Re: Music on TV - ----- Original Message ----- From: Ellen Rawson To: ecto@smoe.org Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 1:36 PM Subject: Music on TV Has this link been posted yet? It's from the Observer Music Monthly a couple of weeks ago, about music placement on television shows. I have a feeling someone's posted it already... If yes, sorry! http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/feb/15/television-music-skins Ellen "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." - -- JRR Tolkien Did Tolkien really say that? OK, i know that he was a mediaevalist, but honestly, that statement puts a few minor writers like Shakespeare, Dickens, Tolstoy, Joyce, Waugh and Amis (Kingsley and Martin) into the dumpster. Discuss. Or not.... Richard ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:33:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: Music on TV - --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Richard Messum wrote > "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just > books." > -- JRR Tolkien > > Did Tolkien really say that? OK, i know that he was a > mediaevalist, but honestly, that statement puts a few minor > writers like Shakespeare, Dickens, Tolstoy, Joyce, Waugh and > Amis (Kingsley and Martin) into the dumpster. I first came across it in a Guardian review of Tom Shippey's Tolkien biography back in 2000. Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 19:19:50 -0400 From: "Richard Messum" Subject: Re: Music on TV I don't doubt you, Ellen, i just find it an extraordinary statement. "Just books." All those years i spent studying EngLit, wasted on mere books ;o) (Well, we did do "Beowulf" so i suppose i am saveable.) Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: Ellen Rawson To: Richard Messum ; ecto@smoe.org Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Music on TV - --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Richard Messum wrote > "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just > books." > -- JRR Tolkien > > Did Tolkien really say that? OK, i know that he was a > mediaevalist, but honestly, that statement puts a few minor > writers like Shakespeare, Dickens, Tolstoy, Joyce, Waugh and > Amis (Kingsley and Martin) into the dumpster. I first came across it in a Guardian review of Tom Shippey's Tolkien biography back in 2000. Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:25:48 -0400 From: Paul Blair Subject: Hannah Thiem/Copal and Molly Zenobia in NYC/Boston ...though the Molly Zenobia appearance is NYC only. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Hannah Date: Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:21 AM Subject: [Copal] ::upcoming Copal shows in NYC and Boston ::3/14 & 3/18:: To: Copal Music Thanks to everyone who came out to the almost-sold-out Jan. 31st show @ the Middle East Up! We're cordially inviting you to a number of wonderful upcoming shows in both NYC & Boston. The first is this Saturday in NYC at a beautiful little cafe (that doesn't fit very many people so come early!) in the West Village. Isabel and I will be performing a mixture of works from various inspirations, and new music from the upcoming Copal album that Isabel recorded on. Later in the evening, experience Goli (Val + Vess on marimba and cello) and a special guest appearance by Molly Zenobia! The second show is next Wed. @ Ryles Jazz Club in Inman Square, Cambridge. A beautiful club with lovely drinks and dinner to be had for a small fee. Enjoy cocktails and dinner whilst listening to Copal + Esthema. We're excited to be part of their World Wednesdays series, sharing our eclectic global mix with a diverse audience. Sat. March 14th [NYC] COPAL: just strings @7p feat. Hannah Thiem (violin) and Isabel Castellvi (cello) @ Caffe Vivaldi 32 Jones Street (Bleecker St. near 7th Ave, West Village), NYC caffevivaldi.com 7-8p, all ages FREE Copal (myspace.com/copal): 7-8p Christine Santelli (christinesantelli.com): 8-9p Goli (golimusic.com): 9:30-11p Experience Copal pared down to acoustic strings evoking melodies inspired by Middle Eastern rhythms, dark Nordic melodies, Hungarian riffs, and Spanish-flavored cadences and harmonies. Violinist Hannah Thiem (Copal | Nyxyss | CoSM | Church) and cellist Isabel Castellvi (WetInk | ThingNY | Copal | Omer Avital Ensemble | SFE) join to paint pictures with music. - ---------------------------------------------- Wed. March 18th [Boston] World Wednesdays feat. Copal + Esthema @ Ryles Jazz Club 212 Hampshire Street Cambridge, MA 7:30pm, 18+, $10 purchase advance tix: www.ryles.com hosted by Medici Musica dining 5pm-11pm | show 8pm | genre world COPAL 8-9p NYC/Boston-based world-beat band emphasizing string fusion with electronic influences. Evoking melodies inspired by Middle Eastern rhythms, dark Nordic melodies, Hungarian riffs, and Spanish-flavored cadences and harmonies. Like lucid dreams, the sounds of Copal will carry your spirit away. myspace.com/copal ESTHEMA 9:30-11p Esthema's music is a fusion of sounds from different cultures and genres. Elements taken from the musical traditions of Eastern European/Balkan and Near/Middle Eastern music are intertwined with Progressive Rock and Jazz to create the sounds of a World Fusion Ensemble. The five musicians that shape the sound of Esthema bring together both Western and Eastern instruments to form a unique blend. Bouzouki, Oud, Doumbek, and Violin color the compositions with their beautifully Eastern tone while Guitar, Bass, and Drums elicit the many Western influences that shape the sound of Esthema. myspace.com/esthemamusic if you would like to unsubscribe from this list, send a note to hannahthiem@gmail.com - -- Hannah Thiem violinist, composer, photographer NYC/Boston myspace.com/hannahgypsy myspace.com/copal hannahthiemphoto.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:41:04 -0700 From: birdie Subject: ditty bops, van dyke parks, dan hicks & his hot licks Hello Friends- We are thrilled to report that McCabe's will be joining our friends at Goldenvoice in presenting a very special show with the legendary DAN HICKS AND THE HOT LICKS in performance at the beautiful EL REY theater on Wilshire Bl. on Thursday, March 26. Also on the bill is one of our favorite acts, THE DITTY BOPS. AND... if that weren't enough, our good friend VAN DYKE PARKShas just come aboard for this night as well! Wow! This will be a special seated show with exceptional sight lines, and is general admission. As a perk to McCabe's customers, we are offeringticketing through our own website, avoiding costly ticketing fees (If purchased elsewhere, an $8.50/per ticket surcharge is applied... those purchasing tickets through McCabe's would only pay our standard $4.00 charge per ORDER, not perticket. That translates to a savings of $13 for a pair of tickets, with even better savings if you purchase more! Dan is touring behind his upcoming releaseTangled Tales (his first release in 5 years!) with an evening featuring his most beloved songs from his extraordinary 35-year career. This promises to be an amazing night...it's not that often that Dan tours with the Hot Licks...and with The Ditty Bops and Van Dyke Parks there as well...well we can't wait! Hope to see you there! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:09:00 -0700 From: birdie Subject: Re: Music on TV canadian/US just saw a tweet that us/canucks have decided to keep doing co- productions and buying each others shows BUT both are lower their budgets..... So, instead of cancelling shows or not picking them up to air.... They will be doing things on the cheap. That said, my vote to NOT approve the basic contract the producers have offered IATSE is in the mail. If it gets t the point of the IA striking... Um.... YouTube is going to get more popular than ever. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V14 #67 **************************