From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V14 #64 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, March 7 2009 Volume 14 : Number 064 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Ecto-wiki [Markku Kolkka ] here they come... [birdie ] Carson Daly show shooting in Hotel Cafe [birdie ] Shameless self-promotion [Adam Kimmel ] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_ecto_wiki=2Fcomputers_answers?= ["Onna"] re: ecto-wiki [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] Fw: re: ecto-wiki [Greg Dunn ] Re: ecto-wiki ["Richard Messum" ] Re: ecto-wiki [Gregory Bossert ] Re: ecto-wiki ["F.J.Fornorn" ] Re: ecto-wiki [] here they come... [Steve VanDevender ] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?re=3A_Happy?= ["Onna"] Re: here they come... [birdie ] Re: here they come... [w1ggy2 ] Re: here they come... [Steve VanDevender ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:00:50 +0200 From: Markku Kolkka Subject: Re: Ecto-wiki kerry white kirjoitti viestissddn (ldhetysaika perjantai, 6. maaliskuuta 2009): > What besides Norton AntiVirus is absolutely necessary? Norton is one of those demo programs that should be removed. Replace it with either AVG Free http://free.avg.com/ or avast! Home Edition http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html - -- Markku Kolkka markku.kolkka@iki.fi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:35:20 -0800 From: birdie Subject: here they come... elton john's "rocket man" played last night on that cop show with Harvey Keitel michael jackson announced concert dates in London... by summer, this should be very interesting.... can led zep songs on CSI be far behind? one of the things that the older songs have over indies.... is the often extremely high production value.... so...since the ceiling is coming down best advice to indies is to up your production value bedroom studios and garageband are great for song demos, giving to family....giving away on myspace... but.... for licensing.... might be best to try to meet the ceiling. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:45:39 -0800 From: birdie Subject: Carson Daly show shooting in Hotel Cafe Carson Daly (late show on network TV) has been shooting in the Hotel Cafe.... You may want to check his listings.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 06:48:03 -0800 From: Adam Kimmel Subject: Shameless self-promotion If there are any Philip K Dick, Jeff NooneB and/or Raymond Chandler fans out there, I'd just like to draw their attention to this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/DiscarNation-Adam-Kimmel/dp/1849231206/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236349665&sr=1-1 [http://www.amazon.co.uk/DiscarNation-Adam-Kimmel/dp/1849231206/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236349665&sr=1-1] The book wot I wrote, available only on Amazon.B A cross between the above two, a mystery/thriller kinda thing in which the main character's world starts to unravel and holes seem to appear in his reality.B In the second half, the first half is turned on its head and the main character finds he has a murderous reputation and a mystery to solve. I've been told there's something of the Matrix in it but, to be honest, I've never been a Matrix fan, tending to draw from more primary sources. Anyway...just thought I'd say. Adam K ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:08:48 -0800 From: "Onna" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_ecto_wiki=2Fcomputers_answers?= Hi Bill: I am fairly new on Ecto, But have had a computer steady since 1996. Many computers.All windows OS (operating systems). I have never had a Mac by Apple. I have alot of friends that are mac heads and love it. I only know regular pc's and laptops. Having said that, I think it depends on what you intend to do. If you are going to do video or audio recordings. A good pc with lotsa storage memory, lots of RAM at least 2gig if not 3 or 4 , and in processing the highest you can afford. If you can get cable or dsl or fios (high speed is best) especially for uploads and downloads. I like having a laptop. I can use it anywhere in the house and it picks up from the router off the modem. It is also portable for business trips/or pleasure. Most hotels have wifi as well as cafe's and restaurants. One thing, it is better to have the best, if you have to take more time to save more money up for what you really want, do it. Also check on the deals they have in stores..if they are on sale ask why? If it is an older model..or out of date.. ew. Computers are a very quickly replaced item today, what was great last month can go pfffft. in a very short time. Good Luck! Onna http://myspace.com/onnasongs early1980 recordings&new music videos of the concert http://picasaweb.google.com/OnnasImages/OnnasFavoritePaintings http://donnasdreams.tripod.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill" To: Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:41 AM Subject: ecto wiki > thanks, kerry for asking this as I'm in the same position and have been > meaning to ask for technical assistance (for the layman) here. If a/v > is the primary consideration what do you need? do you even need a > computer as it seems I've seen equipment you can use with your tv. > any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > _______________________________________ > No viruses found in this incoming message > Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.3.5 > http://www.iolo.com > _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.3.5 http://www.iolo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:25:28 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: ecto wiki/computers answers IMHO if you're going to do a lot of video it is imperative that you have a few things: 1.FireWire interface (400 or 800) because nearly all cameras require this to transfer video, and USB just doesn't have the low latency needed - you'll drop frames. 2. big fast hard drives (uncompressed video takes a TON of bandwidth and space; even compressed DV video from most cameras takes about 12 GB per hour). If you're merging multiple video streams or cameras, multiply the space required by the number of sources, and add some for editing space. 3. relatively modern video card w/plenty of memory to keep up with displays from video editing programs. Audio isn't a big problem with any modern computer. If you're going to do any editing of the video, a computer is mandatory; any standalone system that allows more than primitive video splicing will probably be much more expensive than a high-end computer. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "bill" >To: >Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:41 AM >Subject: ecto wiki > > >> thanks, kerry for asking this as I'm in the same position and have been >> meaning to ask for technical assistance (for the layman) here. If a/v >> is the primary consideration what do you need? do you even need a >> computer as it seems I've seen equipment you can use with your tv. >> any advice would be greatly appreciated. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:09:24 -0600 From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: re: ecto-wiki Hi, I have read somewhere that once Mac gets more of the market share the virus writers will start aiming them at Macs, ie: Macs don't get them now because no one writes them for them. Thoughts? I got to keep "Webtv" as my address, but, the company became MSNTV and they offer a deal cheaper than what I pay now to keep my box and have a computer. I could get all my mail at my old address. With the 'real' computer in Redmond, WA, I can open a virus-laden letter in my box and see the code rather than have it do anything. Webtv is convenient due to its conversion of the signal to work on my TV and to work with a simple remote. I can sit 10 feet from my 32" CRT tv and the angle of visual acuity keeps me from noticing the lesser detail of the interlaced CRT vs a progressive scan LED screen monitor. Net video would be through a computer screen, but, I found out that I can use my non-digital vid recorder with its interlacing to record a progressive scan screen with no problems and the dithering artifacts seen when a small vid window is blown up to full screen are lost in the slight loss of detail due to the tape aspect of the recording. I can then use my stand alone DVDr to make a disc. I have some neat fractal animation I can see on my bigger screen this way. bye, Kerry KrW I'm Peter Pan! I'm perpetually young!! OW!! What's wrong with my back? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:33:58 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Dunn Subject: Fw: re: ecto-wiki Mac is UNIX, so a virus or malware for any UNIX-derived OS would be equally likely to be a threat to them all. Maintenence of proper permissions and security updates goes a long way toward evading susceptibility though; and since many companies bet their livelihood on UNIX-based servers, security flaws are usually spotted and fixed pretty quickly. Porting the fixes to various Linux, AIX, OS X, etc. systems is pretty straightforward since the architecture is quite regular. That said, I guess you could write a Mac-specific piece of malware, but it would be difficult to install without the user's acceptance (people blindly typing in their admin password without thinking where the program is coming from), and should be limited to just the user's account. The actual core internals are pretty safe from user-installed programs unless you give it that admin password! Just to be balanced, though, I've also used PCs for almost as long as Macs and only had one virus infestation, which was totally my fault. Using a safe browser like Firefox and a router between my cable and the computer, most stuff just isn't a problem. I do have a software firewall and AV, but they never seem to see any intrusions. >-----Original Message----- >>From: kerry white >>Sent: Mar 6, 2009 4:09 PM >>To: "That warm and fuzzy [place]" >>Subject: re: ecto-wiki >> >> Hi, I have read somewhere that once Mac gets more of the market share >>the virus writers will start aiming them at Macs, ie: Macs don't get >>them now because no one writes them for them. Thoughts? >> I got to keep "Webtv" as my address, but, the company became MSNTV and >>they offer a deal cheaper than what I pay now to keep my box and have a >>computer. I could get all my mail at my old address. With the 'real' >>computer in Redmond, WA, I can open a virus-laden letter in my box and >>see the code rather than have it do anything. Webtv is convenient due >>to its conversion of the signal to work on my TV and to work with a >>simple remote. I can sit 10 feet from my 32" CRT tv and the angle of >>visual acuity keeps me from noticing the lesser detail of the interlaced >>CRT vs a progressive scan LED screen monitor. >> Net video would be through a computer screen, but, I found out that I >>can use my non-digital vid recorder with its interlacing to record a >>progressive scan screen with no problems and the dithering artifacts >>seen when a small vid window is blown up to full screen are lost in the >>slight loss of detail due to the tape aspect of the recording. I can >>then use my stand alone DVDr to make a disc. I have some neat fractal >>animation I can see on my bigger screen this way. bye, Kerry >> >> KrW >>I'm Peter Pan! >>I'm perpetually young!! >>OW!! What's wrong with my back? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:26:23 -0500 From: "Richard Messum" Subject: Re: ecto-wiki Why do people rob banks? Because that's where the money is. Why do virus writers attack PCs? Because that's what most people use. But as more and more users switch to Macs, and as more people switch from Internet Explorer to Firefox or Opera, and as Linux becomes ever more popular, you can bet that the black hats will start to attack them, too. But the most important defense is common sense (plus a good anti-virus and anti-spyware program and a firewall -- all of which are available for free). When i bought my first PC (it ran Window 95), no one told me how important it was to have an AV program installed, and so, all innocence and naivete, i didn't install one. The computer was infected within about three weeks. Needless to say, i have paid a lot of attention to this matter ever since! Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: kerry white To: That warm and fuzzy [place] Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: re: ecto-wiki Hi, I have read somewhere that once Mac gets more of the market share the virus writers will start aiming them at Macs, ie: Macs don't get them now because no one writes them for them. Thoughts? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:29:50 -0800 From: Gregory Bossert Subject: Re: ecto-wiki On Mar 6, 2009, at 1:09 PM, kerry white wrote: > Hi, I have read somewhere that once Mac gets more of the market share > the virus writers will start aiming them at Macs, ie: Macs don't get > them now because no one writes them for them. Thoughts? this year marks my 30th anniversary of my first paying job in the computer industry, and my dad actually had access to a computer at home around 1970. and i was involved in early efforts to develop security for the web (working in the same small basement office in which ecto was created). i've worked professionally with OS X and the older Mac OSes, with Irix and Solaris and Linux and OSes you have never heard of, and with just about every release of Windows and DOS before that. i say all that only to attempt to avoid coming across as another opinionated wonk -- i really did work hard to understand this stuff. (accent on "did" -- i got throughly sick of the computer business and moved on to something even wackier...) anyway, i firmly believe that the Mac operating system is more secure due to it's design and design process. and because of that process -- which includes cooperating with standards bodies and encouraging decent inter-department communications within Apple -- i believe that the Mac OS will stay more secure in the foreseeable future. at this point, I would never put personal or private or valuable data on a Windows box. i don't own a TV, or a DVD player or CD player -- my Mac is connected to some speakers, and that is my entire entertainment system. (um, well, that and a LOT of books and musical instruments and such ;-) that same Mac is were i do all my research and sound design work, and likewise dabble in software development when i must. so, it's been pretty good bang for the buck. - -g - -- www.suddensound.com -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:57:00 -0500 From: "F.J.Fornorn" Subject: Re: ecto-wiki Another reason PCs get the bulk of the viruses (virii?) is due to their technological history. Windows was built on top of the old single user operating system called DOS. As it became evident over the years that even personal computers need to be multi-user, MS patched and shoe-horned Windows into a multi-user platform. Many viruses and worms used oversights in this coding to do their dirty work. Unix systems were designed to be multi-user from the start. As mentioned before, it is highly unlikely that a Mac/Unix virus could damage an entire machine, at best a single user account. The bigger concern these days is not limited to any one platform, it's the phishing stuff, tricking people into giving out private info to thieves. Common sense and skepticism are the best defenses against it. A good spam filter helps too. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:38:00 -0800 From: Subject: Re: ecto-wiki All this talk of macs & unix made me chuckle about back in the day (87) when I had my mac classic tricked out with 8 ram of memory (maxed out), a 10k modem...and what was the hard drive LOL 20mb or something? Yet...I hauled down the unix highway... Mostly to the server at kansas university.....and love hounds and others usenet groups....lol..then...i hotwired a GUI interface on to my netcom shell account and ran...mosaic...yep...on the mac classic....lol www.myspace.com/birdiebreeze - -----Original Message----- From: "F.J.Fornorn" Subj: Re: ecto-wiki Date: Fri Mar 6, 2009 4:59 pm Size: 851 bytes To: Ecto Another reason PCs get the bulk of the viruses (virii?) is due to their technological history. Windows was built on top of the old single user operating system called DOS. As it became evident over the years that even personal computers need to be multi-user, MS patched and shoe-horned Windows into a multi-user platform. Many viruses and worms used oversights in this coding to do their dirty work. Unix systems were designed to be multi-user from the start. As mentioned before, it is highly unlikely that a Mac/Unix virus could damage an entire machine, at best a single user account. The bigger concern these days is not limited to any one platform, it's the phishing stuff, tricking people into giving out private info to thieves. Common sense and skepticism are the best defenses against it. A good spam filter helps too. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:17:31 -0800 From: Steve VanDevender Subject: here they come... birdie writes: > elton john's "rocket man" played last night on that cop show with > Harvey Keitel The US remake of "Life on Mars". I haven't seen the British version but I kind of like the US version. Of course, it's been canceled. As getting a digital TV receiver gave me access to the local CW station, the other night I decided to watch "Reaper" since the reviews I had seen intrigued me (I think it's canceled now too, of course). I also saw a promos for "One Tree Hill" (whatever that is) that used the opening bars of Kristin Hersh's song "Torque". ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:38:46 -0800 From: "Onna" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?re=3A_Happy?= I was wondering if Happy Rhodes is still on here. I have been wanting to contact her in regards to one of her songs. You can reply privately to: desertrainpro@roadrunner.com Or to the list..I have tried the straight email from the myspace pages, that only goes to Vickie.. Tried to search for archives as well. Is this list archived? Thanks a bunch, Onna http://myspace.com/onnasongs early1980 recordings&new music videos of the concert http://picasaweb.google.com/OnnasImages/OnnasFavoritePaintings http://donnasdreams.tripod.com _______________________________________ No viruses found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo AntiVirus 1.5.3.5 http://www.iolo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:49:35 -0800 From: birdie Subject: Re: here they come... if this keeps up, everything is gonna get cancelled. I got my copy of the IATSE basic agreement that the producers want ratified.... Uh... Don't be surprised if you hear that the IA turns it down. Which would put us in the same boat as SAG (tv actors). They tried to railroad it, without the locals having time to study and discuss, but the overwhelming response by IATSE members is to reject it. There are hiring freezes and layoffs at every studio now, and lots of peeps already lost their homes and stuff so, going on strike - uh...why not? At this point. the world has so many problems - perhaps it will be best to shut off the TV, the stupid pop songs, and the lame action films and everybody go get a life solving some of the problems out there. even a walk on the beach to pick up trash is a good start. making a note to go do that tomorrow. cheers birdie On Mar 6, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Steve VanDevender wrote: > birdie writes: >> elton john's "rocket man" played last night on that cop show with >> Harvey Keitel > > The US remake of "Life on Mars". I haven't seen the British version > but > I kind of like the US version. Of course, it's been canceled. > > As getting a digital TV receiver gave me access to the local CW > station, > the other night I decided to watch "Reaper" since the reviews I had > seen > intrigued me (I think it's canceled now too, of course). I also saw a > promos for "One Tree Hill" (whatever that is) that used the opening > bars > of Kristin Hersh's song "Torque". ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:24:33 -0500 From: w1ggy2 Subject: Re: here they come... Personally, I like the British version of Life on Mars much better. The actor playing Gene Hunt is waaay better than Harvey Keitel. BBC America is about to start showing a follow up show soon with another detective going back in time to the 80's using the same Hunt character and actor. That should be interesting. Amy Steve VanDevender wrote: > The US remake of "Life on Mars". I haven't seen the British version > but > I kind of like the US version. Of course, it's been canceled. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:15:45 -0800 From: Steve VanDevender Subject: Re: here they come... w1ggy2 writes: > Personally, I like the British version of Life on Mars much better. One of these days I intend to do a comparison, but I barely have time right now to keep up with the handful of broadcast shows I have any interest in. And now a stack of "Battlestar Galactica" (new version) DVDs I also want to catch up on (season 3 and the first half of season 4). ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V14 #64 **************************