From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V14 #40 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, February 11 2009 Volume 14 : Number 040 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Recent changes to the Ectophiles' Guide ["The Ectophiles' Guide" ] Re: vienna [=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Elin_Bekkebr=E5ten_Sj=F8lie?= ] Fwd: MUSELETTER technical update/concerts [birdie ] Re: soundtracking [jjhanson@att.net] Re: soundtracking [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] Re: soundtracking [birdie ] Fwd: MUSELETTER What is an Issa Music Salon? [birdie Subject: Recent changes to the Ectophiles' Guide Latest changes to the Ectophiles' Guide 09 February 2009 New Guide entries added for: * Ella Edmondson * Issa * Lacy James * Judith Owen * Amanda Palmer * El Perro del Mar * Po' Girl Changes made to the entries for: * Susana Baca (new album) * Jonatha Brooke (new album) * Ane Brun (new album) * Dido (new album) * Melissa Ferrick (new album) * Anne Heaton (new album) * Life Without Buildings (additional album) * Jenn Lindsay (new album) * Sigur Ros (additional double-album info) - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are receiving this email because you have asked to be notified of updates to the Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music at http://www.ectoguide.org/. If you are no longer interested in receiving these notifications, please unsubscribe yourself using the form at http://www.ectoguide.org/guide.cgi?newsubscribe&action=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:34:03 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: soundtracking Hi, Adam Kimmel wrote: > An interesting, if somewhat familiar subject: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/feb/09/television-popand rock > > Especially cogent as I had only just received an e-flyer for a gig by > Catie Curtis that seemed to play up her contributions to various tv > soundtracks (yep, Grays Anatomy got a mention) as much as anything else. > Can't begrudge her that at all but, given her achievments, it seems an > odd focus Sadly, getting music into tv shows, films, video games and yes, even commercials (!) is one of the few ways artists can make money off their music these days. And since independent artists are increasingly shut out of even the "alternative" radio outlets (the KCRWs and WXPNs of the world, not to mention the satellite radio channels), it's one of the few ways remaining to get nationwide exposure in one fell swoop. (In fact, I'm headed to an event this weekend that is just for artists to showcase in front of a captive audience of music supervisors. I'm sure it'll be fascinating, in an apocalyptic sort of way...) - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:47:07 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Elin_Bekkebr=E5ten_Sj=F8lie?= Subject: Re: vienna Ellen Rawson wrote: > --- On Mon, 2/9/09, neile wrote: > > >> amazon.de is perfectly happy to mail things anywhere. I >> don't know >> German, but the interface is exactly like the other amazon >> sites, so I've >> faked my way through it and ordered from there at least >> twice. (I've >> ordered from amazon.fr, too, but at least I know a little >> French.) >> > > They will -- at a price. It works out to #19 for the CD and shipping to the UK. I'll wait for the UK release. (It's $20 from Amazon.com when it's released, so that's a little cheaper.) > And if you order it at the Vienna pages even cheaper: http://www.scarabcart.com/cgi-bin/viennateng/item.cgi?id=172 $14.99 Elin - -- http://lunacia.net/ http://photos.lunacia.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:49:28 -0500 From: morayati@email.unc.edu Subject: Re: soundtracking As much as I like the exposure, TV soundtrack songs really, really tend towards the middle-of-the-road. It's frustrating. There are so many songs that DO have the scope and expanse to anchor scenes, but you generally don't hear them. - -Sarah Quoting meredith : > Hi, > > Adam Kimmel wrote: >> An interesting, if somewhat familiar subject: >> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/feb/09/television-popand rock >> >> Especially cogent as I had only just received an e-flyer for a gig by >> Catie Curtis that seemed to play up her contributions to various tv >> soundtracks (yep, Grays Anatomy got a mention) as much as anything >> else. Can't begrudge her that at all but, given her achievments, it >> seems an >> odd focus > > Sadly, getting music into tv shows, films, video games and yes, even > commercials (!) is one of the few ways artists can make money off > their music these days. And since independent artists are > increasingly shut out of even the "alternative" radio outlets (the > KCRWs and WXPNs of the world, not to mention the satellite radio > channels), it's one of the few ways remaining to get nationwide > exposure in one fell swoop. > > (In fact, I'm headed to an event this weekend that is just for > artists to showcase in front of a captive audience of music > supervisors. I'm sure it'll be fascinating, in an apocalyptic sort > of way...) > > > -- > =============================================== > Meredith Tarr > New Haven, CT USA > mailto:meth@smoe.org > http://www.smoe.org/meth > =============================================== > hear at the HOMe House Concert Series > http://hom.smoe.org > =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:02:28 -0800 From: birdie Subject: Re: soundtracking All that said..... SAG still has the option to strike on the table The studios - film/TV all have had staff cutbacks and all have hiring freezes in effect Funding has been lost on many many film projects The studios and others have all cut back on the number of releases They also have cut back on the number of productions They have been repurposing TV shows to sell them to other countries Lots of indie film companies are going or are out of business - in chapter 11 now Plenty of people in post production - editors, mixers, supervisors and so on did not get paid - unexpectedly - going back into Nov-Dec of last year as production companies (even majors like ABC) ran out of money and shows went over budget from a combination of the failures on wallstreet and inflation. There are for rent signs all over town. I realise what has happened - happened real fast and most people are unaware of the scope or depth of it. There is more to come.... The switch from analog to digital for TV - will see many people just go to netflix, youtube, DVD's, and so on. Most people will be unhappy or unwilling or unable to pay for a subscription TV service now....in this economy. Do you keep the TV on Dish or Direct or Cable to do you keep your internet connection (if separate)? Most people will keep the internet and computer with DVD player. Your best bets? Sell your music direct to your fans - create DVD's - sell sheet music People are unemployed and home and lots of people have guitars and pianos and it's good for everyone's spirits to play music... SO.... Make it available for other people to play. TV? Sure people are still watching but learning new skills and finding jobs is more on peoples minds and thats all about computers, books, and music can be listened to - anywhere. Radio? Anything dependent on advertisers - when no one is shopping for retail is obviously in trouble that way, too - Radio and TV are both in the same boat - but radio costs less to produce than TV..... Best scene is small clubs/venues as people are still going out (or home dying to) and they all need the good cheer from each other and the music. So, look that all over and pay special note to ....companies failing - failing to pay key personnel on shows - going under.... And..... It is time for people to start working on NEW streams of income. Start selling sheet music and making DVD's!!! Don't count on this town. It's wall to wall trouble here. Birdie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:06:38 -0800 From: birdie Subject: Fwd: MUSELETTER technical update/concerts Begin forwarded message: > From: "I S S A" > Date: February 10, 2009 10:02:00 AM PST > To: birdies@ix.netcom.com > Subject: MUSELETTER technical update/concerts > > SHEEBA STORE TEMPLATE > (self-determined pricing) > i have not released it because i think it can be better. > i am still looking to complete it. > > WEBMASTER/DEVELOPER REQ'D > - familiar with PHP, MySQL, and preferably osCommerce > > - - - > > TOUR DATES > are starting to be put into place. check issalight.com > now is the time for those who have asked about doing house concerts > to contact us. info@sheeba.ca > > - - - > > what did the snail say when it went for a ride on the turtles back? > > > > > > > wheee! > > > > > -- > Change your info? Stop the emails? Easy! Just click this link ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:27:48 +0000 From: jjhanson@att.net Subject: Re: soundtracking I was surprised to hear a great older song on a TV show just this past week (or was it two weeks ago?)--used to great effect. It was on "The Ghost Whisperer" of all shows, and they used Shakespeare's Sister "Stay" to great effect. Odd thing was I'd just been listening to that CD. So often the music you hear is brand new stuff--was surprised to hear a fairly old song on a brand new show. Jeff - -------------- Original message from morayati@email.unc.edu: -------------- > As much as I like the exposure, TV soundtrack songs really, really tend > towards the middle-of-the-road. It's frustrating. There are so many > songs that DO have the scope and expanse to anchor scenes, but you > generally don't hear them. > > -Sarah > > Quoting meredith : > > > Hi, > > > > Adam Kimmel wrote: > >> An interesting, if somewhat familiar subject: > >> > >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/feb/09/television-popand rock > >> > >> Especially cogent as I had only just received an e-flyer for a gig by > >> Catie Curtis that seemed to play up her contributions to various tv > >> soundtracks (yep, Grays Anatomy got a mention) as much as anything > >> else. Can't begrudge her that at all but, given her achievments, it > >> seems an > >> odd focus > > > > Sadly, getting music into tv shows, films, video games and yes, even > > commercials (!) is one of the few ways artists can make money off > > their music these days. And since independent artists are > > increasingly shut out of even the "alternative" radio outlets (the > > KCRWs and WXPNs of the world, not to mention the satellite radio > > channels), it's one of the few ways remaining to get nationwide > > exposure in one fell swoop. > > > > (In fact, I'm headed to an event this weekend that is just for > > artists to showcase in front of a captive audience of music > > supervisors. I'm sure it'll be fascinating, in an apocalyptic sort > > of way...) > > > > > > -- > > =============================================== > > Meredith Tarr > > New Haven, CT USA > > mailto:meth@smoe.org > > http://www.smoe.org/meth > > =============================================== > > hear at the HOMe House Concert Series > > http://hom.smoe.org > > =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:49:53 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: soundtracking "This Woman's Work" has been used several times by jj abrams to similar effect. - ----- Original Message ---- From: "jjhanson@att.net" To: ecto@smoe.org Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:27:48 PM Subject: Re: soundtracking I was surprised to hear a great older song on a TV show just this past week (or was it two weeks ago?)--used to great effect. It was on "The Ghost Whisperer" of all shows, and they used Shakespeare's Sister "Stay" to great effect. Odd thing was I'd just been listening to that CD. So often the music you hear is brand new stuff--was surprised to hear a fairly old song on a brand new show. Jeff - -------------- Original message from morayati@email.unc.edu: -------------- > As much as I like the exposure, TV soundtrack songs really, really tend > towards the middle-of-the-road. It's frustrating. There are so many > songs that DO have the scope and expanse to anchor scenes, but you > generally don't hear them. > > -Sarah > > Quoting meredith : > > > Hi, > > > > Adam Kimmel wrote: > >> An interesting, if somewhat familiar subject: > >> > >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/feb/09/television-popand rock > >> > >> Especially cogent as I had only just received an e-flyer for a gig by > >> Catie Curtis that seemed to play up her contributions to various tv > >> soundtracks (yep, Grays Anatomy got a mention) as much as anything > >> else. Can't begrudge her that at all but, given her achievments, it > >> seems an > >> odd focus > > > > Sadly, getting music into tv shows, films, video games and yes, even > > commercials (!) is one of the few ways artists can make money off > > their music these days. And since independent artists are > > increasingly shut out of even the "alternative" radio outlets (the > > KCRWs and WXPNs of the world, not to mention the satellite radio > > channels), it's one of the few ways remaining to get nationwide > > exposure in one fell swoop. > > > > (In fact, I'm headed to an event this weekend that is just for > > artists to showcase in front of a captive audience of music > > supervisors. I'm sure it'll be fascinating, in an apocalyptic sort > > of way...) > > > > > > -- > > =============================================== > > Meredith Tarr > > New Haven, CT USA > > mailto:meth@smoe.org > > http://www.smoe.org/meth > > =============================================== > > hear at the HOMe House Concert Series > > http://hom.smoe.org > > =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:13:51 -0800 From: birdie Subject: Re: soundtracking I actually caught that - it was exceptionally well placed - a perfect placement in the closing scene - and I'm not just saying that cos I know someone who works on post production sound for that show and Marcella.... But....apart from it having been wonderfully executed - I do love my friends. So, it was a win-win :-) Also, the same music sup or editor or producers....had Carina Round's new song "Turn Around" in the show the week or so before.... Birdie On Feb 10, 2009, at 12:27 PM, jjhanson@att.net wrote: > I was surprised to hear a great older song on a TV show just this past > week (or was it two weeks ago?)--used to great effect. It was on > "The Ghost Whisperer" of all shows, and they used Shakespeare's > Sister "Stay" to great effect. Odd thing was I'd just been > listening to that CD. So often the music you hear is brand new > stuff--was surprised to hear a fairly old song on a brand new show. > > Jeff > -------------- Original message from morayati@email.unc.edu: > -------------- > > >> As much as I like the exposure, TV soundtrack songs really, really >> tend >> towards the middle-of-the-road. It's frustrating. There are so many >> songs that DO have the scope and expanse to anchor scenes, but you >> generally don't hear them. >> >> -Sarah >> >> Quoting meredith : >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Adam Kimmel wrote: >>>> An interesting, if somewhat familiar subject: >>>> >>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/feb/09/television-popand rock >>>> >>>> Especially cogent as I had only just received an e-flyer for a >>>> gig by >>>> Catie Curtis that seemed to play up her contributions to various tv >>>> soundtracks (yep, Grays Anatomy got a mention) as much as anything >>>> else. Can't begrudge her that at all but, given her achievments, it >>>> seems an >>>> odd focus >>> >>> Sadly, getting music into tv shows, films, video games and yes, even >>> commercials (!) is one of the few ways artists can make money off >>> their music these days. And since independent artists are >>> increasingly shut out of even the "alternative" radio outlets (the >>> KCRWs and WXPNs of the world, not to mention the satellite radio >>> channels), it's one of the few ways remaining to get nationwide >>> exposure in one fell swoop. >>> >>> (In fact, I'm headed to an event this weekend that is just for >>> artists to showcase in front of a captive audience of music >>> supervisors. I'm sure it'll be fascinating, in an apocalyptic sort >>> of way...) >>> >>> >>> -- >>> =============================================== >>> Meredith Tarr >>> New Haven, CT USA >>> mailto:meth@smoe.org >>> http://www.smoe.org/meth >>> =============================================== >>> hear at the HOMe House Concert Series >>> http://hom.smoe.org >>> =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:27:30 -0800 From: birdie Subject: Fwd: MUSELETTER What is an Issa Music Salon? Begin forwarded message: > From: "I S S A" > Date: February 10, 2009 2:20:00 PM PST > To: birdies@ix.netcom.com > Subject: MUSELETTER What is an Issa Music Salon? > > Since so many wrote back inquiring about the house concert/music > salon opportunity, I have created this outline. > > > WHAT IS A MUSIC SALON? > Concert takes place in a private venue (home, loft, gallery) rather > than a commercial venue. > Smaller communities that normally are not on 'touring routes' have > an opportunity to invite an artist further afield. > Ambience is often highly creative, fun and intimate. > Artists appreciate the greater respect and care that comes from the > 'heart' of a house concert. > Often the concert is by invitation only or advertised only to the > House Concerts mailing list to avoid conflict with concerts at > commercial venues in the area close to that timing. > > CONCERT > * songs > * readings from prose and poetry > * discussion about music/art/life afterwards > > AFTER CONCERT > * CD signing > * (optional) reception or meal > > - - - > > RESPONSIBILITIES OF HOST > Host acts as the 'promoter' and is responsible for set-up, expenses, > paying performer and suitable hospitality for guests. > Contract outlining agreement is issued as per normal concert through > Issa's representative, Fleming Artists. > > EXPENSES > * ISSA'S FEE > Self-determined pricing is Issa's preference with payment after > concert; tickets reserved in advance > * ACCOMMODATION > 1-2 nights at nearby hotel / b&b (modest fine) > * TRAVEL > To and from if an isolated date; or a small contribution towards > travel costs if the date part of an existing tour. > * SOUND > option 1: NO sound system (Issa prefers this simple, acoustic > approach) > option 2: small sound system > piano if possible > > HOW MUCH DOES THE HOST CHARGE FOR TICKETS? > Based on the above expenses and size of venue, host decides on the > ticket prices or self-determined pricing to be discussed > Issa prefers that children and teenagers are admitted for free and > encouraged to come. > (reserve space for them on floor at front) > > TIMING > * preferably in the next four months as Issa is using it as a means > for funding her 2nd CD release. > > OTHER OPTIONS > * Issa is open to your creative thinking > (local musician opening?) > (discussion panel afterwards with local artist, musician, etc.) > * ART GALLERY can be created of Issa paintings (unframed) > * USE OF TIME - Issa likes to contribute to the community as much as > possible in her travels so think about her speaking at nearby > schools, etc. > * Some hosts have simply engaged Issa and had a private salon for > friends. > > - - - > > PROPOSALS FOR AN ISSA MUSIC SALON > please include: > location and description of venue > ideal date/time frame > number of people room can hold > other details > send to: info@sheeba.ca > > - - - > > PROPOSALS FOR COMMERCIAL CONCERT VENUES > Please contact my representative, Jim Fleming, directly. > jim@flemingartists.com > > -- > Change your info? 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