From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #690 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, December 23 2008 Volume 13 : Number 690 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friends... [Mike Matthews ] Top 10 of 2009 [jjhanson@att.net] Re: Top 10 of 2009 [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] Re: Top 10 of 2009 [neal copperman ] My 2008 favorite Ecto releases ["Bill Mazur" ] My Best of 2008 [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit [Jeffrey Burka ] Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit [Greg Dunn ] Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit [Alan ] Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit [Greg Dunn ] Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:00:03 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************** Mark Lowry (no Email address) ********************** ********************* Kay Cleaves (no Email address) ********************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mark Lowry Mon December 22 1969 Capricarius Kay Cleaves Wed December 22 1976 Prancing Pony Uli Grepel Wed December 25 1968 Steinbock Joseph Wasicek Sat December 25 1976 Brown Eagle Stuart Castergine Mon December 30 1963 You Are Here Marvin Camras Sat January 01 1916 Tapehead Jeanne Schreiter Tue January 03 1967 Capricorn John Sandoval Wed January 04 1967 Capricorn Aly Fields Thu January 04 1990 Yield Paul Cohen Tue January 05 1954 Capricorn Tony Garrity Mon January 08 1962 Pool of Life Greg Bossert Tue January 09 1962 OfTheTimes Troy J. Shadbolt Thu January 14 1971 Capricorn Chris Sampson Wed January 15 1964 Void where prohibited Alex Bertran Fri January 15 1971 Capricorn Denis G Parslow Fri January 17 1964 ...of the Saint Ross Alford Thu January 17 1957 Positive Sarah Morayati Tue January 17 1989 Capricorn Nancy Whitney Mon January 19 1959 slippery when wet Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson Tue January 20 1970 Seanympf-Aquarius David Beery Tue January 20 1976 drum Terry Partis Sun January 22 1933 Rocker - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:27:43 +0000 From: jjhanson@att.net Subject: Top 10 of 2009 This has been an interesting year for me--I've obsessed over relatively few albums this year, but listened to the following albums the most. 1. Veda Hille - This Riot Life This album holds lots of surprises, and is one I love more with every listen. Veda continues to be an artist that pushes the boundaries, but in accessible and extemely musical ways. I also picked up Veda's side project album The Fits this year--if you haven't checked that out I highly recommend it. Cheesy, fun, folk with great vocals. 2. Anna Ternheim - Halfway to Five Points This album is hauntingly beautiful--at times reminds me of Sandy Denny or Linda Thompson--that great classic folk with great vocals. 3. Casey Stratton - Orbit Casey Stratton's album is one that has found continuous play this year. No great departure from his prevoius works, but a solid effort nonetheless. 4. Okkervil River - The Stand Ins Shearwater - Rook Okkervil River, a side project of Shearwater, and Shearwater's Rook are both albums/artists that I discovered this year. Complex, passionate, with haunting vocals, they're both rather hard to peg down or categorize--but both are solid albums. 5. Jewel - Perfectly Clear - Jewel's country effort continues to show Jewel's versatility--no matter what she attempts it still sounds a lot like Jewel. Her vocals on this album are really superb, though the songwriting, as ever, is a bit erratic. 6. Sarah Brightman - Symphony -This album is one I've continued to play all year. It's a pretty dramatic album, much better than the Christmas Themed Winter Symphony that came out later in the year that is sometimes annoyingly pop and sung too much in Sarah's upper register. And who'd have thought Sarah singing a duet wiht Paul Stanley of Kiss would actually be rather good? 7. Goldfrapp - Seventh Tree - Goldfrapp leaves behind their more dance-oritented material to produce an album that at times sounds like an intelligible Cocteau Twins, or even a bit like Wendy Rule. Overall a solid album. 8. Rachel Yamagata - Elephants - A double album that is both haunting and compelling. An interesting development--makes Rachel certainly an artist to watch. 9. Brendam James - The Day is Brave - Brendan was supposed to open for Alison Moyet for her U.S. tour that got cancelled before it really began. Luckily I saw her in London in January, but because he was opening I checked this album out and its a very powerful album--reminescent of 70's Elton John--heartfelt, piano pop featuring some pretty amazing songwriting. 10. Issa - Dragon Dreams - I was curious to see what Issa came up with for her first real album release, and was surprised to find an album with such complexity--here are the layered vocals ,the group vocal harmonies, and excellent production of When I Was a Boy ,but this album has a surprisingly upbeat, positive feel, bringing some of hte quirkiness of the early Jane recordings. A very pleasant surprise. Other albums worth mentioning.... Heidi Newfield - What am I Waiting For? Trick Pony's lead singer goes solo for an album that is pop-country at its best. Mor Karbasi - The Beauty and the Sea - a highlight of Globalquerque, this album features great vocals and beautiful arrangements. Martha Wainwright - I Know You're Married But I've Got Feelings Too - best album title of the year and some great songs Melissa Ferrick - Goodbye Youth - another consistently good album from a great live performer Beth Rowley - another English Duffy/Adele/Amy Winehouse compared artist that offers a surprisingly solid roots album with powerful vocals Frida Hyvonen - Until Death Comes - similar in theme/tone as Anna Ternheim, this album is very good, but somehow hasn't stuck in my head like Anna's1 My Brightest Diamond - A Thousand Shark's Teeth - Sharon Worden continues to demonstrate she's an artist of note. Live, she is entirely captivating. On album, there is something about her forced way of singing that leaves me a bit cold, but she's definitely more creative and has a more unique point of view than almost any other artist performing today. New finds this year: Snow Patrol - have had several hits but it wasn't until this year I really began to like them Also love their duet with Martha Wainwright Costeau - interesting band with great male vocals and solid songwriting Cut Copy/The Killers - the 80's live on Lykki Li - quirky, catchy, infectious, pop with a Bjork-like feel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:01:38 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: Top 10 of 2009 You need to get Frida Hyvonen's "Silence as Wild." It really fleshes out her sound beyond what we heard on "Until Death Comes" (itself one of my favorites of 2006 or 2007 or whatever year that was) and is way high in my top tier for the year. - ----- Original Message ---- From: "jjhanson@att.net" To: ecto@smoe.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:27:43 AM Subject: Top 10 of 2009 This has been an interesting year for me--I've obsessed over relatively few albums this year, but listened to the following albums the most. 1. Veda Hille - This Riot Life This album holds lots of surprises, and is one I love more with every listen. Veda continues to be an artist that pushes the boundaries, but in accessible and extemely musical ways. I also picked up Veda's side project album The Fits this year--if you haven't checked that out I highly recommend it. Cheesy, fun, folk with great vocals. 2. Anna Ternheim - Halfway to Five Points This album is hauntingly beautiful--at times reminds me of Sandy Denny or Linda Thompson--that great classic folk with great vocals. 3. Casey Stratton - Orbit Casey Stratton's album is one that has found continuous play this year. No great departure from his prevoius works, but a solid effort nonetheless. 4. Okkervil River - The Stand Ins Shearwater - Rook Okkervil River, a side project of Shearwater, and Shearwater's Rook are both albums/artists that I discovered this year. Complex, passionate, with haunting vocals, they're both rather hard to peg down or categorize--but both are solid albums. 5. Jewel - Perfectly Clear - Jewel's country effort continues to show Jewel's versatility--no matter what she attempts it still sounds a lot like Jewel. Her vocals on this album are really superb, though the songwriting, as ever, is a bit erratic. 6. Sarah Brightman - Symphony -This album is one I've continued to play all year. It's a pretty dramatic album, much better than the Christmas Themed Winter Symphony that came out later in the year that is sometimes annoyingly pop and sung too much in Sarah's upper register. And who'd have thought Sarah singing a duet wiht Paul Stanley of Kiss would actually be rather good? 7. Goldfrapp - Seventh Tree - Goldfrapp leaves behind their more dance-oritented material to produce an album that at times sounds like an intelligible Cocteau Twins, or even a bit like Wendy Rule. Overall a solid album. 8. Rachel Yamagata - Elephants - A double album that is both haunting and compelling. An interesting development--makes Rachel certainly an artist to watch. 9. Brendam James - The Day is Brave - Brendan was supposed to open for Alison Moyet for her U.S. tour that got cancelled before it really began. Luckily I saw her in London in January, but because he was opening I checked this album out and its a very powerful album--reminescent of 70's Elton John--heartfelt, piano pop featuring some pretty amazing songwriting. 10. Issa - Dragon Dreams - I was curious to see what Issa came up with for her first real album release, and was surprised to find an album with such complexity--here are the layered vocals ,the group vocal harmonies, and excellent production of When I Was a Boy ,but this album has a surprisingly upbeat, positive feel, bringing some of hte quirkiness of the early Jane recordings. A very pleasant surprise. Other albums worth mentioning.... Heidi Newfield - What am I Waiting For? Trick Pony's lead singer goes solo for an album that is pop-country at its best. Mor Karbasi - The Beauty and the Sea - a highlight of Globalquerque, this album features great vocals and beautiful arrangements. Martha Wainwright - I Know You're Married But I've Got Feelings Too - best album title of the year and some great songs Melissa Ferrick - Goodbye Youth - another consistently good album from a great live performer Beth Rowley - another English Duffy/Adele/Amy Winehouse compared artist that offers a surprisingly solid roots album with powerful vocals Frida Hyvonen - Until Death Comes - similar in theme/tone as Anna Ternheim, this album is very good, but somehow hasn't stuck in my head like Anna's1 My Brightest Diamond - A Thousand Shark's Teeth - Sharon Worden continues to demonstrate she's an artist of note. Live, she is entirely captivating. On album, there is something about her forced way of singing that leaves me a bit cold, but she's definitely more creative and has a more unique point of view than almost any other artist performing today. New finds this year: Snow Patrol - have had several hits but it wasn't until this year I really began to like them Also love their duet with Martha Wainwright Costeau - interesting band with great male vocals and solid songwriting Cut Copy/The Killers - the 80's live on Lykki Li - quirky, catchy, infectious, pop with a Bjork-like feel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:09:25 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Top 10 of 2009 On Dec 22, 2008, at 10:27 AM, jjhanson@att.net wrote: > Martha Wainwright - I Know You're Married But I've Got Feelings Too > - best album title of the year > and some great songs My favorite album title of the year: In the 7th Moon, the Chief Turned Into a Swimming Fish and Ate the Head of His Enemy by the Kasai Allstars (from Congo) neal np: Somewhere different now (live) - Girlyman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:48:05 -0800 From: "Bill Mazur" Subject: My 2008 favorite Ecto releases Many of my beloved Ecto artists had new releases in 2008. I feel that all of these releases contain outstanding music and represent some of the best work of their careers from each of them. Here are my favorites for the year: 1) Kevin Bartlett - Glow in the Dark 2) Louisa John-Krol - Djinn 3) Terami Hirsch - A Broke Machine 4) Jill Tracy - The Bittersweet Constrain 5) Emily Bezar - Exchange 6) Noe Venable - The Summer Storm Journals (released in 2007 but I have been truly appreciating it this past year) [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:28:21 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: My Best of 2008 My Favoritest Favorites, in no particular order (I really couldn't rate these 5): Veda Hille - This Riot Life Emily Bezar - Exchange Two Foot Yard - Borrowed Arms (this is a group assembled by Carla Kihlstedt, a really incredible violinist-composer-vocalist-songwriter everyone should check out) Frida Hyvonen - Silence is Wild Hanne Hukkelberg - Rykestrasse 68 (this is another one I think deserves a lot more attention from ectophiles) My HMs (honorable mentions): Goldfrapp - Seventh Tree Ani DiFrancoi - Red Letter Year Jill Tracy - Bittersweet Constrain Terami Hirsch - Broke Machine Anne Heaton - Flaming Red Issa - Dragon Dreams Jonatha Brooke - The Works Emiliana Torrini - Me & Armini Erykah Badu - New Amerykah Part 1 ...I'm certain I'm probably still forgetting something I really dug. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:19:36 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit so how come my mac still uses stuffit to open .zips and .rars? Shouldn't it have some other de-compression thingie built into the OS? - ----- Original Message ---- From: Alan To: Tim Jones-Yelvington Cc: Richard Messum ; ecto Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:36:19 PM Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 13:15 -0800, Tim Jones-Yelvington wrote: > oh, that was the newer format name I was trying to remember the name of it... i only remembered the "r," so I thought .ram was it. .ram is a format used by RealAudio movies. (They claim a bunch of extensions in the .r* space, including ".rpm" which is also used by the Redhat package Manager on Linux.) > I didn't realize they were significantly different from .sit, since my Mac uses stuffit to expand alla 'em. > > Come to think of it, everything I was thinking of as .sits are actually .zips ....I don't think I've seen an archived file with a .sit since the 90's, even on my Mac. > StuffIt was never a very good format. The only real advantage it has was the ability to handle a forked filesystem. (Something that is thankfully going away.) It was never very advanced. There was no way to test an archive to see if it was valid, a feature every other compression program of the last 20 years has had. There are tools to decompress the .sit files on Linux and Windows. They are not all that useful, however. The Linux version is pretty difficult to find and may not longer be supported. > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Richard Messum > To: ecto > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 3:01:16 PM > Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit > > I have been known to download files from Sendspace and Rapidshare from time > to time (ahem!) and they're usually compressed (i.e. zipped) .rar files -- > easily un-zippable on an XP system. > > Richard > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim Jones-Yelvington > To: Carolyn Andre ; ecto@smoe.org > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:50 AM > Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit > > > I actually thought expanders were part of all basic operating systems these > days. > > I know people who do a lot of sharing of whole albums via closed communities > on livejournal, using file-sending websites like sendspace or rapidshare, > and you have to compress the files to upload and download them > expediently.... they're all .sits or .rams, and I'm fairly certain not all > of those people are Mac users. > > ~tim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:36:19 -0800 From: Alan Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 13:15 -0800, Tim Jones-Yelvington wrote: > oh, that was the newer format name I was trying to remember the name of it... i only remembered the "r," so I thought .ram was it. .ram is a format used by RealAudio movies. (They claim a bunch of extensions in the .r* space, including ".rpm" which is also used by the Redhat package Manager on Linux.) > I didn't realize they were significantly different from .sit, since my Mac uses stuffit to expand alla 'em. > > Come to think of it, everything I was thinking of as .sits are actually .zips ....I don't think I've seen an archived file with a .sit since the 90's, even on my Mac. > StuffIt was never a very good format. The only real advantage it has was the ability to handle a forked filesystem. (Something that is thankfully going away.) It was never very advanced. There was no way to test an archive to see if it was valid, a feature every other compression program of the last 20 years has had. There are tools to decompress the .sit files on Linux and Windows. They are not all that useful, however. The Linux version is pretty difficult to find and may not longer be supported. > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Richard Messum > To: ecto > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 3:01:16 PM > Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit > > I have been known to download files from Sendspace and Rapidshare from time > to time (ahem!) and they're usually compressed (i.e. zipped) .rar files -- > easily un-zippable on an XP system. > > Richard > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim Jones-Yelvington > To: Carolyn Andre ; ecto@smoe.org > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:50 AM > Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit > > > I actually thought expanders were part of all basic operating systems these > days. > > I know people who do a lot of sharing of whole albums via closed communities > on livejournal, using file-sending websites like sendspace or rapidshare, > and you have to compress the files to upload and download them > expediently.... they're all .sits or .rams, and I'm fairly certain not all > of those people are Mac users. > > ~tim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:33:57 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit On Dec 22, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Tim Jones-Yelvington wrote: > so how come my mac still uses stuffit to open .zips and .rars? > Shouldn't it have some other de-compression thingie built into the OS? For some reason the Mac OS comes with a copy of Stuffit Expander and that's the default app for opening .zip and other types of archives. You can change this by selecting a zip file in the Finder, typing command-i to show info for the file, and going to the "Open With" section. Change the program to "Archive Utility" and then click the "Change All" button under it. Do this for each type of archive you want to change from using Stuffit Expander. jeff n.p. nothing, because the music server is at home and I'm not. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:42:57 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit If you installed Stuffit Expander or Deluxe on your machine, it usually changes a preference to force RARs and ZIPs to open in Stuffit. You can set it back to letting the OS open them, by selecting an example file and doing "Get Info" (command-I). The window will show you a drop-down menu and you should be able to choose "BOMArchiveHelper" as the application of choice and then tell it to "Change all...", which will bypass Stuffit for all files of that type. At 2:19 PM -0800 12/22/08, Tim Jones-Yelvington wrote: >so how come my mac still uses stuffit to open .zips and .rars? >Shouldn't it have some other de-compression thingie built into the >OS? > > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Alan >To: Tim Jones-Yelvington >Cc: Richard Messum ; ecto >Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:36:19 PM >Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit > >On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 13:15 -0800, Tim Jones-Yelvington wrote: >> oh, that was the newer format name I was trying to remember the >>name of it... i only remembered the "r," so I thought .ram was it. > >.ram is a format used by RealAudio movies. (They claim a bunch of >extensions in the .r* space, including ".rpm" which is also used by the >Redhat package Manager on Linux.) > >> I didn't realize they were significantly different from .sit, >>since my Mac uses stuffit to expand alla 'em. >> >> Come to think of it, everything I was thinking of as .sits are >>actually .zips ....I don't think I've seen an archived file with a >>.sit since the 90's, even on my Mac. >> > >StuffIt was never a very good format. The only real advantage it has >was the ability to handle a forked filesystem. (Something that is >thankfully going away.) > >It was never very advanced. There was no way to test an archive to see >if it was valid, a feature every other compression program of the last >20 years has had. > >There are tools to decompress the .sit files on Linux and Windows. They >are not all that useful, however. The Linux version is pretty difficult >to find and may not longer be supported. > >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Richard Messum >> To: ecto >> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 3:01:16 PM >> Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit >> >> I have been known to download files from Sendspace and Rapidshare from time >> to time (ahem!) and they're usually compressed (i.e. zipped) .rar files -- >> easily un-zippable on an XP system. >> >> Richard >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Tim Jones-Yelvington >> To: Carolyn Andre ; ecto@smoe.org >> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:50 AM >> Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit >> >> >> I actually thought expanders were part of all basic operating systems these >> days. >> >> I know people who do a lot of sharing of whole albums via closed communities >> on livejournal, using file-sending websites like sendspace or rapidshare, >> and you have to compress the files to upload and download them >> expediently.... they're all .sits or .rams, and I'm fairly certain not all >> of those people are Mac users. >> >> ~tim - -- - -- | Greg Dunn | I may just skip college and stay | | gregdunn@indy.net | home. It'll save me the trouble | | The Sultan of Slack(tm) | of moving back in later. | | http://www.indy.net/~gregdunn/ | Daria | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:47:21 -0800 From: Alan Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 14:19 -0800, Tim Jones-Yelvington wrote: > so how come my mac still uses stuffit to open .zips and .rars? Shouldn't it have some other de-compression thingie built into the OS? > StuffIt is not built into the OS. It is an application. unzip and unrar should be available for os x. Not certain what it takes to compile them since I do not use OS X. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Alan > To: Tim Jones-Yelvington > Cc: Richard Messum ; ecto > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:36:19 PM > Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit > > On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 13:15 -0800, Tim Jones-Yelvington wrote: > > oh, that was the newer format name I was trying to remember the name of it... i only remembered the "r," so I thought .ram was it. > > .ram is a format used by RealAudio movies. (They claim a bunch of > extensions in the .r* space, including ".rpm" which is also used by the > Redhat package Manager on Linux.) > > > I didn't realize they were significantly different from .sit, since my Mac uses stuffit to expand alla 'em. > > > > Come to think of it, everything I was thinking of as .sits are actually .zips ....I don't think I've seen an archived file with a .sit since the 90's, even on my Mac. > > > > StuffIt was never a very good format. The only real advantage it has > was the ability to handle a forked filesystem. (Something that is > thankfully going away.) > > It was never very advanced. There was no way to test an archive to see > if it was valid, a feature every other compression program of the last > 20 years has had. > > There are tools to decompress the .sit files on Linux and Windows. They > are not all that useful, however. The Linux version is pretty difficult > to find and may not longer be supported. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Richard Messum > > To: ecto > > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 3:01:16 PM > > Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit > > > > I have been known to download files from Sendspace and Rapidshare from time > > to time (ahem!) and they're usually compressed (i.e. zipped) .rar files -- > > easily un-zippable on an XP system. > > > > Richard > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tim Jones-Yelvington > > To: Carolyn Andre ; ecto@smoe.org > > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:50 AM > > Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit > > > > > > I actually thought expanders were part of all basic operating systems these > > days. > > > > I know people who do a lot of sharing of whole albums via closed communities > > on livejournal, using file-sending websites like sendspace or rapidshare, > > and you have to compress the files to upload and download them > > expediently.... they're all .sits or .rams, and I'm fairly certain not all > > of those people are Mac users. > > > > ~tim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:13:14 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit At 2:47 PM -0800 12/22/08, Alan wrote: >On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 14:19 -0800, Tim Jones-Yelvington wrote: >> so how come my mac still uses stuffit to open .zips and .rars? >>Shouldn't it have some other de-compression thingie built into the >>OS? >> > >StuffIt is not built into the OS. It is an application. unzip and >unrar should be available for os x. Not certain what it takes to >compile them since I do not use OS X. > The OS will open ZIP files by itself. If it won't open RARs, you can get MacPAR Deluxe (shareware) or unRARX (freeware) to handle them for you. - -- - -- | Greg Dunn | god money's not looking for the | | gregdunn@indy.net | cure. god money's not concerned | | The Sultan of Slack(tm) | with the sick among the pure. | | http://www.indy.net/~gregdunn/ | Trent Reznor | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:15:54 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit Thanks, that's helpful. Stuffit seems to work OK still for unzipping, but it always pulls up the link to download the latest version, which is irritating. I think I use the archive utility all the time to create my own .zips, but never bothered to put two and two together. - ----- Original Message ---- From: Jeffrey Burka To: ecto@smoe.org Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 4:33:57 PM Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit On Dec 22, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Tim Jones-Yelvington wrote: > so how come my mac still uses stuffit to open .zips and .rars? > Shouldn't it have some other de-compression thingie built into the OS? For some reason the Mac OS comes with a copy of Stuffit Expander and that's the default app for opening .zip and other types of archives. You can change this by selecting a zip file in the Finder, typing command-i to show info for the file, and going to the "Open With" section. Change the program to "Archive Utility" and then click the "Change All" button under it. Do this for each type of archive you want to change from using Stuffit Expander. jeff n.p. nothing, because the music server is at home and I'm not. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:49:57 -0600 From: "Amy-Collected Sounds" Subject: RE: My Best of 2008 Tim says: >Hanne Hukkelberg - Rykestrasse 68 (this is another one I think deserves a >lot more attention from ectophiles) I just downloaded this from emusic last night. I've only heard it a couple of times but I agree, it's yummy. I'm having a hard time getting my list together. So much good music! ~Amy ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #690 ***************************