From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #687 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, December 20 2008 Volume 13 : Number 687 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fwd: Bat For Lashes UK Tour 2009 ["Karen Hester" ] Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit [Carolyn Andre ] Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit [Greg Dunn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:51:06 -0500 From: "Karen Hester" Subject: Fwd: Bat For Lashes UK Tour 2009 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bat For Lashes Bat For Lashes UK Tour 2009 Seasons greetings! It is a pleasure to announce that Bat For Lashes is playing a 9 date UK Tour in April 2009. You can also find full details on the 'Live' page of the Bat For Lashes website. http://www.batforlashes.com/live/ Have yourselves a wonderful and relaxing Christmas holiday xx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:09:31 -0600 From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit At 09:43 PM 12/18/2008, Steve wrote: >neile writes: > > .sit can be opened by unstuffit, which is a free expansion software, which > > I believe comes loaded on Macs. At least, I don't recall downloading it in > > recent years. I assume in this PC-oriented world it is available for the > > PC. > >Yeah, but I run Linux, and I did not see a version of Stuffit Expander >for Linux using simple googlemancy, which is why I was temporarily >miffed until I found the way to download the individual MP3 files. Well, Smith Micro does have a not-free version for Linux/Solaris, but for some reason they list it under Windows: http://my.smithmicro.com/unix/stuffit/index.html > > Personally, i'm still trying to figure out how to open a couple of Cathy > > Lesurf .ram files i downloaded a fortnight ago. I blame myself. > >I think those just have a bit of text in them that links to the real >Real stream, unless those are the files that have the contents of the >Real stream in them. So if you get a copy of Realplayer it can probably >open them. Yeah, Richard, if what you retrieved are .ram files, they do not actually contain music, just the text link to the real music. Depends if you want to just listen to the music - if so, as Steve says, RealPlayer will open the .ram file and navigate to the online location for the actual music to play it - or wanted to download the music for offline listening - in which case you can open the .ram file with any text editor that you have, and you will find the link to the actual music file. However, depending on the server you might not be able to download it. Regards, Carolyn Andre - --- candre@house-of-music.com Chicago, IL / USA Support Independent Music! Use the Internet http://house-of-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:12:02 -0600 From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Enjoy the Winter Solstice.. ..and have a Crispy Merrymas, too! KrW I'm Peter Pan! I'm perpetually young!! OW!! What's wrong with my back? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:46:34 -0600 From: Doug Subject: Re: Matador Records and my 5-year old iBook g4.... When it comes to naming CD rippers, instead of naming one "CD paranoia" or "Max", would it be in poor taste to name one "Jack"? *g* - --Doug > what are you using as a ripper? You could try Max, which is based on > cdparanoia (one of the best rippers out there). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 08:50:11 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit I actually thought expanders were part of all basic operating systems these days. I know people who do a lot of sharing of whole albums via closed communities on livejournal, using file-sending websites like sendspace or rapidshare, and you have to compress the files to upload and download them expediently.... they're all .sits or .rams, and I'm fairly certain not all of those people are Mac users. ~tim - ----- Original Message ---- From: Carolyn Andre To: ecto@smoe.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 9:09:31 AM Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit At 09:43 PM 12/18/2008, Steve wrote: >neile writes: > > .sit can be opened by unstuffit, which is a free expansion software, which > > I believe comes loaded on Macs. At least, I don't recall downloading it in > > recent years. I assume in this PC-oriented world it is available for the > > PC. > >Yeah, but I run Linux, and I did not see a version of Stuffit Expander >for Linux using simple googlemancy, which is why I was temporarily >miffed until I found the way to download the individual MP3 files. Well, Smith Micro does have a not-free version for Linux/Solaris, but for some reason they list it under Windows: http://my.smithmicro.com/unix/stuffit/index.html > > Personally, i'm still trying to figure out how to open a couple of Cathy > > Lesurf .ram files i downloaded a fortnight ago. I blame myself. > >I think those just have a bit of text in them that links to the real >Real stream, unless those are the files that have the contents of the >Real stream in them. So if you get a copy of Realplayer it can probably >open them. Yeah, Richard, if what you retrieved are .ram files, they do not actually contain music, just the text link to the real music. Depends if you want to just listen to the music - if so, as Steve says, RealPlayer will open the .ram file and navigate to the online location for the actual music to play it - or wanted to download the music for offline listening - in which case you can open the .ram file with any text editor that you have, and you will find the link to the actual music file. However, depending on the server you might not be able to download it. Regards, Carolyn Andre - --- candre@house-of-music.com Chicago, IL / USA Support Independent Music! Use the Internet http://house-of-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:18:36 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: Matador Records and my 5-year old iBook g4.... ...it's not that big a deal. I just switch to my partner's power book (or whatever they call powerbooks now... macbook pro??), rip there, and then reburn. I just found it curious that one particular record label's discs were consistently being rejected and wondered if someone with more knowledge of the process of disc-pressing might have any theories as to why my computer doesn't like Matador. - ----- Original Message ---- From: Doug To: ecto@smoe.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 10:46:34 AM Subject: Re: Matador Records and my 5-year old iBook g4.... When it comes to naming CD rippers, instead of naming one "CD paranoia" or "Max", would it be in poor taste to name one "Jack"? *g* - --Doug > what are you using as a ripper? You could try Max, which is based on > cdparanoia (one of the best rippers out there). ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:01:16 -0500 From: "Richard Messum" Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit I have been known to download files from Sendspace and Rapidshare from time to time (ahem!) and they're usually compressed (i.e. zipped) .rar files -- easily un-zippable on an XP system. Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Jones-Yelvington To: Carolyn Andre ; ecto@smoe.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit I actually thought expanders were part of all basic operating systems these days. I know people who do a lot of sharing of whole albums via closed communities on livejournal, using file-sending websites like sendspace or rapidshare, and you have to compress the files to upload and download them expediently.... they're all .sits or .rams, and I'm fairly certain not all of those people are Mac users. ~tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:15:44 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit oh, that was the newer format name I was trying to remember the name of it... i only remembered the "r," so I thought .ram was it. I didn't realize they were significantly different from .sit, since my Mac uses stuffit to expand alla 'em. Come to think of it, everything I was thinking of as .sits are actually .zips ....I don't think I've seen an archived file with a .sit since the 90's, even on my Mac. - ----- Original Message ---- From: Richard Messum To: ecto Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 3:01:16 PM Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit I have been known to download files from Sendspace and Rapidshare from time to time (ahem!) and they're usually compressed (i.e. zipped) .rar files -- easily un-zippable on an XP system. Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Jones-Yelvington To: Carolyn Andre ; ecto@smoe.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit I actually thought expanders were part of all basic operating systems these days. I know people who do a lot of sharing of whole albums via closed communities on livejournal, using file-sending websites like sendspace or rapidshare, and you have to compress the files to upload and download them expediently.... they're all .sits or .rams, and I'm fairly certain not all of those people are Mac users. ~tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:30:41 -0500 From: "Richard Messum" Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit I don't remember ever seeing a .sit file before-- but that could just be my lousy memory. Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Jones-Yelvington To: Richard Messum ; ecto Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit oh, that was the newer format name I was trying to remember the name of it... i only remembered the "r," so I thought .ram was it. I didn't realize they were significantly different from .sit, since my Mac uses stuffit to expand alla 'em. Come to think of it, everything I was thinking of as .sits are actually .zips ....I don't think I've seen an archived file with a .sit since the 90's, even on my Mac. - ----- Original Message ---- From: Richard Messum To: ecto Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 3:01:16 PM Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit I have been known to download files from Sendspace and Rapidshare from time to time (ahem!) and they're usually compressed (i.e. zipped) .rar files -- easily un-zippable on an XP system. Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Jones-Yelvington To: Carolyn Andre ; ecto@smoe.org Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit I actually thought expanders were part of all basic operating systems these days. I know people who do a lot of sharing of whole albums via closed communities on livejournal, using file-sending websites like sendspace or rapidshare, and you have to compress the files to upload and download them expediently.... they're all .sits or .rams, and I'm fairly certain not all of those people are Mac users. ~tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:41:47 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit It's a proprietary format pushed on the Mac community in the early 90s by a company called Aladdin Systems (then Allume, now Smith Micro); they hook you into using the format by offering a free un-stuffing application, then if you want to compress your own files, charge for a full-featured app that does lots of other stuff the casual user probably doesn't need. Last I looked, the full app was $80. I'm not sure why they think we've needed this program upgraded 12 times - especially when the zip and gzip formats are already supported by tools that come with nearly all computers. I'm biased against it because it's not a particularly user-friendly tool (and unnecessarily expensive to maintain). It's also bad that the proprietary format and continual upgrades make it difficult for open source OSes to support it. At 6:30 PM -0500 12/19/08, Richard Messum wrote: >I don't remember ever seeing a .sit file before-- but that could >just be my lousy memory. > >Richard > >----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Jones-Yelvington >To: Richard Messum ; ecto >Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 4:15 PM >Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit > > >oh, that was the newer format name I was trying to remember the name >of it... i only remembered the "r," so I thought .ram was it. > >I didn't realize they were significantly different from .sit, since >my Mac uses stuffit to expand alla 'em. > >Come to think of it, everything I was thinking of as .sits are >actually .zips ....I don't think I've seen an archived file with a >.sit since the 90's, even on my Mac. > > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Richard Messum >To: ecto >Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 3:01:16 PM >Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit > >I have been known to download files from Sendspace and Rapidshare from time >to time (ahem!) and they're usually compressed (i.e. zipped) .rar files -- >easily un-zippable on an XP system. > >Richard >----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Jones-Yelvington >To: Carolyn Andre ; ecto@smoe.org >Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 11:50 AM >Subject: Re: .rams and .sits and stuffit > > >I actually thought expanders were part of all basic operating systems these >days. > >I know people who do a lot of sharing of whole albums via closed communities >on livejournal, using file-sending websites like sendspace or rapidshare, >and you have to compress the files to upload and download them >expediently.... they're all .sits or .rams, and I'm fairly certain not all >of those people are Mac users. > >~tim - -- - -- | Greg Dunn | Every year is getting shorter, | | gregdunn@indy.net | never seem to find the time | | The Sultan of Slack(tm) | Plans that either come to nought | | http://www.indy.net/~gregdunn/ | or half a page of scribbled lines | | | Pink Floyd | ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #687 ***************************