From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #681 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, December 13 2008 Volume 13 : Number 681 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Florence and the Machine in the Guardian [Adam Kimmel ] RE: Issa's Dragon Dreams.... ["Michael Colford" ] Re: Florence and the Machine in the Guardian [neal copperman ] Kristin Hersh at the Old Town School of Folk Music, 12/7 (and 50 Foot Wave) [morayati@email.unc] Re: Kristin Hersh at the Old Town School of Folk Music, 12/7 (and 50 Foot Wave) [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] Congrats KB! ["Bill Mazur" ] Re: Cyoakha Grace O'Manion-art is almost music [neal copperman Subject: Florence and the Machine in the Guardian A few weeks ago I posted a surprisingly positive review of a Florence and the Machine gig I went to, having attended on the basis of one CD single which I thought had promise and come away very impressed. Well, she's now the Brits Critic's Choice Award, as mentioned in today's Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/dec/12/florence-and-the-machin e-britawards I'm normally averse to this kind of hype, especially at this point when she only has two singles out, but having seen her live I can only wish her well. Adam K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:24:20 -0500 From: "Michael Colford" Subject: RE: Issa's Dragon Dreams.... Got it on Wednesday and listened to it for the first time last night. Good assessment, Tim. At times it reminds me of "When I Was a Boy." First impression is positive. Michael Michael R. Colford Chlotrudis Society for Independent Film, President P.O. Box 301237 Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 781 526-5384 colford@chlotrudis.org http://www.chlotrudis.org/ "Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion!" - -- Kittie Farmer, Donnie Darko - -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington [mailto:timjy@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:56 PM To: Untitled Subject: Issa's Dragon Dreams.... ...arrived this evening. Totally kooky. I'd heard a lot of these songs live, but in their recorded form they actually sound even more performance arty. Almost comparable to Amy X Neuberg. I can dig it. Anyone else get theirs yet? tim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:23:26 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Florence and the Machine in the Guardian You are so trendy Adam! I think the Guardian should do a story on YOU and your musical prescience :) neal np: The Mande Variations - Toumani Diabate On Dec 12, 2008, at 1:03 AM, Adam Kimmel wrote: > A few weeks ago I posted a surprisingly positive review of a > Florence and > the Machine gig I went to, having attended on the basis of one CD > single > which I thought had promise and come away very impressed. > > Well, she's now the Brits Critic's Choice Award, as mentioned in > today's > Guardian: > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/dec/12/florence-and-the-machin > e-britawards > > I'm normally averse to this kind of hype, especially at this point > when > she only has two singles out, but having seen her live I can only wish > her well. > > > > Adam K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:25:04 -0500 From: meredith Subject: [Fwd: New York Times Featured Artist of the Week!] Some news of interest from Anne Heaton. I continue to recommend her new album, _Blazing Red_ highly -- it's one of the best things I've heard this year. It'll be available more widely in the new year, but for now she is selling it at shows, of which she's going to be doing many all over the place. I saw her do a WFUV-sponsored in-the-round at The Living Room in NYC the other night, with Meg Hutchinson, Natalia Zukerman, and Antje Duvekot. They all sang and played on one another's songs, and it was a lovely evening. Incidentally, those are three other names anyone interested in the contemporary folkie scene needs to be aware of -- particularly Meg Hutchinson, who is a really affecting writer and has a kind of unconventional voice, and Natalia Zukerman, who is still trying to break out of the Ani-clone mode but is such an incredible instrumentalist that it doesn't matter. (This summer she was in Susan Werner's band playing lap slide guitar alongside Trina Hamlin's harmonica, and it was an *unbelievable* trio.) Meredith :) - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New York Times Featured Artist of the Week! Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:22:43 -0500 From: Anne Heaton To: Hi there nice people, Some fun good news!....I'm the featured artist this week on the New York Times pop music podcast. There's some chatting and I'm playing "Jump" live with bassist Charlie Rose. Here it is... http://podcasts.nytimes.com/podcasts/2008/12/10/10musicreview.mp3 http://www.nytimes.com/ref/multimedia/podcasts.html Stay tuned for more tour dates and wishing you peace during this holiday season. http://www.anneheaton.com http://www.myspace.com/anneheaton Ps: Here is a playful video my talented friend Rose Polenzani made after a show we had last week with Rose Cousins and Jennifer Kimball. Yay puppets! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQYVPH_JrP4 To edit your subscription preferences, visit: http://giraffegiraffe.com/gg/r/Rn31/nZcM6Q ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:33:51 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: [Fwd: New York Times Featured Artist of the Week!] There's been a lot of buzz on Natalia. I saw her several times two years ago and thought she showed promise but was still trying to find her voice. I'd be interested to see where she was at now. She will be in Albuquerque in March, so maybe I'll get my chance. I've never seen Meg perform, but I love her CD. The songwriting seems really strong, full of great images and catchy, subtle phrases. I was surprised at the lukewarm review in the All Music Guide, as my experience is completely the opposite. Not flashy, but understated and intriguing. I'm looking forward to hearing more from her. neal np: Almora - Essev Bar nr: The Well of Lost Plots - Jasper Fforde On Dec 12, 2008, at 10:25 AM, meredith wrote: > Some news of interest from Anne Heaton. > > I continue to recommend her new album, _Blazing Red_ highly -- it's > one of the best things I've heard this year. It'll be available more > widely in the new year, but for now she is selling it at shows, of > which she's going to be doing many all over the place. > > I saw her do a WFUV-sponsored in-the-round at The Living Room in NYC > the other night, with Meg Hutchinson, Natalia Zukerman, and Antje > Duvekot. They all sang and played on one another's songs, and it > was a lovely evening. > > Incidentally, those are three other names anyone interested in the > contemporary folkie scene needs to be aware of -- particularly Meg > Hutchinson, who is a really affecting writer and has a kind of > unconventional voice, and Natalia Zukerman, who is still trying to > break out of the Ani-clone mode but is such an incredible > instrumentalist that it doesn't matter. (This summer she was in > Susan Werner's band playing lap slide guitar alongside Trina > Hamlin's harmonica, and it was an *unbelievable* trio.) > > Meredith :) > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: New York Times Featured Artist of the Week! > Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:22:43 -0500 > From: Anne Heaton > To: > > Hi there nice people, > Some fun good news!....I'm the featured artist this week on the New > York Times pop music podcast. There's some chatting and I'm playing > "Jump" live with bassist Charlie Rose. Here it is... > > http://podcasts.nytimes.com/podcasts/2008/12/10/10musicreview.mp3 > > http://www.nytimes.com/ref/multimedia/podcasts.html > > Stay tuned for more tour dates and wishing you peace during this > holiday season. > > http://www.anneheaton.com > http://www.myspace.com/anneheaton > > Ps: Here is a playful video my talented friend Rose Polenzani made > after a show we had last week with Rose Cousins and Jennifer Kimball. > Yay puppets! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQYVPH_JrP4 > > > To edit your subscription preferences, visit: > http://giraffegiraffe.com/gg/r/Rn31/nZcM6Q ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:08:59 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: [Fwd: New York Times Featured Artist of the Week!] Hi, neal copperman wrote: > There's been a lot of buzz on Natalia. I saw her several times two > years ago and thought she showed promise but was still trying to find > her voice. I'd be interested to see where she was at now. She will be > in Albuquerque in March, so maybe I'll get my chance. Check her out -- I think she's getting there, for sure. Plus she's just a generally all around great and fun person worth supporting. :) > I've never seen Meg perform, but I love her CD. The songwriting seems > really strong, full of great images and catchy, subtle phrases. She's really a subtly phenomenal writer. Live she's very understated, she just stands there and sings her songs, and it could be really boring but her lyrics are so evocative she draws you in and you can't help but pay full attention. - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:16:03 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Lights! Hanukkah PBS Special This Month Hi, I'm just a posting fool today ... beats working. :) There's a PBS special airing at various times this month that may be of interest: "Lights! Celebrate Hanukkah Live In Concert". It features a friend of mine, Michelle Citrin as well as The Klezmatics, Mare Winningham (!) and several others. A good description is here: http://tv.azpm.org/schedules/episode/15809/ I heard it was a fun night, so I'm looking forward to watching the show. It's definitely a "CYLL" kinda thing ... the airtimes list on the show's web site has turned out to be woefully inaccurate. (In New York City it's on Channel 13 this Thursday the 18th at 8 pm.) And for some fun, check out the videos on http://www.michellecitrin.com. Even if you're not Jewish they're pretty entertaining. :) - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 12:39:27 -0500 From: morayati@email.unc.edu Subject: Kristin Hersh at the Old Town School of Folk Music, 12/7 (and 50 Foot Wave) I've been putting off writing this for a while, but wow. Opener Daniel Knox was OK, entertaining but not my favorite kind of music. I guess I just don't love jaunty piano ballads about germs - at least, not as much as other musicians. Such as Kristin Hersh. She's currently touring her show The Shady Circle, which is a collection of Appalachian folk ballads - if you've heard her album Murder, Misery, and then Goodnight, it's the same idea. (Between songs: "This one's great because it has poisoning, stabbing, AND drowning!" (paraphrased) The show was amazing. Most of the songs were ones she hadn't previously recorded, and they were wonderful - transfixing, even. After her set she played an encore - songs I remember were "Sno Cat", "Pearl", "Tuesday Night". The last two were the best - Pearl works amazingly well even without a full band, and Tuesday Night is one of my favorite of her solo songs. Everyone there was incredibly friendly, too. Also, 50 Foot Wave is streaming their newest EP, Power + Light, online - - it's one track in several movements: http://50footwave.cashmusic.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:15:27 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: Kristin Hersh at the Old Town School of Folk Music, 12/7 (and 50 Foot Wave) Wait....!!?? You were there?? I was there. I thought you lived in the South.... - ----- Original Message ---- From: "morayati@email.unc.edu" To: ecto@smoe.org Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:39:27 AM Subject: Kristin Hersh at the Old Town School of Folk Music, 12/7 (and 50 Foot Wave) I've been putting off writing this for a while, but wow. Opener Daniel Knox was OK, entertaining but not my favorite kind of music. I guess I just don't love jaunty piano ballads about germs - at least, not as much as other musicians. Such as Kristin Hersh. She's currently touring her show The Shady Circle, which is a collection of Appalachian folk ballads - if you've heard her album Murder, Misery, and then Goodnight, it's the same idea. (Between songs: "This one's great because it has poisoning, stabbing, AND drowning!" (paraphrased) The show was amazing. Most of the songs were ones she hadn't previously recorded, and they were wonderful - transfixing, even. After her set she played an encore - songs I remember were "Sno Cat", "Pearl", "Tuesday Night". The last two were the best - Pearl works amazingly well even without a full band, and Tuesday Night is one of my favorite of her solo songs. Everyone there was incredibly friendly, too. Also, 50 Foot Wave is streaming their newest EP, Power + Light, online - - it's one track in several movements: http://50footwave.cashmusic.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:56:01 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: [Fwd: New York Times Featured Artist of the Week!] >> There's been a lot of buzz on Natalia. I saw her several times two >> years ago and thought she showed promise but was still trying to >> find her voice. I'd be interested to see where she was at now. >> She will be in Albuquerque in March, so maybe I'll get my chance. > > Check her out -- I think she's getting there, for sure. Plus she's > just a generally all around great and fun person worth supporting. :) I might. I always enjoy being the only guy at large lesbian events :) neal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:10:18 -0800 From: cy Subject: Cyoakha Grace O'Manion-art is almost music well, this is a little off subject of ecto-musica but hey, I've been a part of this list for 8 years and all of you have supported my music so I thought I'd let you know about my art also. It's very ecto in that it's magic, outside the mainstream for sure, very dreamy and all about women. I spent the last two years doing faerie photography with real faeries, sprites and pixies, a dream of mine for years (I saw the images). My 09 Faerie Foto calendar is done & printed so beautiful, thick color layered images on black, so nice you can frame them for art. i have almost sold out, (which I did all on my own, every festival this summer and fall that Land of the Blind or Druid Sisters played at I dragged them along and sold them, no publishing company, no distribution). i have only a few left, 8 to be exact. i just lowered the price from $20 to $15 so it's a great Christmas gift for any nature lovers, faerie folk or good photographers. Ecto deal is free shipping. The layers are real, not photoshop (I run real film thru a real camera with random magical results, thanks to the faeries) and they are all real women who believe in magic, no models! I think all this magic helps make this art mean something more than just images. Real women and not "babe art". It has all the moon phases, monthly spells, monthly Celtic faerie facts even recipes. it has all the religious & Pagan holidays as well as a few fun ones too (like National Faerie day, burning man starts).... you can go to faerie fotos on myspace and check out the images or to the faerie page http://www.faeriefotos.com if you don't want to mess with myspace. Ectos I will ship free...just send me a check for $15 & you will get it in the next 3 days! (contact me for my address, I don't want to post it on line!) or you can pay by paypal on the faerie page if you don't do paper. thanks for listening about my art and thanks for supporting my music all these years. have a faerie winter full of ecto music magic! enjoy the Winter Gemini FULL MOON tonight, I'm going to go dance underneath her! have a Merry Solstice too! love and peace, Cyoakha Grace Faerie Fotos Land of the Blind Druid Sisters Tea Party http://www.landoftheblind.com/ ordering BLIND's CDs direct/Gig Listings http://www.myspace.com/landoftheblind samples new CD: Shamans of Sound http://www.faeriefotos.com Cyoakha's new faerie photography calendar 09 http://youtube.com/user/cyo2cyo blind videos, Peace Concert/ & Burning Man ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:06:29 -0800 From: "Bill Mazur" Subject: Congrats KB! It looks like it's official. Kevin Bartlett's "Glow in the Dark" made the 25 Essential Echoes CDs for 2008 list. [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:31:56 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Cyoakha Grace O'Manion-art is almost music Those are really cool Cy! Nice work. I have to admit that I looked twice when I misread your post and saw "The lawyers are all real, not photoshop". Faerie lawyers? Now that would be a really odd project! neal On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:10 PM, cy wrote: > well, this is a little off subject of ecto-musica but hey, I've been > a part of this list for 8 years and all of you have supported my > music so I thought I'd let you know about my art also. It's very ecto > in that it's magic, outside the mainstream for sure, very dreamy and > all about women. > > I spent the last two years doing faerie photography with real > faeries, sprites and pixies, a dream of mine for years (I saw the > images). My 09 Faerie Foto calendar is done & printed so beautiful, > thick color layered images on black, so nice you can frame them for > art. i have almost sold out, (which I did all on my own, every > festival this summer and fall that Land of the Blind or Druid Sisters > played at I dragged them along and sold them, no publishing company, > no distribution). i have only a few left, 8 to be exact. i just > lowered the price from $20 to $15 so it's a great Christmas gift for > any nature lovers, faerie folk or good photographers. Ecto deal is > free shipping. > > The layers are real, not photoshop (I run real film thru a real > camera with random magical results, thanks to the faeries) and they > are all real women who believe in magic, no models! I think all this > magic helps make this art > mean something more than just images. Real women and not "babe art". > > It has all the moon phases, monthly spells, monthly Celtic faerie > facts even recipes. it has all the religious & Pagan holidays as well > as a few fun ones too (like National Faerie day, burning man > starts).... > > you can go to faerie fotos on myspace and check out the images or to > the faerie page http://www.faeriefotos.com > if you don't want to mess with myspace. Ectos I will ship > free...just send me a check for $15 & you will get it in the next 3 > days! (contact me for my address, I don't want to post it on line!) > or you can pay by paypal on the faerie page if you don't do paper. > > thanks for listening about my art and thanks for supporting my music > all these years. > > have a faerie winter full of ecto music magic! > enjoy the Winter Gemini FULL MOON tonight, I'm going to go dance > underneath her! > have a Merry Solstice too! > love and peace, Cyoakha Grace > Faerie Fotos > Land of the Blind > Druid Sisters Tea Party > > > http://www.landoftheblind.com/ ordering BLIND's CDs direct/Gig > Listings > http://www.myspace.com/landoftheblind samples new CD: Shamans of Sound > http://www.faeriefotos.com Cyoakha's new faerie photography calendar > 09 > http://youtube.com/user/cyo2cyo blind videos, Peace Concert/ & > Burning Man ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:52:50 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: Cyoakha Grace O'Manion-art is almost music > Faerie lawyers? Now that would be a really odd project! Take a look at the "Bad-Ass Faeries" books - faerie lawyers. faerie gangsters. faerie bikers. > > neal > > > On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:10 PM, cy wrote: > >> well, this is a little off subject of ecto-musica but hey, I've been >> a part of this list for 8 years and all of you have supported my >> music so I thought I'd let you know about my art also. It's very ecto >> in that it's magic, outside the mainstream for sure, very dreamy and >> all about women. >> >> I spent the last two years doing faerie photography with real >> faeries, sprites and pixies, a dream of mine for years (I saw the >> images). My 09 Faerie Foto calendar is done & printed so beautiful, >> thick color layered images on black, so nice you can frame them for >> art. i have almost sold out, (which I did all on my own, every >> festival this summer and fall that Land of the Blind or Druid Sisters >> played at I dragged them along and sold them, no publishing company, >> no distribution). i have only a few left, 8 to be exact. i just >> lowered the price from $20 to $15 so it's a great Christmas gift for >> any nature lovers, faerie folk or good photographers. Ecto deal is >> free shipping. >> >> The layers are real, not photoshop (I run real film thru a real >> camera with random magical results, thanks to the faeries) and they >> are all real women who believe in magic, no models! I think all this >> magic helps make this art >> mean something more than just images. Real women and not "babe art". >> >> It has all the moon phases, monthly spells, monthly Celtic faerie >> facts even recipes. it has all the religious & Pagan holidays as well >> as a few fun ones too (like National Faerie day, burning man starts).... >> >> you can go to faerie fotos on myspace and check out the images or to >> the faerie page http://www.faeriefotos.com >> if you don't want to mess with myspace. Ectos I will ship >> free...just send me a check for $15 & you will get it in the next 3 >> days! (contact me for my address, I don't want to post it on line!) >> or you can pay by paypal on the faerie page if you don't do paper. >> >> thanks for listening about my art and thanks for supporting my music >> all these years. >> >> have a faerie winter full of ecto music magic! >> enjoy the Winter Gemini FULL MOON tonight, I'm going to go dance >> underneath her! >> have a Merry Solstice too! >> love and peace, Cyoakha Grace >> Faerie Fotos >> Land of the Blind >> Druid Sisters Tea Party >> >> >> http://www.landoftheblind.com/ ordering BLIND's CDs direct/Gig Listings >> http://www.myspace.com/landoftheblind samples new CD: Shamans of Sound >> http://www.faeriefotos.com Cyoakha's new faerie photography calendar 09 >> http://youtube.com/user/cyo2cyo blind videos, Peace Concert/ & Burning Man - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. http://www.kappamaki.com/ http://brni.livejournal.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:05:06 -0500 From: morayati@email.unc.edu Subject: Re: Kristin Hersh at the Old Town School of Folk Music, 12/7 (and 50 Foot Wave) I flew up for the concert. I'm just glad it was that weekend and not the one before, where 50 O'Hare flights were canceled. Quoting Tim Jones-Yelvington : > Wait....!!?? You were there?? I was there. > > I thought you lived in the South.... > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "morayati@email.unc.edu" > To: ecto@smoe.org > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:39:27 AM > Subject: Kristin Hersh at the Old Town School of Folk Music, 12/7 > (and 50 Foot Wave) > > I've been putting off writing this for a while, but wow. > > Opener Daniel Knox was OK, entertaining but not my favorite kind of > music. I guess I just don't love jaunty piano ballads about germs - at > least, not as much as other musicians. Such as Kristin Hersh. > > She's currently touring her show The Shady Circle, which is a > collection of Appalachian folk ballads - if you've heard her album > Murder, Misery, and then Goodnight, it's the same idea. (Between songs: > "This one's great because it has poisoning, stabbing, AND drowning!" > (paraphrased) > > The show was amazing. Most of the songs were ones she hadn't previously > recorded, and they were wonderful - transfixing, even. After her set > she played an encore - songs I remember were "Sno Cat", "Pearl", > "Tuesday Night". The last two were the best - Pearl works amazingly > well even without a full band, and Tuesday Night is one of my favorite > of her solo songs. Everyone there was incredibly friendly, too. > > Also, 50 Foot Wave is streaming their newest EP, Power + Light, online > - it's one track in several movements: > > http://50footwave.cashmusic.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:43:01 -0500 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: Re: Cyoakha Grace O'Manion-art is almost music Karaj geamikoj! From Cyo's recent note: > I spent the last two years doing faerie photography with real > faeries, sprites and pixies, a dream of mine for years (I saw the > images). My 09 Faerie Foto calendar is done & printed so beautiful, > thick color layered images on black, so nice you can frame them for > art... I have only a few left, 8 to be exact. I just > lowered the price from $20 to $15 so it's a great Christmas gift for > any nature lovers, faerie folk or good photographers. Ecto deal is > free shipping. > Let me add my endorsement of this great calendar, and urge those of you with the change to scarf the last ones while you still can. I've been following Cyo's faerie work on MySpace closely, so I can testify to how far her art has come. You won't regret owning this one (and you might be willing to keep it long after 2009 has passed away). Just one warning: You might be tempted to buy, say, a Lomo or Holga camera and go on some wild multiple-exposure experiments yourself! Philip David (who has this Holga in his drawers and is thinking of getting some film soon and going at it anew... actually he should hit lomography.com and buy a flash attachment and/or strobe accessory first) 2008.12.12-13 n.p.: silence later this weekend: _Dragon Dreams_ by Issa (got my copy today - signed, to boot!) - --- Philip David Morgan La studio Konstelacio, k.t.p. 287 Cambon Avenue Saint James, New York/Novjorkio 11780-2518 United States/Usono Voice: 1-631-584-7622 http://konstelacio.ipernity.com/ http://konstelacio.googlepages.com/ http://whackaflick.blogspot.com/ "You Gotta Say Yes to the End of Excess" "Parolu 'jes' al la fino d'eksces' " ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #681 ***************************