From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #652 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, November 11 2008 Volume 13 : Number 652 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friends... [Mike Matthews ] RIP Miriam Makeba [Adam Kimmel ] Re: bulk CD storage ["Anna Creech" ] Re: ecto-wiki: tori ["Anna Creech" ] Miriam Makeba passes away [neal copperman ] Re: bulk CD storage [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] Re: bulk CD storage [phclark ] Re: bulk CD storage ["Jon Wesley Huff" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:00:03 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ***************** Rachel Kramer Bussel (no Email address) ***************** ******************* Neb Rodgers (clam_nebula@yahoo.com) ******************* *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Rachel Kramer Bussel Mon November 10 1975 Scorpio Neb Rodgers Tue November 10 1959 Space Available - Inquire Within Ken Latta Sun November 11 1951 Scorpio Craig Gidney November 11 Scorpio Michael Doyle Wed November 12 1969 Scorpio Jenny Bruce Mon November 14 1966 fire-horse scorpio Dave Cook Mon November 15 1971 Scorpio Jeff Pearce November 16 Orpheus Naama Avramzon Mon November 18 1974 Scorpio Jeff Smith Mon November 19 1962 Crash Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio Sun - Capricorn Moon - Virgo Ascent Claudia Spix Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze Anja Baldo Tue November 23 1965 Garbanzo Tommy Persson Wed November 25 1964 Sagittarius Pat Tessitore November 26 Sagittarius Valerie Kraemer November 26 Sagittarius Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Sue Trowbridge Sun November 27 1966 Skytten Ward Kadel Tue November 29 1977 Sagittarius Jesse Hernandez Liwag Wed November 29 1972 Water Rat Mirko Bulaja Sat November 30 1974 Block Juha Sorva Thu December 02 1976 Sagittarius Chip Lueck Thu December 05 1968 Sagittarius Lenore December 05 sagi Michele Wellck December 08 Sagittarius - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:52:09 -0800 From: Adam Kimmel Subject: RIP Miriam Makeba http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/world/africa /11makeba.html?_r=1&ref=obituaries&oref=slogin Adam K ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:48:32 -0500 From: "Anna Creech" Subject: Re: bulk CD storage Technically, you are supposed to delete or destroy any copies you may have when you sell a CD, so I wouldn't advocate for ripping & selling. However, you could plan to use the $$ you get from selling the CDs to buy downloads of the songs you want to keep (plus, you get to support the artist, which is always awesome). I was looking into some storage systems a few years ago, and one thing I wanted to make sure was that the system accounted for the back tray card. You may not think you want it now, but if you ever go back to using cases or if you want to sell/trade your CDs in the future, you'll get a better deal if it's the whole package. The other thing to consider is sleeve rash. Make sure that whatever system you get includes padded sleeves so that the CD isn't rubbing against the plastic as you remove and replace it. Finally, if your collection is constantly in flux with additions or deletions, you'll want a system that allows for reorganizing with little hassle. In the CD case world, this is one of the things that drives me crazy - - slots for the cases may look nice, but it's a pain to shift everything to add a new disc. I know I found a system that does all of that, but it was going to cost several hundred dollars to do it, so I decided to keep the jewel cases for now. If I remember the name of the company, I'll be sure to pass it along to you. On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Gregory Bossert wrote: > (well, i may rip and sell some that i haven't listened to in a decade or > so...!) > > anyone have recommendations, opinions, good or bad experiences? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:50:49 -0500 From: "Anna Creech" Subject: Re: ecto-wiki: tori For me, the convenience of shopping locally is that I get that instant gratification. If they have to order something for me, I'd rather just do it myself because I usually can get it online for less $$ and it arrives just as quickly, if not faster. Anna On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Bernie Mojzes wrote: > I'm lucky. I have a local used/new independant record store (yes, they do > vinyl too) that'll order me anything that their distributers carry. I figure > these are the folks who kept us in interesting music for decades, I can > defer gratification for an extra day or two to support them now. > > brni ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:26:35 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Miriam Makeba passes away Sad news. At least she died right after a concert, which I'm sure she would have wanted. http://worldmusiccentral.org/article.php/miriam_makeba_dies_2008 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/world/africa/11makeba.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs_CxmMMpW4 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:30:47 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: bulk CD storage "Finally, if your collection is constantly in flux with additions or deletions, you'll want a system that allows for reorganizing with little hassle. In the CD case world, this is one of the things that drives me crazy - - slots for the cases may look nice, but it's a pain to shift everything to add a new disc." ....this is a HUGE problem. A while back, I started moving some of my less favored discs into binders and getting rid of the jewel cases b/c of space issues in my apartment, and because of the organization issue, they've gradually become inaccessible. I switched to an enormous ipod (160 gig) this summer, so I'm now ripping all these discs in the hopes that it'll make them easier to listen to at least occasionally. - --- On Mon, 11/10/08, Anna Creech wrote: > From: Anna Creech > Subject: Re: bulk CD storage > To: ecto@smoe.org > Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 8:48 AM > Technically, you are supposed to delete or destroy any > copies you may have > when you sell a CD, so I wouldn't advocate for ripping > & selling. However, > you could plan to use the $$ you get from selling the CDs > to buy downloads > of the songs you want to keep (plus, you get to support the > artist, which is > always awesome). > > I was looking into some storage systems a few years ago, > and one thing I > wanted to make sure was that the system accounted for the > back tray card. > You may not think you want it now, but if you ever go back > to using cases or > if you want to sell/trade your CDs in the future, > you'll get a better deal > if it's the whole package. > > The other thing to consider is sleeve rash. Make sure that > whatever system > you get includes padded sleeves so that the CD isn't > rubbing against the > plastic as you remove and replace it. > > Finally, if your collection is constantly in flux with > additions or > deletions, you'll want a system that allows for > reorganizing with little > hassle. In the CD case world, this is one of the things > that drives me crazy > - slots for the cases may look nice, but it's a pain to > shift everything to > add a new disc. > > I know I found a system that does all of that, but it was > going to cost > several hundred dollars to do it, so I decided to keep the > jewel cases for > now. If I remember the name of the company, I'll be > sure to pass it along to > you. > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Gregory Bossert > wrote: > > > (well, i may rip and sell some that i haven't > listened to in a decade or > > so...!) > > > > anyone have recommendations, opinions, good or bad > experiences? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:38:12 -0700 From: phclark Subject: Re: bulk CD storage I made the transition a few years ago. I went to individual sleeves (two pockets) which approximately triples the number that can stored in the same linear shelf space. Two drawbacks: you can't read the spines any more and the plastic is very slick, they're very difficult to stack. Pluses, apart from the gained space? You need to keep them organized in whatever insane system works for you, or you'll never find anything again. BTW, I've got ~3k, too. My guess is that putting 3k into binders would require another room to store them. YMMV. I'm actually in the process of putting them all on a terabyte hard drive. There's stuff I haven't listened to in years, just because it's too hard to look for them physically and my attention span is short. Peter Clark -=High Performance Analogue=- www.redpoint-audio-design.com Gregory Bossert wrote: >this topic seems to come up once a year or so. i love having my CDs >out in jewel cases, so folks can browse through them. but, i am >really short of space these days, and the CDs are wedged into corners >in my music studio where it's impossible to browse anyway. so, i am >thinking of moving them into binders. (well, i may rip and sell some >that i haven't listened to in a decade or so...!) > >even if i get rid of some, and not counting the box sets or cool >packaging, i'm going to have around 3000 to store. that's going to >add up, so i'd like to choose wisely. > >Case Logic used to be my first choice in such things. but, i've been >reading on Amazon and the Case Logic site itself, and their latest >models are getting mixed reviews. apparently, they've moved from >three-ring binders to a cheesy plastic systems that requires all pages >to be removed when rearranging or inserting pages. and the cases >themselves are apparently less sturdy than in the past. > >another plan would be to buy sleeves -- Case Logic still sells three >ring binder sleeves -- and look for binders elsewhere. > >anyone have recommendations, opinions, good or bad experiences? > >thanks! >-g > >n.p. Altan, "Another Sky" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:00:47 -0600 From: "Jon Wesley Huff" Subject: Re: bulk CD storage I was in a similar bind. There just doesn't seem to be any great solution. I had thought about getting the metal cases that have hanging sleeves in them but I do think now I'm just ripping everything and keeping my physical CD's in storage as part of a backup. I got a external drive just for this reason. I too have had CD's in storage for over a year and a half because I no longer had a good solution for them in my new apartment. On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 9:38 PM, phclark wrote: > I made the transition a few years ago. I went to individual sleeves (two > pockets) which approximately triples the number that can stored in the same > linear shelf space. Two drawbacks: you can't read the spines any more and > the plastic is very slick, they're very difficult to stack. Pluses, apart > from the gained space? You need to keep them organized in whatever insane > system works for you, or you'll never find anything again. BTW, I've got > ~3k, too. My guess is that putting 3k into binders would require another > room to store them. YMMV. > I'm actually in the process of putting them all on a terabyte hard drive. > There's stuff I haven't listened to in years, just because it's too hard to > look for them physically and my attention span is short. > > > > Peter Clark > > -=High Performance Analogue=- > > www.redpoint-audio-design.com > > > > > Gregory Bossert wrote: > >> this topic seems to come up once a year or so. i love having my CDs out >> in jewel cases, so folks can browse through them. but, i am really short of >> space these days, and the CDs are wedged into corners in my music studio >> where it's impossible to browse anyway. so, i am thinking of moving them >> into binders. (well, i may rip and sell some that i haven't listened to in >> a decade or so...!) >> >> even if i get rid of some, and not counting the box sets or cool >> packaging, i'm going to have around 3000 to store. that's going to add up, >> so i'd like to choose wisely. >> >> Case Logic used to be my first choice in such things. but, i've been >> reading on Amazon and the Case Logic site itself, and their latest models >> are getting mixed reviews. apparently, they've moved from three-ring >> binders to a cheesy plastic systems that requires all pages to be removed >> when rearranging or inserting pages. and the cases themselves are >> apparently less sturdy than in the past. >> >> another plan would be to buy sleeves -- Case Logic still sells three ring >> binder sleeves -- and look for binders elsewhere. >> >> anyone have recommendations, opinions, good or bad experiences? >> >> thanks! >> -g >> >> n.p. Altan, "Another Sky" ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #652 ***************************