From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #596 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, September 7 2008 Volume 13 : Number 596 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] where would ecto fit i wonder? [=?iso-8859-1?Q?anna_maria_stj=E4rnell?= <] Re: where would ecto fit i wonder? [Bernie Mojzes ] Together in the Shady Circle [ontario moe ] Re: Together in the Shady Circle [birdie ] Attention SF peeps: ecto goodness on the 21st [meredith ] Hey Meredith! Isn't your birthday around NOW? [birdie ] Re: Profanity mix (aka Lenny Bruce week) [Mike Connell ] Re: Attention SF peeps: ecto goodness on the 21st ["robert bristow-johnso] Re: Attention SF peeps: ecto goodness on the 21st [Damon Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************* Richard Dean (no Email address) ********************* *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Richard Dean Wed September 06 1967 Virgo Jason Gordon Tue September 07 1976 monkey collector David Blank-Edelman Sat September 09 1967 Neon Holly Tominack Thu September 10 1970 Virgo Sharon Nichols Wed September 11 1963 Sic Luceat Lux Heather Russell September 11 Total Virgosity Karron Lynn Lane Tue September 14 1751 Ophelia Virgo Troy Wollenslegel Mon September 18 1972 Virgo Mark Frabotta Sun September 19 1965 Don't even THINK about parking here Joe Zitt Sat September 20 1958 Will Hack for CDs Ani DiFranco Wed September 23 1970 Virgo Lord Tyr Mon September 24 1979 Libran Paul Kim Sat October 01 1977 fetal position JoAnn Whetsell Fri October 01 1976 Pendulum Ella McCrystle Tue October 03 1967 Libra William Gill Wed October 05 1960 A wide-eyed wanderer Birdie Breeze Mon October 05 1959 OooOoooWheeee - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 06:10:52 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?anna_maria_stj=E4rnell?= Subject: where would ecto fit i wonder? hi.. Amanda wrote.. "Musical tastes and personality type are closely related, according to a study of more than 36,000 people from around the world. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/7598549.stm Fair enough that ecto isn't mentioned as it isn't widely known (though it should be!!), but where's world or groove? I wouldn't put world in the same boat as bollywood! So what do we think the average ecto type is? :-) Amanda" Ehh..this is a very narrow view of music fans..most ectos would listen to more than one style of music.. and ecto itself is a mix of styles. So are other musical styles of course, but it's espically true for ecto.. and where is prog rock,goth/darkwave and like you said world? Why are indie fans not gentle according to this? But the basic ecto must be creative, hardworking and attractive, that goes without saying. anna maria ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 10:36:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: where would ecto fit i wonder? Heh. Those of us who like blues, jazz, classical, experimental, ecto, goth, rock, prog, electronic, space, punk, indie, world, new wave and diamanda galas must really be confused. brni (i think) while extremely confused, you said: > hi.. > Amanda wrote.. > "Musical tastes and personality type are closely related, according to a > study of more than 36,000 people from around the world. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/7598549.stm > > Fair enough that ecto isn't mentioned as it isn't widely known (though it > should be!!), but where's world or groove? > > I wouldn't put world in the same boat as bollywood! > > So what do we think the average ecto type is? :-) > > Amanda" > > Ehh..this is a very narrow view of music fans..most ectos would listen to more than one style of music.. and ecto itself is a mix of styles. So are other musical styles of course, but it's espically true for ecto.. > and where is prog rock,goth/darkwave and like you said world? > Why are indie fans not gentle according to this? > But the basic ecto must be creative, hardworking and attractive, that goes without saying. > anna maria > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. http://brni.livejournal.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:11:36 -0400 From: ontario moe Subject: Together in the Shady Circle kristin hersh. in your living room. think about it. we are. woj - ----- Forwarded message from Kristin Hersh ----- Hi Pals, People often ask us why we never play in their town and we have to answer, " 'Cause we weren't invited!". Then they say, "I'm inviting you!", at which point we find ourselves wishing it were that simple. Promoters need to make offers, venues have to be available and willing to open a date, and calculations need to be made by others to evaluate profit-potential and risk. In other words, "ready and willing to play" doesn't always do it. While it will probably never be as simple as "your wish is our command", we'd like to see things things head in that direction. The power structure in the live music business is just as influenced by "gatekeepers" as it is in recorded music. We have a problem with this. Again, the CASH way of doing things is our answer. Finding ways to distribute the power and responsibility among all "stakeholders", sharing ideas and decision-making with the listener/audience is once more the answer. This time though, in the area of live performance. Kristin's new project, "The Shady Circle" is all about people. The traditional music that is the core of this show only lives today because people carried it from town to town and through generations. It was music created in and meant for living rooms and front porches. It is the kind of music that Lawrence Lessig has spoken about in talks like as this one: Lessig Talk Every year we find it harder and harder to afford to play for people who want to hear the music. Now, with the high price of fuel and low guarantees from clubs, the situation is coming to a head. We at CASH are all about sustainability in music because unsustainability is unacceptable. Good music must happen to people. We're formally introducing "The Shady Circle" -- an old idea that worked then and should work now, bringing music and performance directly to people's homes. To provide a close-up, hi-res view of the music as it's played for people in small groups. When this happens, when people experience "music in the room" with them -- when music fills the space between people, like water in a swimming pool -- we believe it will underscore just how important and powerful music can be. Songs are for people. We'll take songs from town to town, house to house -- making special evenings happen for small gatherings. House concerts, for groups of at least 20 or so, throughout the country, throughout the year, regardless of release and promo schedules, presented by musical ambassadors to their own communities. Events not driven by beer sales and late nights, but rather by the sharing of music between friends and families, children and adults, people familiar with Kristin and those not yet aware of her. And we think these traditional songs are a great way to introduce new folks to KH. So this is a solicitation. You're invited to submit inquiries and ideas for your own "Shady Circle" performance, in your house or hall. We'll help guide the process, collaborating with you to ensure a successful night for all of us. Every performance will be recorded simply -- and these recordings will be your property, to be used as you see fit. They can be licensed via Creative Commons and re-posted and distributed on the Internet, they may be burned as CDs and shared or even sold. Up to you. CASH Music will provide support for "The Shady Circle" as well -- allowing people to share info, post photos, recordings, etc. More on that soon. This is only the beginning of a grass roots effort that we'd like to see grow over the years -- a way for you to bring Kristin to your friends, family and neighbors, a way to empower the most enthusiastic supporters of Kristin's art who have been looking for ways to get involved -- the center of a new spiral. Interested folks should contact us here: kristinhersh@cashmusic.org Your proposals will be paid immediate attention and we'll begin scheduling a North American calendar, ASAP. Dates will be scheduled according to routing and availability to minimize expenses. Where expense is not an issue, our availability is much more fluid. Please note: We'll be building a calendar in North America first, but would like to offer shows in other territories eventually. To acquaint yourself with the world of house concerts check out the following helpful links: Wikipedia HouseConcerts.com Lots of love, Billy + Kristin - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:48:11 -0700 From: birdie Subject: Re: Together in the Shady Circle Right ON! So happy to see someone has has a perfectly brill way of picking up the torch and moving ahead with it!!! I want to make sure they have the gas price map - as for booking tours, it realllllly makes complete sense to FOLLOW it and design tours around it. The entire west coast has the highest gas in the country (outside of Hawaii) - and a tour route that starts in say, B.C and comes down to San Diego, should have house concerts dotting the way - I realise most people like to take the 5, for speed, but on the 101 from Portland to SF are alot of very very cool places to play - like Crescent City, Arcata, Gaberville, Willits, Ukiah (or fort bragg/mendocino) and then the wine country... Certainly there are WINERIES that will present concerts??? How cool could that be, outdoors - at a winery? Or, in Hotels like Hotel Healdsburg? Most often, everybody totally bypasses this whole area and goes from medford on the 5 to LA....never mind all the above, plus the central coast (Santa Cruz, Big Sur, Santa Barbara, etc) In short - some of the very coolest places get bypassed. YES, gas can be really high along the coast - as it all has to be trucked in...but, I'd think house concerts could at least cover a tank of gas and food/lodging... exactly. Enough to get peeps to the next big city or town. Cheers Birdie ontario moe wrote: >kristin hersh. in your living room. think about it. we are. > >woj > >----- Forwarded message from Kristin Hersh ----- > >Hi Pals, > >People often ask us why we never play in their town and we have to >answer, " 'Cause we weren't invited!". Then they say, "I'm inviting >you!", at which point we find ourselves wishing it were that simple. > >Promoters need to make offers, venues have to be available and >willing to open a date, and calculations need to be made by others to >evaluate profit-potential and risk. In other words, "ready and willing >to play" doesn't always do it. > >While it will probably never be as simple as "your wish is our >command", we'd like to see things things head in that direction. The >power structure in the live music business is just as influenced by >"gatekeepers" as it is in recorded music. We have a problem with this. > >Again, the CASH way of doing things is our answer. Finding ways to >distribute the power and responsibility among all "stakeholders", >sharing ideas and decision-making with the listener/audience is once >more the answer. This time though, in the area of live performance. > >Kristin's new project, "The Shady Circle" is all about people. The >traditional music that is the core of this show only lives today >because people carried it from town to town and through generations. >It was music created in and meant for living rooms and front porches. >It is the kind of music that Lawrence Lessig has spoken about in talks >like as this one: > >Lessig Talk > > >Every year we find it harder and harder to afford to play for people >who want to hear the music. Now, with the high price of fuel and low >guarantees from clubs, the situation is coming to a head. We at CASH >are all about sustainability in music because unsustainability is >unacceptable. Good music must happen to people. > >We're formally introducing "The Shady Circle" -- an old idea that >worked then and should work now, bringing music and performance >directly to people's homes. To provide a close-up, hi-res view of the >music as it's played for people in small groups. When this happens, >when people experience "music in the room" with them -- when music >fills the space between people, like water in a swimming pool -- we >believe it will underscore just how important and powerful music can >be. > >Songs are for people. We'll take songs from town to town, house to >house -- making special evenings happen for small gatherings. House >concerts, for groups of at least 20 or so, throughout the country, >throughout the year, regardless of release and promo schedules, >presented by musical ambassadors to their own communities. Events not >driven by beer sales and late nights, but rather by the sharing of >music between friends and families, children and adults, people >familiar with Kristin and those not yet aware of her. And we think >these traditional songs are a great way to introduce new folks to KH. > >So this is a solicitation. You're invited to submit inquiries and >ideas for your own "Shady Circle" performance, in your house or hall. >We'll help guide the process, collaborating with you to ensure a >successful night for all of us. > >Every performance will be recorded simply -- and these recordings >will be your property, to be used as you see fit. They can be licensed >via Creative Commons and re-posted and distributed on the Internet, >they may be burned as CDs and shared or even sold. Up to you. CASH >Music will provide support for "The Shady Circle" as well -- allowing >people to share info, post photos, recordings, etc. More on that soon. > >This is only the beginning of a grass roots effort that we'd like to >see grow over the years -- a way for you to bring Kristin to your >friends, family and neighbors, a way to empower the most enthusiastic >supporters of Kristin's art who have been looking for ways to get >involved -- the center of a new spiral. > >Interested folks should contact us here: > >kristinhersh@cashmusic.org > >Your proposals will be paid immediate attention and we'll begin >scheduling a North American calendar, ASAP. Dates will be scheduled >according to routing and availability to minimize expenses. Where >expense is not an issue, our availability is much more fluid. > >Please note: We'll be building a calendar in North America first, but >would like to offer shows in other territories eventually. > >To acquaint yourself with the world of house concerts check out the >following helpful links: > >Wikipedia > >HouseConcerts.com > > > >Lots of love, > >Billy + Kristin > >----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:08:49 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Attention SF peeps: ecto goodness on the 21st Hi, Heads up on an ectolicious show happening in San Francisco at the Hotel Utah on Sunday, September 21: both Rachael Sage and Emily Bezar will be performing. Rachael will have the always ecto-legendary Dean Sharp with her on drums, and Emily will be accompanied by the amazing violinist Alan Lin (who has played quite a lot with Vienna Teng and Noe Venable, among others) as well as guitarist Erik Pearson. It's going to be a stunningly ecto-rific night. Hope to see all you Bay Area folk (but ARGH, Jessica!!! :/). p.s. Info on Rachael's shows in Seattle, Portland, and L.A. here: http://www.rachaelsage.com/shows ... hope to see all the ecto folk in those towns as well!! - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:20:23 -0700 From: birdie Subject: Hey Meredith! Isn't your birthday around NOW? Hope it was a goodie if I missed it and see you soon in LA! CHEERS :-) Birdie meredith wrote: > Hi, > > Heads up on an ectolicious show happening in San Francisco at the > Hotel Utah on Sunday, September 21: both Rachael Sage and Emily Bezar > will be performing. > > Rachael will have the always ecto-legendary Dean Sharp with her on > drums, and Emily will be accompanied by the amazing violinist Alan Lin > (who has played quite a lot with Vienna Teng and Noe Venable, among > others) as well as guitarist Erik Pearson. > > It's going to be a stunningly ecto-rific night. Hope to see all you > Bay Area folk (but ARGH, Jessica!!! :/). > > > p.s. Info on Rachael's shows in Seattle, Portland, and L.A. here: > http://www.rachaelsage.com/shows ... hope to see all the ecto folk in > those towns as well!! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 18:23:06 -0400 From: "Richard Messum" Subject: Re: Together in the Shady Circle It would be a bit crowded in my living room, what with all of the computers, CD towers, LPs, stacks of magazines and everything all over the place and the cat into everything. But if she wishes to perform here, i will make the space, somehow :o) Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: ontario moe To: this collective heart Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 4:11 PM Subject: Together in the Shady Circle kristin hersh. in your living room. think about it. we are. woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:56:46 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: Profanity mix (aka Lenny Bruce week) The list member formerly known as Horter wrote: >Reminds me of a Catherine Wheel fave...Eat My Dust (You Insensitive Fuck). >Shoegazy ecto in a profanity mix? Yeah, sounds right to me. Funny how some things work out. I work at a high falutin defense contractor that has a super-sensitive internet Big Brother complex of late with innocent emails getting nailed as spam etc etc, and for no reason at all last Friday I unsubbed my work e-addy from Ecto before I left for the day. I am glad now that I did because with all the non-*'d words like '"fuck", "ass" etc here the past week (not that it has been that bad, it hasn't), they probably would have taken me in the back room and had me in front of the bright lights begging for mercy. Mike P.S. The filters are so bad there, I actually had an email blocked I was sending someone about the movie "Damn Yankees". I'm serious. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 23:25:57 -0400 From: "robert bristow-johnson" Subject: Re: Attention SF peeps: ecto goodness on the 21st > ----- Original Message ----- > From: meredith > To: ecto > Subject: Attention SF peeps: ecto goodness on the 21st > Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:08:49 -0400 > > > Hi, > > Heads up on an ectolicious show happening in San Francisco at the Hotel Utah > on Sunday, September 21: both Rachael Sage and Emily Bezar will be performing. > > Rachael will have the always ecto-legendary Dean Sharp with her on drums, and > Emily will be accompanied by the amazing violinist Alan Lin (who has played > quite a lot with Vienna Teng and Noe Venable, among others) as well as > guitarist Erik Pearson. > > It's going to be a stunningly ecto-rific night. Hope to see all you Bay Area > folk (but ARGH, Jessica!!! :/). it's unfortunate missed timing for me. i'll be there the first week of October. any ecto-rific shows in SF (or within reach of MUNI or BART) that week? :-( - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 22:41:42 -0700 From: Damon Subject: Re: Attention SF peeps: ecto goodness on the 21st awww man... and here i am with my san francisco itinerary, which lasts from the 12th through the 16th! so tempting to extend my visit just a little bit... so not feasible... augh! - -damon On 06 Sep, meredith wrote: > Hi, > > Heads up on an ectolicious show happening in San Francisco at the Hotel > Utah on Sunday, September 21: both Rachael Sage and Emily Bezar will be > performing. [...] - -- dl+ecto@usrbin.ca: protecting my real address since 2002 (too late!) > EWS starts here! < http://www.last.fm/user/kalaleq/ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #596 ***************************