From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #592 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, September 3 2008 Volume 13 : Number 592 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Profanity mix [Adam Kimmel ] Re: Profanity mix ["Aly-Neil Fields" ] Re: Profanity mix [Timothy Jones-Yelvington ] Re: Profanity mix [Gregory Bossert ] Re: Profanity mix [colford@chlotrudis.org] Re: Profanity mix ["Jeffrey Burka" ] Re: Profanity Mix [Michael Pearce ] Re: Profanity mix ["Aly-Neil Fields" ] Re: Profanity Mix ["Aly-Neil Fields" ] Re: Profanity Mix [morayati@email.unc.edu] profanity [=?iso-8859-1?Q?anna_maria_stj=E4rnell?= ] RE: profanity [JoAnn Whetsell ] RE: profanity [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] Re: Profanity Mix [Steve VanDevender ] Re: Profanity Mix [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] Re: Profanity Mix [ontario moe ] Re: Profanity Mix [Gregory Bossert ] Re: Profanity mix [Gregory Bossert ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:19:50 -0800 From: Adam Kimmel Subject: Profanity mix "Flower" by Liz Phair. Probably one of the filthiest songs I know. Although, admittedly, I don't get out much. Crikey, I remember getting a thrill from hearing Elton John sing the word "shit" in "Your Sister Don't Twist But She Can Rock and Roll". Mind you, I also remember my local radio station (WDRC, I think) bleeping out the word "crap" in Paul Simon's "Kodachrome". Adam K. ____________________________________________________________ FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and family! Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:07:06 -0400 From: "Aly-Neil Fields" Subject: Re: Profanity mix I have Exile in Guyville sitting right next to me! I was going to suggest a song from it, but you definitely got me beat out in terms of timing and... filth. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Adam Kimmel wrote: > "Flower" by Liz Phair. Probably one of the filthiest songs I know. > > Although, admittedly, I don't get out much. > > Crikey, I remember getting a thrill from hearing Elton John sing the word > "shit" in "Your Sister Don't Twist But She Can Rock and Roll". > > Mind you, I also remember my local radio station (WDRC, I think) bleeping > out the word "crap" in Paul Simon's "Kodachrome". > > Adam K. > > ____________________________________________________________ > FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and > family! > Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! > - -- NP: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:22:52 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: Profanity mix Untouchable Face - Ani DiFranco You Bloody Motherfucking Asshole - Martha Wainwright And there's one by Damien Rice on his second album. Forget tht title. On 9/2/08 7:07 AM, "Aly-Neil Fields" wrote: > I have Exile in Guyville sitting right next to me! I was going to suggest a > song from it, but you definitely got me beat out in terms of timing and... > filth. > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 4:19 AM, Adam Kimmel wrote: > >> "Flower" by Liz Phair. Probably one of the filthiest songs I know. >> >> Although, admittedly, I don't get out much. >> >> Crikey, I remember getting a thrill from hearing Elton John sing the word >> "shit" in "Your Sister Don't Twist But She Can Rock and Roll". >> >> Mind you, I also remember my local radio station (WDRC, I think) bleeping >> out the word "crap" in Paul Simon's "Kodachrome". >> >> Adam K. >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> FREE ONLINE PHOTOSHARING - Share your photos online with your friends and >> family! >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/photosharing to find out more! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 05:36:25 -0700 From: Gregory Bossert Subject: Re: Profanity mix i hereby submit The Pretenders and "Precious", with its bunker- busting tactical delivery of the f-bomb. - -g - -- www.suddensound.com -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:56:11 -0600 (MDT) From: colford@chlotrudis.org Subject: Re: Profanity mix >> "Flower" by Liz Phair. Probably one of the filthiest songs I know. And of course, there's "Fuck and Run", also by Liz. A couple of lesser known f-bombs appear in Martha & the Muffins, "What People Do for Fun," off the amazing Danseparc album, and Aimee Mann's I'm With Stupid album opener, "Longshot." Michael C. n.p. Bic Runga - Birds n.r. A Lion Among Men by Gregory Maguire ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:18:44 -0400 From: "Jeffrey Burka" Subject: Re: Profanity mix Michael points out: > Aimee Mann's I'm With Stupid album opener, "Longshot." I was at an Aimee Mann show at the birchmere at which her parents and brother were present. She apologized profusely before playing that, insisting that she hadn't learned such language at home. It was fairly amusing. (I'm trying to remember if that was the '93 I went to with a bunch of ectophile, including Damon and Neal) Meanwhile, it's hard to imagine a compilation like this without some version of the song "Sodomy." I've got two of 'em, one by the Fits (yay, veda!) and another by Me First and the Gimme Gimmes. No idea who originally performed it (and, uh, not something I'm willing to google from work...) jeff n.p. _Highways_, Lanterna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:51:28 -0700 From: Michael Pearce Subject: Re: Profanity Mix I would also like to add "Straight Outa Compton" as covered by Nina Gordon. (I can send it to you if you can't find it.) Michael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:04:48 -0400 From: "Aly-Neil Fields" Subject: Re: Profanity mix That is adorable re: Aimee's family, hahahaha. Also, re: Michael's mention of "What People Do For Fun" - you know, I hadn't noticed that! Then again, I don't listen to Danseparc as often as, say, This is the Ice Age. I will look out for that. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Jeffrey Burka wrote: > Michael points out: > > > Aimee Mann's I'm With Stupid album opener, "Longshot." > > I was at an Aimee Mann show at the birchmere at which her parents and > brother were present. She apologized profusely before playing that, > insisting that she hadn't learned such language at home. It was > fairly amusing. > > (I'm trying to remember if that was the '93 I went to with a bunch of > ectophile, including Damon and Neal) > > Meanwhile, it's hard to imagine a compilation like this without some > version of the song "Sodomy." I've got two of 'em, one by the Fits > (yay, veda!) and another by Me First and the Gimme Gimmes. No idea > who originally performed it (and, uh, not something I'm willing to > google from work...) > > jeff > n.p. _Highways_, Lanterna > - -- NP: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:07:14 -0400 From: "Aly-Neil Fields" Subject: Re: Profanity Mix Ace pick, one of my favorites. On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Michael Pearce wrote: > I would also like to add "Straight Outa Compton" as covered by Nina Gordon. > (I can send it to you if you can't find it.) > > Michael > - -- NP: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:12:27 -0400 From: morayati@email.unc.edu Subject: Re: Profanity Mix Needs some 50 Foot Wave. I suggest "Clara Bow," for sheer drawn-out hforce of profanity. Or "Pneuma." Quoting Aly-Neil Fields : > Ace pick, one of my favorites. > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Michael Pearce wrote: > >> I would also like to add "Straight Outa Compton" as covered by Nina Gordon. >> (I can send it to you if you can't find it.) >> >> Michael >> > > > > -- > NP: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:13:27 -0700 (PDT) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?anna_maria_stj=E4rnell?= Subject: profanity hi. a profanity mix should include Liz Phair's "Flower" I think. Anna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:48:40 -0400 From: JoAnn Whetsell Subject: RE: profanity How about PJ Harvey's "Who the F---?" Not one of my favorites of hers, but quite fitting. JoAnn > Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:13:27 -0700 > From: stjarnell@yahoo.com > Subject: profanity > To: ecto@smoe.org > > hi. > a profanity mix should include Liz Phair's "Flower" I think. > Anna _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows.. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:04:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: RE: profanity I knew I was forgetting something that I'd heard on a regular basis. Lots of Nellie McKay, too. JoAnn Whetsell wrote: How about PJ Harvey's "Who the F---?" Not one of my favorites of hers, but quite fitting. JoAnn > Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:13:27 -0700 > From: stjarnell@yahoo.com > Subject: profanity > To: ecto@smoe.org > > hi. > a profanity mix should include Liz Phair's "Flower" I think. > Anna _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows.. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:09:34 -0700 From: Steve VanDevender Subject: Re: Profanity Mix morayati@email.unc.edu writes: > Needs some 50 Foot Wave. I suggest "Clara Bow," for sheer drawn-out > hforce of profanity. Or "Pneuma." As a non-musical interlude, or maybe an introductory track, it should also include George Carlin's "Seven words you can't say on television". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:27:55 -0500 From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: Re: Profanity Mix Hi, I remember listening to the radio when The Ballad of John and Yoko first aired with the "_______! You know it ain't easy." No 'bleep', just an attention-getting blank where "Christ" should have been. We are using 'profane' and not just 'vulgar' here, aren't we? bye, me KrW I'm Peter Pan! I'm perpetually young!! OW!! What's wrong with my back? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:00:06 -0400 From: ontario moe Subject: Re: Profanity Mix one time at band camp, morayati@email.unc.edu (morayati@email.unc.edu) said: >Needs some 50 Foot Wave. I suggest "Clara Bow," for sheer drawn-out >hforce of profanity. Or "Pneuma." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98sOgOmQdY0 woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 16:07:28 -0700 From: Gregory Bossert Subject: Re: Profanity Mix On Sep 2, 2008, at 4:00 PM, ontario moe wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98sOgOmQdY0 i snarfed my iced coffee. now everything smells like coffee. which is good. 'tah - -g - -- www.suddensound.com -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:09:02 -0700 From: Gregory Bossert Subject: Re: Profanity mix On Sep 2, 2008, at 7:18 AM, Jeffrey Burka wrote: > Michael points out: > >> Aimee Mann's I'm With Stupid album opener, "Longshot." > > I was at an Aimee Mann show at the birchmere at which her parents and > brother were present. She apologized profusely before playing that, > insisting that she hadn't learned such language at home. It was > fairly amusing. it still is ;-) this brings up the question of "why use profanity?" obviously, there's a whole range of reasons: * actual anger (hard to keep up in repeated performances, but some surely do) * attention grabbing shock value (a better approach: i once saw Leon Redbone pull out a pistol and fire a blank round into the air during a show at a noisy club. in the sudden silence, he drawled "you weren't paying attention" and then the band kicked back into the song...) * genre norm (i'm a bad-ass individualist, like all those other guys) * metric device (listen to the placement of m-f- in rap; it's often much more a function of the need for neutral syllables in the rhythm) * poetic evocation (the obscene and profane are powerful both directly and by association) Aimee making "f*cked" the first accented word of a otherwise commercially viable pop song, itself the first song on a highly anticipated album, suggests a different mode: smart-ass. given her frustrations with the music business, i hasten to add: a justified and probably legitimately pissed-off smart-ass. 'tah - -g p.s. in the "it takes all kinds of idiots" category, i find myself forced to use a asterisk not due to any fear of offense (as we all know, it's a fine a lovely word) but because otherwise it gets wedged in spam filters, including my own. one can /always/ battle censorship, but against blind stupid sh*thead greed the gods themselves... - -- www.suddensound.com -- ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #592 ***************************