From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #588 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, August 29 2008 Volume 13 : Number 588 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Sarah Fimm and Pandora [Damon ] Re: Sarah Fimm and Pandora [Eric Volker ] hotel cafe tour fall 2008 ["paul kim" ] Lykke Li (and Misshapes) at Le Poisson Rouge 29 Aug ["Karen Hester" Subject: Re: Sarah Fimm and Pandora my thoughts on sarah fimm: her first disc, _cocooned_, i picked up i guess sometime before 2003. the whole song `sexual animals' from that disc might be pretty embarrassing in mixed company (this may be what you're referring to as `obscene lyrics' i guess), but overall i don't recall a load of swearing per se. the first disc feels pretty raw and fairly angry, both in terms of imagery and music - it's not my favourite but is very good for certain intense moods. i remember initially being a bit put off by it but then coming back and listening again in the right mood and really liking it. i then picked up her third disc, _nexus_, in 2004 and immediately loved it. it feels almost the opposite of _cocooned_, very laid back and spacey, fairly electronic, instead of the raw, angry feel of the first disc. it's great late night music. i must confess i've barely ever listened to the lyrics, just because i tend to be floating on the music and just not too interested in what she's singing - i get the feeling they may be a bit weak in spots but i don't really care. love this disc. i finally picked up the middle one, _a perfect dream_, in 2005. it strikes me as being in sort of a logical middle space between the other two. laid back and spacey but with a few more of the raw traces of the first one thrown in. this might be the one where the word `fuck' could be considered to be used gratuitously - it pops up in a few songs (at least the first two, i just listened). doesn't really feel out of context to me and fits with the themes of the songs, but i guess if it bothers you, it might, well, bother you. doesn't really bother me. like amy said, there are loads of samples for all three albums on cdbaby, so go have a listen and see what you think. anyway, overall this is an artist who has really grown on me over the past few years. she's changed quite a bit over the course of three albums, which keeps things interesting, and so far i like all the stages. - -damon On 27 Aug, Eric Volker wrote: > Actually, I was going by the ectoguide entry for Sarah Fimm. Now that > I think about it, it was just one quote from ethereal_lad that caught > my eye. However, the F word is sprinkled liberally throughout, and the > implication is that Sarah Fimm does likewise. I guess what I'm really > asking is does Ms. Fimm use the F word for gratuitous shock value, or > is it used in context? I don't mind the F word used *occasionally*, > but when used gratuitously and frequently it just turns me off. > > Eric > > On Aug 26, 2008, at 8:20 AM, CollectedSounds wrote: > > > I have never noticed that she has a "potty mouth". (I can think of > > one song > > where she uses the F word) But then again, I don't actually have > > tender > > ears. I think she's great. She certainly doesn't swear in every > > single song, > > so listen to a few and see if it suites you. Only you can decide if > > you can > > put up with what you feel are "obscene lyrics". I only own "Perfect > > Dream" > > but I love it and have heard pieces of the others. > > > > A Perfect Dream was reviewed on my site in 2005 by myself and one > > other > > reviewer, we both loved her > > http://www.blog.collectedsounds.com/?p=2071 > > > > Also Anna Maria has reviewed her other records on the site too. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Eric Volker > > wrote: > > > >> I recently started listening to Pandora again after the service > >> became > >> available for free to iPhone owners. I've heard a couple of songs > >> by Sarah > >> Fimm that sound very good. I usually listen at work, though, and > >> can't > >> really separate the lyrics from the music. I also understand that > >> Sarah has, > >> shall we say, a pottymouth. Is the rest of her music worth putting > >> up with > >> the obscene lyrics? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Eric > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Amy Lotsberg > > Collected Sounds > > www.collectedsounds.com > > blog.collectedsounds.com - -- dl+ecto@usrbin.ca: protecting my real address since 2002 (too late!) > EWS starts here! < http://www.last.fm/user/kalaleq/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:06:50 -0500 From: Eric Volker Subject: Re: Sarah Fimm and Pandora Thanks for the input everyone. I decided to drop by Sarah's Myspace page and got a sampling of six songs, and couldn't make out an obscene lyric on any of them. Furthermore, five of the six were astonishing. I had been listening at work to Pandora with the volume turned down low. At home, with the volume at a decent level, I could really appreciate the music. So I went to iTunes and purchased Nexus. So far no regrets; in fact, it's the best thing I've heard since Imogen Heap's Speak for Yourself. I even enjoy the trippy little ambient interludes. Eric On Aug 28, 2008, at 1:09 AM, Damon wrote: > my thoughts on sarah fimm: > > her first disc, _cocooned_, i picked up i guess sometime before 2003. > the whole song `sexual animals' from that disc might be pretty > embarrassing in mixed company (this may be what you're referring to as > `obscene lyrics' i guess), but overall i don't recall a load of > swearing per se. the first disc feels pretty raw and fairly angry, > both in terms of imagery and music - it's not my favourite but is very > good for certain intense moods. i remember initially being a bit put > off by it but then coming back and listening again in the right mood > and really liking it. > > i then picked up her third disc, _nexus_, in 2004 and immediately > loved it. it feels almost the opposite of _cocooned_, very laid back > and spacey, fairly electronic, instead of the raw, angry feel of the > first disc. it's great late night music. i must confess i've barely > ever listened to the lyrics, just because i tend to be floating on the > music and just not too interested in what she's singing - i get the > feeling they may be a bit weak in spots but i don't really care. love > this disc. > > i finally picked up the middle one, _a perfect dream_, in 2005. it > strikes me as being in sort of a logical middle space between the > other two. laid back and spacey but with a few more of the raw traces > of the first one thrown in. this might be the one where the word > `fuck' could be considered to be used gratuitously - it pops up in a > few songs (at least the first two, i just listened). doesn't really > feel out of context to me and fits with the themes of the songs, but i > guess if it bothers you, it might, well, bother you. doesn't really > bother me. > > like amy said, there are loads of samples for all three albums on > cdbaby, so go have a listen and see what you think. > > anyway, overall this is an artist who has really grown on me over the > past few years. she's changed quite a bit over the course of three > albums, which keeps things interesting, and so far i like all the > stages. > > -damon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 06:23:27 -0700 From: "paul kim" Subject: hotel cafe tour fall 2008 And it's all girls this time around. For those who don't know, the Hotel Cafe is a music venue here in L.A. that is a haven for singer-songwriters. Many darlings of the tv/indie-movie music scene have been found from there and the success for the venue has translated into a few nationwide tours featuring those artists. Well, this fall, they're doing it again, and this time, all the participating artists are females, including Rachael Yamagata, Jenny Owen Youngs, Ingrid Michaelson, Meikok and Priscilla Ahn. You can check out the info and tourdates at www.thehotelcafetour.com paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:55:21 -0400 From: "Karen Hester" Subject: Lykke Li (and Misshapes) at Le Poisson Rouge 29 Aug When an artist doesn't know enough songs to fill 55 minutes (including two covers and juvenalia), it's perhaps a sign that they're being hyped too early. Watching Lykke Li is fun - the shabby punk guitar and drums mixed with electronic pop and hip hop can highlight both rhythm and melody. "Little bit", "I'm good I'm gone", "Dance dance dance" and a couple other songs had the audience bouncing along and smiling. She wore a black leotard and tights, towering pumps and layers of fat gold necklaces, but even when shaking her hips and poking her breasts with her drumstick, she seemed un-coquettish. Lykke frowned lots, attacked the drums, shook and whacked hand-held percussion instruments, sang with a megaphone and worked the whole stage which was in the round. She's furiously energetic, with mad dancing that's both silly theater (hand to forehead, hair tossing, fist pumping) and the jerky kicks and flailing of someone who is happy to dance for themselves, unconcerned what they look like. Then there are the teenage ballads, where Lykke thumps the air like a heavy metal diva, the reverb struggles to cover wobbling notes and boost her airy voice, and audience members snigger or wander off for beer. They closed with "Can I kick it?" (A tribe called quest). We supplied Lou Reed's doo doo-doos. Cute, but ways to go. Famous but no doubt so-five-years-ago DJs Misshapes played before and after. I gotta say - support bands, however sucky, are better than DJs at holding one's attention as you stand there for an hour and a half, developing deep vein thrombosis. There were some fine songs but are DJs these days too lazy to match beats for a seamless segue between songs? Perhaps it's not the 'in' thing. As Joe Strummer sings the end of 'London Calling', some gothic dance song starts up and the two co-exist uncomfortably for a few seconds before Joe stomps off. Le Poisson Rouge is an uncomfortable mixture of (not much) tabled seating and squished standing. The bad stage lighting and distracting dance floor lights meant often we were brightly colored ('ooh look, there's a flower on my belly') but Lykke in the dark. Mediocre sound. But they do classical concerts so perhaps it varies. K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:10:21 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Lykke Li (and Misshapes) at Le Poisson Rouge 29 Aug > When an artist doesn't know enough songs to fill 55 minutes (including > two covers and juvenalia), it's perhaps a sign that they're being > hyped too early. I've heard this called a MySpace phenomena. Bands will come through town on the strength of a successful MySpace song. All their local "friends" come out, but the band only has a half dozen songs and hasn't really honed their live show much. They can pull in a few hundred people (while still being almost completely unknown), but the results are much like you describe - a short and generally unsatisfying night. Though that was the word from the club owner. Perhaps the MySpace friends are actually getting just what they want? neal np: Paste Sampler ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #588 ***************************