From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #489 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, May 17 2008 Volume 13 : Number 489 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: albums I want to love [Timothy Jones-Yelvington ] Re: 60/70's [Timothy Jones-Yelvington ] Re: 60/70's ["Robert Lovejoy" ] Re: 60's/70's ecto ["robert bristow-johnson" ] Re: 60's/70's ecto Joy of Cooking [birdie ] Re: 60/70's [Tim Jones-Yelvington ] Re: Sarah Perrotta ["Sharon Nichols" ] Re: 60/70's ["Aly Fields" ] Re: 60/70's [birdie ] Re: 60's/70's ecto ["robert bristow-johnson" ] Happy Featured Artist Today at IACmusic.com [meredith ] RE: Happy Featured Artist Today at IACmusic.com ["Bill Mazur" ] RE: This in from Vickie.. ["Bill Mazur" ] Re: OT: Ecto Oracle Tech Division question: A new type of SPAM - opinions please [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: eMusic US deal ["Paul Jensen" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 03:00:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** **************** Michael Colford (colford@chlotrudis.org) ***************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Julia Macklin Mon May 20 1968 ethereus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem Chandra Sriram Thu May 27 1971 Gemini Taina Sahlander Mon May 28 1973 Gemini Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 02 1966 Kaksoset Alex Gibbs Thu June 08 1967 Betelgeuse Gleb Zverev Tue June 09 1964 Gemini Sonja Juchniewich Mon June 10 1963 Pegasus Joerg Plate Mon June 12 1967 Gemini Chris Montville Tue June 13 1978 Gemini Ectoplasm (original name) Mailing List Thu June 13 1991 Fuzzier blue Paul Huesman Wed June 14 1967 coffee drinker Mark R. Susskind Wed June 15 1966 Gemini Dave Upham Sun June 15 1958 Gemini Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 Pr. SAFH - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:35:04 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: albums I want to love I'm a huge Patty Larkin fan, and am also struggling a little bit with "Watch the Sky." I think it's lacking melody. Like she put more energy into crafting the sound than writing the songs. It seems most comparable to "Regrooving the Dream," in terms of her back catalog. tim On 5/15/08 8:55 PM, "JoAnn Whetsell" wrote: > Patty Larkin - Watch the Sky > > I've been listening to Patty Larkin since Perishable Fruit came out in 1997. > I bought that CD without ever having heard her voice because I read a short > review in a magazine that made me sure I'd love it. And I did. I discovered > some of her previous albums (Tango, Angels Running, and Strangers World) and > bought every release going forward. I saw her in concert twice, in Vancouver > and Seattle. > > So I really want to love her new album, her first completely DIY album, ...but > I don't. I don't dislike it either, and maybe that's worse. Only because it > would at least mean a strong reaction. And because sometimes active dislike > translates, with adjustment, into like and even adoration. But Watch the Sky > kind of leaves me flat. I love the song "Hallelujah," which I find the most > memorable and the only song that demands repeat listening. I like all 3 > opening tracks in fact, but after that it just kind of gets flat, and when > it's over I don't really remember anything about it. When I listen carefully > to the whole album I don't really have any complaints, but it just doesn't > really do anything for me. In sound it's like some of Red=Luck (which I > mostly love) and I also hear the influence of some of the earlier women on the > La Guitara album (earlier in terms of history, not album order). I wish I'd > seen Patty earlier this year; maybe hearing the songs live would have helped > me appreciate the album more. > > > > Terami Hirsch's A Broke Machine was going to be on this list. I wrote "With > each album Terami gets more complex, more intricate. And although I wouldn't > call her more recent work less compelling, I don't find myself drawn in to her > more recent albums. It's like I appreciate the craft and admire her talent, > but I don't really connect to them. And not in that "Oh, this is me! This is > the soundtrack of my life" emotional way, but more that I just don't really > feel inspired to listen to them." > > But then I listened to the album again, and it clicked!, and I've been > listening happily to it ever since. Okay, that was all of a week ago, but > still, I think this one that I'll come back to time and again. > > JoAnn > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live SkyDrive lets you share files with faraway friends. > http://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_s > kydrive_052008 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 08:39:43 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: 60/70's WELL. Since we are going in THAT direction (Astrud & bossa), then I should mention my obsession with the tropicalia movement. Caetano Veloso, Gal Costa, Gileberto Gil, Os Mutantes, etc. The album to get, if you can find a used copy (it seems to constantly go in and out of print) is Tropicalia: ou Panis Et Circensis. It was the concept album for the tropicalia movement and includes multiple artists. tim On 5/15/08 5:45 PM, "Bill Mazur" wrote: > Tim stated: I forgot to mention Claudine Longet > > Since we are going in that direction I would also recommend Francoise Hardy. > Ms. Hardy was the epitome of the sultry breathy French pop singer. I really > enjoy her music when I am in that kind of mood. Some of the stuff that Air > did on Moon Safari with the female vocalist seemed to be a bit of a nod to > that 60s era French pop. > > Similar but quite a bit more in a jazz pop and Brazilian bossa nova vein > would be the wonderful Astrud Gilberto. One of my all-time favorite jazz pop > CDs (released on the excellent CTI label) was "Astrud Gilberto with Stanley > Turrentine". A beautiful mix of jazz and pop. > > Someone else (one of my fellow Bill's here on Ecto) mentioned Flora Purim. > The work she did with Chick Corea on the early Return to Forever recordings > was inspired. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Tim > Jones-Yelvington > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:42 AM > To: stjarnell@yahoo.com; ecto@smoe.org > Subject: Re: 60/70's > > I forgot to mention Claudine Longet. Probably a little bit more of a novelty > act, but I greatly enjoy her. > > And anyone singing anything by Bacharach & David wins my vote. Altho I > actually find that some contemporary covers (ie Cyndi Lauper's) tap into the > emotional core of his songs better than Dionne Warwick's versions did. > > anna maria stjdrnell wrote: Hi. > about the sixties and seventies ecto stuff..try dory previn..hugely > underrated songwriter..she writes very personal and intelligent songs..a > compilation..the art of dory previn is out now. > try laura nyro..you can't go wrong with new york tendaberry..or any of her > sixties stuff. > > the scarlett johansson album meanwhile is pleasing to the ear and hugely > intersting..bowie does nice backing vocals too. > anna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 11:35:16 -0400 From: "Robert Lovejoy" Subject: Re: 60/70's OK, then. Someone has to mention Spanky and Our Gang. MacFarlane's voice was a suburb instrument. Bob Lovejoy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 11:26:14 -0400 From: "robert bristow-johnson" Subject: Re: 60's/70's ecto > wendy waldman- why she doesn't get recognized more is beyond me. a > string of fine albums i don't remember the albums, but my girlfriend of the 70s really liked Wendy. i did too, as much as i've heard. the only song that still sticks with me is "Living is Good". which one is that on? - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:15:24 -0700 From: birdie Subject: Re: 60's/70's ecto Joy of Cooking Ok JOY OF COOKING! Toni Browne and Terry Garthwaite!!!!! Anyone else hear how Laura Nyro and they must have been influencing each other? Terry has a niece Ona Garthwaite She's FAB! http://www.myspace.com/oonamusic you can find a link to the JoC myspace on her page.... Who's memory got jogged by this? Come on! Birdie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:09:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: 60/70's I just remembered something else randomish and a little older. I kind of dig Carole Bayer Sager's one solo record... but that might be from the 80's, not the 70's. It just has an old-fangled sound. tim Robert Lovejoy wrote: OK, then. Someone has to mention Spanky and Our Gang. MacFarlane's voice was a suburb instrument. Bob Lovejoy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 12:35:37 -0400 From: "Sharon Nichols" Subject: Re: Sarah Perrotta here's a review i did of sarah perrotta awhile back for chronogram magazine. good stuff. Sarah Perrotta: The Well Sarah Perrotta Music, 2008 I first heard the quixotic vocals of Sarah Perrotta through her work with the extinct outfit Outloud Dreamer, when she was known as Sarah Medenbach. The name has changed but the voice remains distinctively hers-- smooth as vanilla pudding and lulling as warm liquid velvet, were there such a thing. In her current solo incarnation, she's pulled together local luminaries Tony Levin, Erica Quitzow, Garth Hudson, David Temple and other competent players to help expand her repertoire of emotive, ethereal dream pop. A first spin of The Well may call to mind shades of Natalie Merchant and 10,000 Maniacs, though Perrotta remains completely original and exceedingly sophisticated in her writing (several tracks were co-written with former Dreamer Carl Adami). With Perrotta on piano, The Well is brimming with upbeat, atmospheric textures and hopeful, fanciful lyrics, from the drifting rhythms of "Rooftops" ("I hear the raindrops coming down/and I roll under, I roll through, I roll right on into you") to the pensive, bouncy cadence of "Fishes" (All the flowers of May were asleep in the grey/all the fish in the sea were in love with me). This is the stuff of dreams, but like the real thing it's never frivolous or boring. Dreams always leave us aroused by their strangeness, depth and beauty, and that's what Perrotta will be known for. www.myspace.com/sarahperrottaband. Sharon Nichols - -- "As in the eye of Nature he has lived, so in the eye of Nature let him die."-- William Wordsworth ~ Sharon Nichols ~ Executive Director, Hudson Valley Green Burial Association ~ myspace.com/nygreenburials ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:13:33 -0400 From: "Aly Fields" Subject: Re: 60/70's I knew Os Mutantes would come up somehow with the bossa nova discussion. Elis and Tom (Elis Regina and Antonio Carlos Jobim) is probably my favourite bossa nova record. On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Timothy Jones-Yelvington < timjy@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > WELL. Since we are going in THAT direction (Astrud & bossa), then I should > mention my obsession with the tropicalia movement. Caetano Veloso, Gal > Costa, Gileberto Gil, Os Mutantes, etc. > > The album to get, if you can find a used copy (it seems to constantly go in > and out of print) is Tropicalia: ou Panis Et Circensis. It was the concept > album for the tropicalia movement and includes multiple artists. > > tim > > > On 5/15/08 5:45 PM, "Bill Mazur" wrote: > > > Tim stated: I forgot to mention Claudine Longet > > > > Since we are going in that direction I would also recommend Francoise > Hardy. > > Ms. Hardy was the epitome of the sultry breathy French pop singer. I > really > > enjoy her music when I am in that kind of mood. Some of the stuff that > Air > > did on Moon Safari with the female vocalist seemed to be a bit of a nod > to > > that 60s era French pop. > > > > Similar but quite a bit more in a jazz pop and Brazilian bossa nova vein > > would be the wonderful Astrud Gilberto. One of my all-time favorite jazz > pop > > CDs (released on the excellent CTI label) was "Astrud Gilberto with > Stanley > > Turrentine". A beautiful mix of jazz and pop. > > > > Someone else (one of my fellow Bill's here on Ecto) mentioned Flora > Purim. > > The work she did with Chick Corea on the early Return to Forever > recordings > > was inspired. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Tim > > Jones-Yelvington > > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:42 AM > > To: stjarnell@yahoo.com; ecto@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: 60/70's > > > > I forgot to mention Claudine Longet. Probably a little bit more of a > novelty > > act, but I greatly enjoy her. > > > > And anyone singing anything by Bacharach & David wins my vote. Altho I > > actually find that some contemporary covers (ie Cyndi Lauper's) tap into > the > > emotional core of his songs better than Dionne Warwick's versions did. > > > > anna maria stjdrnell wrote: Hi. > > about the sixties and seventies ecto stuff..try dory previn..hugely > > underrated songwriter..she writes very personal and intelligent songs..a > > compilation..the art of dory previn is out now. > > try laura nyro..you can't go wrong with new york tendaberry..or any of > her > > sixties stuff. > > > > the scarlett johansson album meanwhile is pleasing to the ear and hugely > > intersting..bowie does nice backing vocals too. > > anna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 10:26:21 -0700 From: birdie Subject: Re: 60/70's I am SO loving this whole discussion.... I really am... Have you guys heard the collection from groove gravy records? Specifiaclly the Brazil ReMixed ones?? Go listen to the samples You'll LOVE this http://www.groovegravy.com/ Happy Friday, Birdie Timothy Jones-Yelvington wrote: >WELL. Since we are going in THAT direction (Astrud & bossa), then I should >mention my obsession with the tropicalia movement. Caetano Veloso, Gal >Costa, Gileberto Gil, Os Mutantes, etc. > >The album to get, if you can find a used copy (it seems to constantly go in >and out of print) is Tropicalia: ou Panis Et Circensis. It was the concept >album for the tropicalia movement and includes multiple artists. > >tim > > >On 5/15/08 5:45 PM, "Bill Mazur" wrote: > > > >>Tim stated: I forgot to mention Claudine Longet >> >>Since we are going in that direction I would also recommend Francoise Hardy. >>Ms. Hardy was the epitome of the sultry breathy French pop singer. I really >>enjoy her music when I am in that kind of mood. Some of the stuff that Air >>did on Moon Safari with the female vocalist seemed to be a bit of a nod to >>that 60s era French pop. >> >>Similar but quite a bit more in a jazz pop and Brazilian bossa nova vein >>would be the wonderful Astrud Gilberto. One of my all-time favorite jazz pop >>CDs (released on the excellent CTI label) was "Astrud Gilberto with Stanley >>Turrentine". A beautiful mix of jazz and pop. >> >>Someone else (one of my fellow Bill's here on Ecto) mentioned Flora Purim. >>The work she did with Chick Corea on the early Return to Forever recordings >>was inspired. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Tim >>Jones-Yelvington >>Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:42 AM >>To: stjarnell@yahoo.com; ecto@smoe.org >>Subject: Re: 60/70's >> >>I forgot to mention Claudine Longet. Probably a little bit more of a novelty >>act, but I greatly enjoy her. >> >>And anyone singing anything by Bacharach & David wins my vote. Altho I >>actually find that some contemporary covers (ie Cyndi Lauper's) tap into the >>emotional core of his songs better than Dionne Warwick's versions did. >> >>anna maria stjdrnell wrote: Hi. >>about the sixties and seventies ecto stuff..try dory previn..hugely >>underrated songwriter..she writes very personal and intelligent songs..a >>compilation..the art of dory previn is out now. >>try laura nyro..you can't go wrong with new york tendaberry..or any of her >>sixties stuff. >> >>the scarlett johansson album meanwhile is pleasing to the ear and hugely >>intersting..bowie does nice backing vocals too. >>anna ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 13:30:26 -0400 From: "robert bristow-johnson" Subject: Re: 60's/70's ecto > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "robert bristow-johnson" > To: ecto@smoe.org > Subject: Re: 60's/70's ecto > Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 11:26:14 -0400 > > > > wendy waldman- why she doesn't get recognized more is beyond me. a > > string of fine albums > > i don't remember the albums, but my girlfriend of the 70s really liked Wendy. > i did too, as much as i've heard. the only song that still sticks with me > is "Living is Good". which one is that on? > i was able to answer my own question (moral of story: google first). the song is on the 1976 album The Main Refrain (i sorta remember the title track, also). http://www.wendywaldman.com/discogra.html - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:35:15 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Happy Featured Artist Today at IACmusic.com http://iacmusic.com/ How random!! Apparently Vickie made a page for Happy on this independent music site, and they decided to feature Happy today (Friday, May 16). If you're reading this after today, Happy's page there is at http://iacmusic.com/artist.aspx?id=19569. - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:06:31 -0700 From: "Bill Mazur" Subject: RE: Happy Featured Artist Today at IACmusic.com Awesome! Vickie did a really nice job on the page (as always). Here's a shout out to Vickie. I hope you are doing well. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of meredith Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:35 PM To: ecto Subject: Happy Featured Artist Today at IACmusic.com http://iacmusic.com/ How random!! Apparently Vickie made a page for Happy on this independent music site, and they decided to feature Happy today (Friday, May 16). If you're reading this after today, Happy's page there is at http://iacmusic.com/artist.aspx?id=19569. - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:20:02 -0700 From: "Bill Mazur" Subject: OT: Ecto Oracle Tech Division question: A new type of SPAM - opinions please Today something very disconcerting happened. I went to check my e-mail and I received several hundred e-mail bounces saying that the recipient was not there. This was along the lines of the bounced e-mails I would get when I was executing target e-mail campaigns for the Marketing department at my previous place of employment. I ran a full system scan with my virus and spyware detection software and everything came up clean. I called my ISP and they said it was a new form of SPAM where they make the message look like it originated from you. I still don't understand how I got all of the bounced back messages if the original message didn't originate from me but was just made to look like it came from me. My ISP said that they are working on blocking it out. Should I be concerned that my computer has been compromised and that my virus and spyware detection software is not working properly? This PC I am using is running XP Service Pack 2 not Vista. Thanks in advance to the wise Ecto Oracle Tech Division for any feedback you can provide. ;-) [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:55:52 -0700 From: "Bill Mazur" Subject: RE: OT: Ecto Oracle Tech Division question: A new type of SPAM - opinions please Thank you Nadine! I appreciate your response. I generally feel like I am fairly knowledgeable about things computer related. But when these things happen I start to doubt myself and the abilities of my virus and spyware protection. - -----Original Message----- From: Nadyne Mielke [mailto:nadyne@little-blue-world.org] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:50 PM To: Bill Mazur; ecto@smoe.org Subject: Re: OT: Ecto Oracle Tech Division question: A new type of SPAM - opinions please On 5/16/08 2:20 PM, "Bill Mazur" wrote: > Today something very disconcerting happened. I went to check my e-mail and I > received several hundred e-mail bounces saying that the recipient was not > there. This was along the lines of the bounced e-mails I would get when I > was executing target e-mail campaigns for the Marketing department at my > previous place of employment. Yes, and that's pretty much exactly what's happening here. The spammer is sending out spam, and they're using your email address in the from: line. This is VERY VERY VERY easy to do. When any email bounces, it tries to do the right thing and let you know that it bounced. It's like when you snailmail a birthday card to a friend and it gets returned to you. Just like the post office does with your birthday card, the email system looks at the return address, which in the case of email is the from: line. Since your email address is in the from: line, it gets returned to you. > I ran a full system scan with my virus and spyware detection software and > everything came up clean. I called my ISP and they said it was a new form of > SPAM where they make the message look like it originated from you. I still > don't understand how I got all of the bounced back messages if the original > message didn't originate from me but was just made to look like it came from > me. My ISP said that they are working on blocking it out. This actually isn't a new kind of spam. It's been around for years, fell out of favour amongst spammers for awhile, and is now staging a comeback. The reason you're getting this is because the email system doesn't have a great way to know that you DIDN'T originate the email. To go back to my snailmail example, it would be the same thing if I were to send a birthday card to someone but put your return address on it. If the birthday card can't be delivered, it would go to you instead of to me, because the post office has no way of knowing that it came from me. > Should I be concerned that my computer has been compromised and that my > virus and spyware detection software is not working properly? This PC I am > using is running XP Service Pack 2 not Vista. Your computer hasn't been compromised. This is just that a spammer has gotten ahold of your email address (which isn't hard to do at all) and is trying to make it look like their spam is coming from you. I've been getting a lot of these lately, too, and I'm 1000% confident that my computers haven't been compromised. :) /nm (who works for another large tech company, but not Oracle ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:09:29 -0400 From: "F.J.Fornorn" Subject: Re: OT: Ecto Oracle Tech Division question: A new type of SPAM - opinions please That's been happening to me for years. To oversimplify, the spammer puts someone else's email addr in the Reply-To field, so the mail bouncers reply to that. From what I've seen, it might last a few days or so, then slows down. It may or may not recur in the future. My guess is they keep changing these reply ids over time. I don't know. I've been on a Mac for the last 2+ years so I don't suspect anything viral. This all happens on the various mail servers, so I would not worry much about your own PC. FWIW, all these recipient not found messages mean an email was sent to someone who does not exist. You are probably wondering if any are getting thru to real people, tagged with your reply addr. My guess is probably, but I have never had a response email to one of these. I suspect most of the hits get caught in the recipient's spam filter, or are ignored. On May 16, 2008, at 5:20 PM, Bill Mazur wrote: > Today something very disconcerting happened. I went to check my e- > mail and I > received several hundred e-mail bounces saying that the recipient > was not > there. This was along the lines of the bounced e-mails I would get > when I > was executing target e-mail campaigns for the Marketing department > at my > previous place of employment. > > I ran a full system scan with my virus and spyware detection > software and > everything came up clean. I called my ISP and they said it was a new > form of > SPAM where they make the message look like it originated from you. I > still > don't understand how I got all of the bounced back messages if the > original > message didn't originate from me but was just made to look like it > came from > me. My ISP said that they are working on blocking it out. > > Should I be concerned that my computer has been compromised and that > my > virus and spyware detection software is not working properly? This > PC I am > using is running XP Service Pack 2 not Vista. > > Thanks in advance to the wise Ecto Oracle Tech Division for any > feedback you > can provide. ;-) > > [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef > which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:13:49 -0400 From: Suzanne DeCory Subject: This in from Vickie.. Hope the links show up! Not sure if they will not not. IMHO, ecto sure sucks without Vickie... Suz Vickie writes; Today, Friday May 16, 2008, only, Happy is on the front page as the featured artist at IAC (Independent Artists Company)! It's pretty shocking, but I am definitely not complaining, it's a wonderful thing! I put the page and songs up there a couple of years ago, even paying for Prime membership out of my own pocket. Unlike MySpace, fan pages are not encouraged at IAC so I never really felt "at home" there, but they've been very tolerant. I put up the Find Me songs many months ago, but hadn't visited the page in several weeks. Then, the other day, I visited and decided to put up "Charlie" and I guess that had some impact, because it's on the charts there, and now look, she's on the front page! I'll definitely have to get a screen shot!For those who don't see this Blog until after she's no longer Artist of the Day, her normal page is here. Vickie. _________________________________________________________________ Change the world with e-mail. Join the im Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 16:04:24 -0700 From: "Bill Mazur" Subject: RE: This in from Vickie.. Hi Suzanne, I don't know if Ecto sucks without Vickie being here but I do miss her too. But it appears to be Vickie's own personal choice to be on sabbatical from Ecto. Bill - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Suzanne DeCory Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 3:14 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: This in from Vickie.. Hope the links show up! Not sure if they will not not. IMHO, ecto sure sucks without Vickie... Suz Vickie writes; Today, Friday May 16, 2008, only, Happy is on the front page as the featured artist at IAC (Independent Artists Company)! It's pretty shocking, but I am definitely not complaining, it's a wonderful thing! I put the page and songs up there a couple of years ago, even paying for Prime membership out of my own pocket. Unlike MySpace, fan pages are not encouraged at IAC so I never really felt "at home" there, but they've been very tolerant. I put up the Find Me songs many months ago, but hadn't visited the page in several weeks. Then, the other day, I visited and decided to put up "Charlie" and I guess that had some impact, because it's on the charts there, and now look, she's on the front page! I'll definitely have to get a screen shot!For those who don't see this Blog until after she's no longer Artist of the Day, her normal page is here. Vickie. _________________________________________________________________ Change the world with e-mail. Join the im Initiative from Microsoft. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Join/Default.aspx?source=EML_WL_ChangeWorld ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:49:38 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: OT: Ecto Oracle Tech Division question: A new type of SPAM - opinions please On 5/16/08 2:20 PM, "Bill Mazur" wrote: > Today something very disconcerting happened. I went to check my e-mail and I > received several hundred e-mail bounces saying that the recipient was not > there. This was along the lines of the bounced e-mails I would get when I > was executing target e-mail campaigns for the Marketing department at my > previous place of employment. Yes, and that's pretty much exactly what's happening here. The spammer is sending out spam, and they're using your email address in the from: line. This is VERY VERY VERY easy to do. When any email bounces, it tries to do the right thing and let you know that it bounced. It's like when you snailmail a birthday card to a friend and it gets returned to you. Just like the post office does with your birthday card, the email system looks at the return address, which in the case of email is the from: line. Since your email address is in the from: line, it gets returned to you. > I ran a full system scan with my virus and spyware detection software and > everything came up clean. I called my ISP and they said it was a new form of > SPAM where they make the message look like it originated from you. I still > don't understand how I got all of the bounced back messages if the original > message didn't originate from me but was just made to look like it came from > me. My ISP said that they are working on blocking it out. This actually isn't a new kind of spam. It's been around for years, fell out of favour amongst spammers for awhile, and is now staging a comeback. The reason you're getting this is because the email system doesn't have a great way to know that you DIDN'T originate the email. To go back to my snailmail example, it would be the same thing if I were to send a birthday card to someone but put your return address on it. If the birthday card can't be delivered, it would go to you instead of to me, because the post office has no way of knowing that it came from me. > Should I be concerned that my computer has been compromised and that my > virus and spyware detection software is not working properly? This PC I am > using is running XP Service Pack 2 not Vista. Your computer hasn't been compromised. This is just that a spammer has gotten ahold of your email address (which isn't hard to do at all) and is trying to make it look like their spam is coming from you. I've been getting a lot of these lately, too, and I'm 1000% confident that my computers haven't been compromised. :) /nm (who works for another large tech company, but not Oracle ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 19:45:49 -0400 From: "Karen Hester" Subject: eMusic US deal Hiya, the Circuit City sale on 'eMusic starter packs' (65 downloads for $4.95) ends tomorrow. Unfortunately many stores, including all the Manhattan ones, are out, but if you live somewhere obscure, you might be able to pick them up still. You can't buy the starter packs online. It's a black box, usually hung near iTunes gift cards, and the expiry date is past but that doesn't matter. Stores don't seem to have bothered changing the price on the shelf, but it comes up as $4.95 at the register. Current eMusic users just type the code in and get downloading. Am kicking myself for only buying one before they sold out :( K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 21:24:45 -0500 From: "Paul Jensen" Subject: Re: eMusic US deal Whoa!! Thanks for posting this!! Just got back from purchasing SIX of these wonderful gift cards at $4.99 apiece. Insane! I almost feel bad for taking so much of emusic's music for free (basically!).. In fact, there were even MORE on the rack, but six of them seemed like more than enough. Of course now I think I should go back tomorrow and scoop up the rest. :) Paul - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "This is the time. And this is the record of the time." - -Laurie Anderson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #489 ***************************