From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #487 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, May 15 2008 Volume 13 : Number 487 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- recos of 60s/70s ecto influencing albums? [Adam Kimmel ] Re: Best of 2007 (Mitchell) ["Karen Hester" ] Re: Best of 2007 (Mitchell) ["Jeffrey Burka" ] Re: Best of 2007 [Timothy Jones-Yelvington ] 60s ["Donald G. Keller" ] Re: Best of 2007 (Mitchell) [neal copperman ] Re: Best of 2007 (Mitchell) [neile ] Re: 60s ["robert bristow-johnson" ] Scarlett Johansson's "Anywhere I Lay My Head" ["Paul Jensen" ] Re: Scarlett Johansson's "Anywhere I Lay My Head" [Michael Curry ] Re: Deni Bonet ["robert bristow-johnson" ] Re: 60's/70's ecto [breinheimer@webtv.net (bill)] Re: snobby nico fans [breinheimer@webtv.net (bill)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 02:19:40 -0800 From: Adam Kimmel Subject: recos of 60s/70s ecto influencing albums? I'll fly the prog flag and recommend Yes (hey, I just never liked Topographic Oceans, but it seems to be one that divides fans incredibly). Also Genesis up to Gabriel's departure, although they still managed a couple of good ones, so maybe up to Hackett's departure. Hackett's first couple of solo albums are pretty good, too. Brand X's "Unorthodox Behaviour" with Phil Collins on drums, a reminder of what a fantastic jazz drummer he was. Brian Eno's first four solo albums. I'd say that was probably my first real "ecto", in that I bought the first two from the cut-out bins and instantly fell in love with them, but was unable to explain to anybody why or even what they were like. Phil Manzanera's solo stuff from the 70s was also very interesting, with a host of guest stars and one of the best live albums ever, "801 Live", which is highly recommended. Gentle Giant, a lovely little band whose eclecticism is dazzling and whose music was shot through with good humour. Amazingly talented musicians, awesomely complicated music (rock those gregorians!) Seconds for Judee Sill and Joan Armatrading, natch. Cat Stevens. "Mona Bone Jakon", "Catch Bull at Four" "Teaser and the Firecat" and "Tea for the Tillerman" are all stunning albums, and even his later work, like "Buddha and the Chocolate Box", has some gems. Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young, in various permutations. Dan Fogelberg. Okay, his "Souvenirs" was probably my first "ecto" moment. Other west coasties, of course -- Jackson Browne, James Taylor, etc. Pink Floyd -- "Wish You WEre Here", in particular. I'd always recommend Roy Wood's first two solo albums, "Boulders" and "Mustard". They can be a bit derivative, but he melded styles like nobody else can, and he was one talented musician and songwriter. Supertramp!! Not everybody's idea of ecto, I realise, but their run of albums: "Crime of the Century" "Crisis? What Crisis?" and "Even in the Quietest Moments" are sublime. After that, it got kind of silly. The Strawbs -- starting out as folkies in the 60s, evolving -- through quite a fast turnover of members -- into something more prog, before swerving off into MOR rock and disappearing altogether. "Just a Collection of Antiques and Curious" is a good snapshot, with Rick Wakeman on keyboards before he got unbearable, and "Hero and Heroine" is a lovely album, both haunting and uplifting. Tim Buckley -- Jeff's dad. And, of course, I'd be remiss in my duty if I didn't recommend Peter Hammill, but he really is a Marmite musician: People either love him or hate him and I love him. An acquired taste, but he's got passion and anger and sensitivity. "Over", which even I have mixed feelings about, charts the breakup of a relationship, and might be a good place to start. None of it is easy listening, to say the least. Crikey, I do go on a bit, don't I? Adam K. ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 07:57:36 -0400 From: "Karen Hester" Subject: Re: Best of 2007 (Mitchell) Mitchell dissed his earlier work at a writer's conference last year, he said it's pretentious and is appalled by it! Nooo... Sure, it's clever-sod-show-off stuff : epic, expansive, grand, ornate, experimental, but I reckon it works. I was so surprised with "Black Swan Green" - he can do little and ordinary wonderfully too. K. > neal sez: > >> Just finished Mitchell's "Black Swan Green" and totally loved it. >> Thoroughly enjoyed "Ghostwritten" too. He's definitely someone to >> watch. > > Don't miss _Number9Dream_ and _Cloud Atlas_! > > Craig Gidney got me into Mitchell's writing by giving me one of the > earlier books for my birthday a number of years ago. Great stuff. > > jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 08:07:56 -0400 From: "Jeffrey Burka" Subject: Re: Best of 2007 (Mitchell) Karen sez: > Mitchell dissed his earlier work at a writer's conference last year, > he said it's pretentious and is appalled by it! Interesting. Of course, if he thinks he's being pretentious in those earlier books, he must not have read things like, say, _House of Leaves_ by Mark Danielewski. Mitchell's stuff is downright straightforward by comparison. Personally, I didn't like _Black Swan Green_ nearly as much as the earlier books. Well-written, yes, but also less interesting. jeff n.p. _You Were Here_, Sarah Harmer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 08:16:58 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: Best of 2007 You should also check my two favorites of the year so far, Veda Hille's latest and "Borrowed Arms" by Carla Kihlstedt's group 2 Foot Yard (it's on Cdbaby). Am just starting to get into the Terami Hirsch record as well, and the Jill Tracy is also pretty great. Tim On 5/14/08 6:44 AM, "Adam Kimmel" wrote: > Oh, and btw, thanks for the feedback. I really wanted to like the Patty > Griffin, especially after the previous one, but she sounded like she was > trying too hard to be all things to everyone, and nothing hangs together. > Even the structure of the album, and the order of the songs is a little off, > to me. I played and played the Kristin Hersh, but all I could remember were > the first and last songs. Maybe it's age, but some albums just don't bed down > in my brain as well as others. I've listened to Radioheads acclaimed latest > about thirty times and couldn't identify a single song, whereas Van der Graaf > Generator's latest, which I have severely mixed feelings about, got under my > skin after only a couple of listenings. Hmmm. maybe that was the problem. > > Still, tons of good stuff, right now: really liking Nick Cave, Delays, > Goldfrapp and Bob Mould, even kind of liking the Kathleen Edwards after a > shaky start, so there's hope for the rest of the year. > > Thanks again, > > Adam K. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: timjy@sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Tue, 13 May 2008 19:05:19 -0500 >> To: adamk@inbox.com, ecto@smoe.org >> Subject: Re: Best of 2007 >> >> Agree on some of your disappointments. I think the Patty Griffin is an >> incoherent mess of perfectly lovely songs that somehow have very little >> emotional impact compared to her earlier work. >> I think the Kristin Hersh starts strong and then fizzles. >> >> And... Totally not criticizing or making fun of you here, am just >> entertained -- I think Noe would giggle over having her Journals turned >> into >> Chronicles. >> >> tim >> >> >> On 5/13/08 7:05 AM, "Adam Kimmel" wrote: >> >>> Found this in my drafts folder and thought, "Hey, nobody's watching, >>> might as >>> well slip it out now". Besides, it was a great year for music for me, >>> and >>> this year's shaping up really nicely, so I thought it would be good to >>> clear >>> the decks. >>> >>> So, belatedly and in no particular order and, yes, IMHO: >>> >>> 1. "Up in our Bedroom After the War" by Stars. >>> >>> 2. "King of Cards" by Tom McRae. >>> >>> 3. "Songs for the Road" by David Ford. >>> >>> 4. "American Doll Posse" by Tori Amos. >>> >>> 5. "Find Me" by Happy Rhodes. >>> >>> 6. "Autumn of the Seraphs" by Pinback. >>> >>> 7. "White Chalk" by PJ Harvey. (While I admire the album more than I >>> actually >>> like it, I acknowledge its genius). >>> >>> 8. "The Neon Bible" by Arcade Fire. >>> >>> 9. "Be Careful What You Wish For" by Jonatha Brooke. (A bit of an iffy >>> one, >>> here: a disappointment after "Back at the Circus", being a bit shiny and >>> glossy, but this is still an album I keep coming back to). >>> >>> 10. "Summer Storm Chronicles" by Noe Venables. >>> >>> 11. "Spirit If..." by Kevin Drew. >>> >>> 12. "Challengers" by the New Pornographers. >>> >>> Bubbling under: >>> >>> "The Crane Wife" by the Decemberists. >>> >>> "Nuclear Daydream" by Joseph Arthur. >>> >>> >>> >>> Disappointments: Patty Griffin, Kate Walsh, Feist, Kristen Hersh and, >>> um, >>> Bjork. This last, I think has more to me just falling out of tune with >>> her >>> "elf caught in a steam press" style vocals. >>> >>> Thanks, but no thanks (artists I just couldn't get into): >>> My Morning Jacket and Caribou >>> >>> Maybe next time: Terra Naomi. Definitely promise, but not quite there >>> yet. >>> >>> Fave re-releases: "Boulders" by Roy Wood, "Sitting Targets" by Peter >>> Hammill >>> and "The Man in the Bowler Hat" by Stackridge. >>> >>> Least favourite CD: "Boys and Girls in America" by the Hold Steady. >>> >>> Older CDs I tried to rediscover, to no avail: "Tales of Topographic >>> Oceans" >>> "Up" by Peter Gabriel, as well as "Boys for Pele" "Either/Or" and "XO" >>> >>> Fave film: A tie between "Inland Empire" and "Atonement". >>> Least fave film: Probably "Control", but that's mainly down to the >>> narrow >>> field. >>> >>> Fave book: David Mitchell's "Ghostwritten" >>> >>> Least fave: "This Book Will Save Your Life" by AM Homes. O..M....G. >>> >>> Back to lurking for me, >>> >>> Adam K. >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Receive Notifications of Incoming Messages >>> Easily monitor multiple email accounts & access them with a click. >>> Visit http://www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 08:56:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Donald G. Keller" Subject: 60s I've just rediscovered Jefferson Airplane, who were my first favorite band after the Beatles (you =do= know the Beatles, right?), reminding myself that the long road that led me to loving the music of Kate Bush, Tori Amos, and Kristeen Young began with Grace Slick. I still love the four main albums--=Surrealistic Pillow=, =After Bathing at Baxter's=, =Crown of Creation=, and =Volunteers=--all of which are available in remastered, extra-track, midprice editions. I'll also second (third? n+1?) the recommendations of Sandy Denny, Renaissance, and It's a Beautiful Day. Lastly, I still love =Tales from Topographic Oceans=, which was in fact the album that made me a Yes fan. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 08:28:24 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Best of 2007 (Mitchell) Heh, like the Cocteau Twins (slagging their old stuff), which seems a little weird when there are so many people out there enjoying it. "Black Swan Green" seems epic on a small scale (if that makes sense), and it still has a touch of the "clever sod" in it too. I personally like that sort of thing, as long as it is tied to something with spirit, rather then being merely clever. neal . At 7:57 AM -0400 5/14/08, Karen Hester wrote: >Mitchell dissed his earlier work at a writer's conference last year, >he said it's pretentious and is appalled by it! Nooo... Sure, it's >clever-sod-show-off stuff : epic, expansive, grand, ornate, >experimental, but I reckon it works. I was so surprised with "Black >Swan Green" - he can do little and ordinary wonderfully too. > >K. > >> neal sez: >> >>> Just finished Mitchell's "Black Swan Green" and totally loved it. >>> Thoroughly enjoyed "Ghostwritten" too. He's definitely someone to >>> watch. >> >> Don't miss _Number9Dream_ and _Cloud Atlas_! >> >> Craig Gidney got me into Mitchell's writing by giving me one of the >> earlier books for my birthday a number of years ago. Great stuff. >> >> jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 08:05:09 -0700 (PDT) From: neile Subject: Re: Best of 2007 (Mitchell) I hate to say a writer is wrong about his own work, but you're right, he is. It's ambitious and pretty successful about achieving those ambitions, which I found refreshing. I liked _Black Swan Green_ a lot, too, but so many people can do little and ordinary. Many are ambitious, too, but few so successful at it. Though I can understand not liking your earlier work. That happens. - --Neile, who wishes her first book were out of print and not her second On Wed, 14 May 2008, Karen Hester wrote: > Mitchell dissed his earlier work at a writer's conference last year, > he said it's pretentious and is appalled by it! Nooo... Sure, it's > clever-sod-show-off stuff : epic, expansive, grand, ornate, > experimental, but I reckon it works. I was so surprised with "Black > Swan Green" - he can do little and ordinary wonderfully too. > > K. > > > neal sez: > > > >> Just finished Mitchell's "Black Swan Green" and totally loved it. > >> Thoroughly enjoyed "Ghostwritten" too. He's definitely someone to > >> watch. > > > > Don't miss _Number9Dream_ and _Cloud Atlas_! > > > > Craig Gidney got me into Mitchell's writing by giving me one of the > > earlier books for my birthday a number of years ago. Great stuff. > > > > jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:54:08 -0400 From: "robert bristow-johnson" Subject: Re: 60s > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donald G. Keller" > To: ecto@smoe.org > Subject: 60s > Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 08:56:13 -0400 (EDT) > > > Lastly, I still love =Tales from Topographic Oceans=, which was in fact the > album that made me a Yes fan. yeah, but that's not the 60s. even though i must have loaned or misplaced my Led Zep, i still have my Yes vinyl. what's nice about the old vinyl is the nice big artwork that was made use of by Yes (with Roger Dean) and sorta set the stage for imagery in the Lord of the Rings movies, as far as i can tell. i think Topo and Relayer were my fav Yes albums. being 52, i confess that i am too young to be considered a child of the 60s (my hair was too short then). i came of age in the 70s. but i remember when Elenor Rigby, Yesterday, Michelle, Hey Jude, Let It Be came out. as well as Summer in the City, 96 Tears, I'd Love to Change the World (Ten Years After, not that stupid Coke commercial), Light My Fire, Good Vibrations. I remember some stuff from the 60s. - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:54:19 -0500 From: "Paul Jensen" Subject: Scarlett Johansson's "Anywhere I Lay My Head" Wow. Has anyone checked out Scarlett Johansson's album of Tom Waits covers yet? The official release isn't out yet, but it's leaked. I'm not familiar with Tom Waits' music (very selective out which male-singers I'm into) - so you won't hear me dissing Scarlett's attempt at a cover album based purely on admiring the source material.. I've already read a review that rolled its eyes at the album and said something along the lines of "You just don't cover Tom Waits songs!" - I feel such reviews are extremely unfair. At first listen, I didn't think I'd be into this album. Scarlett's voice is deeper than I would have imagined - at times she almost reminds me of Nico.. very slow, thick, deep.. It's nice, very nice, just not what I had expected. Her vocals also seem low in the mix - as if her voice is floating amongst the music. A little distracting at first.. But man, this album has grown on me big time. A great headphones-album, but it sounds great blasting out of the speakers in the car as well. The songs are moody, ethereal, melodic and catchy. Her voice is fantastic, and it sounding low in the mix adds to the mood and airy-ness of the songs. The entire album has a great feel to it, too. No songs sound out-of-place, which is interesting considering songs were taken from various albums from Waits' career. I think a lot of ecto-folk will love this album. It's most definitely going to end up high on my best of 2008 list. Paul - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "This is the time. And this is the record of the time." - -Laurie Anderson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:17:17 +0000 From: jjhanson@att.net Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's "Anywhere I Lay My Head" Wow--whoever says "you just don't cover Tom Wait's music" hasn't heard Holly Cole's Temptation album! I did see a video of a Tom Wait's cover that now you mention is was probably almost assuredly Scarlet Johanssen--I wasn't too impressed, but could see where it could grow on you--kind of electronic, moody, somewhat reminescent of the feel of Placebo's Running Up That Hill cover if covered by St. Etienne or other female singer. Anyway, if you're looking at Tom Wait's covers, check out Holly Cole's Temptation album. Jeff Hanson - -------------- Original message from "Paul Jensen" : -------------- > Wow. Has anyone checked out Scarlett Johansson's album of Tom Waits covers > yet? The official release isn't out yet, but it's leaked. > > I'm not familiar with Tom Waits' music (very selective out which > male-singers I'm into) - so you won't hear me dissing Scarlett's attempt at > a cover album based purely on admiring the source material.. I've already > read a review that rolled its eyes at the album and said something along the > lines of "You just don't cover Tom Waits songs!" - I feel such reviews are > extremely unfair. > > At first listen, I didn't think I'd be into this album. Scarlett's voice is > deeper than I would have imagined - at times she almost reminds me of Nico.. > very slow, thick, deep.. It's nice, very nice, just not what I had expected. > Her vocals also seem low in the mix - as if her voice is floating amongst > the music. A little distracting at first.. > > But man, this album has grown on me big time. A great headphones-album, but > it sounds great blasting out of the speakers in the car as well. The songs > are moody, ethereal, melodic and catchy. Her voice is fantastic, and it > sounding low in the mix adds to the mood and airy-ness of the songs. The > entire album has a great feel to it, too. No songs sound out-of-place, which > is interesting considering songs were taken from various albums from Waits' > career. I think a lot of ecto-folk will love this album. It's most > definitely going to end up high on my best of 2008 list. > > Paul > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "This is the time. > And this is the record of the time." > -Laurie Anderson > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 17:03:06 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's "Anywhere I Lay My Head" >I've already >read a review that rolled its eyes at the album and said something along the >lines of "You just don't cover Tom Waits songs!" - I feel such reviews are >extremely unfair. Kind of silly too. You don't cover Tom Waits like you don't cover Bob Dylan. Two artists who write great songs and have voices that many find unlistenable. He's also been heavily covered too. I don't have the CD, but it is a collaboration with the guy from TV on the Radio, who apparently has as much to do with the sound as Ms. Johansson. And David Bowie sings back-up too. (Can you imagine having David Bowie sing back-up on your debut album?) neal np: Harmony of Body, Mind and Soul - Pandit MuKesh Desai nr: Flight - Sherman Alexie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:49:43 -0400 From: kevin bartlett Subject: That Glow in the Dark thing. Firstly, as always, the deepest possible thanks and appreciation for you guys who have already got a copy from the label. The feedback has been most humbling and exciting as well. Just a head's up here. I just received this blurb from CD Baby: "Kevin, We just got 5 copies of KEVIN BARTLETT: Glow In The Dark in the mail today. We keep the first one as the store copy to open, label, scan and digitize - and so we have 4 "sellable" copies now. From now on the exact amount you send is the amount we'll sell. It's only this very first time we have to keep that one aside as the opened/unsellable copy. It's in line now to be added to the CD Baby website and store. Please give us 5-10 days from now to get all the digitizing, editing, scanning, and page-making done. (This is also when we listen to it!) We will email you the very minute it's up on the website, OK? CD Baby" Apparently the world moves at it's own pace. I know a lot of people support that site, which is very cool for us selling there. I thought they'd be up and running with it a little sooner, but they're on it. I would've shipped them more but with a new release this is the way they do it until they start getting inundated with orders. In the mean time if you simply just can't stand it....we got some here. Again my gratitude for all the Ecto family support. From Warpaint, to paint that Glows in the Dark You guys rock ! Hugs Kev-o ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:42:46 -0400 From: Michael Curry Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's "Anywhere I Lay My Head" Wil Wheaton blogged about this yesterday, and his post includes a Warner Music sanctioned widget on which you can listen to the entire album (I haven't listened yet): http://wilwheaton.typepad.com/wwdnbackup/2008/05/anywhere-she-la.html Paul Jensen wrote: > Wow. Has anyone checked out Scarlett Johansson's album of Tom Waits covers > yet? The official release isn't out yet, but it's leaked. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 19:48:10 -0400 From: morayati@email.unc.edu Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's "Anywhere I Lay My Head" Funny you should mention this, as I was thinking about it earlier. I was about to bring it up, but I was a bit afraid of the response. I know Milla got a positive reception, and She & Him (I *think* they were mentioned), but you never know. I haven't heard the album in its entirety (because it isn't out yet), but I did hear previews. And it isn't nearly as horrible as some people are making it out to be. And I do like Scarlett's voice. - -Sarah Quoting Paul Jensen : > Wow. Has anyone checked out Scarlett Johansson's album of Tom Waits covers > yet? The official release isn't out yet, but it's leaked. > > I'm not familiar with Tom Waits' music (very selective out which > male-singers I'm into) - so you won't hear me dissing Scarlett's attempt at > a cover album based purely on admiring the source material.. I've already > read a review that rolled its eyes at the album and said something along the > lines of "You just don't cover Tom Waits songs!" - I feel such reviews are > extremely unfair. > > At first listen, I didn't think I'd be into this album. Scarlett's voice is > deeper than I would have imagined - at times she almost reminds me of Nico.. > very slow, thick, deep.. It's nice, very nice, just not what I had expected. > Her vocals also seem low in the mix - as if her voice is floating amongst > the music. A little distracting at first.. > > But man, this album has grown on me big time. A great headphones-album, but > it sounds great blasting out of the speakers in the car as well. The songs > are moody, ethereal, melodic and catchy. Her voice is fantastic, and it > sounding low in the mix adds to the mood and airy-ness of the songs. The > entire album has a great feel to it, too. No songs sound out-of-place, which > is interesting considering songs were taken from various albums from Waits' > career. I think a lot of ecto-folk will love this album. It's most > definitely going to end up high on my best of 2008 list. > > Paul > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "This is the time. > And this is the record of the time." > -Laurie Anderson > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 20:16:46 -0400 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's "Anywhere I Lay My Head" On May 14, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Michael Curry wrote: > Wil Wheaton blogged about this yesterday, and his post includes a > Warner > Music sanctioned widget on which you can listen to the entire album (I > haven't listened yet): Thanks for the link, Mike. I'm listening now...and at least so far, have to agree with Paul's "wow" assessment. Not at all what I'd expect her to sound like. And as for the "no one covers Tom Waits," I'd have to say that I'm in the camp who finds his song writing fascinating and his voice unlistenable. Besides, what about Patty Smyth covering "Downtown Train" on her first solo album? Beats the hell out of the Rod Stewart cover. That was, what, '87? jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 20:18:33 -0400 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's "Anywhere I Lay My Head" On May 14, 2008, at 7:48 PM, morayati@email.unc.edu wrote: > And I do like Scarlett's voice. it took me a little while, but it just dawned on me who she reminds me of: a perky Tanita Tikaram. jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 18:46:09 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's "Anywhere I Lay My Head" I'd have more opinions if I could get those damn widgits to run reliably! Is anyone else having trouble with them? For me, they don't load all the time and then stop playing and won't restart. Very annoying... neal np: nothing - damn it! . At 8:16 PM -0400 5/14/08, Jeffrey Burka wrote: >On May 14, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Michael Curry wrote: > >>Wil Wheaton blogged about this yesterday, and his post includes a Warner >>Music sanctioned widget on which you can listen to the entire album (I >>haven't listened yet): > >Thanks for the link, Mike. I'm listening now...and at least so far, >have to agree with Paul's "wow" assessment. Not at all what I'd >expect her to sound like. And as for the "no one covers Tom Waits," >I'd have to say that I'm in the camp who finds his song writing >fascinating and his voice unlistenable. > >Besides, what about Patty Smyth covering "Downtown Train" on her >first solo album? Beats the hell out of the Rod Stewart cover. >That was, what, '87? > >jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:15:48 -0400 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's "Anywhere I Lay My Head" Dunno what to tell you...I was able to listen to the whole album via the widget using Camino on a mac. Jeff n.p. "Fall", Happy Rhodes On May 14, 2008, at 8:46 PM, neal copperman wrote: > I'd have more opinions if I could get those damn widgits to run > reliably! Is anyone else having trouble with them? For me, they > don't load all the time and then stop playing and won't restart. > > Very annoying... > > neal > > np: nothing - damn it! > > . > > At 8:16 PM -0400 5/14/08, Jeffrey Burka wrote: >> On May 14, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Michael Curry wrote: >> >>> Wil Wheaton blogged about this yesterday, and his post includes a >>> Warner >>> Music sanctioned widget on which you can listen to the entire >>> album (I >>> haven't listened yet): >> >> Thanks for the link, Mike. I'm listening now...and at least so >> far, have to agree with Paul's "wow" assessment. Not at all what >> I'd expect her to sound like. And as for the "no one covers Tom >> Waits," I'd have to say that I'm in the camp who finds his song >> writing fascinating and his voice unlistenable. >> >> Besides, what about Patty Smyth covering "Downtown Train" on her >> first solo album? Beats the hell out of the Rod Stewart cover. >> That was, what, '87? >> >> jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 20:27:46 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Scarlett Johansson's "Anywhere I Lay My Head" I was having a bunch of problems and rebooted and it has all been working great. Hmmm, you'd think my new MacBook was a PC! I'm on the fence about the album. I find it kind of interesting, and it sort of grows on me. But I don't feel like Scarlett discovered the inner core of these songs like Holly Cole did. Course, I've listened to "Temptation" a hundred times and I'm only on my second pass through AILMH. neal . At 10:15 PM -0400 5/14/08, Jeffrey Burka wrote: >Dunno what to tell you...I was able to listen to the whole album via >the widget using Camino on a mac. > >Jeff > >n.p. "Fall", Happy Rhodes > >On May 14, 2008, at 8:46 PM, neal copperman wrote: > >>I'd have more opinions if I could get those damn widgits to run >>reliably! Is anyone else having trouble with them? For me, they >>don't load all the time and then stop playing and won't restart. >> >>Very annoying... >> >>neal >> >>np: nothing - damn it! >> >>. >> >>At 8:16 PM -0400 5/14/08, Jeffrey Burka wrote: >>>On May 14, 2008, at 7:42 PM, Michael Curry wrote: >>> >>>>Wil Wheaton blogged about this yesterday, and his post includes a Warner >>>>Music sanctioned widget on which you can listen to the entire album (I >>>>haven't listened yet): >>> >>>Thanks for the link, Mike. I'm listening now...and at least so >>>far, have to agree with Paul's "wow" assessment. Not at all what >>>I'd expect her to sound like. And as for the "no one covers Tom >>>Waits," I'd have to say that I'm in the camp who finds his song >>>writing fascinating and his voice unlistenable. >>> >>>Besides, what about Patty Smyth covering "Downtown Train" on her >>>first solo album? Beats the hell out of the Rod Stewart cover. >>>That was, what, '87? >>> >>>jeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:43:19 -0400 From: "F.J.Fornorn" Subject: Deni Bonet new ablum: Last Girl on Earth. avail: cdbaby, itunes, denibonet.com I haven't had this much fun in *years*... Word up ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 23:12:11 -0400 From: "robert bristow-johnson" Subject: Re: Deni Bonet > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "F.J.Fornorn" > To: Ecto > Subject: Deni Bonet > Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:43:19 -0400 > > > new ablum: Last Girl on Earth. > avail: cdbaby, itunes, denibonet.com > > I haven't had this much fun in *years*... > > Word up i have some other CD from the 90s (she's climbing the Empire State Building like King Kong). maybe there was one song i liked. i think there was a song called "Bigger is Better" or similar. i first heard her when she was selected by someone who liked her to play at the Javits during some evening of the Audio Engineering Society convention (so, being in NYC, it had to be an odd-numbered year, maybe 1999). i remember that i and an AES friend got pretty drunk because they had an open bar at this little "private" party and i think she thought that i was pretty goofy. i certainly never thought she was as good as Happy or similar (and i tried to get them to book Happy for a private AES party so i was sorta pissed that they ignored my suggestion for someone "lesser", i dunno). maybe this one is better, i dunno. - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 01:33:53 -0400 From: breinheimer@webtv.net (bill) Subject: Re: 60's/70's ecto a few more ecto and near ecto artists: fairport convention- yeah they've been mentioned but don't limit yourself to liege and lief. all their sandy denny releases are excellent fleetwood mac- same deal as above. check out bare trees, future games and mystery to me. john martyn- nick drake's bud doesn't get the attention he deserves. everything he did from 1969-1975 is excellent. the first two of those (stormbringer and road to ruin) feature then wife beverly prominently on vocals. flora purim- specifically the lp nothing will be as it was...tomorrow. great musicians, great songs and a glorious 6 octave range. jimmy spheeris- especially isle of view and the dragon is dancing. criminally underrated. wendy waldman- why she doesn't get recognized more is beyond me. a string of fine albums also, did anyone mention maria muldaur? I was going to make a list of essential ( but non-ecto) artists and albums from the 60's and 70's but stopped when it got up towards 50. I know everyone loves the music they came of age with (we appear to be "hardwired" to do so) but I truly feel that I was lucky to do so at what I believe was a pretty unique time musically speaking. It's not a coincidence that progressive rock was at it's height of popularity. songs were often longer and albums dominated the market w/o the need for hit singles. heck, Jethro Tull's Thick as a Brick went to #1 although it was a single album length song. good luck trying that today. lots of musicians made good (and even great) livings w/o a hit single. I think that most musicians like that nowadays have day jobs. perhaps the internet can change that. certainly radiohead's success w/o a major label provides hope. oh, and by the way. I like desert storm, marble index and chelsea girls. all good, just different. Nico ( the original goth) was so good my girlfriend and I named a cat after her( a black one of course). np luna- penthouse ...and we have a cat named luna, too. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 01:36:47 -0400 From: breinheimer@webtv.net (bill) Subject: Re: snobby nico fans sorry. I mean desert shore obviously. it's 1:30 am and apparently time to toddle off to bed ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #487 ***************************