From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #448 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, April 7 2008 Volume 13 : Number 448 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friends... [Mike Matthews ] Keren Ann Zeidel :-) [Leonora Christina Skov ] society of imaginary friends [anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Brion McIntosh (no Email address) ******************** ******************* Marcel Kshensky (no Email address) ******************** *********************** Bill Mazur (wpm@value.net) ************************ *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Brion McIntosh Sun April 06 1958 Aries Marcel Kshensky Thu April 06 1950 Aries Bill Mazur Mon April 06 1953 Aries Sun/Cancer Rising David Dixon Tue April 07 1970 Aries Heidi Heller Mon April 08 1974 Aries Jill Hughes Sat April 09 1955 Aries Klaus Kluge Sun April 10 1960 Unicorn Steve VanDevender Sun April 10 1966 Racer Art Liestman Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Stephen Golden Sat April 10 1971 Jokey Michael Bowman Wed April 11 1962 Aries Wolfgang Ullwer Fri April 11 1969 Widder Janet Kirsch Thu April 11 1974 Aries Kristen Scallion Fri April 12 1974 Aries Jerry Tue April 13 1971 Aries Stuart Myerburg Mon April 14 1969 Aries T-Bone Wed April 15 1992 happy cat Jeff Hanson Sat April 16 1966 Aries Michael Klouda Mon April 17 1967 Aries Noe Venable Tue April 20 1976 Aries Harry Foster Sat April 21 1956 NiceGuy Kjetil Torgrim Homme Thu April 23 1970 Taurus Jeff Burka Thu April 24 1969 GoFlyAKite Christine Waite Tue April 25 1972 Taurus Matt Adams Thu April 26 1962 Taurus Brad Hutchinson Tue April 28 1964 What sign? Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus Marty Lash Sat May 01 1948 Taurus Barney Parker Fri May 02 1986 happy cat Gray Abbott Tue May 03 1955 Suprised Tamar Boursalian Tue May 03 1966 Taurus - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 12:16:31 +0200 From: Leonora Christina Skov Subject: Keren Ann Zeidel :-) Keren Ann Zeidel is fantastic! Id say her self-titled 6th album (if you count her twee-sounding Lady & Bird-album with Bardi Johannson which you definitely should) is her best to date. Certainly in my top 3 of 2007. I bought all her albums in Paris last year and her style has changed remarkably during the years. On albums like La Biographie de Luka Philipsen, La Disparation and to some extend Nolita she's embracing the French chanson-tradition in the vein of Jane Birkin and Francoise Hardy (and later Coralie Clement, April March, Francoiz Breut, and Emilie Simon ... among others) Shes got that characteristic wisp of voice which is both charming and, when paired with the same guitar-arrangements over and over again, a bit samey and now that Ive heard what shes capable of I wish she had experimented more on her first releases. However, Not Going Anywhere is a stunner of an album. Its in English and its quieter than her self-titled release, more like a crossover between chanson and guitar-driven singer/songwriting with strong material and a melancholic feel to it. I wouldnt call it background music, but this is really the abum you would want to listen to on a Sunday morning while reading the morning paper. Her self-titled release is much more demanding and varied. Weve got psychedelia like Mazzy Star, a bit of electronica, sheer popmusic, and fully orchestrated balladry. If you combine Feist and Charlotte Gainsbourg you have an idea of the potential here. You should definitely get this album as well as Not Going Anywhere and possibly Lady & Bird if you like male/female vocals and retro-sounding materal. Best, Leonora "After a certain age you get the face you deserve" (Joan Collins) Forfatter, mag.art. Leonora Christina Skov H.C. Xrsteds Vej 35, 3.tv., 1879 Frb. C. Tlf 38 19 03 81 / 26 85 67 27 www.leonorachristinaskov.blogspot.com > Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 13:42:54 -0700> From: jessica@viscous.org> To: ecto@smoe.org> Subject: keren ann> > A little while back, I made a pandora station called 'ecto recommends' > with seeds of a few folks recommended recently by you lovely folks.> > Just a few minutes ago it played me "Road Bin" by Keren Ann, from Not > Going Anywhere.> I really liked it and immediately went to the ectophiles guide to learn > more. Nothing there> yet though there's a marker for her. Perhaps there's been discussion of > her on ecto in the past.> > Pandora has:> > http://www.pandora.com/music/artist/keren+ann> > I will have to find more. Yum.> > If you've got more to say about her, let me know! Anyone heard the 2007 > self titled release?> > --jessica _________________________________________________________________ Fe topnice lir pe det nye Messenger Playground nu! http://www2.messengerplayground.dk/?cmp=text_forside ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 03:36:11 -0700 (PDT) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: society of imaginary friends hi.. a new discovery..society of imaginary friends "sadness is a bridge to love"..very nice ecto-ish songs. grand strings and operatic singing..huge and occasionally strange sound. very highly recommended. they have a myspace site and cdbaby has the album. also..the sarah slena-ish singer sydney wayser has a great debut album. sydneywayser.com,(warning much flash). anna ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:00:03 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: nomination; i would've preferred if someone else did it, but if no one else... For some reason, I thought the "goddess" section had been deleted. It seems to me that such a category is invariably contentious. At the same time, I never would have known to prioritize Veda Hille otherwise. tim On 4/5/08 9:50 PM, "robert bristow-johnson" wrote: > here i am listening to Lion Dreams (there is this wonderful Grand Pause around > 2:49 into the song) and still tingling from the Pummeling she gave us a week > ago. > > come on, those of us who were there a week ago Friday, isn't Noe a goddess? i > think she comes from Ectolympus but i don't see her name in: > > http://ectoguide.org/genre/goddess > > doesn't it belong there? > > -- > > r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:13:39 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: nomination; i would've preferred if someone else did it, but if no one else... Yes, the section is contentious enough that ever time it comes up for discussion the options and opinions are so all over the place I can never bring myself to do anything about it so it just stays as it was first set up. I keep telling myself there's plenty to tackle with the Guide without messing wit it--it's just too overwhelming. And yet, I don't want to just delete it. So. - --Neile On Apr 6, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Timothy Jones-Yelvington wrote: > For some reason, I thought the "goddess" section had been deleted. > > It seems to me that such a category is invariably contentious. > > At the same time, I never would have known to prioritize Veda Hille > otherwise. > > tim > > > On 4/5/08 9:50 PM, "robert bristow-johnson" > wrote: > >> here i am listening to Lion Dreams (there is this wonderful Grand >> Pause around >> 2:49 into the song) and still tingling from the Pummeling she gave >> us a week >> ago. >> >> come on, those of us who were there a week ago Friday, isn't Noe a >> goddess? i >> think she comes from Ectolympus but i don't see her name in: >> >> http://ectoguide.org/genre/goddess >> >> doesn't it belong there? >> >> -- >> >> r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com >> >> "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:06:51 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: nomination; i would've preferred if someone else did it, but if no one else... Opinions (for fun): Sarah McLachlan so totally does not belong there (altho Fumbling could be an all-time great Ecto album were there to be such a category). Laura Nyro, Rickie Lee Jones and now Noe (I'll go w/ Robert on that) so totally do. I'll also be willing to make passionate arguments on behalf of Emily Bezar, Reba Hasko and Regina Spektor. tim On 4/6/08 4:13 PM, "Neile Graham" wrote: > Yes, the section is contentious enough that ever time it comes up for > discussion the options and opinions are so all over the place I can > never bring myself to do anything about it so it just stays as it was > first set up. > > I keep telling myself there's plenty to tackle with the Guide without > messing wit it--it's just too overwhelming. > > And yet, I don't want to just delete it. > > So. > > --Neile > > On Apr 6, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Timothy Jones-Yelvington wrote: > >> For some reason, I thought the "goddess" section had been deleted. >> >> It seems to me that such a category is invariably contentious. >> >> At the same time, I never would have known to prioritize Veda Hille >> otherwise. >> >> tim >> >> >> On 4/5/08 9:50 PM, "robert bristow-johnson" >> wrote: >> >>> here i am listening to Lion Dreams (there is this wonderful Grand >>> Pause around >>> 2:49 into the song) and still tingling from the Pummeling she gave >>> us a week >>> ago. >>> >>> come on, those of us who were there a week ago Friday, isn't Noe a >>> goddess? i >>> think she comes from Ectolympus but i don't see her name in: >>> >>> http://ectoguide.org/genre/goddess >>> >>> doesn't it belong there? >>> >>> -- >>> >>> r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com >>> >>> "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:47:34 -0400 From: "Aly Fields" Subject: Re: nomination; i would've preferred if someone else did it, but if no one else... I agree with Laura Nyro being a goddess; some aspects of her music make me question her inclusion in *ecto*, however. I contend that Laurie Anderson and Mary Margaret O'Hara should be up there too (even though MMOH has only released one album it's one of the most influential independent/"girl-music" releases of all time), and Liz Fraser of the Cocteau Twins would be perfect. On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Timothy Jones-Yelvington < timjy@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Opinions (for fun): > > Sarah McLachlan so totally does not belong there (altho Fumbling could be > an > all-time great Ecto album were there to be such a category). > > Laura Nyro, Rickie Lee Jones and now Noe (I'll go w/ Robert on that) so > totally do. > > I'll also be willing to make passionate arguments on behalf of Emily > Bezar, > Reba Hasko and Regina Spektor. > > tim > > > On 4/6/08 4:13 PM, "Neile Graham" wrote: > > > Yes, the section is contentious enough that ever time it comes up for > > discussion the options and opinions are so all over the place I can > > never bring myself to do anything about it so it just stays as it was > > first set up. > > > > I keep telling myself there's plenty to tackle with the Guide without > > messing wit it--it's just too overwhelming. > > > > And yet, I don't want to just delete it. > > > > So. > > > > --Neile > > > > On Apr 6, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Timothy Jones-Yelvington wrote: > > > >> For some reason, I thought the "goddess" section had been deleted. > >> > >> It seems to me that such a category is invariably contentious. > >> > >> At the same time, I never would have known to prioritize Veda Hille > >> otherwise. > >> > >> tim > >> > >> > >> On 4/5/08 9:50 PM, "robert bristow-johnson" > >> wrote: > >> > >>> here i am listening to Lion Dreams (there is this wonderful Grand > >>> Pause around > >>> 2:49 into the song) and still tingling from the Pummeling she gave > >>> us a week > >>> ago. > >>> > >>> come on, those of us who were there a week ago Friday, isn't Noe a > >>> goddess? i > >>> think she comes from Ectolympus but i don't see her name in: > >>> > >>> http://ectoguide.org/genre/goddess > >>> > >>> doesn't it belong there? > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com > >>> > >>> "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 22:15:53 -0400 From: morayati@email.unc.edu Subject: Goddesses - my thoughts It might be helpful to think about criteria. I like criteria, so here are a few (not that anyone has to adopt these, of course, they're just brainstorming): - - Musical quality: Well, naturally. Quality is a subjective term, but I'm pretty sure all of us have a knack for spotting it. What gets tricky is the line between "quality" and "goddess quality". - - Longevity: I'm open to the possibility that, say, next month, an artist will come absolutely out of nowhere and release a goddess-caliber album, but realistically, I'd say you would have to have at least a few albums (or years, or whatever) under your belt before you qualify. - - Influence: A tough one, I'll admit, because to influence people you have to be somewhat in the public eye. Nevertheless, it can only help. I'd argue for Sarah McLachlan's inclusion, for instance, partly for influence. In my personal pantheon (which changes all the time), Kristin Hersh and Stina Nordenstam rank up there. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #448 ***************************