From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #438 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, March 28 2008 Volume 13 : Number 438 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Dar Williams - comments on If I Was a Boy ["Jill Hughes" ] Re: Dar Williams - comments on If I Was a Boy [meredith ] Re: Dar Williams - comments on If I Was a Boy ["Jill Hughes" ] introduction - hope this is okay with you all! ["Aly Fields" ] Re: introduction - hope this is okay with you all! ["Richard Messum" ] Re: introduction - hope this is okay with you all! 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Or would any of you like to offer your interpretations? Thanks! Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:30:54 -0500 From: CollectedSounds Subject: Re: Dar Williams - comments on If I Was a Boy Hi Jill (who I always still think of as Jill Dee), and everyone else! I saw Dar, well, several times, and I knew that she did talk about it at least once. So I had to look back at my reviews to see which show it was and I found two. I don't remember this all too clearly, but this is what I wrote: June 21, 2001:* *When Dar was little she was always into scaring her family. They used to take the kids to a place called Breakneck Ridge. "Don't ever take your children to a place called 'Breakneck Ridge' that's horrible!" She would do things like run up to the top of the ridge before her family got there and pretend to fall off and they would all look at her with horrified faces. She said she thought they were playing along because, 'how many times have they seen this before?'" So she was thanking her family for letting her be so macho.* "When I was a Boy" *And October 29, 2005: There was one point after a representative from the Domestic Abuse center came out and did a speech, where Dar said she was going to play a family song. I just had a feeling that *The Babysitter's Here* was coming and I was excited. But as she started introducing it, she starting talking about how she used to freak her parents out by doing crazy things, and I knew she'd changed her mind. She said, "Oh, no, I'll play this one instead", and went into *When I Was a Boy*. * ***Hope that helps!! I assume it means that when you're little, boys and girls aren't so different, it's when we get older and society puts rules on us that we become our gender. (?) Something like that? Maybe? ~Amy * * On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:25 AM, Jill Hughes wrote: > Does anyone know if Dar Williams has commented on the meaning of her song > "If I Was a Boy"? > > Or would any of you like to offer your interpretations? > > Thanks! > > Jill :D > - -- Amy Collected Sounds www.collectedsounds.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:39:52 -0400 From: "Sharon Nichols" Subject: soundtrack of my life well, today anyway: House-- Psychedelic Furs You're Beautiful-- Red House Painters Teardrop -- Massive Attack The River-- PJ Harvey One More Time-- The Cure Mistress (piano version)-- Red House Painters Hey Jupiter-- Tori Amos Winter Kills-- Yaz Nothing's Wrong-- Richard Butler Always Changing Probably-- Toad The Wet Sprocket Agaetis Byrjun-- Sigur Ros Acid, Bitter and Sad--This Mortal Coil The Gift-- Annie Lennox A Kissed Out Red Floatboat-- Cocteau Twins ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:43:53 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Dar Williams - comments on If I Was a Boy Hi, CollectedSounds wrote: > ***Hope that helps!! I assume it means that when you're little, boys and > girls aren't so different, it's when we get older and society puts rules on > us that we become our gender. (?) Something like that? Maybe? That's always how I've taken the song. Plus I did hear Dar introduce it with a similar story a couple times, back in the day. I also believe she's on record as saying it was inspired by the Jane Siberry album, she used to listen to _When I Was A Boy_ a lot and that got her thinking about the things that became the song. To this day it remains one of the best and most affecting of Dar's songs... - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:18:36 -0400 From: "Jill Hughes" Subject: Re: Dar Williams - comments on If I Was a Boy Thanks so much, Amy. ;-) That's exactly what I was looking for. Jill :D On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:30 AM, CollectedSounds wrote: > Hi Jill (who I always still think of as Jill Dee), and everyone else! > > I saw Dar, well, several times, and I knew that she did talk about it at > least once. So I had to look back at my reviews to see which show it was and > I found two. > I don't remember this all too clearly, but this is what I wrote: > > June 21, 2001:* > *When Dar was little she was always into scaring her family. They used to > take the kids to a place called Breakneck Ridge. "Don't ever take your > children to a place called 'Breakneck Ridge' that's horrible!" She would do > things like run up to the top of the ridge before her family got there and > pretend to fall off and they would all look at her with horrified faces. She > said she thought they were playing along because, 'how many times have they > seen this before?'" So she was thanking her family for letting her be so > macho.* "When I was a Boy" > > *And October 29, 2005: > There was one point after a representative from the Domestic Abuse center > came out and did a speech, where Dar said she was going to play a family > song. I just had a feeling that *The Babysitter's Here* was coming and I > was excited. But as she started introducing it, she starting talking about > how she used to freak her parents out by doing crazy things, and I knew > she'd changed her mind. She said, "Oh, no, I'll play this one instead", and > went into *When I Was a Boy*. * > > ***Hope that helps!! I assume it means that when you're little, boys and > girls aren't so different, it's when we get older and society puts rules on > us that we become our gender. (?) Something like that? Maybe? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:58:00 -0500 From: "Aly Fields" Subject: Re: soundtrack of my life All great choices there, especially Red House Painters, Peej, The Cure (one of my favourites of theirs), Annie, and the Cocteaus! I should make one and send it out. Who's up for a meme? :) On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Sharon Nichols wrote: > well, today anyway: > > House-- Psychedelic Furs > You're Beautiful-- Red House Painters > Teardrop -- Massive Attack > The River-- PJ Harvey > One More Time-- The Cure > Mistress (piano version)-- Red House Painters > Hey Jupiter-- Tori Amos > Winter Kills-- Yaz > Nothing's Wrong-- Richard Butler > Always Changing Probably-- Toad The Wet Sprocket > Agaetis Byrjun-- Sigur Ros > Acid, Bitter and Sad--This Mortal Coil > The Gift-- Annie Lennox > A Kissed Out Red Floatboat-- Cocteau Twins ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:10:00 -0500 From: "Aly Fields" Subject: introduction - hope this is okay with you all! Hey everyone, I'm new to the ecto-list... My name is Aly, I'm 18 years old (4 January 1990 is my birthday so it can be added to the registry :P), I'm a university student double majoring in English (creative writing concentration) and chemistry... I would definitely say that ecto/avant-pop is my favourite genre of music. Ever since I discovered the genius of Kate Bush (who is my favourite singer), I've become addicted to the genre and the many artists therein... Jane Siberry, Mary Margaret O'Hara, Cocteau Twins (I love 4AD artists a lot, also DCD, RHP...), more recently Happy herself and also Veda Hille, Paula Cole... loads, really. Too many to list. Other genres I like are shoegaze (cousin of ecto I think :)), jazz, hardcore punk, classical (minimalist mostly but also some baroque and Romantic), some metal, folk, electronic... Virtually anything! I've been perusing the Ectophile's Guide for years but just joined the mailing list the other day. I'm looking forward to being a part of your community, and if you want to know anything else about me (or are looking for some music recs), just let me know! - - Aly. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:41:08 -0700 (PDT) From: neile Subject: Re: introduction - hope this is okay with you all! Welcome, Aly! Good taste in music--and I love to hear that people appreciate the EctoGuide! - --Neile ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:02:19 -0500 From: "Aly Fields" Subject: Re: introduction - hope this is okay with you all! I've seen your name before! :) Thanks for the welcome :D I have more music if anyone would like to see listed at http://www.last.fm/user/poor-de-chirico - that's got what I'm listening to most on it... On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:41 PM, neile wrote: > Welcome, Aly! > > Good taste in music--and I love to hear that people appreciate the > EctoGuide! > > --Neile ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:54:17 -0500 From: "Paul Jensen" Subject: Re: introduction - hope this is okay with you all! Welcome aboard, Aly! Hope you have a good experience on ecto and find some new artists recommended to you along the way!! I see you also like Laurie Anderson, Liz Phair, 10KM.. awesome!! :) Wish my musical taste was that sophisticated at age 18.. I think I was still listening to Wilson Philips and the Sister Act soundtracks back then. :-p Paul - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "This is the time. And this is the record of the time." - -Laurie Anderson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:01:34 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: introduction - hope this is okay with you all! Wilson Phillips at least qualifies as a valid guilty pleasure, but the Sister Act soundtracks?? Yikes! On 3/27/08 5:54 PM, "Paul Jensen" wrote: > Welcome aboard, Aly! Hope you have a good experience on ecto and find some > new artists recommended to you along the way!! > I see you also like Laurie Anderson, Liz Phair, 10KM.. awesome!! :) Wish my > musical taste was that sophisticated at age 18.. I think I was still > listening to Wilson Philips and the Sister Act soundtracks back then. :-p > > Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:01:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Caldwell Subject: left hand demos Hi, I'm trying to find a copy of song #2, Don't Dream It's Over, from Happy's "Left Hand Demos". Does anyone have an mp3 they could share? Thanks! Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:36:54 -0400 From: "Richard Messum" Subject: Re: introduction - hope this is okay with you all! Not in my house! I've never understood the appeal of W-P... The fabulous one-part harmonies? The gorgeous melody-free songs? The wonderfully gormless videos? Richard (mystified) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington To: Paul Jensen ; Untitled Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: Re: introduction - hope this is okay with you all! Wilson Phillips at least qualifies as a valid guilty pleasure, ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:27:37 -0400 From: "Richard Messum" Subject: Re: left hand demos I've uploaded it to here: http://download.yousendit.com/1CB4EED70C315DC9 It's gorgeous, you'll love it. Richard - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Caldwell To: Ectophiles Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:01 PM Subject: left hand demos Hi, I'm trying to find a copy of song #2, Don't Dream It's Over, from Happy's "Left Hand Demos". Does anyone have an mp3 they could share? Thanks! Rob - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1344 - Release Date: 3/26/2008 8:52 AM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:55:42 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: introduction - hope this is okay with you all! Maybe it's generational. I couldn't get enough of "Hold On" when I was eight, and so it continues to be guiltily fun to sing along to it in a "let's jam to Paula Abdul" kind-of way. On 3/27/08 6:36 PM, "Richard Messum" wrote: > Not in my house! > > I've never understood the appeal of W-P... The fabulous one-part > harmonies? The gorgeous melody-free songs? The wonderfully gormless > videos? > > Richard (mystified) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington > To: Paul Jensen ; Untitled > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:01 PM > Subject: Re: introduction - hope this is okay with you all! > > > Wilson Phillips at least qualifies as a valid guilty pleasure, ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #438 ***************************