From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #267 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, October 3 2007 Volume 13 : Number 267 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The Brother Doobie... [Alberto ] Re: Any of my fellow old-timers remember the Klaus? ;) [neal copperman <] Re: What's the best [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] [Amanda Williams ] Re: Any of my fellow old-timers remember the Klaus? ;) [jessica koeppel ] best worst song [Adam Kimmel ] Re: The Brother Doobie... [Joseph Zitt ] Re: Any of my fellow old-timers remember the Klaus? ;) [Joseph Zitt ] Robert Plant and Alison Krauss: Raising Sand [Sherlyn Koo ] Re: Any of my fellow old-timers remember the Klaus? ;) [Timothy Jones-Ye] Re: Bob Muller in King Crimson? [Jimmy Williams ] Zeppelin??? [Jimmy Williams ] What's the best "worst" song you've ever heard? [Mark Chapman ] Re: best worst song [Timothy Jones-Yelvington ] Re: best worst song [Greg Dunn ] Re: Chicago Concerts [Carolyn Andre ] Re: Newbie Jimmy Williams ["Karen Hester" ] Re: What's the best "worst" song you've ever heard? [Doug ] [Fwd: Re: What's the best worst] [Joseph Zitt ] Ecto Trifecta [Joseph Zitt ] Re: Geniuses TJ-Y hates... ;^)~ [Alberto ] Re: best worst song [meredith ] Re: What's the best [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] [meredith ] Re: The Brother Doobie... [meredith ] The Moon Seven Times (!!) news [Neile Graham ] Re: New Zealand to Knoxville? ["Urs Stafford" ] Re: best worst song [Timothy Jones-Yelvington ] Thank you Vickie!!! Another 3rd wave Find Me has arrived ["Bill Mazur" ] Re: What's the best [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] [Timothy Jones-Yelvington ] Re: best worst song [Greg Dunn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 23:03:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Alberto Subject: Re: The Brother Doobie... - --- Greg Dunn wrote: McDonald has some capabilities that are rarely tapped... look at the amazing harmonies Becker and Fagen got out of him on several tracks of "Aja". Unfortunately, most of the time it just sounds like his vocal cords are fried. :-( - --- Doug wrote: Subject: Re: Bob Muller in King Crimson? >or anything sung by Michael McDonald... Them's fightin' words, son... - --Doug - --------- hee. OK. I was worried there might be Ectoids who'd jump to MM's defense. That's why they make chocolate AND vanilla. I've heard all the arguments, from no less an authority than Burt Bacharach, who referred to him as "the finest vocalist of our time" about 20 years ago. huh? Sorry. I just find his voice un-listenable - that "faux-setto" that creeps into Barry Gibb-at-his-worst territory (chill, you Bee Gee freaks). I'm a big Steely Dan fan but those shards of MM harmonies that pierce my eardrums and gnaw my brain in songs like "Peg" completely ruin the song for me. I like tons of singers with technically worse voices, just something about the sound of the voice he was born with... Fortunately for MM, to my ears, Billy Corgan of Smashing Pumpkins, came within ear shod in the early '90s and resoundingly mewled the crown for "Worst Rock Vocalist of Any Notoriety " from MM and has vigorously... shamelessly held off challengers since... *wondering* There can't be Ecto Pumpkin fanatics, can there? Cheers, ~Alberto "I don't know anything about music. In my line, you don't have to." ~Elvis Presley ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 23:59:01 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Any of my fellow old-timers remember the Klaus? ;) >In other news, woj and I are going to see Sheila Chandra perform >tomorrow night. > >!!! > >I am so frickin' excited about this, I can't even begin to put it into words. > >(God, I hope she doesn't suck. :}) I can't imagine her sucking. I saw her about 15 years ago and she was pretty cool. I gather she has been on a long hiatus dealing with a variety of stuff, including stage fright, so hopefully the show goes well. Post a review! It's been way too long since we've heard from her. neal np: The sounds of 3/5 of a bluegrass and folk band from the Czech Repbulic, speaking in Czech, on my front porch :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:10:21 +1000 From: Amanda Williams Subject: Re: What's the best [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] My worst: New version of Don Henley' Boys of Summer. The old one is passable, but the new one, done by a female (I haven't looked up who sings it and I have no desire to learn!) I just HATE the way old songs have been set to a dance beat, seemingly with no thought to how to best present the song. Worst original song which comes to mind is KaTe's Violin. It just makes me want to climb the walls! Otherwise i'm very fond of the Lionheart album. Amanda NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. They may contain legally privileged or copyright material. You should not read, copy, use or disclose them without authorisation. 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Unfortunately, I now have the chorus to "Speed Monkey" going round my head, as well. The Nirvana cover was a laugh --reminded me, during the "lounge core" craze from about ten minutes in the mid-90s, when someone (and I actually have it somewhere) released an easy listening version of Oasis' "Wonderwall" as a spoof and it sold extremely well; I think it even made the Xmas #1 slot. Meanwhile, my own nomination -- as "Colors of the Wind" reminded me -- is for Bette Midler's cover of "Here Comes the Flood". I've mentioned it before, but it really does fit the bill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr9OPrxK560 Trust me, it will bring tears to your eyes, especially when she starts mangling the lyrics as well as the music. Go, go, go, Speed Monkey. Adam K. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:26:44 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: The Brother Doobie... Alberto wrote: > --- Greg Dunn wrote: > McDonald has some capabilities that are rarely > tapped... look at the amazing harmonies Becker and > Fagen got out of him on several tracks of "Aja". > Unfortunately, most of the time it just sounds like > his vocal cords are fried. :-( About the only thing that I can say in his favor is that he sounds a little less like Bullwinkle than Billy Ocean does. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:40:01 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Any of my fellow old-timers remember the Klaus? ;) meredith wrote (of Joni's "Shine"): > > Speaking of covers, I was wondering how good this CD could possibly be, > with that cover. (For those who haven't seen it, it features a troupe > of modern dancers reaching Yearningly and Meaningfully toward a Very > Large Moon. It's one of those > snarf-your-latte-when-you-see-it-on-the-counter-at-Starbucks things.) I haven't seen the whole cover -- they way we sell it, there's a blue band around it obscuring most of the cover, and I wonder why. Are there nudes on it? The blue band also obscures most of the song titles on the back. One of our customers almost didn't get the disc because she thought it was an overpriced EP with only the four songs whose titles she could see on it. Actually, I've had a *lot* of customers almost-not-getting (there's probably a special verb form for that in German) a lot of the current albums that are in flimsy cardboard packaging because they think that they are singles. And they are far more easily stolen -- it looks like we will have to salute the eco-friendly packaging by putting a lot more plastic around it ourselves. > In other news, woj and I are going to see Sheila Chandra perform > tomorrow night. > > !!! > > I am so frickin' excited about this, I can't even begin to put it into > words. > > (God, I hope she doesn't suck. :}) Ooh! Ooh! I saw her at Grace Cathedral two weeks ago. Rapturously wonderful performance. Unfortunately, the opening acts were painful newage, the MC was awful ("I would like now... if I may... to introduce... an AMAZING singer... who will do some of the AMAAAZING music... from her... AMAAAAAZING... AMAAAAAAAAAAZING albums...), and much of the audience was made up of lapsed hippies who dressed in carefully, expensively pseudo-shabby clothes, walked around with ostentatiously serene gazes, and did show-offy yoga during the breaks. Eek. But Sheila Chandra's performance was worth it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 06:19:54 -0400 From: "Michael Quinn" Subject: RE: What's the best [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Nothing is more horribly annoying than "Achy Breaky Heart" by Billy Ray Cyrus. Not only is it an awful and stupid song but it gets stuck in my head every time I'm somehow forced to listen to it, ugh! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Williams Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 1:10 AM To: 'Untitled'; owner-ecto@smoe.org Subject: Re: What's the best [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] My worst: New version of Don Henley' Boys of Summer. The old one is passable, but the new one, done by a female (I haven't looked up who sings it and I have no desire to learn!) I just HATE the way old songs have been set to a dance beat, seemingly with no thought to how to best present the song. Worst original song which comes to mind is KaTe's Violin. It just makes me want to climb the walls! Otherwise i'm very fond of the Lionheart album. Amanda NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. They may contain legally privileged or copyright material. You should not read, copy, use or disclose them without authorisation. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then please delete both messages. This notice should not be removed. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:34:27 +1000 From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: Robert Plant and Alison Krauss: Raising Sand ... comes out Oct 23rd. Does anyone know anything about this - will it be worth getting? - -sherlyn ps - I've decided the new Rilo Kiley album is good... if you don't think of it as a Rilo Kiley album... :) - -- Sherlyn Koo | sherlyn@pixelopolis.com | Sydney, Australia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:21:17 -0400 From: "Pamela P." Subject: RE: best worst song 10+ year member delurking to ensure the *truly* worst song ever gets the props it deserves. :) I'm always surprised to see "Run Joey Run" by David Geddes not mentioned, other than that perhaps it wasn't as big a hit as the almost-as-abysmal "Billy Don't Be a Hero." As with previous examples, listen all the way through since the best part is toward the end (around the 2:20 mark, specifically). It's one of those '70s stories-in-a-song, so pay close attention to the lyrics. LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tDersVJ1GA Enjoy...well, maybe "survive" is a better wish. PamelaP PS: The thing that really scares me is that (gasp) I had the single. I was only 11, but that's no excuse, really, considering I was already listening to Queen by that age. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:32:37 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: Any of my fellow old-timers remember the Klaus? ;) > Actually, I've had a *lot* of customers almost-not-getting (there's > probably a special verb form for that in German) a lot of the current > albums that are in flimsy cardboard packaging because they think that > they are singles. And they are far more easily stolen -- it looks like > we will have to salute the eco-friendly packaging by putting a lot more > plastic around it ourselves. > Weird. I forget that most normal people don't go to the record store on Tuesdays with a mental list of all the new releases they're seeking and having already read several reviews for each. ~tim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 05:49:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jimmy Williams Subject: Re: Bob Muller in King Crimson? Oh, PLEASE let it be Terry Bozio!!! He did a drumming workshop for the Music Loft in Winston-Salem and was phenomenal!!! Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 06:10:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jimmy Williams Subject: Zeppelin??? Did anyone on the list get to buy tix to see Led Zeppelin? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 06:16:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Chapman Subject: What's the best "worst" song you've ever heard? "Muskrat Love" or "Afternoon Delight" - --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:26:49 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: Bob Muller in King Crimson? A work friend of mine is a big fan of Terry, and her drummer husband is friendly with him, I believe. I've heard he's really spectacular with his pitched percussion set. From what she's said, it sounds like he was really the brains behind a lot of "Missing Persons"' better moments. ~tim On 10/3/07 7:49 AM, "Jimmy Williams" wrote: > Oh, PLEASE let it be Terry Bozio!!! He did a drumming > workshop for the Music Loft in Winston-Salem and was > phenomenal!!! > > Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:28:25 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: What's the best "worst" song you've ever heard? Oh, I have another one. Has anyone heard Tywanna Jo Baskette's "Cancer"?? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:39:06 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Greg Dunn Subject: RE: best worst song I've managed to successfully push most of these songs to the back of my mind, because they truly are nasty. ;-) I can't deal with most of what is called "country music" these days, otherwise I suspect I'd have heard a lot more rubbish to nominate. :-( Whatever happened to the days of Hank Sr. and Patsy Cline, where a country song could have mature lyrics and a catchy tune - without resorting to "let's add more steel guitar, whiny vocal and banjo so it'll sound more country" production techniques? Are there still great artists out there who are drowned by the mediocre (just like every other genre) or smothered by trendy production? Oh, and checking back in on the McDonald issue - I didn't say I *liked* his voice, only that he was capable of performing some difficult vocal work. ;-) Still, there are male vocalists I find much more obnoxious and teeth-grating. - -----Original Message----- >From: "Pamela P." >Sent: Oct 3, 2007 7:21 AM >To: ecto@smoe.org >Subject: RE: best worst song > >10+ year member delurking to ensure the *truly* worst song ever gets the >props it deserves. :) > >I'm always surprised to see "Run Joey Run" by David Geddes not mentioned, >other than that perhaps it wasn't as big a hit as the almost-as-abysmal >"Billy Don't Be a Hero." > >As with previous examples, listen all the way through since the best part is >toward the end (around the 2:20 mark, specifically). It's one of those '70s >stories-in-a-song, so pay close attention to the lyrics. LOL > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tDersVJ1GA > >Enjoy...well, maybe "survive" is a better wish. > >PamelaP > > >PS: The thing that really scares me is that (gasp) I had the single. I was >only 11, but that's no excuse, really, considering I was already listening >to Queen by that age. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:48:39 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: best worst song Such as Bob Dylan, Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen. ::ducks:: On 10/3/07 8:39 AM, "Greg Dunn" wrote: > there are male vocalists I find much more obnoxious and teeth-grating. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:18:00 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: best worst song Yeah... but I can give them a wave-through because they write great stuff and have the chutzpah to stand up and deliver it themselves. When I can write better songs than Dylan, you'll hear me complaining about his vocals. :D And frankly, my ears can deal with gruff, gravelly folk vocals a lot better than those who try to sing a pure tone and end up howling (Bob Seger) or sniveling (that guy from the Counting Crows). Oh, and the vocalist from the Fray, who can't seem to pronounce consonants. Have I stomped on any feet yet? :-) - -----Original Message----- >From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington >Sent: Oct 3, 2007 9:48 AM >To: Greg Dunn , Untitled >Subject: Re: best worst song > >Such as Bob Dylan, Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen. > >::ducks:: > > >On 10/3/07 8:39 AM, "Greg Dunn" wrote: > >> there are male vocalists I find much more obnoxious and teeth-grating. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:12:59 -0500 From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Re: Chicago Concerts At 09:09 PM 10/2/2007, Timothy Jones-Yelvington wrote: >...anyone else slash Vickie planning on going to Issa in late Oct at >Schubas, Bird and the Bee in November at Schuba's, or Diamnanda Galas in >October at the MCA? I was thinking of going to Issa (even marked my calendar), but haven't bought tix yet. Regards, Carolyn Andre - --- candre@house-of-music.com Chicago, IL / USA Support Independent Music! Use the Internet http://house-of-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:34:34 -0400 From: "Karen Hester" Subject: Re: Newbie Jimmy Williams Hellow Newbie Jimmy :) Love your Hallowe'en photos. Isn't Happy Rhodes known for (once? currently?) putting together great Hallowe'en displays? Involving her monsters? Where did I read that .... Am considering a Rasputina show on the 31st, but might just go to the Greenwich parade. Guess there won't be any cute porch displays round NYC. [ps am going to Erin McKeown. Tonight going to Bloc Party] K. > So, while I am here and saying hello, I will do a > little shameless self-promotion and put out some links > for my online photo galleries: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/nighthawkjw/sets/ > (three sets, Infrared, Color, and Halloween 2006) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:35:15 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: What's the best "worst" song you've ever heard? On 10/2/07, Timothy Jones-Yelvington wrote: > ...it must be satirical, right? > > It reminds me of French and Saunders hysterical take on Shakespear's > Sister's "Stay" video. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Yje9DOBq4 Actually, the satirical factor was essential in the spirit of the thread as I started it, but as long as the song is so bad that it's good, that's OK. I'll check out that video later, when I get home... - --Doug ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:36:50 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Fwd: What's the best "worst" song you've ever heard? I'd love to know the history of her recording COTW...do you know anything about it, or much about her? Thanks! On 10/2/07, birdie wrote: > > MARLA WEINER > > She's known on BROADWAY! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:51:55 -0500 From: Carolyn Andre Subject: Re: Any of my fellow old-timers remember the Klaus? ;) At 07:32 AM 10/3/2007, tim wrote: >> Actually, I've had a *lot* of customers almost-not-getting (there's >> probably a special verb form for that in German) a lot of the current >> albums that are in flimsy cardboard packaging because they think that >> they are singles. And they are far more easily stolen -- it looks like >> we will have to salute the eco-friendly packaging by putting a lot more >> plastic around it ourselves. >> > Weird. I forget that most normal people don't go to the record store on >Tuesdays with a mental list of all the new releases they're seeking and >having already read several reviews for each. Ah, but most people don't have that EWS virus. That reminds me that I once defined my 12-step program: turn away from the record store door and take twelve steps. Regards, Carolyn Andre - --- candre@house-of-music.com Chicago, IL / USA Support Independent Music! Use the Internet http://house-of-music.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:37:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Alberto Subject: Re: Bill Rieflin in KC... That was my first thought, too, but according to Crimheads that after BR's brief upcoming tour with The Humans, he's committed to the latest R.E.M. album and tour for the next year and a half or so... Joseph Zitt wrote: My wild guess for the second drummer (not that I've been following the boards) would be Bill Rieflin, with whom Fripp has done a lot of work over the years. Alberto wrote: > Robert Fripp will be taking the Eighth incarnation of King Crimson > into the studio and on the road in 2008 and according to a current > interview with drummer Pat Mastelotto, the new line-up will be a > 5-man line-up with two drummers. Rumors abound as to that fifth > member. Mastelotto says he'll wait and let Fripp make the official > announcement, but did say it's someone he's never worked with, so > that counts out Bill Bruford. Anyway... rumors are flying in Crimson > forums and a name that has popped up as a very real possibility, due > to his association with Trey Gunn is Bob Muller... Anyone heard > anything? "I don't know anything about music. In my line, you don't have to." ~Elvis Presley - --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:20:35 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: [Fwd: Re: What's the best worst] Message-ID: <47035ECD.1030606@metatronpress.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:20:13 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Lovejoy Subject: Re: What's the best worst References: <29776886.1191375870989.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa. earthlink.net> <56AC131C992542018F73D60FA5903CAB@RobertPC> In-Reply-To: <56AC131C992542018F73D60FA5903CAB@RobertPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Lovejoy wrote: > I had to think about this a bit, but I now submit "My Sharona" by The > Knack. I have a soft spot for that song, but it may come from having had a fun time arranging it (as well as the Sex Pistol's "Pretty Vacant") for a gamelan ensemble. I might pick Paper Lace's "The Night Chicago Died." Or anything by Leo Sayer. But my vote for the most unforgivable song of all time might well be The Black Eyed Peas' "My Humps." Hearing that song brings on a sensation somewhere between having an alien burst from my chest and a visit from Dinsdale Piranha. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:47:18 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Ecto Trifecta I was surprised to see a whole lot of good CD releases in our store today, since the only one that anyone was talking about was the new Bruce Springsteen (which is really good, and may grow further on me). But the big ones for me were Siouxie's "Manta Ray", PJ Harvey's "White Chalk," and Annie Lennox's "Songs of Mass Destruction." All are stellar. Siouxie sounds like she's having a blast channeling Shirley Bassey in all the best ways. PJ Harvey's is a delicate, immersive, intimate beauty (and a harder sell, since people who are big PJ Harvey fans seems to have trouble imagining her doing something this gentle and lovely). And Annie Lennox.. well, it's a big, all-encompassing album, and I'm going to play it a lot trying to take it all in. Getting these as well as the new Happy all in the same week is a bit mind-boggling. At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised to notice that a new KaTe album had slipped in too :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:45:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Alberto Subject: Re: Geniuses TJ-Y hates... ;^)~ awwwww... C'MON! Throw in Captain Beefheart and you've got the barbershop quartet of my dreams... Timothy Jones-Yelvington wrote: Such as Bob Dylan, Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen. ::ducks:: "I don't know anything about music. In my line, you don't have to." ~Elvis Presley - --------------------------------- Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:41:57 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: best worst song Hi, Adam Kimmel wrote: > The Nirvana cover was a laugh --reminded me, during the "lounge core" craze from about ten minutes in the mid-90s, when someone (and I actually have it somewhere) released an easy listening version of Oasis' "Wonderwall" as a spoof and it sold extremely well; I think it even made the Xmas #1 slot. I think they were called The Mike Flowers Experience. :) ??? Somewhere woj and I have the video for that "Wonderwall" cover on an old VHS tape of random eMpTV stuff from that era. We would watch it over and over and marvel at its brilliance. Seriously, whoever came up with the idea to paste that concept onto that song was frickin' genius. - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:35:34 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: What's the best [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Hi, Amanda Williams wrote: > My worst: > New version of Don Henley' Boys of Summer. The old one is passable, but > the new one, done by a female (I haven't looked up who sings it and I have > no desire to learn!) I just HATE the way old songs have been set to a > dance beat, seemingly with no thought to how to best present the song. I would rather hear that version of "Boys of Summer" than No Doubt's utter bastardization of "It's My Life" (which I've only managed to hear at gas stations, fittingly enough). Sometimes I think they really need to make it a *lot* harder to get permission to do a cover. - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:39:59 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: The Brother Doobie... Hi, Alberto wrote: > Sorry. I just find his voice > un-listenable - that "faux-setto" that creeps into > Barry Gibb-at-his-worst territory (chill, you Bee Gee > freaks). I'm a big Steely Dan fan but those shards of > MM harmonies that pierce my eardrums and gnaw my brain > in songs like "Peg" completely ruin the song for me. I > like tons of singers with technically worse voices, > just something about the sound of the voice he was > born with... ... is *exactly* why I run screaming from the room whenever a Rufus Wainwright song starts playing. Thank you for helping me articulate exactly why I find his voice physically painful to hear. So many of my friends are huge Rufus fans, and they just can't understand why I simply cannot listen to him At. All. His voice and my brain are just destined never to be able to coexist, there's nothing either of us can do about it, and that's ok. :) > *wondering* There can't be Ecto Pumpkin fanatics, can > there? Aww, what's wrong with poor old Uncle Fester? ;> - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:44:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: The Moon Seven Times (!!) news - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:14:15 -0700 From: Don Gerard <> To: ectoguide@smoe.org Subject: Ectophiles' Guide - Correction Name: Don Gerard The Moon Seven Times has agreed (tentatively) to play one reunion show on Sunday, May 25, 2008. The agent/manager at the Cowboy Monkey (6 Taylor St., Champaign, Illinois - - www.cowboy-monkey.com) is currently making arrangements to confirm details regarding the show. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:01:06 -0400 From: "Urs Stafford" Subject: Re: New Zealand to Knoxville? On 10/1/07, Xenu's Sister wrote: > --- Urs Stafford wrote: > > Urs (now living in Knoxville, TN after living in New Zealand for > > aaaaaages; > > How did THAT happen? Do you miss New Zealand terribly? What > happened to some of the old NZ fans? They're going to want > to know about the album but I have no idea how to get in > touch with them. Well, I've remained in touch with Phil Sainty, so I can give you his address if you like... I think he's in touch with most of the others. > Hey, I heard from another Happy fan in Knoxville who's getting a > CD from me. Don't know if you'd have anything in common besides > Happy, but I could try and hook you up if you want (and if she > wants). Really? Wow, there are two of us here! If we convert fifteen more people, can we get Happy to do a lounge concert here? ;) (just kidding - I know that Happy only plays in NY and Philly, and hasn't done so for... ooh, years now. ;) > > back on Ecto for the first time in about ten years - whee!) > WELCOME BACK!! Why thank you ma'am. It's good to see some names I recognise from the heady days of #ecto. I miss IRC... /me waves, and goes to sit on the paisley couch. Cheers, Urs - -- If you're a real goth, where were you when we sacked Rome? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:15:19 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: best worst song Sometimes poor pronunciation is a deliberate artistic choice... Like what Rufus Wainwright does (effectively in my opinion_, to make the music more ??legato?? I think that's the right word. English can be a harsh language. ~tim On 10/3/07 9:18 AM, "Greg Dunn" wrote: > Yeah... but I can give them a wave-through because they write great stuff and > have the chutzpah to stand up and deliver it themselves. When I can write > better songs than Dylan, you'll hear me complaining about his vocals. :D > > And frankly, my ears can deal with gruff, gravelly folk vocals a lot better > than those who try to sing a pure tone and end up howling (Bob Seger) or > sniveling (that guy from the Counting Crows). Oh, and the vocalist from the > Fray, who can't seem to pronounce consonants. Have I stomped on any feet yet? > :-) > > -----Original Message----- >> From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington >> Sent: Oct 3, 2007 9:48 AM >> To: Greg Dunn , Untitled >> Subject: Re: best worst song >> >> Such as Bob Dylan, Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen. >> >> ::ducks:: >> >> >> On 10/3/07 8:39 AM, "Greg Dunn" wrote: >> >>> there are male vocalists I find much more obnoxious and teeth-grating. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:19:24 -0700 From: "Bill Mazur" Subject: Thank you Vickie!!! Another 3rd wave Find Me has arrived Hi Vickie, Our copy of Find Me arrived in the mail yesterday. Thank you again for everything you have done on behalf of Happy and for all of us! You are wonderful! Bill & Billi [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:19:32 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: Geniuses TJ-Y hates... ;^)~ They are all three fantastic songwriters and poets, and I must admit I haven't listened to Tom Waits nearly as much as I should. I do get frustrated seeing Dylan heralded at what seems to be the expense of other musicians. I get tired of all of that "voice of his generation" claptrap. Like an generation in this pluralist society could have a single voice. I've had the experience multiple times with Cohen of having a song pop out and immediately grab me on someone's record, and discovering it's one of his (usually one of his best-known). Examples include the first time I heard Buckley's Hallelujah, Dayna Kurtz's "Everybody Knows," Beth Sorrentino's take on "Famous Blue Raincoat," etc. tim On 10/3/07 9:45 AM, "Alberto" wrote: > awwwww... C'MON! > Throw in Captain Beefheart and you've got the barbershop quartet of my > dreams... > > > Timothy Jones-Yelvington wrote: Such as Bob Dylan, Tom > Waits and Leonard Cohen. > > ::ducks:: > > > > "I don't know anything about music. > In my line, you don't have to." > ~Elvis Presley > > --------------------------------- > Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:26:33 -0400 From: "Urs Stafford" Subject: Re: best worst song On 10/3/07, meredith wrote: > Adam Kimmel wrote: > > The Nirvana cover was a laugh --reminded me, during the "lounge core" craze from about ten minutes in the mid-90s, when someone (and I actually have it somewhere) released an easy listening version of Oasis' "Wonderwall" as a spoof and it sold extremely well; I think it even made the Xmas #1 slot. > I think they were called The Mike Flowers Experience. :) ??? Close. They were the Mike Flowers Pops. I think they were doing the same sort of thing as Richard Cheese & Lounge Against the Machine, but they got more airplay because of Wonderwall. Even today, I can't listen to Wonderwall. There was a point when you just could not escape the song. I didn't actively listen to the radio, and I couldn't go anywhere where it wasn't playing. Cheers, Urs. - -- If you're a real goth, where were you when we sacked Rome? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:29:42 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: What's the best [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] > I would rather hear that version of "Boys of Summer" than No Doubt's utter > bastardization of "It's > My Life" (which I've only managed to hear at gas stations, fittingly enough). > Really? It doesn't strike me as that distinct from the original. Just missing the cool synth and the seagull calls. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:02:40 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: best worst song Have you heard the Ryan Adams cover (of Wonderwall)? It's one of my favorite songs. On 10/3/07 11:26 AM, "Urs Stafford" wrote: > On 10/3/07, meredith wrote: >> Adam Kimmel wrote: >>> The Nirvana cover was a laugh --reminded me, during the "lounge core" craze >>> from about ten minutes in the mid-90s, when someone (and I actually have it >>> somewhere) released an easy listening version of Oasis' "Wonderwall" as a >>> spoof and it sold extremely well; I think it even made the Xmas #1 slot. >> I think they were called The Mike Flowers Experience. :) ??? > > Close. They were the Mike Flowers Pops. I think they were doing the > same sort of thing as Richard Cheese & Lounge Against the Machine, but > they got more airplay because of Wonderwall. > > Even today, I can't listen to Wonderwall. There was a point when you > just could not escape the song. I didn't actively listen to the radio, > and I couldn't go anywhere where it wasn't playing. > > Cheers, > Urs. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:25:21 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: best worst song I don't have a problem with legato _per se_ - one of the things I enjoy about listening to talented vocalists is how they can mold a phrase with enunciation and ornamentation (cf. Happy). What bugs me is when I'm reminded of that (hilarious but painful) scene in one of the Naked Gun movies where Frank Drebin mumbles his way through the national anthem, having forgotten most of the words. ;-) - -----Original Message----- >From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington >Sent: Oct 3, 2007 12:15 PM >To: Greg Dunn , Untitled >Subject: Re: best worst song > >Sometimes poor pronunciation is a deliberate artistic choice... Like what >Rufus Wainwright does (effectively in my opinion_, to make the music more >??legato?? I think that's the right word. English can be a harsh language. > >~tim > > >On 10/3/07 9:18 AM, "Greg Dunn" wrote: > >> Yeah... but I can give them a wave-through because they write great stuff and >> have the chutzpah to stand up and deliver it themselves. When I can write >> better songs than Dylan, you'll hear me complaining about his vocals. :D >> >> And frankly, my ears can deal with gruff, gravelly folk vocals a lot better >> than those who try to sing a pure tone and end up howling (Bob Seger) or >> sniveling (that guy from the Counting Crows). Oh, and the vocalist from the >> Fray, who can't seem to pronounce consonants. Have I stomped on any feet yet? >> :-) >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington >>> Sent: Oct 3, 2007 9:48 AM >>> To: Greg Dunn , Untitled >>> Subject: Re: best worst song >>> >>> Such as Bob Dylan, Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen. >>> >>> ::ducks:: >>> >>> >>> On 10/3/07 8:39 AM, "Greg Dunn" wrote: >>> >>>> there are male vocalists I find much more obnoxious and teeth-grating. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #267 ***************************