From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #265 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, October 2 2007 Volume 13 : Number 265 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Still picture of the shirt (Re: The 29 shirts off my back ["Xenu's Sister] Re: The 29 shirts off my back [Damon ] Re: Sometimes you just have to say...wtf? ["Xenu's Sister" ] Re: hello again [Timothy Jones-Yelvington ] Fwd: Sometimes you just have to say...wtf? ["F.J.Fornorn" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:48:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Still picture of the shirt (Re: The 29 shirts off my back For those who don't do YouTube, here's a still picture of Vadim: http://wretchawry.com/happy/Vadim2.jpg > --- Xenu's Sister wrote: > > > If anyone wants to see what the shirt looks like, Vadim > > Antonov is wearing it in this piece about the Russian > > coup attempt (it's about 52 seconds in, but watch the > > whole thing, it's fascinating): > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VAHy76QO7o ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 18:10:55 -0700 From: Damon Subject: Re: The 29 shirts off my back man... i had one of those shirts, back in the day. does that ever bring back memories. it never actually fit me, and i think it ended up leaving with an ex who did fit in it. looks like i've still got my `scrappy bitch tour' shirt though - when veda hille, kinnie starr and o susanna were touring together. now i feel old. - -damon - -- dl+ecto@usrbin.ca: protecting my real address since 2002 (too late!) > EWS starts here! < http://www.last.fm/user/kalaleq/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:10:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: Sometimes you just have to say...wtf? - --- Timothy Jones-Yelvington wrote: > Weird. > > Why Wyoming?? Don't know, but it's Wyoming State Senator Bruce Burns (R), and the other Happy fan is Wyoming State Representative Jane Warren (D). Sen. Burns saw Many Worlds in a record store in San Francisco a few years ago and bought it on a whim, because he liked the looks of it, and he liked it immediately, but he really became a fan when he saw the YouTube live clips. He doesn't know how Rep. Warren discovered Happy. He was playing MWABT in his car when taking some legislators to lunch. She recognized it as Happy immediately so she was already a fan. I love that! And yes, he's buying the 2nd CD for Rep. Warren. > On 9/30/07 5:10 AM, "Xenu's Sister" wrote: > > Not one, but TWO Wyoming State Legislators are > > Happy fans! Check out the Guestbook! Go to my > > main page site and click on View The Guestbook) > > http://wretchawry.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:39:41 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: hello again Agree completely re: Ani on pretty much all counts. With any compilation like this, there's inevitably going to be tracks you want included that were left out... Or tracks included that you question. Debating this is sort of masturbatory, like debating top ten lists and the like. But.. For the sake of indulgence (lest we forget that masturbating is pleasurable)... I think "Buildings and Bridges" could easily get bounced for something else more interesting from "Out of Range." "Letter to a John" stands out as the most classic. But I'm also a fan of the title track, "Hell Yeah," and "Love is Like Falling." The choice of "Buildings and Bridges" sort of puzzles me. It seems evident from the omissions that "Up x6," "Imperfectly" and "Dilate" are not Ani's favorite recordings (we already know via "Like I Said" that she despises her first two). Interesting, since I too have always considered them her weakest. But I do think that "Upx6's" "Angry Anymore" is one of her most accomplished bits of songwriting, and would have loved to see it included here. I'm also very partial to "To the Teeth," which is relatively unrepresented here. I'm particularly fond of "Wish I May" (one of my all-time favorite Ani songs, actually), "Back Back Back" and "Going Once." In general, she seems to have chosen not to emphasize the band leader jazz experimentation phase of her career -- "Here for Now" (which is fantastic) is really the only representation of that style. Most of the songs from these albums (Upx6 through Evolve) are her more melancholic solo-ish ballads. This is kind of too bad, since I've always been a strong defender of her oft-maligned jazz jams. At the same time, the ballads are some of the strongest most emotionally visceral material of her entire career, and she's chosen some of the best, particularly "Marrow" and "Grey." I like *some* of the new recordings. I actually think this may be the best version of "Napoleon" yet. And I understand why she doesn't like the bass-heavy production of the "Dilate" version... But... I miss some of the old vocal tics from "Shameless." I'm less enthused by "Both Hands" (just not necessary) and Your Next Bold Move and Overlap, both of which seem less emotionally committed than the originals. Like she's giving them musical makeovers (which sound great, that's not the issue) while forgetting what they're about and what makes them special. "Your Next Bold Move," as originally recorded, really accurately captured the sense of desolation (and very slight ember of hope) leftists were feeling at the dawn of the new millennium. This version feels much less meaningful. Similarly, "Overlap" is a beautiful, tentative song about intimacy. Here it feels to casual and uptempo for the kind of depth the singer is seeking. ...just my thoughts. How bout you? What else would you have included. If you were going to compile a supplemental collection called "Apocrypha," what would be on it? Here's mine... Work Your Way Out Out of Habit Gratitude Blood in the Boardroom Willing to Fight Out of Range Letter to a John Not a Pretty Girl Two Little Girls Independence Day Angry Anymore Wish I May Going Once Back Back Back What How When Where (Why Who) School Night You Each Time Recoil ~tim On 9/28/07 8:29 PM, "JoAnn Whetsell" wrote: > Hello ecto. I feel like I've been in lurker mode for since the beginning of > August. I moved across the country, started grad school (any UNC Chapel > Hill people or neighbors, please send a shout out; there are some great > concerts coming to the area soon), finally got home internet access again > (yay!) but still have no speakers (boo). Anyway, I've been catching up on > music, new and not-so-new. > > So, what I've been listening to lately: > > Ani DiFranco - Canon > 16 years of music, 16 albums of original music distilled into a 36-song, > 2-disc set. I might have made some different choices about which tracks to > include, but I can't complain about what's here. It all flows really well, > and while it doesn't cover the full range of her styles, it provides an > enjoyable trip through her career. The 5 new recordings (of previously > recorded and released songs) are all good too. The set is also > well-packaged, and it's nice to have lyrics for all the songs. I'm also > glad she didn't include one of those "this is an important artist" essays > that seem ubiquitous in retrospectives these days. It would have been nice > to hear her thoughts on her career though. > > (There's also a book, Verses, which collects some of her song lyrics > (including, I think, some unrecorded songs), sketches, and a conversation > with spoken word artist Sekou Sundiata. I don't have this but flipped > through it in a bookstore, and it seems like a nice coffee table book, > something to peruse once in a while rather than read straight through.) > > Clare Burson - Thieves > Another in-store, intrigued-by-the-cover find. Thank goodness for listening > booths. I was immediately captivated by Clara Burson's voice. This is > solid melancholy folk. Not terribly different from others in the genre > (like Jesse Sykes & the Sweet Hereafter), but not at all derivative either. > > A Fine Frenzy - One Cell in the Sea > This album popped up as a recommendation when I was looking at something > else on Amazon (though I don't remember what). I checked it out because the > artist and album titles were so intriguing. And so is the album. > Piano-based not-quite-pop. > > Jesca Hoop - Kismet > More quirky hard-to-place music, though more pop and more accessible than > Silver Screen Demos. My favorites continue to be the three re-recorded > songs from that album (Seed of Wonder, Silverscreen, and Havoc in Heaven). > I think these also remain the most original songs. Not that the new songs > are slouchers. She references more genres including trip-hop/hip-hop, and > some of the tracks are just plain fun. You might have heard "Money" in the > promos for the new ABC series Dirty Sexy Money. But then there's the > lovely, dreamlike "Love Is All We Have" about Hurricane Katrina. I keep > listening and still don't really know how to describe it. One thing I can > say: this album is all over the place, and it succeeds. > > Over the Rhine - The Trumpet Child > late-night jazz cocktail lounge feel. like you have a drink in your hand, > but because you're relaxed and life is good (not because you want to lose > yourself in alcohol). highly recommended > > JoAnn > and now, the sounds of dogs barking outside. ugh. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Its the Windows Live Hotmail. you love  on your phone! > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/mobilehotmail/default.mspx?WT.mc_ID=Mob > ileHMTagline2 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:48:25 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: hello again > Over the Rhine - The Trumpet Child > late-night jazz cocktail lounge feel. like you have a drink in your hand, > but because you're relaxed and life is good (not because you want to lose > yourself in alcohol). highly recommended This album is perfectly accomplished... With all the range, musicality and professionalism I've come to expect from OTR. But the "come on get happy" tone just isn't my favorite. It's totally a personal bias... But I like my OTR served with a sharp dose of melancholy. I'm an "Ohio" and "Drunkard's Prayer" boy through and through. I do love Karin's jazz stylings... If the whole record really were recorded in a cocktail vibe, I might be more inclined to coast on the mood... As I do listening to the excellent "Snow Angels." But there's some uptempo Americana numbers in the middle that disrupt that particular flow and demand to be listened to on their own terms. Like I said... A perfectly good record... But the first time in a while that OTR won't land a spot in my year-end favorites. ~tim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 01:00:23 -0400 From: "F.J.Fornorn" Subject: Fwd: Sometimes you just have to say...wtf? > What, none for Dick Cheney (of Wyoming fame) ? > > Bummer. We need to get to Lynne :) > > On Oct 2, 2007, at 12:10 AM, Xenu's Sister wrote: > >> --- Timothy Jones-Yelvington wrote: >> >>> Weird. >>> >>> Why Wyoming?? >> >> Don't know, but it's Wyoming State Senator Bruce Burns (R), >> and the other Happy fan is Wyoming State Representative >> Jane Warren (D). Sen. Burns saw Many Worlds in a record store >> in San Francisco a few years ago and bought it on a whim, >> because he liked the looks of it, and he liked it immediately, >> but he really became a fan when he saw the YouTube live clips. >> >> He doesn't know how Rep. Warren discovered Happy. He was playing >> MWABT in his car when taking some legislators to lunch. >> She recognized it as Happy immediately so she was already >> a fan. I love that! >> >> And yes, he's buying the 2nd CD for Rep. Warren. >> >>> On 9/30/07 5:10 AM, "Xenu's Sister" wrote: >> >>>> Not one, but TWO Wyoming State Legislators are >>>> Happy fans! Check out the Guestbook! Go to my >>>> main page site and click on View The Guestbook) >>>> http://wretchawry.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 01:11:34 -0400 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Another Find Me ...arrived today, completing its journey from Chicago to central Indiana. :-) - -- - -- | Greg Dunn | this is slowly taking me apart. | | gregdunn@indy.net | grey would be the color if i | | The Sultan of Slack(tm) | had a heart. | | http://www.indy.net/~gregdunn/ | Trent Reznor | ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #265 ***************************