From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #242 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, September 11 2007 Volume 13 : Number 242 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- BSG [anna maria "stjärnell" ] Home, with precious cargo ["Xenu's Sister" ] Today's your birthday, friends... [Mike Matthews ] Re: Ectofest ["Marcel Rijs" ] Amanda Palmer of Dresden Dolls in the AV Club [Adam Kimmel ] More Ectofest 2007 pictures ["Henning Rech" ] Re: R! R! R!... SL! SL! SL!... P! P! P!... AA! AA! AA!... [Ken Descoteaux] Re: Kate Bush - CSI [Ellen Rawson ] Re: R! R! R!... SL! SL! SL!... P! P! P!... AA! AA! AA!... [Timothy Jones-] Re: More Ectofest 2007 pictures [Timothy Jones-Yelvington ] Re: Kate Bush - CSI ["Kat Crowder" ] Re: More Ectofest 2007 pictures ["Jeffrey Burka" ] Re: Kate Bush - CSI [Timothy Jones-Yelvington ] prog or prog? [Greg Blair ] Re: It's the volume, man [DanStark <2005.carnivore99@verizon.net>] RE: Kate Bush - CSI ["Michael Quinn" ] Kate Bush songbooks [] Noe's magical and dark world ["Karen Hester" ] Re: prog or prog? [Timothy Jones-Yelvington ] Re: prog or prog? [gaseous clay ] Re: prog or prog? ["Kat Crowder" ] [OT] RE: Kate Bush - CSI [alan ] Re: prog or prog? ["Jeffrey Burka" ] Re: prog or prog? [Bernie Mojzes ] Re: prog or prog? [Greg Dunn ] Re: prog or prog? ["Jeffrey Burka" ] Re: Another (sort of) KaTe sighting, and a definitely bizarro one [alan <] Re: prog or prog? [Doug ] Re: Another (sort of) KaTe sighting, and a definitely bizarro one [Doug <] Re: Another (sort of) KaTe sighting, and a definitely bizarro one [Steve ] Re: prog or prog? [andrew fries ] Wretches Sing-Along video, and mp3 of show ["Xenu's Sister" Subject: BSG Hi all.. sounds like a great ecto fest..and on the topic of bsg..it's sci fi thus it gets seen as less serious than the west wing which it resembles in some ways.. craig pointed out on his blog that jeanette winterson doesn't want her latest book to be seen as sci fi though it clearly is. The taint of bad sci fi is heavy sadly..bsg has more intelligent commenatry on recent politcs than say many other shows..csi lost me when they tried to prove you can record sound onto clay.. mythbusters on discovery proved you can't. and besides it's a stupid idea. anna maria ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:22:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Home, with precious cargo Oh boy I'm tired. Our plane was delayed in Boston, then our bus breaks down on the way home, we stopped for food at our favorite Mexican restaurant, then we finally get home and can't find the cat and were freaking about that (turns out he was hiding and wouldn't come out and everything's fine). I put all the signed CDs in my backpack and took them on the plane as carry-on luggage. No way was I going to check them. Precious cargo, they. I have a looooooot of people to write! I wrote a few, but the bulk will get get written to in the next couple of days. I will try to get to everybody as soon as humanly possible. The CDs will cost $15. Plus postage and packing. Regarding packing... Tomorrow I'm going to Office Depot or someplace and buying bubble packs. I'll calculate the cost of them per person and add that amount as a "handling" fee. The handling fee will only include the packing material. Regarding postage: I have a kitchen scale and I weighed one CD in a bubble envelope I had around. It was just shy of 5 ounces. I'm going to calculate the shipping in advance using the United States Post Office web site postage calculator. I don't want to make anyone pay a penny more than they have to, but if that calculator is inaccurate there could be a slight difference between what I quote and what you'll see when you get the package. I'd rather err on the side of the ectophiles than charge too much. I know that I really really hate buying something on, say, ebay, getting charged a lot for postage, then getting the package and seeing that the postage is much less than what I paid. That burns me up and I don't want anyone to feel that way when they get their Find Me. I hate to do this, but based on a couple of emails I got, I think I should...just so people know, just to clarify a couple of things, because I got asked about these things in email... This is more directed to specific people than the list as a whole, I just want to get it out in the open and make sure these points are clear. 1) I am NOT taking any kind of cut as a middle man. I do this as a labor of love, to help Happy and Happy fans. Every single penny of your money goes directly to Happy. She will probably reimburse me for the packing and postage, because I will give her the exact amounts (that's what I did for the Find Me Sampler and she reimbursed me then) but otherwise my reward is the thanks of Happy fans (and Happy herself), not money over and above what the packing and shipping costs are. I do not (and would not) "work for Happy" and she does not pay me for anything fannish I do. I'd make a piss-poor employee anyway. The thought of taking money from Happy appalls the hell out of me. If Happy were ever to pay someone to do what I do for her, she could get someone much better suited for the job and who would be much better at it and do more of it than me. I'll be the first to admit that I'm so wrong in so many ways to be in the position I'm in. The fates aligned and Happy happened to get stuck with me as her uber-fan. The fates have a terrible and wicked sense of humor. I do what I can, appreciate the appreciation, and have a lot of fun. But no, I'm not getting paid to do this, and that's the way I want it. 2) If you bought the Find Me Sampler, that was its own purchase, separate from the current "pre-release" of the Find Me CD, or the upcoming "actual" release of the Find Me CD. I hate to have to say this, and I can't believe I have to say this, but at least two people have asked me about it. Buying the Sampler (or the mp3s) in no way entitles you to a free Find Me CD, or even a discount. That money was to help her pay to get the actual album finished, and it did help! The money paid for the Sampler was NOT a deposit, or a pre-payment, or whatever, for the Find Me CD. The releases are as separate as Warpaint is from Equipoise. I thought that was made VERY clear from the very beginning. If anyone happened to misunderstand that, I'm so sorry, but it's not my problem and it's certainly not Happy's problem. If anyone disagrees with that, I can't help you. That's just the way it is. Just so people know, you know? Ok, bed now, but more people will start hearing from me individually starting tomorrow afternoon. Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:00:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Sharon Nichols (no Email address) ******************** **************** Heather Russell (hrussell@bellsouth.net) ***************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Sharon Nichols Wed September 11 1963 Sic Luceat Lux Heather Russell September 11 Total Virgosity Karron Lynn Lane Tue September 14 1751 Ophelia Virgo Troy Wollenslegel Mon September 18 1972 Virgo Mark Frabotta Sun September 19 1965 Don't even THINK about parking here Joe Zitt Sat September 20 1958 Will Hack for CDs Ani DiFranco Wed September 23 1970 Virgo Lord Tyr Mon September 24 1979 Libran Paul Kim Sat October 01 1977 fetal position JoAnn Whetsell Fri October 01 1976 Pendulum Ella McCrystle Tue October 03 1967 Libra William Gill Wed October 05 1960 A wide-eyed wanderer Birdie Breeze Mon October 05 1959 OooOoooWheeee Dan Riley Sun October 08 1961 Libra Neile Graham Wed October 08 1958 pen Quenby M. Chunco Tue October 08 1968 Crunchy Frog Mike Garland Wed October 08 1952 Creature_of_the_Night Irvin Lin Tue October 09 1973 Libra Michael C. Berch Wed October 10 1956 No parking Chris Gagnon Sat October 10 1970 Libra - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:17:03 +0200 From: "Marcel Rijs" Subject: Re: Ectofest Hi, Great to read your reports etc. on Ectofest. Now I can only hope there will be an Ectofest Europe someday... (Hey, I can dream, can't I?) Kind regards, Marcel Rijs marcel.rijs@kb.nl ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:59:37 -0800 From: Adam Kimmel Subject: Amanda Palmer of Dresden Dolls in the AV Club She's in the Random Rules section.B Fans of the Dolls should take a look.... http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/random_rules_amanda_palmer [http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/random_rules_amanda_palmer] Adam K. ____________________________________________________________ FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:20:04 -0700 (PDT) From: kammerzj@peak.org Subject: It's the volume, man I first apologize for sending this on list, however can't get seem to find my "welcome to ecto" email. I *love* getting occasional emails on different artists, as well as the many personalities on this board. My interest in finding new music artists, or enjoying faves, waxes and wanes, with daily life. 30+ emails a day lately, all ecto orgin (mostly due to the recent ectofest excitement). Too much for this chickita. I noticed there is the alt.music.ecto newsgroup, unsure if that's still active. Perhaps I need to unsubscribe and look at this occasionally to get my fix. I have yahoo groups for that need in some of my occasional interests, and it's just as easy as logging into yahoo once a week. Is the ecto group available for viewing in a manner like this? I hate the options only being "off" and "on" like a faucet. I wanna keep the flow, but not have my email box overrun, ya know? Thoughts appreciated. Julie Christina aka Bubbah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:45:28 +0200 From: "Henning Rech" Subject: Re: It's the volume, man Hi Julie, you can either change your subscription to the 'digest' mode so you'll receive the mail only in large blocks, e. g. once a day. Or you may quit the list and look into the HTML archives: http://www.smoe.org/lists/ecto/ - just click on the most recent file name(s). But it is better to stay and change your subscription to the digest mode. The HOWTO is found here: http://www.smoe.org/lists/ecto.info Henning - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Ecto" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:20 AM Subject: It's the volume, man > I first apologize for sending this on list, however can't get seem to find > my "welcome to ecto" email. > > I *love* getting occasional emails on different artists, as well as the > many personalities on this board. My interest in finding new music > artists, or enjoying faves, waxes and wanes, with daily life. > > 30+ emails a day lately, all ecto orgin (mostly due to the recent ectofest > excitement). Too much for this chickita. > > I noticed there is the alt.music.ecto newsgroup, unsure if that's still > active. Perhaps I need to unsubscribe and look at this occasionally to get > my fix. > > I have yahoo groups for that need in some of my occasional interests, and > it's just as easy as logging into yahoo once a week. Is the ecto group > available for viewing in a manner like this? I hate the options only being > "off" and "on" like a faucet. > > I wanna keep the flow, but not have my email box overrun, ya know? > Thoughts appreciated. > > Julie Christina aka Bubbah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:47:07 +0200 From: "Henning Rech" Subject: More Ectofest 2007 pictures Dear all, thank you for the wonderful weekend in Boston which was a great experience. My special thanks go to Robert who made all this happen! I put some selected shots of Happys and Bobs show online - they are arranged more like a tour than like a gallery. Just click on the link below and then on the photo in the page if you want to proceed. More pics, including the after-the-show shots, will follow, but only next week as I am a bit busy now. Enjoy! Henning http://hft.fh-pforzheim.de/ectofest_2007/happy_01.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:14:55 -0400 From: Ken Descoteaux Subject: Re: R! R! R!... SL! SL! SL!... P! P! P!... AA! AA! AA!... robert bristow-johnson wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: DanStark <2005.carnivore99@verizon.net> >> >> - I was surprised to meet at least one couple in the audience who claimed to >> be fans of Happy but had no idea about the Ecto mailing list. One was a >> lovely young blonde woman who asked me where we got the name tags. Robert, >> do you know how many other off-list people may have attended, other than as >> >> > invited guests of the performers and list members?there was a guy and his wife from my work. they might not know of the ecto list. > > There were also the Digby's (he's a composer and she's an artist) from Ohio who were at the pre-show dinner, but weren't on Ecto, hadn't heard of Ecto. They were talking about MySpace, so I guess that they had directly been in contact with Vickie via her proxy Happy page. - --Ken D ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:08:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: Kate Bush - CSI - --- Timothy Jones-Yelvington wrote: > "This Woman's Bush" has also been used at least > twice by JJ Abrams -- once > on "Felicity" and once on "Alias." And remember that here in the UK, we get to hear that song a lot on TV because of the NSPCC (child protection) ad. Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:28:04 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: R! R! R!... SL! SL! SL!... P! P! P!... AA! AA! AA!... Oh, the Digbys were great. I didn't think I remembered having seen their names before. On 9/11/07 7:14 AM, "Ken Descoteaux" wrote: > robert bristow-johnson wrote: >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: DanStark <2005.carnivore99@verizon.net> >>> >>> - I was surprised to meet at least one couple in the audience who claimed to >>> be fans of Happy but had no idea about the Ecto mailing list. One was a >>> lovely young blonde woman who asked me where we got the name tags. Robert, >>> do you know how many other off-list people may have attended, other than as >>> >>> >> invited guests of the performers and list members?there was a guy and his >> wife from my work. they might not know of the ecto list. >> >> > There were also the Digby's (he's a composer and she's an artist) from > Ohio who were at the pre-show dinner, but weren't on Ecto, hadn't heard > of Ecto. They were talking about MySpace, so I guess that they had > directly been in contact with Vickie via her proxy Happy page. > > --Ken D ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:31:08 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: More Ectofest 2007 pictures Henning, these pictures are brilliant! On 9/11/07 4:47 AM, "Henning Rech" wrote: > Dear all, > > thank you for the wonderful weekend in Boston which was a great experience. > My special thanks go to Robert who made all this happen! > > I put some selected shots of Happys and Bobs show online - they are arranged > more like a tour than like a gallery. Just click on the link below and then > on the photo in the page if you want to proceed. > > More pics, including the after-the-show shots, will follow, but only next > week as I am a bit busy now. Enjoy! > > Henning > > http://hft.fh-pforzheim.de/ectofest_2007/happy_01.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:47:33 -0400 From: "robert bristow-johnson" Subject: Re: Ectofest > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marcel Rijs" > To: ecto@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Ectofest > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:17:03 +0200 > > > Great to read your reports etc. on Ectofest. > Now I can only hope there will be an Ectofest Europe someday... > (Hey, I can dream, can't I?) perhaps do more than dream about it. perhaps some folks on your side of the pond can organize, raise some seed money (that you must allow to be at risk of not coming back), and plan such an event. i can think of some European Ecto-artists, but you would have to fly Happy, Bob, and whomever other musicians over the pond and put them up. we need to revive the Ectofest tradition. - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:53:00 -0500 (CDT) From: "Kat Crowder" Subject: Re: Kate Bush - CSI Oh, dear - I just noticed in this quote of the post... What an unfortunate error in the song title! It could also have been meant to be amusing, I suppose. On Tue, September 11, 2007 2:08 am, Ellen Rawson wrote: > --- Timothy Jones-Yelvington > wrote: > >> "This Woman's Bush" has also been used at least >> twice by JJ Abrams -- once >> on "Felicity" and once on "Alias." > > And remember that here in the UK, we get to hear that > song a lot on TV because of the NSPCC (child > protection) ad. > > Ellen > - -- _ ___ _.--. \`.|\..----...-'` `-._.-'_.-'` / ' ` , __.--' )/' _/ \ `-_, / `-'" `"\_ ,_.-;_.-\_ ', fsc/as _.-'_./ {_.' ; / {_.-``-' {_/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:01:33 -0400 From: "Jeffrey Burka" Subject: Re: More Ectofest 2007 pictures timjy sez: > Henning, these pictures are brilliant! yeah, what he said! Looking at the various pics that have been posted, a few things occur to me. One, it's still very odd to see the shorter hair. Two, Happy looks so...well, incredibly happy! That pleases me a great deal. Three, I grin when I see the wedding ring on her finger. That also pleases me, what with "Chosen One" and all I really hope I get to hear some audio from the show, to go along with these visuals! jeff n.p. _Lili_, Lili Haydn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:38:23 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: Kate Bush - CSI It was a late-nite typo. Grargh. I sent a message to that effect, but it doesn't seem to have come through. On 9/11/07 9:53 AM, "Kat Crowder" wrote: > Oh, dear - I just noticed in this quote of the post... What an unfortunate > error in the song title! It could also have been meant to be amusing, I > suppose. > > On Tue, September 11, 2007 2:08 am, Ellen Rawson wrote: >> --- Timothy Jones-Yelvington >> wrote: >> >>> "This Woman's Bush" has also been used at least >>> twice by JJ Abrams -- once >>> on "Felicity" and once on "Alias." >> >> And remember that here in the UK, we get to hear that >> song a lot on TV because of the NSPCC (child >> protection) ad. >> >> Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:03:32 +0000 From: Greg Blair Subject: prog or prog? I had a conversation with Kerry White a couple of weeks ago wherein he said that the word 'prog', which I pronounce to rhyme with 'frog', should be pronounced to rhyme with 'vogue'. He said that when you say the word 'progressive' that the 'o' is long, so it should be said the same way when you use the abbreviation. So, my question for ectos and other prog rock enthusiasts is, how do YOU pronounce 'prog'? - - Gregory Peccary _________________________________________________________________ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Cafi. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:08:17 -0400 From: DanStark <2005.carnivore99@verizon.net> Subject: Re: It's the volume, man Have you considered creating a separate Ecto mailbox, and setting up a filter to direct your incoming Ecto list mail from the list directly into that one? That would keep the clutter out of your main 'In Box', and make it easier to browse through the music content at your leisure. I prefer that method to the digest as it allows you to cherry pick the posts you want to read based on the subject line if there's a thread you're not interested in. Dan At 02:20 AM 9/11/2007, kammerzj@peak.org wrote: >30+ emails a day lately, all ecto orgin (mostly due to the recent ectofest >excitement). Too much for this chickita. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:41:52 -0400 From: "Michael Quinn" Subject: RE: Kate Bush - CSI The original CSI is a good show. I used to watch every episode religiously but have got kind of bored with fictional TV in general this past year for some reason but it's a quality well done show. (CSI Miami on the other hand is total trash that I watched a few times and tried to get in to but just couldn't). They've always used good music for it too. I remember hearing "Gorecki" by Lamb on CSI which is one of my all-time favorite songs, but hardly a mainstream hit so I was pretty shocked to hear it on TV. I have never been into science fiction except for "Star Trek: The Next Generation" which I used to watch as a teenager. I can't really say I try to watch it or give it a fair chance. It just doesn't interest me much. It reminds me of the time last year I heard "King Of The Mountain" playing in the mall here (I live in a tiny town literally in the middle of nowhere), that really freaked me out quite a bit. At least it wasn't a muzak version LOL Mike - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of F.J.Fornorn Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:49 AM To: Ecto Subject: Re: Kate Bush - CSI Let's assume Tim meant "This Woman's Work" and dispel with the comments that are probably more apropos directed to the likes of Britney Spears. (Favorite line from tonight's Countdown with Keith Olbermann: They originally wanted a mirrored set for the MTV award show, but when Britney rehearsed there, she asked, Who's the fat chick?) As formulaic popcorn American TV goes, the original CSI is not too bad. Ya gotta consider the blathering hordes who do tune in to the thing. Mass appeal usually turns me off too, but some are worth tuning in to. I watch the Miami CSI too because I like to know what's hip in oversaturated gratuitous multi-frame images. I watch BG too. That is the top tier of TV viewing currently, sad that so few realize that. On Sep 11, 2007, at 12:21 AM, Timothy Jones-Yelvington wrote: > "This Woman's Bush" has also been used at least twice by JJ Abrams > -- once > on "Felicity" and once on "Alias." > > It tends to be one of the more ubiquitous Kate songs, along with > "Running up > that Hill." > > I actually reacted a little bit negatively to the CSI ad... Like > The Man > coopted Kate! Which is sort of silly, since the man already owns > Kate's > songs. > > It's definitely not a reason to watch CSI, which is totally formulaic > popcorn television. It can be satisfying when you're in the mood for > something shallow, but it's NEVER anything to go out of your way for. > > Save that for the likes of "Battlestar Gallactica." > > ~tim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 9:16:00 -0700 From: Subject: Kate Bush songbooks welll....I found KaTe Bush Complete easy...and discovered....that there were songbooks released for Lionheart...Kick Inside....etc... Back in the UseNet - Unix days...I used to buy all things KaTe from someone in Canada that had an amazing collection....it seems so long ago and far away now...lol. Anyway...then...I realised a Prefab Sprout songbook would be amazing...so far no luck....but maybe Kitchenware got one out back in the day....I may have to just search out tabs. I did find a whole slew of Prefab Sprout video's I'd never seen before over at YouTube.....check um out! Xob www.myspace.com/birdiebreeze - -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subj: Re: Kate Bush - CSI Date: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:52 am Size: 723 bytes To: Kat Crowder ; Untitled It was a late-nite typo. Grargh. I sent a message to that effect, but it doesn't seem to have come through. On 9/11/07 9:53 AM, "Kat Crowder" wrote: > Oh, dear - I just noticed in this quote of the post... What an unfortunate > error in the song title! It could also have been meant to be amusing, I > suppose. > > On Tue, September 11, 2007 2:08 am, Ellen Rawson wrote: >> --- Timothy Jones-Yelvington >> wrote: >> >>> "This Woman's Bush" has also been used at least >>> twice by JJ Abrams -- once >>> on "Felicity" and once on "Alias." >> >> And remember that here in the UK, we get to hear that >> song a lot on TV because of the NSPCC (child >> protection) ad. >> >> Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:51:55 -0400 From: "Karen Hester" Subject: Noe's magical and dark world Noe and Greta's harmonies have been growing more beautiful with each concert I see. The way their voices wind around one another's in 'Flower in time' reminds me of moments of ecstasy in polyphony. "In order to conquer the beast you first must make it beautiful", "Salve Regina", same thing. Noe the divinity scholar creates music with awe and wonder, not specifically religious but to me often close to animist/pantheist with her beasts, woods, wilds, ice dragon breath, furry hooves, apple hearts and hounding darkness. K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:20:07 -0500 From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: prog or prog? I rhyme with frog. But then, I also don't pronounce progressive with a long o. I say something more like pr-uh-gressive. In which case, I'd be saying prug. ~tim On 9/11/07 11:03 AM, "Greg Blair" wrote: > I had a conversation with Kerry White a couple of weeks ago wherein he said > that the word 'prog', which I pronounce to rhyme with 'frog', should be > pronounced to rhyme with 'vogue'. He said that when you say the word > 'progressive' that the 'o' is long, so it should be said the same way when you > use the abbreviation. So, my question for ectos and other prog rock > enthusiasts is, how do YOU pronounce 'prog'? > - Gregory Peccary > _________________________________________________________________ > Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Cafi. > http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:22:10 -0400 From: gaseous clay Subject: Re: prog or prog? one time at band camp, Greg Blair (glblair@hotmail.com) said: >So, my question for ectos and other prog rock >enthusiasts is, how do YOU pronounce 'prog'? mozilla! +w ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:29:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Kat Crowder" Subject: Re: prog or prog? I actually say "prague", which doesn't have as much of an "aw" as "frog" does. And when I say "progressive" it's more of a "prug" than a "progue". Not that I have any level of expertise of specialized knowledge to impart. I just like word pronunciation :) - -Kat On Tue, September 11, 2007 11:03 am, Greg Blair wrote: > I had a conversation with Kerry White a couple of weeks ago wherein he > said > that the word 'prog', which I pronounce to rhyme with 'frog', should be > pronounced to rhyme with 'vogue'. He said that when you say the word > 'progressive' that the 'o' is long, so it should be said the same way when > you > use the abbreviation. So, my question for ectos and other prog rock > enthusiasts is, how do YOU pronounce 'prog'? > - Gregory Peccary > _________________________________________________________________ > Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger > Cafi. > http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline > - -- _ ___ _.--. \`.|\..----...-'` `-._.-'_.-'` / ' ` , __.--' )/' _/ \ `-_, / `-'" `"\_ ,_.-;_.-\_ ', fsc/as _.-'_./ {_.' ; / {_.-``-' {_/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:36:31 -0700 (PDT) From: alan Subject: [OT] RE: Kate Bush - CSI On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Michael Quinn wrote: > The original CSI is a good show. I used to watch every episode religiously > but have got kind of bored with fictional TV in general this past year for > some reason but it's a quality well done show. (CSI Miami on the other hand > is total trash that I watched a few times and tried to get in to but just > couldn't). They've always used good music for it too. I remember hearing > "Gorecki" by Lamb on CSI which is one of my all-time favorite songs, but > hardly a mainstream hit so I was pretty shocked to hear it on TV. > > I have never been into science fiction except for "Star Trek: The Next > Generation" which I used to watch as a teenager. I can't really say I try to > watch it or give it a fair chance. It just doesn't interest me much. > > It reminds me of the time last year I heard "King Of The Mountain" playing > in the mall here (I live in a tiny town literally in the middle of nowhere), > that really freaked me out quite a bit. At least it wasn't a muzak version > LOL I have heard "How to be Invisible" in a mall store before. I thought it was pretty funny inspiring the shoplifters like that. As for current TV, I watch very little American TV. "No Reservations"and "The Daily Show" is about it. My favorite current show is "The IT Crowd". See it before they make a crappy American version of it. (And they are working on it.) The American DVD of the first season should be out any day now. Season 2 is running in the UK. > > Mike > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > F.J.Fornorn > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:49 AM > To: Ecto > Subject: Re: Kate Bush - CSI > > Let's assume Tim meant "This Woman's Work" and dispel with the > comments that are probably more apropos directed to the likes of > Britney Spears. (Favorite line from tonight's Countdown with Keith > Olbermann: They originally wanted a mirrored set for the MTV award > show, but when Britney rehearsed there, she asked, Who's the fat chick?) > > As formulaic popcorn American TV goes, the original CSI is not too > bad. Ya gotta consider the blathering hordes who do tune in to the > thing. Mass appeal usually turns me off too, but some are worth > tuning in to. I watch the Miami CSI too because I like to know what's > hip in oversaturated gratuitous multi-frame images. > > I watch BG too. That is the top tier of TV viewing currently, sad > that so few realize that. > > > On Sep 11, 2007, at 12:21 AM, Timothy Jones-Yelvington wrote: > >> "This Woman's Bush" has also been used at least twice by JJ Abrams >> -- once >> on "Felicity" and once on "Alias." >> >> It tends to be one of the more ubiquitous Kate songs, along with >> "Running up >> that Hill." >> >> I actually reacted a little bit negatively to the CSI ad... Like >> The Man >> coopted Kate! Which is sort of silly, since the man already owns >> Kate's >> songs. >> >> It's definitely not a reason to watch CSI, which is totally formulaic >> popcorn television. It can be satisfying when you're in the mood for >> something shallow, but it's NEVER anything to go out of your way for. >> >> Save that for the likes of "Battlestar Gallactica." >> >> ~tim > - -- Refrigerator Rule #1: If you don't remember when you bought it, Don't eat it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:06:31 -0400 From: "Jeffrey Burka" Subject: Re: prog or prog? greg wondered about pronouncing prog... I've always said prahg...and have never heard it pronounced any other way. It's the assonance with the rest of the phrase--prog rock--that makes it sensible (otherwise, it just makes me think of pogroms...and really, who wants to think about those?) jeff n.p. _Shteyt Oyf_, Klezmatics ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:37:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: prog or prog? me? i just wonder what other genres can sustain a lively discussion on how to pronounce their names... *grin* (i know, it's only prog & roll, but i like it) brni > greg wondered about pronouncing prog... > > I've always said prahg...and have never heard it pronounced any other > way. It's the assonance with the rest of the phrase--prog rock--that > makes it sensible (otherwise, it just makes me think of pogroms...and > really, who wants to think about those?) > > jeff > n.p. _Shteyt Oyf_, Klezmatics > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. http://brni.livejournal.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:57:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: prog or prog? "Prog" as in "program". :D Leave aside for the moment that the name is often applied to music which IMHO is (was) not progressive... - -----Original Message----- >From: Greg Blair >Sent: Sep 11, 2007 12:03 PM >To: ecto@smoe.org >Subject: prog or prog? > >I had a conversation with Kerry White a couple of weeks ago wherein he said >that the word 'prog', which I pronounce to rhyme with 'frog', should be >pronounced to rhyme with 'vogue'. He said that when you say the word >'progressive' that the 'o' is long, so it should be said the same way when you >use the abbreviation. So, my question for ectos and other prog rock >enthusiasts is, how do YOU pronounce 'prog'? >- Gregory Peccary >_________________________________________________________________ >Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Cafi. >http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:42:18 -0400 From: "Jeffrey Burka" Subject: Re: prog or prog? bernie sez: > (i know, it's only prog & roll, but i like it) This reminds me of, oh, probably a month ago when Marc and I paid a visit to the sunday farmer's market at Dupont Circle. There was a guy was busking by the Q St metro entrance that I've been seeing around busking for probably 10 years. In the early days he mostly just played harmonics, but eventually he added a mic stand and started singing along. I generally preferred his earlier stuff, but I'm guessing that he makes more money doing more traditional stuff. Anyway, this one sunday, we're getting ready to leave the market and I realize the guy's playing a song I recognize. Out of context, it took me a bar or two to recognize, but he was playing/singing "Carpet Crawlers" It *totally* made my weekend. And yeah, I forked out some cash in appreciation! jeff n.p. still _Shteyt Oyf_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:14:56 -0700 (PDT) From: alan Subject: Re: Another (sort of) KaTe sighting, and a definitely bizarro one On Mon, 10 Sep 2007, meredith wrote: > Hi, > > I'm watching PBS (Channel 13 out of NYC), and there was just a promo for the > new Ken Burns documentary, _The War_. Placebo's cover of "Running Up That > Hill" was the soundtrack. > > How utterly bizarre. The lyrics didn't even match the visuals. > > P.S. WRT the CSI promo, I now know that it was "This Woman's Work", which was > what I expected. I got the info from the "gaffa" LJ community, where I found > a rather interesting comment in that thread: "I was playing 'Wow' in my > bedroom and my little brother exclaimed excitedly that he knew that song. > It's in his Grand Theft Auto Vice City XBox game on a radio station whenever > you get into a car to drive." > > Um. > > WTF?!? Yes, Kate was on the GTA:Vice City soundtrack. Actually the soundtrack was pretty good. (I wish they would have included the talk radio stations. They were very funny.) Kind of a "best of the 80s" without much of the overplayed songs you never want to hear again. - -- Refrigerator Rule #1: If you don't remember when you bought it, Don't eat it. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:49:46 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: prog or prog? >how do YOU pronounce 'prog'? The same way I pronounce 'pr0n', albeit with a G sond in place of the N. :-) - --Doug ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:54:11 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Another (sort of) KaTe sighting, and a definitely bizarro one > Yes, Kate was on the GTA:Vice City soundtrack. Did you know that you can add your own MP3s to GTA? At least, you could with the original GTA. I was crusin' around town, blowin' away da homies with my AK while listening to Bjork's Army of Me cranked up REAL LOUD like. It wrawked, serious. Word up. - --Doug, pardon me while I do-up my laces and slip on my hoodie. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:30:25 -0700 From: Steve VanDevender Subject: Re: Another (sort of) KaTe sighting, and a definitely bizarro one Doug writes: > > Yes, Kate was on the GTA:Vice City soundtrack. > > Did you know that you can add your own MP3s to GTA? At least, you > could with the original GTA. I was crusin' around town, blowin' away > da homies with my AK while listening to Bjork's Army of Me cranked up > REAL LOUD like. > > It wrawked, serious. Word up. > > --Doug, pardon me while I do-up my laces and slip on my hoodie. That just reminded me to listen to "Army of Me" again, and then to realize that it would be a highly appropriate addition to my BOFH virtual mix tape. http://hexadecimal.uoregon.edu/~stevev/bofh.m3u It's got Happy, Kate, Jane, Kristeen Young, now Bjork, and more! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 06:19:29 +1000 From: andrew fries Subject: Re: prog or prog? Greg Blair wrote: > I had a conversation with Kerry White a couple of weeks ago wherein he said > that the word 'prog', which I pronounce to rhyme with 'frog', should be > pronounced to rhyme with 'vogue'. He said that when you say the word > 'progressive' that the 'o' is long, so it should be said the same way when you > use the abbreviation. So, my question for ectos and other prog rock > enthusiasts is, how do YOU pronounce 'prog'? I have never heard the word 'progressive' pronounced with a long 'o'. Or maybe I just didn't recognise it :) http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/progressive So yes, 'prog' as in 'program'. But the other day I was wondering about why do we always say 'rock and roll', and never 'roll and rock'? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:54:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Wretches Sing-Along video, and mp3 of show Here's the video to the Wretches Sing-Along: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8859412324151355786 Here's an mp3 of the entire concert: http://suspended-in-gaffa.com/happy/Ectofest2007_Happy_audio_09-08-07.mp3 That's the raw audio from the board feed. There are lots of silences and glitches that normally would be cut out, something I plan to do as soon as I can get to it (as well as separate the songs). This is for the die-hards who have to hear it immediately. I *do* have a wav file of the above, but it's honkin' huge, so I haven't uploaded it yet. I need to convert it to flac or shn. I will do that for the audiophile ectophiles. No more videos will be coming soon. Chris had been in the middle of a major project in Kansas City when he left to go to Boston. He had to get back right away and so left today. He was able to convert the video to standard definition, but only had time to extract that one song before he raced to catch his train. I don't know how to use his editing equipment so I can't do it. When he gets back, and I'm not sure when that will be, he'll put up more. None of the high definition footage will be seen for quite a while. Chris found out, to his chagrin, that he doesn't have the computing power to edit in high def. He's going to have to get a whole new computer system and that's not going to happen anytime soon. That's why he had to convert it to standard definition, and why the Google video (which wouldn't go on YouTube because it was too long) doesn't look all that hot after I touted how fantastic it was going to look. Ah well, we tried! :) Vickie ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #242 ***************************