From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #239 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, September 9 2007 Volume 13 : Number 239 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: So much for going to bed early... ["Bill Mazur" ] Happy Album Art [Bowen Simmons ] inexpensive lodging on Beacon Hill (dwntwn Boston) available Saturday night. ["robert bristow-johnson" ] Find me, please? [Lisa ] Re: Ectofest 2007 [birdie ] Re: Find me, please? [Bernie Mojzes ] RE: Ectofest 2007 ["Michael Quinn" ] Re: Ectofest 2007 [birdie ] RE: Rude people. [Alberto ] Bat for Lashes? [morayati@email.unc.edu] RE: ecto-digest V13 #238 [Greg Blair ] Re: Bat for Lashes? ["Jon Wesley Huff" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 00:44:46 -0700 From: "Bill Mazur" Subject: RE: So much for going to bed early... I am very sorry to hear that Happy has injured herself. With that being said... Happy was absolutely brilliant at Ectofest West under extremely difficult circumstances. My best wishes to Happy (for a quick recovery and a great show) and to all of you for a wonderful Ectofest 2007! As much as Billi and I would have loved to have been there with you, it is just impossible under our current circumstances. We also would have loved to view a webcast, but we have one of our dearest friend's surprise 40th birthday party to help out with and attend tomorrow night. We are REALLY looking forward to some YouTube action packed sequences from the show after the fact. Thank you Chris and Vickie! Love to all of you! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of meredith Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:28 PM To: ecto Subject: Re: So much for going to bed early... Hi, Xenu's Sister wrote: > Shades of Ectofest West, Happy sprained her fret hand. I think > she's gonna be ok, but give that lady some major frickin props > for going on with the show! She's going to be there, no matter > what. OK. New Rule: HAPPY IS NO LONGER ALLOWED TO USE HER HANDS FOR ANY REASON WITHIN 48 HOURS OF HER GIGS. So what if Bob has to feed her, it's only for two days and it'll ensure that the show will go on unimpeded. Only half kidding, - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 07:11:16 -0700 From: Bowen Simmons Subject: Happy Album Art is there any source for decent images (at least 300x300) of the album art for all of Happy's albums? Taking photos myself is one option, but what with cropping, alignment, color correction, etc. it's a lot of work if somebody else has already done it and can share the results. Thanks for any info! Bowen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:02:06 -0400 From: "robert bristow-johnson" Subject: inexpensive lodging on Beacon Hill (dwntwn Boston) available Saturday night. because my wife (and my kids) cannot make it to the Ectofest, (her elderly mother is declining more rapidly than she thought and she's flying to Colorado), there is available a room that i already paid for that is pissing distance from Downtown Boston, the Massachusetts Statehouse, Boston Commons, Chinatown, etc. it is in the same place that Vickie is staying on Saturday night. if someone is coming to Ectofest and has not solid overnight plans, or can cancel any reservations (with advance notice) and would like to take this humble little room (but in a great location - Beacon Hill is the hoitiest-toitiest neighborhood in Boston) with two twin beds, please let me know ASAP. self-serve breakfast comes with it. make me an offer. the first $80 takes it for sure, but i might settle for anything. what a bargain! someone, anyone, please don't let this little room in a great location go to waste. - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 09:35:04 -0400 From: "Todd Neal" Subject: Re: Last minute reminder For those of us taking the T to Haveli, it looks like the best lines to take are the #1 bus, the CT1 bus, or the Red Line. Get off at Central Square, and walk northeast up Prospect Street about 6 blocks, to the corner of Cambridge Street. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Xenu's Sister" To: "Ecto" Cc: "Douglas Alan" ; "Steve Berlin-Chavez" ; "Paul Blair" ; "Eric Brust" ; "Laura Clifford" ; "Ken Descoteaux" ; "Paul Digby" ; "foghornj" ; "wojizzle forizzle" ; "Karen Hester" ; "John Ezzard" ; "Timothy Jones-Yelvington" ; "Angelos Kyrlidis" ; "Andrew McMichael" ; "Ronald Parker" ; "Henning Rech" ; "Todd" Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:27 PM Subject: Last minute reminder > ...of where we'll be meeting before the ectofest concert > tomorrow night. > > Haveli > 1248 Cambridge (the venue, The Lily Pad, is at 1353 Cambridge) > 5:00pm (ish) > > My c'll ph (which is almost always off but will be on tomorrow > after our plane lands) is: > > 312 > 953 > 3542 > > Please bring cash and PLEASE keep track of your food bill and add > some extra for tips, k? > > Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:43:40 -0500 From: Lisa Subject: Find me, please? I'm a digest subscriber, so I didn't see Vickie's announcement until just now. I sent her an e-mail, but on the off chance that she will not be able to view it from Boston, can someone slip her my name for a Find Me CD? Meth? Anyone? I can paypal Happy (or pay in whatever is the most direct and advantageous method for Happy). Lisa (in Kansas City, which is nowhere near Boston) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 12:08:08 -0700 From: birdie Subject: Re: Ectofest 2007 Once upon a time - there were ushers in movie theatres, armed to the teeth with FLASHLIGHTS and they'd eject people if needed to get them to shut up... of course, they went away along with good movies and awesome theatres, and people who talked and used cell phones moved in....I guess, to enjoy the air conditioning. so, now we have lots of crappy movies, in crappy malls, with crappy rude people...talking. And so....lots of people just stay home now. Yep, that's how that works. I kinda love quality everything and i won't leave the house to pay to hear an audience talk. So, I say - talkers can go outside, go home or at least, if you really need to babble....do it from the stage....cos everyone is paying for it. Happy was probably just practicing with her new super squirt pump-action water rifle when she sprained her wrist...... make suyre she has some ice for after.....trammeel and arnica will help loads, too. :-) Cheers Birdie Alberto wrote: >"F.J.Fornorn" wrote: If you'd have gone around shushing us then you'd have had (at least) >4 distinct shoeprints on your butt. You would have been the one who >deserved to be ejected. As a matter of fact, watching an obsessive >fan try to impose their will on an audience would be the kind of >thing us morons would love to talk about all thru the rest of the show. >------------ > >Ectoids~ > >I don't understand why people would be so offended by a request for common courtesy. People wouldn't consider yakking through a classical performance, but have no qualms about doing so at a pop performance. Seems they're the ones imposing THEIR will on everyone. > >I've shooshed people at many a show over the years. I recall two instances specifically: A couple of women were discussing shopping during Peter Gabriel's very quiet "Mercy Street" at a show in Chicago. They were about 10 rows behind me to give you an idea of how loud they were. I stood, turned around and shouted, "Excuse me... but can you PLEASE shut up?", and the entire section applauded. > >At another performance by Cluster, whose music had a very reserved, classical feel, I turned around and asked if the two people intended to talk through the entire show. Annoyed, I asked, "Why are you even here, if not to listen?", and they looked at each other and said, "Why ARE we here?", and left... > >I've also been shooshed myself, and immediately apologized and shut up. I felt I'd been rude and thought the complainant was perfectly within their rights. > >~Alberto > > > > > >"I don't know anything about music. > In my line, you don't have to." > ~Elvis Presley > >--------------------------------- >Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 14:44:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: Find me, please? Eep, I somehow must have missed an announcement in the deluge of spam. Does anyone know if the disk will be available through other venues at a later date? 'Cause, y'know, I'll need to get more'n one... brni > I'm a digest subscriber, so I didn't see Vickie's announcement until just > now. I sent her an e-mail, but on the off chance that she will not be able to > view it from Boston, can someone slip her my name for a Find Me CD? Meth? > Anyone? I can paypal Happy (or pay in whatever is the most direct and > advantageous method for Happy). > > Lisa > (in Kansas City, which is nowhere near Boston) > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. http://brni.livejournal.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 15:44:27 -0400 From: "Michael Quinn" Subject: RE: Ectofest 2007 I always get infuriated at shows by people at a concert who would see a quiet part in a song as an excuse to start babbling. I never could understand why people would pay good money to see a band when they obviously didn't really care about listening to the music. To me it shows great disrespect to the band playing and the real fans who have came out to LISTEN to them. These seemed to me like the type of scenester people who would go to a show just to be seen and look cool. I never did more than shoot some very dirty looks at them but if I'd been blessed with the build of a football linebacker I might have been tempted to :) Mike - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of birdie Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 3:08 PM To: Alberto Cc: Ecto Subject: Re: Ectofest 2007 Once upon a time - there were ushers in movie theatres, armed to the teeth with FLASHLIGHTS and they'd eject people if needed to get them to shut up... of course, they went away along with good movies and awesome theatres, and people who talked and used cell phones moved in....I guess, to enjoy the air conditioning. so, now we have lots of crappy movies, in crappy malls, with crappy rude people...talking. And so....lots of people just stay home now. Yep, that's how that works. I kinda love quality everything and i won't leave the house to pay to hear an audience talk. So, I say - talkers can go outside, go home or at least, if you really need to babble....do it from the stage....cos everyone is paying for it. Happy was probably just practicing with her new super squirt pump-action water rifle when she sprained her wrist...... make suyre she has some ice for after.....trammeel and arnica will help loads, too. :-) Cheers Birdie Alberto wrote: >"F.J.Fornorn" wrote: If you'd have gone around shushing us then you'd have had (at least) >4 distinct shoeprints on your butt. You would have been the one who >deserved to be ejected. As a matter of fact, watching an obsessive >fan try to impose their will on an audience would be the kind of >thing us morons would love to talk about all thru the rest of the show. >------------ > >Ectoids~ > >I don't understand why people would be so offended by a request for common courtesy. People wouldn't consider yakking through a classical performance, but have no qualms about doing so at a pop performance. Seems they're the ones imposing THEIR will on everyone. > >I've shooshed people at many a show over the years. I recall two instances specifically: A couple of women were discussing shopping during Peter Gabriel's very quiet "Mercy Street" at a show in Chicago. They were about 10 rows behind me to give you an idea of how loud they were. I stood, turned around and shouted, "Excuse me... but can you PLEASE shut up?", and the entire section applauded. > >At another performance by Cluster, whose music had a very reserved, classical feel, I turned around and asked if the two people intended to talk through the entire show. Annoyed, I asked, "Why are you even here, if not to listen?", and they looked at each other and said, "Why ARE we here?", and left... > >I've also been shooshed myself, and immediately apologized and shut up. I felt I'd been rude and thought the complainant was perfectly within their rights. > >~Alberto > > > > > >"I don't know anything about music. > In my line, you don't have to." > ~Elvis Presley > >--------------------------------- >Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 12:59:17 -0700 From: birdie Subject: Re: Ectofest 2007 Yes.... One time, I went to see EBTG, and their song "Missing" had become this giant hit and so.....what happened is that all these people came to the show to hear THE HIT and they talked through the other songs.... That's what happens and when you have an act like EBTG, it sooooo sucks....cos they were pretty smooth electronica - acoustic - pop. In case anyone missed it - Tracey Thorn of ebtg, has a new CD out this summer.... out of the woods. It's totally fab! Cheers XOB Michael Quinn wrote: >I always get infuriated at shows by people at a concert who would see a >quiet part in a song as an excuse to start babbling. I never could >understand why people would pay good money to see a band when they obviously >didn't really care about listening to the music. To me it shows great >disrespect to the band playing and the real fans who have came out to LISTEN >to them. These seemed to me like the type of scenester people who would go >to a show just to be seen and look cool. I never did more than shoot some >very dirty looks at them but if I'd been blessed with the build of a >football linebacker I might have been tempted to :) > >Mike > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of birdie >Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 3:08 PM >To: Alberto >Cc: Ecto >Subject: Re: Ectofest 2007 > >Once upon a time - there were ushers in movie theatres, armed to the >teeth with FLASHLIGHTS and they'd eject people if needed to get them to >shut up... > >of course, they went away along with good movies and awesome theatres, >and people who talked and used cell phones moved in....I guess, to enjoy >the air conditioning. > >so, now we have lots of crappy movies, in crappy malls, with crappy rude >people...talking. > >And so....lots of people just stay home now. > >Yep, that's how that works. > >I kinda love quality everything and i won't leave the house to pay to >hear an audience talk. > >So, I say - talkers can go outside, go home or at least, if you really >need to babble....do it from the stage....cos everyone is paying for it. > >Happy was probably just practicing with her new super squirt pump-action >water rifle when she sprained her wrist...... > >make suyre she has some ice for after.....trammeel and arnica will help >loads, too. > >:-) > >Cheers > >Birdie > > > > > >Alberto wrote: > > > >>"F.J.Fornorn" wrote: If you'd have gone around >> >> >shushing us then you'd have had (at least) > > >>4 distinct shoeprints on your butt. You would have been the one who >>deserved to be ejected. As a matter of fact, watching an obsessive >>fan try to impose their will on an audience would be the kind of >>thing us morons would love to talk about all thru the rest of the show. >>------------ >> >>Ectoids~ >> >>I don't understand why people would be so offended by a request for common >> >> >courtesy. People wouldn't consider yakking through a classical performance, >but have no qualms about doing so at a pop performance. Seems they're the >ones imposing THEIR will on everyone. > > >>I've shooshed people at many a show over the years. I recall two instances >> >> >specifically: A couple of women were discussing shopping during Peter >Gabriel's very quiet "Mercy Street" at a show in Chicago. They were about 10 >rows behind me to give you an idea of how loud they were. I stood, turned >around and shouted, "Excuse me... but can you PLEASE shut up?", and the >entire section applauded. > > >>At another performance by Cluster, whose music had a very reserved, >> >> >classical feel, I turned around and asked if the two people intended to talk >through the entire show. Annoyed, I asked, "Why are you even here, if not to >listen?", and they looked at each other and said, "Why ARE we here?", and >left... > > >>I've also been shooshed myself, and immediately apologized and shut up. I >> >> >felt I'd been rude and thought the complainant was perfectly within their >rights. > > >>~Alberto >> >> >> >> >> >>"I don't know anything about music. >> In my line, you don't have to." >> ~Elvis Presley >> >>--------------------------------- >>Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, >> >> >news, photos & more. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 15:24:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Alberto Subject: RE: Rude people. Michael Quinn wrote: I always get infuriated at shows by people at a concert who would see a quiet part in a song as an excuse to start babbling. I never could understand why people would pay good money to see a band when they obviously didn't really care about listening to the music. birdie wrote: so, now we have lots of crappy movies, in crappy malls, with crappy rude people...talking. So, I say - talkers can go outside, go home or at least, if you really need to babble....do it from the stage....cos everyone is paying for it. - ------------- Or even more aggravating to me, Mike, is the ubiquitous howl during quiet passages of songs... the moronic tendency of some people to fill any reduction in volume with a resounding "WOOOOOOOOOOOOO". The "Look-at-me-I'm-the-biggest-fan-because-I'm-loudest" behavior. It's just so.......... brainless! I think people probably do it out of habit with no consideration of its pointlessness. And I have to agree with you, Birdie. Manners and consideration for our fellow humans are so rare these days, it's almost a shock when someone is polite. And being an American who loves many things about my country it's embarrassing that public loudness is such a uniquely American trait. I had a Canadian girlfriend for years and spent a lot of time up there and she pointed out in a full restaurant if one table is drowning out the others, you can bet it will be a table of Americans. And though I was skeptical at first, after months of observing it first-hand, she was absolutely right. Every. Single. Time. It was laughable. I won't even start on the topic of what our current administration has done for the perception of Americans worldwide... but the clichi of the "ugly American" apparently had a basis in fact long before that... As to why... who knows? Less of an emphasis on education? Media and entertainment that glorifies a "Me! Me! Me!" mentality? Arrogant chest-thumping jingoism fostered by.... ignorance? "We're American, so we can act as we please!" Everyone likes to think they're "the best", I suppose, but really... it's just depressing. Rude parents breed rude children, and if there's a solution, I certainly don't know what it is. ~Alberto "I don't know anything about music. In my line, you don't have to." ~Elvis Presley - --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 19:41:17 -0400 From: morayati@email.unc.edu Subject: Bat for Lashes? I almost never find out about new music when I'm trying to. Like today. I was browsing Google News for Kate Bush news, but realized quickly that most of the output is people comparing people to Kate. I looked through some of the reviews anyway, in case one of them would possibly be right. So. Anyway. I found out about Bat For Lashes, pseudonym for singer-songwriter Natasha Khan, and her album (from what I've heard of it) is actually really nice, although I'm not seeing the Kate comparisons. Maybe Cat Power with a more trained voice. I think. I know I want to compare this to someone but I just can't think of who...anyway. It's good stuff. I really like it. The end of this year is shaping up to be pretty good as far as new releases go. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 00:37:39 +0000 From: Greg Blair Subject: RE: ecto-digest V13 #238 I'm an Uhmerricun, but I agree that our way of writing dates is wrong. It SHOULD be in ascending order: day/month/year. But I don't see how that will ever change, what with so many years of it being the other way in our records. To change now would just be even more confusing. > On 9/7/07, Mark Chapman wrote:> >> > > I never understood the American way of writing dates...> >> > Uh ... because most people, in normal conversation, say "On September 9th..." or I was born "April 23rd...." "The ninth of November" is formal and "proper English," but "November 9th" is accepted English, too. Is that so hard to understand? (Way to be condescending, dude!) _________________________________________________________________ Gear up for Halo. 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. Its our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 21:21:52 -0500 From: "Jon Wesley Huff" Subject: Re: Bat for Lashes? I love Bat For Lashes new album. I don't get the Kate comparison either, except perhaps that she deals with some quirky topics in her songs. Great album, I'd definitely check it out. Jon On 9/8/07, morayati@email.unc.edu wrote: > I almost never find out about new music when I'm trying to. Like today. > I was browsing Google News for Kate Bush news, but realized quickly > that most of the output is people comparing people to Kate. I looked > through some of the reviews anyway, in case one of them would possibly > be right. > > So. Anyway. I found out about Bat For Lashes, pseudonym for > singer-songwriter Natasha Khan, and her album (from what I've heard of > it) is actually really nice, although I'm not seeing the Kate > comparisons. Maybe Cat Power with a more trained voice. I think. I know > I want to compare this to someone but I just can't think of > who...anyway. It's good stuff. I really like it. The end of this year > is shaping up to be pretty good as far as new releases go. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #239 ***************************