From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #238 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, September 8 2007 Volume 13 : Number 238 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] rilo kiley [anna maria "stjärnell" ] Re: Ectofest and the Issue of Toiletries [Bernie Mojzes ] FIND ME! FIND ME! FIND ME! FIND ME! FIND ME! ["Xenu's Sister" ] Re: Ectofest 2007 & toiletries [Ellen Rawson ] Re: Date formats [Bernie Mojzes ] Re: Boston weather Saturday may be 90ish... ["robert bristow-johnson" ] Last minute reminder ["Xenu's Sister" ] Re: Date formats ["Kat Crowder" ] Re: Date formats [andrew fries ] inexpensive lodging on Beacon Hill (dwntwn Boston) available Saturday night. ["robert bristow-johnson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 03:00:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ****************** Jason Gordon (gordodo@optonline.net) ******************* *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jason Gordon Tue September 07 1976 monkey collector David Blank-Edelman Sat September 09 1967 Neon Holly Tominack Thu September 10 1970 Virgo Sharon Nichols Wed September 11 1963 Sic Luceat Lux Heather Russell September 11 Total Virgosity Karron Lynn Lane Tue September 14 1751 Ophelia Virgo Troy Wollenslegel Mon September 18 1972 Virgo Mark Frabotta Sun September 19 1965 Don't even THINK about parking here Joe Zitt Sat September 20 1958 Will Hack for CDs Ani DiFranco Wed September 23 1970 Virgo Lord Tyr Mon September 24 1979 Libran Paul Kim Sat October 01 1977 fetal position JoAnn Whetsell Fri October 01 1976 Pendulum William Gill Wed October 05 1960 A wide-eyed wanderer - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 02:24:11 -0700 (PDT) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: rilo kiley Hi.. so anyone heard the new rilo kiley? what do you think? their most commercial effort yet and dejalo is horrible..but the rest is good..still prefer rabbit fur coat though. anna maria ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:46:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: Ectofest and the Issue of Toiletries This site should help you out: http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm Bernie > So this is the first time since the ban on liquids that I've traveled for > such a short trip... I only need a backpack... But if I'm not checking > anything, I don't know where on Earth to put my toiletries. And I don't have > any suitcases small enough for... Two t-shirts, two pairs of underwear and > two pairs of socks. > > Should I just buy toiletries when I get to Boston???? > > What to do!? > > Has anyone else confronted this problem???? > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. http://brni.livejournal.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:40:05 -0400 From: "Ella McCrystle" Subject: Re: Ectofest and the Issue of Toiletries > Should I just buy toiletries when I get to Boston???? Yes -- they'll have little travel sizes in the airport. > Has anyone else confronted this problem???? I recently remarked to someone that I thought the US should be able to afford the war solely on the mark-ups in tiny toiletries they sell now everywhere near airports. It's grand larceny, but here in the US, the new name for theft seems to be "patriotism." Sigh. Your other option is simply stinking... ;) Ella ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:36:52 -0400 From: "Karen Hester" Subject: Re: Ectofest 2007 & toiletries I have been known to sit on the floor reading a book between sets, and sometimes there are other people doing that too. And then there's "I'm so very interested in my drink, I'm going to stare at it for a full half hour." F.J.Fornorn wrote ... > And as for me not talking before or after, that's more of a > reflection on my benign lack of social confidence than from any > chastising here. On the Issue of Toiletries, Tim, US security looked at me oddly when I tried to show them my bottles of stuff, packed in a clear zip-lock bag (not normal plastic bag with rubber band or twisty - that isn't allowed!). I got waved through security, no one was interested. They can't ban things that people need on 12 hour international flights, and you could claim to have traveled from a distance. K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:44:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: FIND ME! FIND ME! FIND ME! FIND ME! FIND ME! CDs will be available at the show on Saturday night! Happy just got her shipment from the pressing plant, and oh boy, it was touch and go there...she didn't want me to announce anything in case she didn't get them and then people would be disappointed if she didn't have them with her. But she will! So people can go home with a brand new Noe AND a brand new Happy! New songs! Yay! Artwork! Yay! An actual, real-life, honest-to-goodness, no-kidding, believe-it-or-not, CeeeeDeeee! Yay! Here's the track listing: 1) One And Many 4:36 2) Little Brother 4:35 3) Find Me 5:13 4) She Won't Go 3:56 5) Here And Hereafter 4:18 6) Charlie 4:01 7) Can't Let Go 5:28 8) Queen 4:34 9) Treehouse 6:25 10) Chosen One 3:45 11) Fall 4:51 I think that Happy will send me home with a few boxes so I can help her send them out, the way I did with the Find Me Sampler. If anyone wants me to pick them up one, e-mail me. I'll write down names from what I get in the mail until we leave tomorrow morning. I don't want to handle money, so we'll work out with Happy about finanaces (PayPal'ing her/sending her a check), but let's work that out later. Time is short. Right now I need names. Find Me will be available at CD Baby within the next few weeks, and will be available via iTunes and some other places within the next few months. This is your chance to get it early. I'm going to be gone most of the day and will be going to bed early since we have an early flight tomorrow morning. I'll be checking my mail one last time before turning off my computer tomorrow morn. I can NOT guarantee autographs, but if I can get them, I will. FIND ME! Damn, imagine that! Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:36:50 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: FIND ME! FIND ME! FIND ME! FIND ME! FIND ME! Which purchase method brings Happy personally the biggest cut of the money? I enjoy supporting CD Baby, but I'd rather support Happy herself. Also, are there new songs on the CD? I have the Sampler but forget the track listing... - --Doug ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:41:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: FIND ME! FIND ME! FIND ME! FIND ME! FIND ME! - --- Doug wrote: > Which purchase method brings Happy personally the biggest cut of the > money? I enjoy supporting CD Baby, but I'd rather support Happy > herself. CD Baby takes $4.00 per CD. Anything gotten directly from her brings her the most money. I didn't even ask Happy how much she was going to charge. > > Also, are there new songs on the CD? I have the Sampler but forget > the track listing... There are 3 new tracks (Little Brother, Queen and Treehouse). Plus, none of the Sampler tracks were mastered, and I think some tracks are different mixes. Vickie > > --Doug ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:19:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Chapman Subject: Date formats > I never understood the American way of writing dates... Uh ... because most people, in normal conversation, say "On September 9th..." or I was born "April 23rd...." "The ninth of November" is formal and "proper English," but "November 9th" is accepted English, too. Is that so hard to understand? > it makes sense to start with the smallest unit and work upwards: > day-month-year. Or, for a computer-minded folk, do it all in a way that > allows for easy sorting, starting from the biggest unit and working downwards: > year-month-day. Blah. That's anal for no constructive reason!! It's not like using hours-minutes-seconds to display an exact time. (Although following a standard system in computer programming would, of course, be logical and necessary.) ~Mark C. - --------------------------------- Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:36:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: Ectofest 2007 & toiletries - --- Karen Hester wrote: They > can't ban things that people need on 12 hour > international flights, > and you could claim to have traveled from a > distance. From Europe, they can and do. Only 100 ml of liquid is allowed in your clear plastic bag. If you're diabetic, etc., you need a medical okay. The same goes for liquid medicines, and they may ask you to taste it. You can have more than 100ml of baby food or formula, but you may be asked to taste it. Of course, once you're past security, you can stock up on liquids, gels, etc. *sigh* Ellen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:51:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: Date formats You know, we could eliminate all this confusion if we'd switch to something sensible, like telling time in terms of seconds-from-the-epoch. So it's currently 1189183705. Everyone please adjust your watches, cellphones and calendars. Thank you brni >> I never understood the American way of writing dates... > > Uh ... because most people, in normal conversation, say "On September 9th..." or I was born "April 23rd...." "The ninth of November" is formal and "proper English," but "November 9th" is accepted English, too. Is that so hard to understand? > > > it makes sense to start with the smallest unit and work upwards: > > day-month-year. Or, for a computer-minded folk, do it all in a way that > > allows for easy sorting, starting from the biggest unit and working downwards: > > year-month-day. > > Blah. That's anal for no constructive reason!! It's not like using hours-minutes-seconds to display an exact time. (Although following a standard system in computer programming would, of course, be logical and necessary.) > > ~Mark C. > > > --------------------------------- > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. http://brni.livejournal.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:34:15 -0400 From: "robert bristow-johnson" Subject: Re: Boston weather Saturday may be 90ish... it seems that my worst fears about weather tomorrow are being confirmed. 91 degrees farenheit. thunderstorms predicted. i s'pose that means HUMID. maybe, if we're lucky we'll get an early shower that will cool down the place for the evening. or it could just create a recurring steam bath. bad timing. sorry folks. r b-j > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "robert bristow-johnson" > To: ecto@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Boston weather Saturday may be 90ish... > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:37:52 -0400 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: laura@reelingreviews.com > > To: ecto@smoe.org > > Subject: Boston weather Saturday may be 90ish... > > Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:26:22 -0400 > > > > > > the NWS says for Boston: "Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s." > > at least it won't be raining. let's hope that by 7:30, it will cool down a > little from that. depends on if the heat is from the sun or if it's from an > air mass. the former would be better than the latter. > > > ...is the Lily Pad well air conditioned? > > sorta. but maybe not adequately. it serves the stage better than the > audience (which is a useful consideration). > > > Sounds like it could be unpleasant for a full house.... > > i hope it's cooler in the evening. i think we'll have to have the storefront > door open because i think that ventilation is still what best serves us. > > -- > > r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:50:11 -0700 From: "Brian Bloom" Subject: Re: Date formats There *is* an international standard for date (and time) notation, known as ISO 8601: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 I've adopted it for all my usages (other than writing checks, which are preformatted with '____________, ____' ) It sorts right, it's unambiguous (to everyone who uses the same standard), and it's naturally intuitive and self-consistent anyway (biggest units all the way down to smallest units). Share and enjoy! mooman On 9/7/07, Mark Chapman wrote: > > > I never understood the American way of writing dates... > > Uh ... because most people, in normal conversation, say "On > September 9th..." or I was born "April 23rd...." "The ninth of November" is > formal and "proper English," but "November 9th" is accepted English, > too. Is that so hard to understand? > > > it makes sense to start with the smallest unit and work upwards: > > day-month-year. Or, for a computer-minded folk, do it all in a way > that > > allows for easy sorting, starting from the biggest unit and working > downwards: > > year-month-day. > > Blah. That's anal for no constructive reason!! It's not like using > hours-minutes-seconds to display an exact time. (Although following a > standard system in computer programming would, of course, be logical and > necessary.) > > ~Mark C. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 11:27:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Last minute reminder ...of where we'll be meeting before the ectofest concert tomorrow night. Haveli 1248 Cambridge (the venue, The Lily Pad, is at 1353 Cambridge) 5:00pm (ish) My c'll ph (which is almost always off but will be on tomorrow after our plane lands) is: 312 953 3542 Please bring cash and PLEASE keep track of your food bill and add some extra for tips, k? Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:08:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Kat Crowder" Subject: Re: Date formats *swoon* Uh-oh, I think I have a geek-crush on Brian now! ;) - -Kat On Fri, September 7, 2007 12:50 pm, Brian Bloom wrote: > > There *is* an international standard for date (and time) notation, known > as > ISO 8601: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 > > I've adopted it for all my usages (other than writing checks, which are > preformatted with '____________, ____' ) > > It sorts right, it's unambiguous (to everyone who uses the same standard), > and it's naturally intuitive and self-consistent anyway (biggest units all > the way down to smallest units). Share and enjoy! > > > > mooman > > On 9/7/07, Mark Chapman wrote: >> >> > I never understood the American way of writing dates... >> >> Uh ... because most people, in normal conversation, say "On >> September 9th..." or I was born "April 23rd...." "The ninth of November" >> is >> formal and "proper English," but "November 9th" is accepted English, >> too. Is that so hard to understand? >> >> > it makes sense to start with the smallest unit and work upwards: >> > day-month-year. Or, for a computer-minded folk, do it all in a way >> that >> > allows for easy sorting, starting from the biggest unit and working >> downwards: >> > year-month-day. >> >> Blah. That's anal for no constructive reason!! It's not like >> using >> hours-minutes-seconds to display an exact time. (Although following a >> standard system in computer programming would, of course, be logical and >> necessary.) >> >> ~Mark C. > - -- _ ___ _.--. \`.|\..----...-'` `-._.-'_.-'` / ' ` , __.--' )/' _/ \ `-_, / `-'" `"\_ ,_.-;_.-\_ ', fsc/as _.-'_./ {_.' ; / {_.-``-' {_/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 06:52:53 +1000 From: andrew fries Subject: Re: Date formats Mark Chapman wrote: > Blah. That's anal for no constructive reason!! It's not like using > hours-minutes-seconds to display an exact time. Why yes, it is exactly the same. Both deal with time... so what, would you like to represent it as minutes/hours/seconds? Wouldn't that seem absurd to you? So why should it be different when it comes to date? So yeah, I say - bring on that ISO standard. It's not completely natural for me either, but I could get behind it because it makes sense. And then, slowly, slowly, we might yet introduce you to the joys of the metric system... It's time to join the the rest of the world in 21st century, guys! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:12:51 -0400 From: "robert bristow-johnson" Subject: inexpensive lodging on Beacon Hill (dwntwn Boston) available Saturday night. this is a resend. the first one didn't seem to get reflected by the ecto list bot. r b-j > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "robert bristow-johnson" > To: Ecto > Subject: inexpensive lodging on Beacon Hill (dwntwn Boston) available Saturday night. > Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:02:06 -0400 > > > > because my wife (and my kids) cannot make it to the Ectofest, (her elderly > mother is declining more rapidly than she thought and she's flying to > Colorado), there is available a room that i already paid for that is pissing > distance from Downtown Boston, the Massachusetts Statehouse, Boston Commons, > Chinatown, etc. it is in the same place that Vickie is staying on Saturday > night. > > if someone is coming to Ectofest and has not solid overnight plans, or can > cancel any reservations (with advance notice) and would like to take this > humble little room (but in a great location - Beacon Hill is the > hoitiest-toitiest neighborhood in Boston) with two twin beds, please let me > know ASAP. self-serve breakfast comes with it. > > make me an offer. the first $80 takes it for sure, but i might settle for > anything. what a bargain! someone, anyone, please don't let this little > room in a great location go to waste. > > -- > > r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge." > - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:42:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Public transportation (Re: inexpensive lodging on Beacon Hill (dwntwn Boston) available Saturday night. - --- robert bristow-johnson wrote: > > it is in the same place that Vickie is staying on Saturday > > night. Yep! It's easy to get to the venue from there too. There are two easy ways: 1) walk across Boston Common to the Park Street station, then take the Red Line (outbound) to Central Square. From there you can either walk up Prospect street to Cambridge street, or you can take the #91 Sullivan Square bus north to Cambridge street. or 2) walk across Boston Common to the Park Street station, then take the Green Line (outbound) to the last stop, Lechmere, then take the #69 Harvard/Holyoke bus west, which goes right down Cambridge street and will drop you off right in front of the venue/restaurant. Getting back is the same but late busses aren't that common in Boston. But, it's not that far away at all from The Lily Pad and I doubt a cab would break the bank. I hope someone takes Robert up on this offer. Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:52:46 -0400 From: "robert bristow-johnson" Subject: Re: Public transportation (Re: inexpensive lodging on Beacon Hill (dwntwn Boston) available Saturday night. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Xenu's Sister" > To: Ecto > Subject: Public transportation (Re: inexpensive lodging on Beacon Hill (dwntwn Boston) available Saturday night. > Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 15:42:12 -0700 (PDT) > > > --- robert bristow-johnson wrote: > > > > it is in the same place that Vickie is staying on Saturday > night. > > Yep! It's easy to get to the venue from there too. There are two > easy ways: > > 1) walk across Boston Common to the Park Street station, then take > the Red Line (outbound) to Central Square. From there you can either > walk up Prospect street to Cambridge street, or you can take the > #91 Sullivan Square bus north to Cambridge street. > > or > > 2) walk across Boston Common to the Park Street station, then take > the Green Line (outbound) to the last stop, Lechmere, then take the > #69 Harvard/Holyoke bus west, which goes right down Cambridge street > and will drop you off right in front of the venue/restaurant. > i recommend option #1. it's a 1/2 mile walk, but that shouldn't kill anyone who is able to walk to public transportation anyway. - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 21:50:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: So much for going to bed early... I am, I am... Shades of Ectofest West, Happy sprained her fret hand. I think she's gonna be ok, but give that lady some major frickin props for going on with the show! She's going to be there, no matter what. Despite what it might look like reading ecto itself, my Inbox tells me a story that people really ARE interested in Find Me. I've got over 30 names so far, and I'll check my mail before we leave in the morning. Chris has a Treo so it's possible I might be able to check my mail at various times through tomorrow and tomorrow evening too. Write me here if you want to be on the list. I'll try my best to get your name until the very last second. Oh, the webcasting thing isn't going to happen. We never could find out about Internet or WiFi access at the venue. No one seemed too interested anyway. One person on ecto and two people on MySpace expressed interest, and that's just not enough for a peer-to-peer broadcast. So you Mac users, you're not missing out on anything after all, aren't you glad? Vickie (ready for bed) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:28:29 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: So much for going to bed early... Hi, Xenu's Sister wrote: > Shades of Ectofest West, Happy sprained her fret hand. I think > she's gonna be ok, but give that lady some major frickin props > for going on with the show! She's going to be there, no matter > what. OK. New Rule: HAPPY IS NO LONGER ALLOWED TO USE HER HANDS FOR ANY REASON WITHIN 48 HOURS OF HER GIGS. So what if Bob has to feed her, it's only for two days and it'll ensure that the show will go on unimpeded. Only half kidding, - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #238 ***************************