From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #185 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, July 18 2007 Volume 13 : Number 185 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- can't use Ani tickets (NY) ["Karen Hester" ] Re: Ectofest Quest...tions ["Xenu's Sister" ] EWS attack! [kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white)] Re: Ectofest Quest...tions ["F.J.Fornorn" ] i want to get happy! [jonathan harrison ] erratum [was: i want to get happy!] [jonathan harrison ] Re: Ectofest 2007 web site [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:50:34 -0400 From: "Karen Hester" Subject: can't use Ani tickets (NY) hiya, my bro can't use his 2 tickets to see ani di franco play in prospect park (Brooklyn) tomorrow night (wednesday, july 18). nasty work commitments. if you or someone you know would be interested in buying these tickets, please let me know - they are $44.50 each ($37 plus the $7.50 in evil ticketmaster fees).... K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:30:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: Ectofest Quest...tions - --- kerry white wrote: > Hi, I believe that Vickie n Chris had figured that one out in Philly. We didn't do the Philly ectosuite. I'm sorry but I don't remember who did. > Still haven't heard from Vickie since she announced her going to the > Efest. We'd been hosting relatives staying with us, with more relatives coming soon, so I'm way behind. We haven't yet bought our tickets and are not completely sure where we're going to stay, so I'm no help at all. I probably shouldn't have been so confident about us coming because our finances fluctuate so severely. I think we will. Goddess knows I want to, and Chris, being a huge Noe fan, wants to, but we'll have to wait and see. - --- robert bristow-johnson wrote: > > I'd like to add my congrats on the web site. > > it's Mike's. i didn't do squat. It'd help if someone gave the URL when they talked about the web site. > > One thing I noticed, though, is there was no way for people to purchase > > tickets > > this is something that i have been thinking about. so far, this has been embryonic, and i've > literally have been writing personal checks to get things to happen. i need to start up an > Ectofest 2007 account with my bank in Burlington VT, and then i will announce here an address to > send a check (fuck this TicketMaster bullshit) for $20 to (and you write it out to "Ectofest > 2007", not to me, personally) and i will mail back a *receipt* (not the same as a ticket, which > i will either hold for you or mail certified or similar, so there is some paper trail of > delivery). normally, we will hold your ticket (whatever physical instrument that will be is > still not decided - maybe i'll have my daughter make them outa construction paper!) under > whatever name you give me when securing it, at the door. i think that makes sense. What if people don't want to use the old-fashioned check method? What about using PayPal and getting a confirmation/print out by mail? What about taking credit cards online? I don't know what to tell people. > i *do* have some "fear" (perhaps i should be celebrating) of selling out this thing (audience > capacity: 80), Call me cynical, but the only way it will sell out is if the opening act has a lot of local fans/relatives. Apart from a few Ectophiles and perhaps a loose handful of other people who've somehow heard of her, Happy has no following in Boston. Ditto for Noe. I would love to be wrong, but how the heck would anybody have heard of her in Boston? She's never gotten any airplay there. I love that you want to give Ectophiles (and hopefully MySpace fans) first dibs, since if the opening act does have a big following, they could easily fill up the place and leave Happy fans out on the sidewalk. That would be bad. Vickie - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Music's the way, the only way I know... Happy Rhodes MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/happyrhodes Happy Rhodes song samples: http://wretchawry.com/happy/samples Happy Rhodes on YouTube: http://wretchawry.com/happy/rarities/videolist.html Happy Rhodes Subtitled videos: http://wretchawry.com/happy/rarities/googlevideo.html Suspended In Gaffa: http://suspended-in-gaffa.com Streaming audio: http://www.myspace.com/gaffashow - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:25:53 -0400 From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: EWS attack! Hi, I took my Ecto Withdrawal Symptoms to the CDepot near Baltimore ("Ballermore, Merlin" in local argot) and ended up with Empty Wallet Syndrome. Some not Ecto but all at used prices: American Doll Posse: T.A., Pools of Mercury (OOP)+ The Best of: The Jim Carroll Band, Music Box: Bel Canto, Before And After Science: B. Eno, World Record: Van Der Graff Generator, Live: Family, (live) Irish Tour: Rory Gallagher, Double Live: F. Marino and Mahogany Rush, BBC In Concert: Barclay James Harvest, and Between the Days: Merrill Bainbridge. While there I let them know they are not in the phone book - Thanks to Mark Chapman who sent me the phone number and directions to get there. I liked the first M. Bainbridge, and had wondered about seeing oodles and oodles of copies in $2 bins elsewhere in the past. I was very pleasantly surprised to see the Dutch copy of Before and After for less than $10! There were a lot of choices when it came to Live Rory Gallagher and Live Mahogany Rush. The store looks like it was a supermarket at one time: big parking lot and giant space for their wares. Methinks I may not have been kidding when I said I'd fly in for the concert and then go to the airport rather than spend +or-- $100 for a room. Especially after this bout of EWS. Bye, me KrW I'm Peter Pan! I'm perpetually young!! OW!! What's wrong with my back? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:46:26 -0400 From: "F.J.Fornorn" Subject: Re: Ectofest Quest...tions On Jul 17, 2007, at 8:30 PM, Xenu's Sister wrote: > It'd help if someone gave the URL when they talked about the web site. ectofest.com, of course. Also ectofest.org. > What if people don't want to use the old-fashioned check method? > What about using PayPal and getting a confirmation/print out by mail? > What about taking credit cards online? I don't know what to tell > people. We're probably going to do PayPal. Neither of us is set up for credit cards at the moment. I believe you can do PP with credit cards anyway. It looks like PP charges will add 88 cents to the price of a ticket. What I'm thinking is no physical ticket, we'll reply to the confirmation email PP sends us and then keep a list at the door. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:14:43 -0500 From: jonathan harrison Subject: i want to get happy! Oddly enough, this is neither a proposition nor a drug buy. :) It's not even an MP3 request ... I was introduced to Ecto through Tribe and from Tribe passed through the Ectoguide like the angel of death, leaving collapsed in my wake the stricken firstborn of my musical past. A quick look at the Ectoguide introduced me inevitably to the 'beautiful and fierce' -- first Kate Bush, then Jane Siberry, then Veda Hille. Of course I saw Happy Rhodes on the list; but, because (/mea culpa, mea maxima culpa/) my first forays into the Ectoguide were supported by a spate of peer-to-peer acquisitions, I had the chance to listen to Happy. I stopped pirating as well as /un/pirated, and, in a conniption of EWS (1) bought /Maria/ on the strength of /See the Child/; (2) bought /the Whole Story/ on the strength of /Babooshka/ and /Army Dreamers/; and (3) bought /spine/ on the strength of /Killzone!/ and because of my (then-current) inability to find /you do not live in this world alone/. I started digging deeper and deeper into the Guide, and my only binge EWS purchase included all of Suzanne Vega's then-current repertoire, /Miss America/, /Fumbling Towards Ecstasy/, /Hounds of Love/ and /the Red Shoes/, /Bound by the Beauty/ and /When I was a Boy/, and three of Happy's albums: /Warpaint/, /equipoise/, and /Many Worlds are Born Tonight/. To be perfectly honest I was disappointed when I listened to Happy, and I still haven't 'got' Happy -- not in the way I've got Tribe, Splashdown, /spine/, Pixies, /Fumbling Towards Ecstasy/, /Ohio/, Arson Garden, Universal Hall Pass, Sparkola, /star/, Adrienne Pierce (in roughly the listed order). In fact I've always had trouble 'getting' the quieter stuff. The only Jane Siberry albums to grab me (though not even entirely) were /Bound by the Beauty/ and /Maria/; and Suzanne Vega gets me most in /99.9 Fo/ and /nine objects of desire/. I am edging toward considering liking Hannah Fury, and I still haven't got over /the year in song/ to try to get the rest of /Miss America/. Very apparently my problem lies in my crunchier tastes; but I don't want to miss out on the flan for the sauerkraut; and my tastes have broadened considerably. The problem isn't that I find calmer music obnoxious: it's that I get bored. I /could/ ask for help understanding Jane or Mary or Hannah or much of /you do not live .../ or a lot of the calmer Kate or quieter Suzanne; but let it never be said that I don't know a gold mine when I see it. I pay frequent homage at the lesser shrines on the grounds of the Colossus of Rhodes, and now I'm considering entering the Temple itself -- though with some trepidation. I /want/ to understand Happy, because I /like/ to like music. The more artists I /get/, the better, in my opinion. I'm always waiting for the next Book or Song or Album or, in the old days, Computer Game. If Happy could become that, I'd be very pleased -- especially since I bought three CDs and it seems unfair to go against such a strong tide of intense public sentiment. And I have hope. My predilection for Tribe verges on religion: but at first they were insensible to me. Only my immense respect for the individual band members and the recommendation of a very trusted friend kept me listening, and with what a payoff! -- but months later and very gradually; in fact I kept a running list for some time of the order in which I came to like Tribe's songs. Splashdown managed to hook me on three songs (/Mayan Pilot/, /the Archer/, and /All Things/) immediately and took months to 'click'. /Ohio/ wasn't that big a hit with me for some time; and so it has always gone ... Actually /See the Child/ is the only song that has immediately sucked me in and gutted me; and only /the Whole Story/, /spine/, /Fumbling Towards Ecstasy/, and /Small Fires/ have even approached love at first sight. So I suppose there is hope for Happy -- or should I say hope for me! Here's my request: help me to like Happy. Initiate me into her secrets. I've appended a list of the tracks I have access to (the incomplete albums are thanks to Vickie). Highlight the high points of tracks, point out musical parts and textures, indicate the durations of brilliant passages, -- in short, sell me Happy and demonstrate it to me in the songs I have available to hear it in. A note though -- lyrics are nice, and lyrics are fine, and feel free to indicate what lyrics ought to be: but lyrics alone will never sell me a song. What is it about the music, about Happy's voice, about the melody, about the harmonies, that IS the Happy Rhodes who built the Colossus? I feel sometimes like I must be listening to someone other than the person mentioned on all the Guide pages. And I suppose I ought to consider this possibility: considering the crunchiness of my musical tastes, am I likely to ever 'get' Happy? I'm hoping so, and I'm hoping you can help me. If not ... tell me :( I have a friend who when he switched to Linux and suffered issues of too-new-hardware-compatibility cross-posted on all the Linux boards threatening to revert to Windows, which caused all of Linus' priests to drop their sacrifices and slave night and day to solve his problems. I'm sort of doing the same thing here, except that I can't honestly act like I /want/ to give up on Happy (or by correlation any of the other quiet-tending artists I've mentioned). I want to get Happy. And if it helps some of the moments I come closest to getting Happy are Vickie's video recordings of her live concerts. Something about the acoustic renderings of Happy's songs (which surprises me intellectually because I'm tend to not be a fan of acoustica) comes closer to clicking with me. I suppose of the studio recordings /Waking Up/, /Feed the Fire/, /Phobos/, /Wrong Century/, and /Roy (Back from the Offworld)/ come closest to clicking. Surely the priests and priestesses of Happy can't resist initiating me into the secrets -- /I've/ read all your comments in the Guide, dozens of times (especially when agonizing over which Happy albums to buy when first I did: they're not the cheapest music out there and I wanted to be /sure/ I picked the best ones). 'And the Colossus spake unto Vickie, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from New York unto Boston, which is desert. And she arose and went: and, behold, a man of Boston, an eunuch of great authority under Eric Brosius king of the guitar, who had the charge of all his treasure, and had come to New York for to worship, was returning, and sitting in his chariot listened to Happy Rhodes. Then the Colossus said unto Vickie, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot. And Vickie ran thither to him, and heard him listen to Happy Rhodes, and said, Understandest thou what thou hearest? And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me?' [me] n/p: PIXIES : Bossanova (does anyone else find /Stormy Weather/ incredibly catching?) n/r: SUZANNAH HARKER : Jonathan Norrell & Mr. Strange P.S.: here's an *.AUR directory of the Happy I own into which I can be initiated: # Happy Rhodes '>> [1991] - Warpaint \[01] - Waking Up/ \[02] - Feed the Fire/ \[03] - Murder/ \[04] - to Live in Your World/ \[05] - Phobos/ \[06] - Wrong Century/ \[07] - Lay Me Down/ \[08] - Terra Incognita/ \[09] - All Things (Mia ia io)/ \[10] - Words weren't Made for Cowards/ \[11] - Warpaint/ \[12] - in Hiding/ '> [1992] - Ecto \[03] - would That I could/ \[04] - Off from Out from Under Me/ \[05] - Project 499/ \[07] - if So/ \[08] - Ecto/ \[10] - Ode/ \[11] - don't Want to Hear It/ \[14] - Look for the Child/ \[15] - When the Rain Came Down/ '> [1992] - Rearmament \[02] - for We Believe/ \[04] - Til the Dawn Breaks/ \[06] - Friend You'll be/ \[09] - I have a Heart/ \[10] - Crystal Orbs/ \[11] - Because I Learn/ \[13] - Rhodes Waltz/ \[14] - Ally Ally Oxenfree/ '> [1992] - Rhodes I \[02] - Oh the Drears/ \[03] - Given in/ \[05] - Possessed/ \[06] - I'll Let You Go/ \[09] - Moonbeam Friends/ \[10] - I'm Not Awake I'm Not Asleep/ \[11] - the First to Cry/ \[12] - Step Inside/ \[13] - the Wretches Gone Awry/ \[15] - Suicide Song/ '> [1992] - Rhodes II \[01] - Come Here/ \[03] - Many Nights/ \[04] - Under and Over the Brink/ \[06] - Where do I Go/ \[09] - Noone Here/ \[10] - to the Funny Farm/ \[11] - Asylum Master/ \[12] - Beat It Out/ \[14] - Take Me with You/ '> [1993] - Building the Colossus \[01] - Hold Me/ \[02] - Just Like Tivoli/ \[04] - Collective Heart/ \[07] - Pride/ \[10] - Down Down/ \[11] - Big Dreams Big Life/ \[12] - Glory/ '>> [1993] - equipoise \[01] - runners/ \[02] - he will come/ \[03] - the flight/ \[04] - out like a lamb/ \[05] - save our souls/ \[06] - closer/ \[07] - temporary and eternal/ \[08] - cohabitants/ \[09] - play the game/ \[10] - mother sea/ \[11] - i say/ '> [1993] - RhodeSongs \[05] - Save Our Souls/ \[09] - Given in/ \[10] - in Hiding/ \[12] - Ashes to Ashes/ \[15] - Summer/ \[16] - Feed the Fire/ '> [1995] - the Keep \[01] - Temporary and Eternal/ \[02] - Life on Mars/ \[04] - the Yes Medley/ \[07] - for We Believe/ \[08] - Summer/ \[13] - Prey of the Strange/ '>> [1998] - Many Worlds are Born Tonight \[01] - 100 Years/ \[02] - Many Worlds are Born Tonight/ \[03] - the Chariot/ \[04] - Ra is a Busy God/ \[05] - if Wishes were Horses, How Beggars would Ride/ \[06] - Roy (Back from the Offworld)/ \[07] - Tragic/ \[08] - Proof/ \[09] - Looking Over Cliffs/ \[10] - Winter/ \[11] - Serenading Genius/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:30:06 -0500 From: jonathan harrison Subject: erratum [was: i want to get happy!] 2007.07.17(U).23.14.43(-0500);jonathan harrison,;"i want to get happy!": > Of course I saw Happy Rhodes on the list; but, because (/mea > culpa, mea maxima culpa/) my first forays into the Ectoguide > were supported by a spate of peer-to-peer acquisitions, I > had the chance to listen to Happy. The last line should of course read "never had the chance to listen to Happy." [me] np: PIXIES : Surfer Rosa nr: SUZANNAH HARKER : Jonathan Norrell & Mr. Strange ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:49:08 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Ectofest 2007 web site Oh, and... robert bristow-johnson wrote: > http://www.lily-pad.net/archives/2007/09/index.html ... kudos to Robert for coming up with the best, most succinct definition of "ecto" I've ever seen. - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:45:53 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Ectofest 2007 web site Hi, robert bristow-johnson wrote: >>One thing I noticed, though, is there was no way for people to purchase >>tickets Is the venue even set up to handle advance ticketing? Ticketing is handled by the venue, not the promoter. If the Lily Pad doesn't do advance ticketing, then I'm afraid you're SOL. The best you can do is take RSVPs from folks in advance, and reserve tables or chairs for them inside before the doors open. You won't be collecting any money in advance, but you'll have somewhat of an idea how many people to expect. If they do offer advance ticketing, then you'll need to find out how they handle it and work it out that way. Believe me, you'll be happy not to have to deal with that yourself!! It's a massive pain in the ass, not to mention if you handle the incoming money yourself you can open yourself up to tax nastiness that's better kept on the venue's plate and well off of yours. > i *know* i'll make it so that people can come and go easily (you'll take a re-entrance pass with you when you leave, This is what handstamps are for. No need for passes or anything like that to kill unnecessary trees. - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #185 ***************************