From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V13 #96 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, April 17 2007 Volume 13 : Number 096 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Internet Radio royalty update [2005.carnivore99@verizon.net] VdGG in London -- for the progheads out there. [adamk@zoom.co.uk] RE: My first Happy experience ["Mark B" ] Re: Thanks & The Bird and the Bee ["JoAnn Whetsell" ] Tori Amos - American Doll Posse. ["Marc McLaren" ] RE: Tori Amos - American Doll Posse. ["JoAnn Whetsell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 03:00:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Michael Klouda (no Email address) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael Klouda Mon April 17 1967 Aries Noe Venable Tue April 20 1976 Aries Harry Foster Sat April 21 1956 NiceGuy Kjetil Torgrim Homme Thu April 23 1970 Taurus Jeff Burka Thu April 24 1969 GoFlyAKite Christine Waite Tue April 25 1972 Taurus Matt Adams Thu April 26 1962 Taurus Brad Hutchinson Tue April 28 1964 What sign? Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus Marty Lash Sat May 01 1948 Taurus Barney Parker Fri May 02 1986 happy cat Gray Abbott Tue May 03 1955 Suprised Tamar Boursalian Tue May 03 1966 Taurus Richard A. Holmes May 07 Taurus Steve Ito Fri May 08 1970 DA Bull... Brian Gregory Thu May 09 1963 Eclectic Catherine Sundnes Sat May 09 1970 Very Catzy Heidi Maier Wed May 10 1978 Taurus Kris the boy Fri May 11 1979 Taurus Patrick Varker Wed May 12 1954 Torius Philip David Morgan Sat May 12 1962 Chinese Tiger in Bull Clothing Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:11:26 -0400 From: 2005.carnivore99@verizon.net Subject: Internet Radio royalty update Sad news making the rounds tonight. I'll quote Slashdot which seems to sum it up pretty well: The Copyright Royalty Board has rejected a request to reconsider its March decision to impose an onerous royalty schedule on Internet radio broadcasters. '"None of the moving parties have [sic] made a sufficient showing of new evidence or clear error or manifest injustice that would warrant rehearing," wrote the CRB in its decision.' The recording industry and its royalty collection organization SoundExchange are jubilant over the ruling. '"Our artists and labels look forward to working with the Internet radio industry - large and small, commercial and noncommercial - so that together we can ensure it succeeds as a place where great music is available to music lovers of all genres," said SoundExchange head Simson in a statement. Noble words, but after today's ruling - which will take effect on May 15 unless the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit agrees to hear an appeal - there probably won't be much of an Internet radio industry left for SoundExchange to work with. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:49:32 +0100 From: adamk@zoom.co.uk Subject: VdGG in London -- for the progheads out there. Hmmm...Van der Graaf Generator. Granted, the VdGG experience has soured a bit for me with the abrupt sacking of David Jackson, core member and long-time sax and flute player, and last night they took the stage of the Barbican down to a trio, and his absence was felt, at least for the first few songs. As they battered their way through "Childlike Faith..." and "In the Black Room" it definitely felt, to me, as if something was missing, some textural hole that they were attempting to fill by sheer force of will and noise. Sitting second row centre didn't help, I have to admit, but while it was great to see them that close, it just wasn't grabbing me. And then they played "Gog", from Hammill's "In Camera", and the only response I could give was "BLOODY HELL!!!!". Which was exactly like it seemed. But in a good way. It's far from my favourite piece, but suddenly PH's voice came into its own, the whole thing seemed to come alive in the classic, seething, frightening way. A great version of "The Sleepwalkers", complete with a subtle new arrangement, "Meurglys III", probably my least fave VdGG track, was still impressive, a couple of very interesting sounding new tunes, a cracking, visceral version of "Man Erg" and, as an encore, "Still Life", all made for, ultimately, quite an evening. All IMHO, of course. adam k. - ----------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://webmail.zoom.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:14:13 -0400 From: "Mark B" Subject: RE: My first Happy experience While reading everyone else's stories I realize how lucky I actually was with my first experience. I had worked in a music store that begat a chain takeover (will remain nameless for lack of advertising on their part) and I saw a man come in with a road case covered in stickers. I didn't wait on him because my manager at the time told me she thought the guy must work for Hall and Oates as they were in town that night...that's why I didn't wait on him I then worked at a now defunct Mom and Pop record store in Albany, NY called the Music Shack. The same guy walked in one day and introduced himslef as Kevin Bartlett telling me he had some cassettes and newly pressed CDs to drop off to sell on consignment. I told him the Hall and Oates story and we had a chuckle. I asked who Happy was and he told me about her and his contributions to the music and production. He also told me to go ahead and open one of each CD to listen to in the store. All the CD titles through Warpaint with the extra tracks...all at the same time. The next time he came in there was hadly any stock left when he talked to the store owner. He told Kevin that I had been playing them and they always sold a copy or two every time she came on. I was hooked on the music and worked with Kevin after that directly as it was the only local music to ever sell more that one or two copies after collecting dust on our shelves. Kevin came in one day and gave me my own copies of the CDs and we have been great friends up until this very day. I got a wealth of new incredible music all at once. I have seen him both with Happy and solo as many times as I can and can tell you he is a great musician and an even greater person. I have spent time in his studio (Aural Gratification) and apprenticed a bit under him. The music he has produced and played on still is in heavy rotation on all my players. I am looking forward to his new release that is near completion. _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:31:20 -0400 From: "JoAnn Whetsell" Subject: Re: Thanks & The Bird and the Bee It's funny, I've been meaning to post about The Bird and The Bee and some other stuff I discovered on NPR. My reaction is similar to Leonora's. Never really got into Inara George's debut, but I LOVE this album. NPR story on The Bird and the Bee at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=7863003 Live concert, with Lily Allen, at http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9348709 Peggy Honeywell is another artist I discovered at NPR. She makes soft, quirky, folk music. Sort of. I've been enjoying her new album, Faint Humms. I thought I discovered her on NPR, but can't find any info about her there. Her website is http://www.peggyhoneywell.com/ JoAnn >From: "Leonora Christina Skov" >To: ecto@smoe.org >Subject: Thanks & The Bird and the Bee >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:39:30 +0200 > >Thanks JoAnn. Ill investigate further.. > >Based on the clips on emusic Reba is certainly right up my street. Thanks >for the recommendation, Tim. Comparing her to Tori is perhaps a little >too obvious, I know, but her voice and fierce piano playing does sound >quite much like her. Ill certainly need to give Beth Sorrentino another >listen. I downloaded Nine Songs and dismissed it immediately. Her girlish >voice annoyed me, as far as I remember, and the songs reminded me too >much of Beth Nielsen Chapman. > >Presently, Im reviewing the new Inara George/Greg Kursin-project, The >Bird and the Bee, for Gaffa  a Danish music magazine. I wasnt crazy >about Inaras debut, but this album is so eclectic and inspired and her >voice is just drop dead gorgeous, reminiscent of Astrud Gilberto in my >opinion. The album has the same retro-feel as Camera Obscura, but its >catchier and more playful and there are so many killertracks youre being >spoilt for choice. Again & Again, Im a Broken Heart I Hate Camera >and Fucking Boyfriend are obvious highlights. Presently they all seem >stuck in my head. > >Cheers Leonora > >"Some would call it Art. I would call it camouflage" Joan Crawford om >Bette Davis' makeup > >Forfatter, mag.art. > >Leonora Christina Skov > >H.C. Xrsteds Vej 35, 3.tv., 1879 Frb. C. Tlf 38 19 03 81 / 26 85 67 27 > > > > > >www.leonorachristinaskov.blogspot.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: Timothy Jones-Yelvington > To: Timothy Jones-Yelvington , > Subject: Beth Sorrentino & Reba Hasko > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:38:44 -0500 > >Based upon recommendations here, I used my monthly emusic allotment > to > >download Beth Sorrentino's "Nine Songs, One Story" and Reba Hasko's > "Live > >From Studio (Whatever Number)." > > > >What amazing albums!! > > > >Both of these recordings really show what can be accomplished using > just a > >voice and a piano. > > > >-Sorrentino's songs sound deceptively straight-forward and are quite > >stirring. Some of her chords (mostly minor, I think) and > progressions I just > >want latch onto and live inside for the rest of my life. I wish I > was better > >with music theory-speak so I could identify exactly what it is I > find so > >involving. > > > >-Whatever that quality is that I find lacking in Vienna, Terami and > CharMar, > >Reba Hasko possesses in spades. When I figure out a name for it, or > how to > >identify it, I'll let y'all know. > > > >Thanks for the reccs! > > > >~tim > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Download din yndlingsmusik pe MSN Music det er nemt og billigt! _________________________________________________________________ Cant afford to quit your job?  Earn your AS, BS, or MS degree online in 1 year. http://www.classesusa.com/clickcount.cfm?id=866145&goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.classesusa.com%2Ffeaturedschools%2Fonlinedegreesmp%2Fform-dyn1.html%3Fsplovr%3D866143 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:13:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: My first Happy experience I've posted this before, and it's on my blog at my MySpace page, but since ecto posts no longer come up in Search (how depressing) here it is again for anyone who's allergic to MySpace. I changed my stupid mistake of calling "Annette" Peacock "Alice." I also reluctantly added links to the shows I talk about. - - Vickie Early fall, 1988 (fade in) I lived in Kansas City, Missouri, and I was a big fan of a musician named Annette Peacock. A fellow KaTe (Bush) fan who lived in St. Louis was also a fan of Annette's music. That's John. We were on a quest to find every single album she'd done, and there were quite a few. He visited us often and we would dub for each other the albums we had found. He was in contact with another KaTe fan who lived in California. This fan (Bob) also liked Annette Peacock and he had a couple of albums that we didn't so he offered to tape them and send them to John. John got the cassette, and the next time he came to visit he brought the tape along. John wasn't going to be there for long so we didn't listen to the tape then, but I set a blank tape to record it while we were watching a movie and wrote down everything Bob had written regarding song titles. There was time on the end of both sides of the tape, so Bob had put something on each side to fill it up. It wasn't anything I'd ever heard of. Wait...*runs to get tape* Side One (after Annette Peacock's album "I'm The One") Happy Roads (I know, I know) == Ecto == Off From Out From Under Me Side Two (after Annette Peacock's "Sky-Skating") Happy Rhodes (correct spelling this time, I don't know if it was Bob or me who spelled it wrong) == If Love Is A Game, I Win == Poetic Justice == I'm Going Back A little arrow is pointed to the songs and I wrote: "From the 'Ecto Sampler'" Back then I had a job working in a record store warehouse. It was a pretty busy place because we were also a "One Stop" where other record stores came to get their stock. I was a stocker (not to be confused with a stalker) and I worked the afternoon/evening shift. I could wear headphones and often played cassettes. The next day at work I took the cassette with me. I loved hearing new Annette! Then there was a pause, and this interesting music came on. A tick-tick-tick-tick and a very cool guitar sound. Then a deep hypnotic voice in my head "Should I die? Don't take time to wonder. Is she near? Or are her brains asunder? This spirit must exist and move on to better things" Wha?? I too stopped what I was doing and then I heard the most amazing thing: KATE BUSH! Ecto Ecto Ecto Ecto I nearly fell over. Obvously it wasn't Kate, but it sure sounded like her, and I'd never heard anyone who sounded anywhere near like her. When the song was over I rewound it to listen again. Wow. There had to be 2 people singing, and I really wanted to know who these people were. Then came the song that made me fall in love: Off From Out From Under Me I knew a man who was very odd He always thought that someone was following him He'd talk of entities that didn't exist Or so I thought Off From Out From Under Me Off From Out From Under Me Off From Out From Under Me Freaking hell! I was so in love! I must have listened to those two songs a few dozen times before turning the tape over and fast-forwarding through Annette (sorry Annette) to get to the Happy Rhodes songs, which of course, I also loved. I was dying to find out who this person/group was and if this was a "Sampler," what else was on that album. I asked everybody at work if they'd heard the name. This was a record store and distributor, right? Someone had to have heard of her. Nope. When I got home John was still there and I asked him if he'd listened to the Annette cassette yet. He hadn't, so I said, you HAVE to hear this! and put the tape in. I played all Happy's songs, and he was just as amazed as I was. I insisted he call Bob right then and there to find out what this Happy Rhodes thing was (for all I knew, it could have been the name of a group). He got Bob on the line and was told that Bob worked at a radio station, and he had received this cassette called the Ecto Sampler. He also, oh joy, had the entire Ecto album! We begged him to make us a copy, which he did. Well, in the time between discovering Happy and getting the Ecto tape, I asked everybody I came into contact with if they'd heard of her. Nope, no luck. I got the dub of Ecto and wore that thing out. (You know, if anyone ever wants to know why I share Happy's music, and I've shared her on the old Napser and to this day on a web site, it's because without "illegal" dubs, I never would have heard Happy.) I had a radio show at the time called "Suspended In Gaffa" on KKFI in Kansas City. I focused on female vocals and had a decent listenership. I first played Happy on October 2, 1988 in a show that included the Sugarcubes, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Najma, Kate, Katia & Marielle Labeque and Mary Coughlin, among others. I played "Don't Want To Hear It" and then played 2 Dark Arts songs while I re-cued the tape to "Would That I Could." I remember saying something like "I don't know who this person is, so if anybody has ever heard of Happy Rhodes, PLEASE call me!" I heard from people who liked it, but no one knew her. (here it is, btw, be kind to my amateur DJ mistakes: http://suspended-in-gaffa.com/SIGKC/SIG_KC31_10-02-88_1stHappy.mp3) I found out that Happy was on a label called "Aural Gratification" and there was this fellow named Kevin Bartlett involved somehow. I called long-distance information and asked for a listing of Happy Rhodes in Albany, NY. No luck. Then I asked the operator to check Kevin Bartlett. I got a number. I called and got an answering machine. I didn't know what to say so I said my name and that I had a radio show on a station in Kansas City. I said something like "I'm looking for a Kevin Bartlett that has something to do with someone named Happy Rhodes." So, my show was on Sunday night. I played Happy. I called Kevin sometime that week. On Friday night we went to a party at a friend's house (the guy who got me the radio show) and there was another friend there who had brought along a friend of his who was visiting from "New York" (I assumed city). I didn't talk to him, but then when we were leaving, literally going out the door, I impulsively turned around and went over to him and said "Have you ever heard of a musician named Happy Rhodes?" (hey, he was from New York, that's all I knew. Don't all people who live in the same state know each other?) I expected the same "No" that I had gotten several dozen times before, so imagine my surprise when he said "Oh sure, her brother used to be my roommate" !!!!!!!!! Chris heard that and knew we were going to be there for a while longer. I made him tell me everything he knew. Which wasn't much really. He knew her music and liked it, and said her brother was a nice guy, and that she was beautiful (a knockout, I think he said) and a few other things, also including that she had other albums. Oooh, she had other albums?!?! You really can't imagine how amazing this was to me, that not only did I find someone who'd heard of her, he knew her! And she had other albums. More music! So that was Friday. Sunday I was getting ready for my show that night and the phone rings. It's Kevin Bartlett! It's THE Kevin Bartlett!! Yay! We talked about Happy for a bit, then he asked me if I wanted to talk to her. Oh my god, I was so nervous. I doubt she was as nervous as I was, but I know (now) that she doesn't like to talk on the phone, so the long conversation we had was probably very unusual for her. I don't remember what all we talked about, but her music and Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel were probably the big topics. Damn, they were SO NICE! I was knocked out, and very excited when told that they'd send me her other albums. I had a great show that night. I said to my listeners something like "Remember last week when I said that I didn't know anything at all about Happy Rhodes? Well, now I know a lot, because I talked to her right before coming to the studio!' On that show I played "Project 499" and "I Won't Break Down" (along with Kate, Anne Pigalle, The Cocteau Twins, Throwing Muses, the Bulgarian Chorus, Victoria Williams, Alice Coltrane and others). (Here's that one: http://suspended-in-gaffa.com/SIGKC/SIG_KC32_10-09-88_2ndHappy.mp3) I played her on nearly every show after that, and my listeners loved her. She sold several cassettes in Kansas City. I even interviewed her live on the air once. I hated to talk on the radio. If I could have gotten away with never saying a word I would have, but I was always meticulous about identifying the artists I played (I chose all the music) and every time I played Happy I would say a little something about her. For the longest time I pronounced the word "Albany" wrong. I would say al (like pal, sally) banee when it's supposed to be ALL-banee. Happy was very sweet and funny when she corrected me during the interview. I have a tape somewhere where I put together of many of the times I talked about Happy and I think there's a section where I have fun with my mispronunciations. (Here's that: http://suspended-in-gaffa.com/SIGKC/SIG_KC_HistoryOfHappy.mp3) When we were moving to Chicago I was still going to have my radio show, but I would record it on reel-to-reel tape and send it down. On my last live show (which turned out to not be my last live show because I was still in town the next week and my replacement, the one who would be playing my tapes, was sick, so I went on) I had permission to do a 6 hour live show. I played Happy throughout the show, but I dedicated my last hour to her and only played her. I did my final sign-off to the song "To Be E. Mortal," saying all my goodbyes and thank yous. I was really tired by then, and I cried. It was very moving and such perfect music in the background. (That was the tape that Jeffy heard) We joined rec.music.gaffa/Love-Hounds (the mailing list mirror of the Kate Bush newsgroup) in late 1989, and I started talking about Happy right away. I'll always be greatful to Jeff Burka and Larry Hernandez, who believed me when I raved about her. They bought cassettes (her first 4 albums were only available on hand-made cassettes until after Warpaint) and raved about her too, which prompted others to try her out. When Warpaint came out on CD in 1991, a lot of people liked it, and the talk on gaffa became deafening. There were protests from Kate fans who weren't into Happy, and so Jessica Dembski created the Ecto mailing list. And here we are. I love her so damn much. That she thinks I'm pretty cool, that she's still around and making great music, that Ecto still exists, and that she does have fans who do talk about her, are such bright points in my life. I too expected her to be a household name by now, but what can you do? If I were more of a go-getter type I might have been able to help her more, but since my naturally quiet and shy personality has already been stretched to such a limit over the years, I'm glad I did what I could, when I could. I am very proud that at the right time and place, and in front of the right people, I had a big mouth! Vickie ps, if anybody knows a **Bob Davis** who had an alternative radio show somewhere in Northern California in mid-1988, thank him for me, and give me his e-mail address. - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Music's the way, the only way I know... Happy Rhodes MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/happyrhodes Happy Rhodes song samples: http://wretchawry.com/happy/samples Happy Rhodes on YouTube: http://wretchawry.com/happy/rarities/videolist.html Happy Rhodes Subtitled videos: http://wretchawry.com/happy/rarities/googlevideo.html Suspended In Gaffa: http://suspended-in-gaffa.com Streaming audio: http://www.myspace.com/gaffashow - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:22:13 +0100 From: "Marc McLaren" Subject: Tori Amos - American Doll Posse. I haven't seen it mentioned yet, curious. Anyway, over the last two months there's been previews of some of the songs from American Doll Posse. If you don't want to listen to them until the release of Tori Amos' new album, then don't click the links. Otherwise, "Beauty of Speed" - http://undented.com/news/470/beauty-of-speed-live-video A really nice song, one of my favs so far. Kinda lacking in quality on this site. "Almost Rosey" - http://undented.com/news/470/beauty-of-speed-live-video[yes, same link] Nice for as far as it goes, awful quality :P "Bouncing off Clouds" - http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00cd9717626e4cd5.html "Big Wheel" - http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00d414256eff3c7f.html This took me quite a few listens to get to liking it. Bear with it and you'll find its heart. "Secret Spell" - http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00d414251c2d6a47.html "Teenage Hustling" - http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00d414240af4685e.html I have the majority of these recorded into files if anyone wants. just drop me a line :) - -- From Marc! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:18:04 -0400 From: "JoAnn Whetsell" Subject: RE: Tori Amos - American Doll Posse. Thanks for posting these links, Marc. The only thing I'd heard about this album (other than that it's coming out May 1) was the controversy about the cover. Apparently the first one had Tori holding a Bible in one hand, and I forget what was in the other. I think there was blood, or the Bible was bloody or torn or something. Anyway, they must have changed it because pre-order sites now show a cover with three versions of Tori on it. Has anyone heard anything about the new Bjork, Volta, which is coming out a week later? JoAnn >From: "Marc McLaren" >To: Ecto >Subject: Tori Amos - American Doll Posse. >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:22:13 +0100 > >I haven't seen it mentioned yet, curious. Anyway, over the last two months >there's been previews of some of the songs from American Doll Posse. > >If you don't want to listen to them until the release of Tori Amos' new >album, then don't click the links. Otherwise, > >"Beauty of Speed" - http://undented.com/news/470/beauty-of-speed-live-video > >A really nice song, one of my favs so far. Kinda lacking in quality on this >site. > >"Almost Rosey" - >http://undented.com/news/470/beauty-of-speed-live-video[yes, same >link] > >Nice for as far as it goes, awful quality :P > >"Bouncing off Clouds" - >http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00cd9717626e4cd5.html > >"Big Wheel" - >http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00d414256eff3c7f.html > >This took me quite a few listens to get to liking it. Bear with it and >you'll find its heart. > >"Secret Spell" - >http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00d414251c2d6a47.html > >"Teenage Hustling" - >http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00d414240af4685e.html > >I have the majority of these recorded into files if anyone wants. just drop >me a line :) >-- >From Marc! _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:44:18 -0500 From: Joshua Yu Burnett Subject: Bjork (was Tori Amos - American Doll Posse.) On Apr 17, 2007, at 7:18 PM, JoAnn Whetsell wrote: > Has anyone heard anything about the new Bjork, Volta, which is > coming out a week later? I've only heard one song from it (Earth Intruders, the lead single) but I've heard some discussion about the album as a whole. A few of the songs are produced by rapper/uber-producer Timbaland, and the album also features several guest appearances from African musicians - - one from Mali, one from the Democratic Republic of Congo, maybe others I don't recall. Also, the album's apparently more pop song- oriented than her last few albums. There's a video podcast available leading up to the release, featuring interviews with Bjork. I think there's a link to it on the main page of the iTunes podcast directory if you use iTunes. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:18:21 +0100 From: "Marc McLaren" Subject: Re: Tori Amos - American Doll Posse. Yes, in one hand a Bible and the other hand the word "SHAME" written on it. Also she has blood running down one of her legs. It's interesting. It's the main image at www.toriamos.com On 4/18/07, JoAnn Whetsell wrote: > > Thanks for posting these links, Marc. The only thing I'd heard about this > album (other than that it's coming out May 1) was the controversy about > the > cover. Apparently the first one had Tori holding a Bible in one hand, and > I > forget what was in the other. I think there was blood, or the Bible was > bloody or torn or something. Anyway, they must have changed it because > pre-order sites now show a cover with three versions of Tori on it. > > Has anyone heard anything about the new Bjork, Volta, which is coming out > a > week later? > > JoAnn > > > >From: "Marc McLaren" > >To: Ecto > >Subject: Tori Amos - American Doll Posse. > >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:22:13 +0100 > > > >I haven't seen it mentioned yet, curious. Anyway, over the last two > months > >there's been previews of some of the songs from American Doll Posse. > > > >If you don't want to listen to them until the release of Tori Amos' new > >album, then don't click the links. Otherwise, > > > >"Beauty of Speed" - > http://undented.com/news/470/beauty-of-speed-live-video > > > >A really nice song, one of my favs so far. Kinda lacking in quality on > this > >site. > > > >"Almost Rosey" - > >http://undented.com/news/470/beauty-of-speed-live-video[yes, same > >link] > > > >Nice for as far as it goes, awful quality :P > > > >"Bouncing off Clouds" - > > > http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00cd9717626e4cd5.html > > > >"Big Wheel" - > > > http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00d414256eff3c7f.html > > > >This took me quite a few listens to get to liking it. Bear with it and > >you'll find its heart. > > > >"Secret Spell" - > > > http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00d414251c2d6a47.html > > > >"Teenage Hustling" - > > > http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00d414240af4685e.html > > > >I have the majority of these recorded into files if anyone wants. just > drop > >me a line :) > >-- > >From Marc! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. > > http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 > - -- From Marc! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:55:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: RE: Tori Amos - American Doll Posse. "Anyway, they must have changed it because pre-order sites now show a cover with three versions of Tori on it." which will no doubt lead to tiresome "Strange Little Girls" comparisons from critics. I'm nervous about the sheer number of tracks, since my only real complaint about "The Beekeeper" was that it was under-edited. My friend Beth and I went title-by-title on AMG this morning, deciding which songs we expect to love, and which songs we expect will cause us to hang our heads, muttering, "Oh, Tori..." ~tim JoAnn Whetsell wrote: Thanks for posting these links, Marc. The only thing I'd heard about this album (other than that it's coming out May 1) was the controversy about the cover. Apparently the first one had Tori holding a Bible in one hand, and I forget what was in the other. I think there was blood, or the Bible was bloody or torn or something. Anyway, they must have changed it because pre-order sites now show a cover with three versions of Tori on it. Has anyone heard anything about the new Bjork, Volta, which is coming out a week later? JoAnn >From: "Marc McLaren" >To: Ecto >Subject: Tori Amos - American Doll Posse. >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:22:13 +0100 > >I haven't seen it mentioned yet, curious. Anyway, over the last two months >there's been previews of some of the songs from American Doll Posse. > >If you don't want to listen to them until the release of Tori Amos' new >album, then don't click the links. Otherwise, > >"Beauty of Speed" - http://undented.com/news/470/beauty-of-speed-live-video > >A really nice song, one of my favs so far. Kinda lacking in quality on this >site. > >"Almost Rosey" - >http://undented.com/news/470/beauty-of-speed-live-video[yes, same >link] > >Nice for as far as it goes, awful quality :P > >"Bouncing off Clouds" - >http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00cd9717626e4cd5.html > >"Big Wheel" - >http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00d414256eff3c7f.html > >This took me quite a few listens to get to liking it. Bear with it and >you'll find its heart. > >"Secret Spell" - >http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00d414251c2d6a47.html > >"Teenage Hustling" - >http://toriamos.groups.vox.com/library/audio/6a00c22521af19549d00d414240af4685e.html > >I have the majority of these recorded into files if anyone wants. just drop >me a line :) >-- >From Marc! _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:51:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Jones-Yelvington Subject: Re: My first Happy experience Hearing stories like this makes me feel like I've kind of missed out on something, doing so much of my music fandom in the internet age. The thrill of discovery isn't quite so poignant when you can acquire information so rapidly. I also think it's interesting how virtually everyone (myself included) assumed Happy was two different people the first time they heard her. My discovery was fairly recent... probably only 2003 or 2004. I've been a fan of various female singer-songwriters for years, having come of age in the Lilith era. ...but I first heard Happy on a mix made by a Dutch friend named Wouter (he's quoted heavily on the Sarah Slean and Lisa Germano pages of the Ecto Guide), who my boyfriend met and befriended while living in the Hague for 9 months in 1998. The song was "Run," from Equipoise. My boyfriend Peter came back from a trip to the Netherlands with Wouter's mix on his computer. Peter likes to play new music discoveries and then refuse to identify them just to taunt me, as his music knowledge is generally fairly minimal, and I tend to be very manic in my attempts to try and recognize everything I ever hear. So it took a little while to sneak onto his computer, find out what I was hearing, and steal it. I went to Happy's website, and knew that it was true love after seeing her joke about "pulling a Kate," and almost snorting her.... wheatgrass, I think it was?? I've since purchased "Many Worlds are Born Tonight" and "Building the Colossus" used, but that's still all I got, which I realize is shameful. I discovered the Ectophile's Guide fairly shortly after discovering Happy, while googling reviews of Hannah Fury's "The Thing that Feels." I was immensely impressed by the sophistication of this fanbase.... but I put off joining for quite some time, until I received, within the same week, an enthusiastic comment from Vickie regarding the music choices on my Myspace page, and an "add" request from the Ecto community on livejournal. Then I decided it was finally time to give in. ~tim Xenu's Sister wrote: I've posted this before, and it's on my blog at my MySpace page, but since ecto posts no longer come up in Search (how depressing) here it is again for anyone who's allergic to MySpace. I changed my stupid mistake of calling "Annette" Peacock "Alice." I also reluctantly added links to the shows I talk about. - - Vickie Early fall, 1988 (fade in) I lived in Kansas City, Missouri, and I was a big fan of a musician named Annette Peacock. A fellow KaTe (Bush) fan who lived in St. Louis was also a fan of Annette's music. That's John. We were on a quest to find every single album she'd done, and there were quite a few. He visited us often and we would dub for each other the albums we had found. He was in contact with another KaTe fan who lived in California. This fan (Bob) also liked Annette Peacock and he had a couple of albums that we didn't so he offered to tape them and send them to John. John got the cassette, and the next time he came to visit he brought the tape along. John wasn't going to be there for long so we didn't listen to the tape then, but I set a blank tape to record it while we were watching a movie and wrote down everything Bob had written regarding song titles. There was time on the end of both sides of the tape, so Bob had put something on each side to fill it up. It wasn't anything I'd ever heard of. Wait...*runs to get tape* Side One (after Annette Peacock's album "I'm The One") Happy Roads (I know, I know) == Ecto == Off From Out From Under Me Side Two (after Annette Peacock's "Sky-Skating") Happy Rhodes (correct spelling this time, I don't know if it was Bob or me who spelled it wrong) == If Love Is A Game, I Win == Poetic Justice == I'm Going Back A little arrow is pointed to the songs and I wrote: "From the 'Ecto Sampler'" Back then I had a job working in a record store warehouse. It was a pretty busy place because we were also a "One Stop" where other record stores came to get their stock. I was a stocker (not to be confused with a stalker) and I worked the afternoon/evening shift. I could wear headphones and often played cassettes. The next day at work I took the cassette with me. I loved hearing new Annette! Then there was a pause, and this interesting music came on. A tick-tick-tick-tick and a very cool guitar sound. Then a deep hypnotic voice in my head "Should I die? Don't take time to wonder. Is she near? Or are her brains asunder? This spirit must exist and move on to better things" Wha?? I too stopped what I was doing and then I heard the most amazing thing: KATE BUSH! Ecto Ecto Ecto Ecto I nearly fell over. Obvously it wasn't Kate, but it sure sounded like her, and I'd never heard anyone who sounded anywhere near like her. When the song was over I rewound it to listen again. Wow. There had to be 2 people singing, and I really wanted to know who these people were. Then came the song that made me fall in love: Off From Out From Under Me I knew a man who was very odd He always thought that someone was following him He'd talk of entities that didn't exist Or so I thought Off From Out From Under Me Off From Out From Under Me Off From Out From Under Me Freaking hell! I was so in love! I must have listened to those two songs a few dozen times before turning the tape over and fast-forwarding through Annette (sorry Annette) to get to the Happy Rhodes songs, which of course, I also loved. I was dying to find out who this person/group was and if this was a "Sampler," what else was on that album. I asked everybody at work if they'd heard the name. This was a record store and distributor, right? Someone had to have heard of her. Nope. When I got home John was still there and I asked him if he'd listened to the Annette cassette yet. He hadn't, so I said, you HAVE to hear this! and put the tape in. I played all Happy's songs, and he was just as amazed as I was. I insisted he call Bob right then and there to find out what this Happy Rhodes thing was (for all I knew, it could have been the name of a group). He got Bob on the line and was told that Bob worked at a radio station, and he had received this cassette called the Ecto Sampler. He also, oh joy, had the entire Ecto album! We begged him to make us a copy, which he did. Well, in the time between discovering Happy and getting the Ecto tape, I asked everybody I came into contact with if they'd heard of her. Nope, no luck. I got the dub of Ecto and wore that thing out. (You know, if anyone ever wants to know why I share Happy's music, and I've shared her on the old Napser and to this day on a web site, it's because without "illegal" dubs, I never would have heard Happy.) I had a radio show at the time called "Suspended In Gaffa" on KKFI in Kansas City. I focused on female vocals and had a decent listenership. I first played Happy on October 2, 1988 in a show that included the Sugarcubes, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Najma, Kate, Katia & Marielle Labeque and Mary Coughlin, among others. I played "Don't Want To Hear It" and then played 2 Dark Arts songs while I re-cued the tape to "Would That I Could." I remember saying something like "I don't know who this person is, so if anybody has ever heard of Happy Rhodes, PLEASE call me!" I heard from people who liked it, but no one knew her. (here it is, btw, be kind to my amateur DJ mistakes: http://suspended-in-gaffa.com/SIGKC/SIG_KC31_10-02-88_1stHappy.mp3) I found out that Happy was on a label called "Aural Gratification" and there was this fellow named Kevin Bartlett involved somehow. I called long-distance information and asked for a listing of Happy Rhodes in Albany, NY. No luck. Then I asked the operator to check Kevin Bartlett. I got a number. I called and got an answering machine. I didn't know what to say so I said my name and that I had a radio show on a station in Kansas City. I said something like "I'm looking for a Kevin Bartlett that has something to do with someone named Happy Rhodes." So, my show was on Sunday night. I played Happy. I called Kevin sometime that week. On Friday night we went to a party at a friend's house (the guy who got me the radio show) and there was another friend there who had brought along a friend of his who was visiting from "New York" (I assumed city). I didn't talk to him, but then when we were leaving, literally going out the door, I impulsively turned around and went over to him and said "Have you ever heard of a musician named Happy Rhodes?" (hey, he was from New York, that's all I knew. Don't all people who live in the same state know each other?) I expected the same "No" that I had gotten several dozen times before, so imagine my surprise when he said "Oh sure, her brother used to be my roommate" !!!!!!!!! Chris heard that and knew we were going to be there for a while longer. I made him tell me everything he knew. Which wasn't much really. He knew her music and liked it, and said her brother was a nice guy, and that she was beautiful (a knockout, I think he said) and a few other things, also including that she had other albums. Oooh, she had other albums?!?! You really can't imagine how amazing this was to me, that not only did I find someone who'd heard of her, he knew her! And she had other albums. More music! So that was Friday. Sunday I was getting ready for my show that night and the phone rings. It's Kevin Bartlett! It's THE Kevin Bartlett!! Yay! We talked about Happy for a bit, then he asked me if I wanted to talk to her. Oh my god, I was so nervous. I doubt she was as nervous as I was, but I know (now) that she doesn't like to talk on the phone, so the long conversation we had was probably very unusual for her. I don't remember what all we talked about, but her music and Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel were probably the big topics. Damn, they were SO NICE! I was knocked out, and very excited when told that they'd send me her other albums. I had a great show that night. I said to my listeners something like "Remember last week when I said that I didn't know anything at all about Happy Rhodes? Well, now I know a lot, because I talked to her right before coming to the studio!' On that show I played "Project 499" and "I Won't Break Down" (along with Kate, Anne Pigalle, The Cocteau Twins, Throwing Muses, the Bulgarian Chorus, Victoria Williams, Alice Coltrane and others). (Here's that one: http://suspended-in-gaffa.com/SIGKC/SIG_KC32_10-09-88_2ndHappy.mp3) I played her on nearly every show after that, and my listeners loved her. She sold several cassettes in Kansas City. I even interviewed her live on the air once. I hated to talk on the radio. If I could have gotten away with never saying a word I would have, but I was always meticulous about identifying the artists I played (I chose all the music) and every time I played Happy I would say a little something about her. For the longest time I pronounced the word "Albany" wrong. I would say al (like pal, sally) banee when it's supposed to be ALL-banee. Happy was very sweet and funny when she corrected me during the interview. I have a tape somewhere where I put together of many of the times I talked about Happy and I think there's a section where I have fun with my mispronunciations. (Here's that: http://suspended-in-gaffa.com/SIGKC/SIG_KC_HistoryOfHappy.mp3) When we were moving to Chicago I was still going to have my radio show, but I would record it on reel-to-reel tape and send it down. On my last live show (which turned out to not be my last live show because I was still in town the next week and my replacement, the one who would be playing my tapes, was sick, so I went on) I had permission to do a 6 hour live show. I played Happy throughout the show, but I dedicated my last hour to her and only played her. I did my final sign-off to the song "To Be E. Mortal," saying all my goodbyes and thank yous. I was really tired by then, and I cried. It was very moving and such perfect music in the background. (That was the tape that Jeffy heard) We joined rec.music.gaffa/Love-Hounds (the mailing list mirror of the Kate Bush newsgroup) in late 1989, and I started talking about Happy right away. I'll always be greatful to Jeff Burka and Larry Hernandez, who believed me when I raved about her. They bought cassettes (her first 4 albums were only available on hand-made cassettes until after Warpaint) and raved about her too, which prompted others to try her out. When Warpaint came out on CD in 1991, a lot of people liked it, and the talk on gaffa became deafening. There were protests from Kate fans who weren't into Happy, and so Jessica Dembski created the Ecto mailing list. And here we are. I love her so damn much. That she thinks I'm pretty cool, that she's still around and making great music, that Ecto still exists, and that she does have fans who do talk about her, are such bright points in my life. I too expected her to be a household name by now, but what can you do? If I were more of a go-getter type I might have been able to help her more, but since my naturally quiet and shy personality has already been stretched to such a limit over the years, I'm glad I did what I could, when I could. I am very proud that at the right time and place, and in front of the right people, I had a big mouth! Vickie ps, if anybody knows a **Bob Davis** who had an alternative radio show somewhere in Northern California in mid-1988, thank him for me, and give me his e-mail address. - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Music's the way, the only way I know... Happy Rhodes MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/happyrhodes Happy Rhodes song samples: http://wretchawry.com/happy/samples Happy Rhodes on YouTube: http://wretchawry.com/happy/rarities/videolist.html Happy Rhodes Subtitled videos: http://wretchawry.com/happy/rarities/googlevideo.html Suspended In Gaffa: http://suspended-in-gaffa.com Streaming audio: http://www.myspace.com/gaffashow - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V13 #96 **************************