From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V12 #316 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, November 28 2006 Volume 12 : Number 316 To unsubscribe: e-mail ecto-digest-request@smoe.org and put the word unsubscribe in the message body. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friends... [Mike Matthews ] Re: Xmas songs that dont suck [Doug ] Jesca Hoop @ Temple Bar in Santa Monica Thursday (fwd) [Neile Graham ] Re: Xmas songs that dont suck [Greg Bossert ] RE: anyone heard the new albums by Tanya Donelly, Loreena McKennitt? [Jo] Putting Rhodeways/ AG newsletters on the web. Best approach? ["Xenu's Sis] Re: Putting Rhodeways/ AG newsletters on the web. Best approach? [Bernie ] joy askew ... and a band! in nyc! [wojbearpig ] dark blue world - soliciting comments [Damon ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 03:00:04 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************** Justin Bur (no Email address) ********************** ****************** Sue Trowbridge (trow@interbridge.com) ****************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Sue Trowbridge Sun November 27 1966 Skytten Ward Kadel Tue November 29 1977 Sagittarius Jesse Hernandez Liwag Wed November 29 1972 Water Rat Mirko Bulaja Sat November 30 1974 Block Juha Sorva Thu December 02 1976 Sagittarius Chip Lueck Thu December 05 1968 Sagittarius Lenore December 05 sagi Michele Wellck December 08 Sagittarius Jeremy J. Corry Fri December 11 1970 Sagittarius Renee Canada Tue December 13 1977 Sagittarius Julie C. Kammerzell Sun December 15 1968 Sagittarius/Scorpio combo Gloria Jackson-Nefertiti Sat December 15 1956 queen_nefertiti@prodigy.net Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius Milla Wed December 17 1975 Sagittarius Chris Schernwetter Tue December 17 1974 Sagittarius Sherry Haddock Sat December 17 1960 Sagittarius Tracy Benbrook Tue December 18 1973 Sagittarius Mark Lowry Mon December 22 1969 Capricarius Kay Cleaves Wed December 22 1976 Prancing Pony Uli Grepel Wed December 25 1968 Steinbock Joseph Wasicek Sat December 25 1976 Brown Eagle - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:49:12 -0600 From: Doug Subject: Re: Xmas songs that dont suck I just noticed that Sarah McLachlan put out an Xmas song CD last month. Anyone pick it up? I love the cover photo...she looks so angelic! - --Doug ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:05:27 -0800 (PST) From: Neile Graham Subject: Jesca Hoop @ Temple Bar in Santa Monica Thursday (fwd) For anyone in the area... - --Neile - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:00:40 -0500 From: Jesca Hoop To: neile@drizzle.com Subject: Temple Bar Show Thursday I will be at the Temple Bar on Thursday Nov 30th at 9pm...that's in Santa Monica...it's one of the last of my shows for the year....I would love it if you would come. Temple Bar is in Santa Monica at the corner of 11th and Wilshire. See you there! Mis Jes - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- COLUMBIA and the Columbia "Walking Eye" logo are registered trademarks of SONY BMG Music Entertainment. Copyright ) 2006 SONY BMG Music Entertainment. All rights reserved. This email was sent to neile@drizzle.com Replying to this email will not remove you from the mailing list. Click http://www.sonybmgemail.com/arch/Remove?msg=ttotqqozz if you no longer wish to receive this mailing. Click http://www.sonymusic.com/privacy/index.html to read our privacy policy. This email was sent by: SMOS | 550 Madison Avenue 24th Floor | New York, NY 10022 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:15:06 -0500 From: wojbearpig Subject: Re: anyone heard the new albums by Tanya Donelly, Loreena McKennitt? one time at band camp, Paul Jensen (lasherboy@gmail.com) said: >Tanya's new album is definitely a winner. Much more upbeat and livelier than >"Whiskey Tango Ghosts". yes, though i have to say that i find _whiskey tango ghosts_ absolutely entrancing as well. to me, that record is a work of a dramatically mature songwriter and the music is really well-matched to the song and their content. i like _this hungry life_ equally as well, but for completely different reasons. i just wish that my copy of the cd would arrive soon -- mp3s snarfed off usenet are a good substitute but not as good as the real thing blasting from the car or home stereo. >Loreena's new cd is great - but to be honest, it's just more of the same. It >sounds almost identical to "Book of Secrets", and that's not a bad thing. yeah, agreed 100% here as well. one thing i noted, at least on a couple songs, is a bit of a more urban rhythm (both in terms of beat and bass) to the faster songs, which i thought was a nice touch. but for the most part, it's not a change in pace for loreena. but, as you point out, that's not to say it's a bad thing. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:43:47 -0500 From: wojbearpig Subject: Re: Joanna Newsom: "Ys" i know nearly everyone dislikes joanna newsom's voice on her proper debut _the milk-eyed mender_ (and the two self-released cd-rs which preceeded it, _walnut whales_ and _yarn & glue_) but i would just like to state, for the record, that at least one person LOVES the way she sang and the way she played on that record. seriously. that album resonated with me the same way veda hille's _spine_ and tori amos' _little earthquakes_ did: feeling like i already knew the songs like old friends the first time i heard them and never tiring of listening to it. _ys_ is a departure, for sure, and i enjoy it lots, but i have had a harder time really getting inside that record. not so much because of the stylistic changes from her earlier work but primarily because the place i listen to music mostly now is work and long songs like those on this album are regularly interrupted by phone calls and e-mail and meetings. bah. alas, ms. newsom is banned from the house stereo whenever meredith is around (she falls in the extreme dislike camp though i don't really understand how she can handle diamanda galas but not joanna newsom *jab*) so i haven't been able to listen to it much at home either. i hope to remedy that tonight... woj n.p. wfmu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 11:05:44 -0800 From: Greg Bossert Subject: Re: Xmas songs that dont suck On Nov 27, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Doug wrote: > I just noticed that Sarah McLachlan put out an Xmas song CD last > month. as did (or soon will) Aimee Mann. and there are tracks from both these albums on a xmas song sampler available at starbucks. i haven't heard any of it, so i am likewise wondering what folks here think... - -g - -- www.suddensound.com -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:11:37 +1030 From: Jon Soong Subject: RE: anyone heard the new albums by Tanya Donelly, Loreena McKennitt? Just ordered the Tanya donnelly album - very easy, has pay pal ! I probably wouldn't have ordered otherwise :) j - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jonathan Soong Information Communication Techology Services, Institute of Medical and Veterinary Science Phone: +618 8222 3095 Email: jon.soong@imvs.sa.gov.au >-----Original Message----- >From: wojbearpig [mailto:woj@smoe.org] >Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2006 3:45 AM >To: Ecto >Subject: Re: anyone heard the new albums by Tanya Donelly, >Loreena McKennitt? > >one time at band camp, Paul Jensen (lasherboy@gmail.com) said: > >>Tanya's new album is definitely a winner. Much more upbeat >and livelier >>than "Whiskey Tango Ghosts". > >yes, though i have to say that i find _whiskey tango ghosts_ >absolutely entrancing as well. to me, that record is a work of >a dramatically mature songwriter and the music is really >well-matched to the song and their content. i like _this >hungry life_ equally as well, but for completely different >reasons. i just wish that my copy of the cd would arrive soon >-- mp3s snarfed off usenet are a good substitute but not as >good as the real thing blasting from the car or home stereo. > >>Loreena's new cd is great - but to be honest, it's just more of the >>same. It sounds almost identical to "Book of Secrets", and >that's not a bad thing. > >yeah, agreed 100% here as well. one thing i noted, at least on >a couple songs, is a bit of a more urban rhythm (both in terms >of beat and >bass) to the faster songs, which i thought was a nice touch. >but for the most part, it's not a change in pace for loreena. >but, as you point out, that's not to say it's a bad thing. > >woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 15:06:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Putting Rhodeways/ AG newsletters on the web. Best approach? I've just finished scanning in all of the Rhodeways/Terra Incognita fanzines, and a few AG newsletters. I want to put them on the web for people who weren't around then and want to see what they looked like. I scanned every one twice. The first time I made separate image files of each page, and the second time I OCR'd the pages to get text files. After I clean up the .bmp files (crop, straighten if they're slightly off-kilter), I want to convert them to pdf files, so people can see what the original fanzine looked like. However, I hate pages with text on them that are ONLY pdfs, so for the .txt files, which need to be cleaned up too (the OCR'ing leaves much to be desired, but it's better than typing in everything from scratch), I want to add html code and lay them out on a web page as close as possible to the original layout, including picture placement (which I'll extract out of the bmp files). I know basic html so I'm not concerned with that. I assume style sheets are the way to go in layout. For Rhodeways there are a dozen issues with each issue having several pages, so style sheets would enable me to have a uniform look, but I don't know much about style sheets. I know a little bit (everything I know about style sheets I stole from other sites), enough not to be 100% clueless, but not enough to know the best way to do this project. Can anyone give any tips on doing this? Perhaps a link to a page where this has been done? Once I see how someone else did it I can grasp the concept. Since you have to add css code to the html, I'd rather know what to add before I start adding html to the raw text. If I don't use style sheets I'll just use tables because they're much much easier. I know I could just put up the pdfs, but I want searchable/copy/pasteable text too, so if I'm going to put up the pure text, I might as well try to lay it out close to the original, just so it looks nice. I don't want it to be complicated though. I have access to CUTEhtml (my primary html program, but you have to do css by hand), FrontPage (which I've barely used), TopStyle (I've never used it, but it seems cool), Expressions (which I've never used but it seems cool too) and UltraEdit (which I mention mainly because I do most of my html coding by hand in it). Here's a couple of small sample pages to get an idea of the layout: http://wretchawry.com/happy/terra/03_04_med.jpg Would anyone have any tips or suggestions, please? Thank you in advance. May I just say that Sharon did an amazing job with the fanzine! I have so much admiration and awe for what she did. There was a time when I was going to take it over/start one of my own, but the amount of work overwhelmed me. Let's hear it for Sharon, who not only thought about doing it, but actually DID IT!! YAY!!! Vickie - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Music's the way, the only way I know... Suspended In Gaffa: http://suspended-in-gaffa.com Streaming audio: http://www.myspace.com/gaffashow Happy Rhodes MySpace profile: http://www.myspace.com/happyrhodes Happy Rhodes song samples: http://wretchawry.com/happy/samples Happy Rhodes on YouTube: http://wretchawry.com/happy/rarities/video.html - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:05:09 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: Putting Rhodeways/ AG newsletters on the web. Best approach? the way that the maryland state archives does it is to put up the original as a pdf, and provide a searchable OCRed version (or in the case of handscribbled stuff from the 1700s, a searchable ascii text version). they put a link on each so that you can toggle back and forth between the pdf and the plain-text (or bring up in two windows). brni > I've just finished scanning in all of the Rhodeways/Terra Incognita fanzines, and a few AG > newsletters. I want to put them on the web for people who weren't around then and want to see what > they looked like. I scanned every one twice. The first time I made separate image files of each > page, and the second time I OCR'd the pages to get text files. > > After I clean up the .bmp files (crop, straighten if they're slightly off-kilter), I want to > convert them to pdf files, so people can see what the original fanzine looked like. However, I > hate pages with text on them that are ONLY pdfs, so for the .txt files, which need to be cleaned > up too (the OCR'ing leaves much to be desired, but it's better than typing in everything from > scratch), I want to add html code and lay them out on a web page as close as possible to the > original layout, including picture placement (which I'll extract out of the bmp files). > > I know basic html so I'm not concerned with that. I assume style sheets are the way to go in > layout. For Rhodeways there are a dozen issues with each issue having several pages, so style > sheets would enable me to have a uniform look, but I don't know much about style sheets. I know a > little bit (everything I know about style sheets I stole from other sites), enough not to be 100% > clueless, but not enough to know the best way to do this project. Can anyone give any tips on > doing this? Perhaps a link to a page where this has been done? Once I see how someone else did it > I can grasp the concept. Since you have to add css code to the html, I'd rather know what to add > before I start adding html to the raw text. If I don't use style sheets I'll just use tables > because they're much much easier. > > I know I could just put up the pdfs, but I want searchable/copy/pasteable text too, so if I'm > going to put up the pure text, I might as well try to lay it out close to the original, just so it > looks nice. I don't want it to be complicated though. > > I have access to CUTEhtml (my primary html program, but you have to do css by hand), FrontPage > (which I've barely used), TopStyle (I've never used it, but it seems cool), Expressions (which > I've never used but it seems cool too) and UltraEdit (which I mention mainly because I do most of > my html coding by hand in it). > > Here's a couple of small sample pages to get an idea of the layout: > http://wretchawry.com/happy/terra/03_04_med.jpg > > Would anyone have any tips or suggestions, please? Thank you in advance. > > May I just say that Sharon did an amazing job with the fanzine! I have so much admiration and awe > for what she did. There was a time when I was going to take it over/start one of my own, but the > amount of work overwhelmed me. Let's hear it for Sharon, who not only thought about doing it, but > actually DID IT!! YAY!!! > > Vickie > > > > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > Music's the way, the only way I know... > > Suspended In Gaffa: http://suspended-in-gaffa.com > Streaming audio: http://www.myspace.com/gaffashow > > Happy Rhodes MySpace profile: http://www.myspace.com/happyrhodes > Happy Rhodes song samples: http://wretchawry.com/happy/samples > Happy Rhodes on YouTube: http://wretchawry.com/happy/rarities/video.html > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Cheap talk? > Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > http://voice.yahoo.com > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. www.livejournal.com/~brni ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:22:40 -0500 From: wojbearpig Subject: joy askew ... and a band! in nyc! for nyc ectophiles. it's been a while since seeing her play and i doubt i'll make this show, but in case anyone else is free and is interested. i'm not sure what she's up to sonically these days though...i'm sure myspace or her website can clear that up easily enough though. woj - ----- Forwarded message from Christopher Kornmann ----- Joy Askew Live & Band Wednesday, November 29th 8:00 PM at the Living Room 154 Ludlow Street FREE! www.joyaskew.com Hope to see you there! - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 22:04:02 -0800 From: Damon Subject: dark blue world - soliciting comments hi folks - i'm guessing no one here has heard dark blue world? i've promised the singer an entry in the ectophiles' guide but have been really delinquent on getting it done; i think i'm just stymied for words in general, lately, but i seem to be having a particularly hard time coming up with something intelligible to say here. so, i thought i'd provide links to a few samples and see if it tweaks anyone else's interest here. it's dark, fairly poetic stuff, and her voice sounds a bit like marianne faithfull or even diamanda galas - rather harsh and not actually musical, but she weilds it and her lyrical ability so well. i am in love with this cd, i just wish i could find the words to express it. samples at: http://myspace.com/darkblueworldca (note the ca - without the ca it's someone else using the same name) links to lots of reviews at: http://www.dripaudio.com/releases.php?release=8 band site: http://www.darkblueworld.ca/ so, is anyone inspired to help me out, or am i on my own? :) - -damon - -- dl+ecto@usrbin.ca: protecting my real address since 2002 (too late!) > EWS starts here! < ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V12 #316 ***************************