From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V12 #51 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, February 24 2006 Volume 12 : Number 051 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Ancient Ecto [Michael Pearce ] More ancient ecto [Michael Pearce ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:00:03 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************* Teresa Ross (no Email address) ********************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Teresa Ross Wed February 23 1977 pisces Michael Curry Fri February 24 1967 Pisces Paula Shanks Mon February 25 1952 Pisces Brni Mojzes Fri February 26 1965 the vanishing boy Mark Bianchino Wed February 26 1964 Pisces Pamela Pociluk Fri February 28 1964 Pisces Marius Voina Mon March 03 1980 Pisces Peter Clark Thu March 04 1948 Pedestrian Tim Steele Fri March 08 1963 Pisces Matt Bittner Thu March 12 1964 Pisces kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Bob Dreano Thu March 13 1958 Pisces Randall K. Smith Sat March 15 1969 Pisces Jessica Skolnik March 16 Pisces Patrick M. Kingsley Sat March 17 1962 Yin/Yang Alan Sodoma Thu March 18 1965 LuckyLurker Richard Konrad Sat March 18 1944 Pisces Daniel Wed March 18 1959 Wednesday's Child Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Graham Dombkins Fri March 19 1965 Pisces Ian Young Wed March 19 1969 Squiggol Jeff Wasilko Wed March 19 1969 Pisces Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces John Stewart Sat March 21 1970 Aries Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:56:06 -0800 From: Michael Pearce Subject: Ancient Ecto While rooting around on an old backup disk, I found a couple of old messages that I thought might be of interest. Elsewhere on the CD is the entire 1995 stream of Ecto messages. Back then I used FidoNet to access Usenet. _____ Subject: October Project anyone? From: Philip Sainty Date: 11/29/94 1:01:52 AM TO: All ^APTH @rain 1:105/210@fidonet ^AREPLYTO 1:105/210@fidonet fredmail ^AREPLYADDR dreaming@tao.sans.vuw.ac.nz ^APID: Fred 1.9q ^AMSGID: 1:105/210@fidonet 79b4e00d From: dreaming@tao.sans.vuw.ac.nz (Philip Sainty) Newsgroups: alt.music.ecto Organization: SANS, Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand. ^AMessage-ID: <3bdui0$ina@st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz> ^ADate: 29 Nov 1994 01:01:52 GMT In article <3b0jfq$pd9@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu>, Sabrina Cheng writes: > I'm not sure if this is the right news group, but does anyone else out > there listen to October Project? I would love to start a discussion about > them, and just recently discovered a.m.ecto. Their music and vocals are > incredible! Anyone out there know what they have been up to lately? Hi! I tried to post this on Friday, but my news-reader went bananas on me, so I hope it works this time :) Anyway, here's an interview that Wayne Palmer posted to Ecto a while back which I thought would be of interest to those who didn't get to see it then... - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a great interview that October Project gave to Kim Alexander from WXPN that appears in latest issue of the Xpress, the Members' Newsletter that goes out bimonthly to members of the station. Before anyone worries about copyright, I have gotten permission from 'XPN to transcribe it for distribution on the Internet. It really answers some of the questions people have had about this band and how they came about. Kim Alexander got a lot of info from them for such a short interview. The unique sound of October Project By Kim Alexander Midday host Kim Alexander caught up with David Sabatino and Mary Fahl of October Project recently and asked them questions about the band's formation, their style and the making of their debut album. KIM: I have a hunch you've all had some classical training. DAVE: There's some classical training in the backgrounds of some of the players in the band. But it's really not a factor in the music as much as some people think it is. I think most of our influences come from our likes for pop music, mine being the Beatles. Marina loves Joan Baez... MARY: I think the only think anybody brings from their classical training is a certain discipline in the way that we rehearse. We try to avoid any kind of musical cliches when we're arranging and putting the music together. I've never had classical training at all. KIM: October Project is such a unique sounding band. Is this the kind of band you envisioned yourself in? DAVE: We're often asked why it sounds the way it does... it's because we've taken all these different people with really different musical backgrounds and different likes in pop music, and put them together and it ended up sounding like October Project. I couldn't have imagine being in a band with people of totally different backgrounds and having it work. It's kind of a magical thing that we got together in the first place. MARY: The way that we got together wasn't through some kind of ad. Most bands get together because they share common musical interests, but I think one of the reasons that we sound unique is that none of us share any musical interests at all. I probably wouldn't have typically been in a band with Dave, who's extremely rock 'n roll, and grew up listening to Carlos Santana. I listen to a lot of world music and more traditional singers like Sarah Vaughan and Nina Simone. KIM: You were signed to Epic Records partly due to your big following in the New York City area. I understand that Club Sin-e was your home base. MARY: Yeah, we had played around New York for about two years at places like CBGB, the Lone Star, every place you can possibly imagine. DAVE: Every place, places we had no business being in! KIM: It's hard to imagine you at CBGB, to tell you the truth... MARY: Yeah, well, that was very interesting. They used to sandwich us in between heavy metal bands, so there would be all these metalheads out there with tattoos and beer bottles in their hands. And we'd go on and they'd be kind of raucous at first and...I guess it was music it sooth the savage beast. Actually, we had a bit of a metal following. I think we're more accessible to that kind of listener than we are to a really heavy-duty alternative listener, 'cause you know metalheads like big pop ballads! After about two years, we luckily found a home at Club Sim-e. It's a tiny, little coffeehouse run by this guy named Shane, who's from Dublin, and he made it a really accessible place for us. We played there almost every single week and the industry did start to take notice. And since than I think several other acts have gotten signed out of there, which is very exciting. KIM: Who else? MARY: I think Jeff Buckley (folk singer Tim Buckley's son) got signed out of there. KIM: So, you get signed and you go to Nashville, of all places, to make your record. Why did you choose Nashville? MARY: Our Producer, Glenn Rosenstein, is centered in Nashville and he thought - and Epic thought as well - that it would be good for us, being our first album, to get away from our natural surroundings. Glenn is very well-connected down there, so we were able to make an album that, to put it bluntly, probably sounds a lot more expensive. We couldn't have afforded to make that kind of an album in New York, and Nashville is so accessible musically. It's a wonderful place to make an album because the whole city is dedicated to doing just that, to make it easy for you in a lot of different ways. And it was a great experience. KIM: Let's talk about Julie Flanders' unique position in your band. She writes the lyrics but she's not actually a performing part of the band. MARY: That's correct. We've gotten compared to Enya, and to Renaissance, although I don't know if that's a really accurate comparison, but both of those acts also had outside lyricists who did not perform. DAVE: Other examples are The Grateful Dead, Elton John... MARY: King Crimson... DAVE: Everyone comes in with their strength. Julie writes and that's what she does best. KIM: Does she tour with you? DAVE: Very rarely. She'll go out on some promotional tours with us, but generally the day-to-day grind of going across the country is... MARY: She is fortunately spared that! KIM: So when you're off traveling and performing, is she home writing some more? MARY: Hopefully! DAVE: We have another album coming up. Julie is also pursuing an acting career. So she has her own performing outlet. KIM: So many people have compared you to Renaissance...what is your reaction to that? MARY: I don't think it's an accurate comparison. It's funny, because Annie Haslam has heard our album and we heard through the grapevine that she likes it, but she doesn't think we sound anything like them either! I don't really think she sounds anything like me, and we have a lot more harmonies. Our songs are radically different...they have that really strong classical bent where they go off into long sections of sort of pseudo-classical music. We never do that. I think there's a sort of breadth to their sound, where I don't think they are afraid of sounding big and a little bit grand. But other than that, I think we are more of an ensemble than I sense Renaissance was. DAVE: And when we perform live, our sound is edgier, and Mary gets to do her Grace Slick kind of thing. MARY: The writers and the critics who make those comparisons, after they hear us live, they say, "You know what? I was wrong." I think there's more grit to what we do, a lot more energy. It's much more grounded than the album is. That's where the comparisons tend to fall away. KIM: And you feed off the energy of the audience... DAVE: That's the key thing. We talk about the driving around and the grind of touring, but those two hours before, during and shortly after the performance - if the audience is there - it makes it worth it. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- * Origin: Jina usenet <-> fidonet gateway, Beaverton OR USA (1:105/210) SEEN-BY: 105/210 211 290 ^APATH: 105/211 210 29 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:59:16 -0800 From: Michael Pearce Subject: More ancient ecto Subject: "Count Your Blessings" CD From: Vickie Mapes Date: 11/29/94 4:28:01 AM ^APTH @rain 1:105/210@fidonet ^AREPLYTO 1:105/210@fidonet fredmail ^AREPLYADDR vickie@pilot.njin.net ^APID: Fred 1.9q ^AMSGID: 1:105/210@fidonet fda32d9c From: vickie@pilot.njin.net (Vickie Mapes) Newsgroups: alt.music.ecto, rec.music.misc, alt.music.canada, alt.music.alternative.female, rec.music.christian, rec.music.tori-amos, alt.music.enya Organization: Rutgers University ^AMessage-ID: <3bes71$hjq@pilot.njin.net> ^ADate: 29 Nov 1994 04:28:01 -0500 (No direct Tori or Enya content, sorry. I just think that anyone who appreciates great female voices might be interested in this. Cross- posted to rec.music.christian because I know that there are major Victoria Williams fans there. Follow-ups set to alt.music.ecto) - -------------------------- From the back cover of the CD booklet: "In November 1993, Holly Cole, Rebecca Jenkins, Mary Margaret O'Hara, Jane Siberry and Victoria Williams gathered in Toronto to create a show of Christmas and seasonal songs. They invited piano player extraordinaire Tim Ray, best known for his live work with Lyle lovett, to join them. All five artists scoured music libraries and dug through old records to select the songs. The final list includes favourite traditional compositions as well as original songs "Never, No" by Mary Margaret O'Hara, "Are You Burning Little Candle" by Jane Siberry, written specifically for this occasion, and "A Holy Thing" by Victoria Williams, written only hours before the performance. After several days of rehearsals in a cramped living room, the songs were recorded before a live studio audience at the Glenn Gould Theatre in the new CBC Broadcast Centre. The recording, originally entitled "A Choral Christmas" was broadcast in Canada on the CBC radio network on Christmas day, and throughout the United States on National Public Radio. Listen, enjoy, and count your blessings." - --------------------------------------------------- This CD was just released by Alert Music in Canada (details later) and the latest information I have is that there are no plans to release it anywhere other than Canada. I've had this CD for 2 days, and I highly, highly, highly recommend it, if it can be found. Those in North America might try Ladyslipper at 1-800-634-6044 and if they don't have it, ask them to get it...give them the information wrt Alert Music's address and the CD's ordering number, which I'll provide shortly. Btw, Alert Music does *not* do mail order themselves. For people who *can* get the CD easily, I'd put forward the suggestion to pick some up while you can, because it may very possibly go out of print after the holiday season. If you have the money, don't just pick up one for yourself. They'd make *wonderful* gifts for anyone who loves any of the artists involved, female voices in general and Chrismas songs. They'd also make *great* trading items for now and especially in the future when they're not available anymore. No, I don't work for Alert Music, I'm just a big fan of all these women. So much so, in fact, that we traveled to Toronto to attend the original concert. Listening to this CD brings far more pleasure than just the great memories it brings back. It truly is a wonderful CD. Every song is fantastic, and it's hard to single out highlights. If I *had* to, I'd give an extra nod to Victoria's rendition of "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas" and her tear-inducing original song "A Holy Thing," as well as Holly Cole's swinging "Deck The Halls", Jane's very beautiful "Are You Burning Little Candle", Rebecca's angelic "I'll Be Home For Christmas", Mary Margaret's jazzy "White Christmas" and the ensemble beauty of "Carol Of The Bells" and Silent Night". Btw, if you're a lucky Canadian who heard this concert, and may have taped it, don't think that you already "have" this, because there are songs that were performed live and *not* included in the radio broadcast that are included on this CD. At the same time, don't erase your tape, because there were songs on the radio show that aren't included on the CD. - ----------------------------------------------------------- Full credits for CD: Count Your Blessings (Alert Music Inc. Z2-81025) ( 0 6152-81025-2 2 ) (bar code #) A live recording of seasonal music by Holly Cole Rebecca Jenkins Mary Margaret O'Hara Jane Siberry Victoria Williams 1. Count Your Blessings (Ensemble) (Edith Temple, Richard Morgan) (C) Warner Chappell 2. Please Come Home For Christmas (Holly Cole lead) (Brown, Redd) (C) Fort Knox/BMI 3. White Christmas (Mary Margaret O'Hara lead) (Irving Berlin) (C) Irving Berlin Music Corp. c/o Warner Chappell 4. Un Flambeau Jeanette Issabella (Ensemble) (Traditional) 5. What Is This Fragrance (Mary Margaret O'Hara lead) (Traditional) 6. Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas (Victoria Williams lead) (Ralph Blane, Hugh Martin) (C) EMI Music Publishing 7. Carol Of The Bells (Ensemble) (Traditional) 8. Never, No (Mary Margaret O'Hara lead) (Mary Margaret O'Hara) (C) Yet Courier Music/BMG Songs Inc. 9. I'll Be Home For Christmas (Rebecca Jenkins lead) (Kim Gannon, Walter Kent) (C) Edward B. Marks Music Co./Gannon and Kent Music Co. 10. Are You Burning Little Candle (Jane Siberry lead) (Jane Siberry) (C) Wing-It 11. Deck The Halls (Holly Cole lead) (Traditional) 12. A Holy Thing (Victoria Williams lead) (Victoria Williams) (C) Mabel Allbright Publishing/BMG (BMI) 13. In The Bleak Mid Winter (Jane Siberry lead)[sic] (Gustav Holst) 14. Silent Night (Ensemble) (Traditional) Recorded December 2 [sic], 1993 at the Glenn Gould Theater/Toronto This record was recorded and mixed digitally with no additional overdubs or editing. Executive Producer - Bob Blumer Producers - Kevin O'Leary and Danny Greenspoon Engineer - Todd Fraracci Mastered and Assembled at the Lacquer Channel by George Graves Art Direction - Bob Blumer Package Design - Rodney Bowes Photography - Patrick Nichols Hand Lettering - Debbie Jow Vocals Holly Cole Rebecca Jenkins Mary Margaret O'Hara Jane Siberry Victoria Williams Piano Tim Ray Special thanks to Kevin O'Leary and Karen Gordon who helped transform this recording from an idea to a reality Thanks to Tom Berry, Kathy Meisler, Danny Greenspoon, Hot Ticket, CBC Radio, Danny Heaps, Joy Ferris, Lucie Bourgouin, Scott Murley Holly Cole appears courtesy of Alert Music Inc. Her most recent recording is "Don't Smoke In Bed" Rebecca Jenkins' most recent recording is the soundtrack to the film "Bye Bye Blues" available on WEA Canada Mary Margaret O'Hara's most recent recording is "Miss America" available on Virgin Records Jane Siberry appears courtesy of WEA Canada Her most recent recording is "When I Was A Boy" Victoria Williams appears coutesy of Mammoth Records Her most recent recording is "Loose", available in Canada on WEA Canada CBC SRC (C) Canadian Broadcasting Corporation 1994 (P) 1994 Alert Music Inc. Manufactured in Canada for/fabrique au Canada pour Alert Records, a division of Alert Music Inc. 41 Britain St., Ste. 305, Toronto, Ontario M5A 1R7. Printed in Canada - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Vickie again...I typed the credits in exactly as they appeared in the liner notes. I wanted to explain the two [sic]s. The first concerned the song "In The Bleak Mid Winter" where it states that Jane Siberry sang lead. Their idea of "lead" is very different from mine, because it's definitely an ensemble song. The second one concerns the date. It was not recorded December 2, it was recorded December 3, 1993. We were there. I'm not just relying on my memory and ticket stub. I'm also sitting here looking at the Events book for the Glenn Gould Theater. If it had been Thursday, Dec. 2, Bruce Cockburn would have sung with the women, because his live concert was at the Glenn Gould Theater that night. Maybe he wouldn't have minded sharing the stage, but... The date would seem to be a too easily checkable item for Bowes to get it wrong, but nitpicky or not, the concert was at 8:00pm, Friday night, December 3, 1993. Btw, I never heard from anyone who heard "A Choral Christmas" broadcast anywhere in the United States on NPR or APR radio. The following is a list of the songs sung live in concert, in the order that they were sung. I set this up to get an at-a-glance idea of what was left out of the radio show, what was added to the CD, and what was left off the CD. A quick study of the song order on the CYB CD shows that the order was drastically re-arranged. An additional (and sad, IMHO) change made was that all the between song patter that was broadcast on A Choral Christmas has been completely, 100%, deleted on Count Your Blessings. LIV = Live in concert ACC = A Choral Christmas radio show CYB = Count Your Blessings CD release (Main Soloist) LIV ACC It Came Upon A Midnight Clear (ensemble) LIV Little Drummer Boy (Holly) LIV Everything I Wish For You (ensemble) LIV ACC CYB Un Flambeau, Jeanette Issabella (ensemble) 4 LIV ACC CYB In The Bleak Mid-Winter (ensemble) 13 LIV ACC CYB Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas (Victoria) 6 LIV ACC Wildwood Carol (Jane) LIV CYB White Christmas (Mary Margaret) 3 LIV CYB Carol Of The Bells (ensemble) 7 LIV ACC CYB I'll Be Home For Christmas (Rebecca) 9 LIV ACC CYB Deck The Halls (Holly) 11 LIV ACC CYB A Holy Thing (Victoria) 12 LIV Patapan (ensemble) LIV ACC CYB Are You Burning Little Candle? (Jane) 10 LIV ACC CYB Please Come Home For Christmas (Holly) 2 LIV CYB Never, No (Mary Margaret) 8 LIV ACC CYB Count Your Blessings (ensemble) 1 LIV ACC Here We Come A-Wassailing (ensemble) LIV ACC CYB What Is This Fragrance Softly Stealing (Mary Margaret) 5 LIV ACC We Wish You A Merry Christmas (ensemble) LIV ACC CYB Silent Night (ensemble) 14 ^ song ordering on "Count Your Blessings" CD _______| Vickie - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Vickie Mapes irc ---> #ecto "My ears are lucky to hear vickie@pilot.njin.net alt.music.ecto these glorious songs" HR _________ "Imagination sets in, then |_ _ | _ The Happy Rhodes mailing list all the voices begin" KB |__|_ ||_| ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Searching for Happy Rhodes reviews, articles, interviews, mentions - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - --- * Origin: Jina usenet <-> fidonet gateway, Beaverton OR USA (1:105/210) SEEN-BY: 105/210 211 290 ^APATH: 105/211 210 29 ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V12 #51 **************************