From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V11 #352 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, December 25 2005 Volume 11 : Number 352 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: CD Review idea [Neile Graham ] Re: CD Review idea [Ken Descoteaux ] Hapy Holidays [aural gratification ] this will allow a lurker I don't know in passed by my quick [kerrywhite@w] Re: Hapy Holidays ["robert bristow-johnson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:15:07 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: CD Review idea I would be happy to include this information in The Ectophiles' Guide, but would need people to tell me which discs to put the warning on. I haven't been keeping track. - --Neile On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, JoAnn Whetsell wrote: > Andrew Fries wrote: > > "I was also thinking - it is even more important that online shops should > carry such warnings. Otherwise how are we to know when ordering something > online?" > > Amazon.com does note this, at least on some albums; unfortunately I > didn't realize until after I had bought a few DRMd cds online, but at > least it's good to know now. > > JoAnn > > JoAnn > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: andrew fries > To: ecto@smoe.org > Subject: Re: CD Review idea > Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 20:04:16 +1100 > >Paul Schreiber wrote: > >>When reviewing CDs, magazines and newspapers should either > >>(a) note the presence copy control on the CD, like a warning, or > >>better yet, > >>(b) refuse to review CDs that have DRM > >> > >>thoughts? is this realistic? > > > >It would be a good idea that I would certainly welcome, but I was > >also thinking - it is even more important that online shops should > >carry such warnings. Otherwise how are we to know when ordering > >something online? After today's experiences, I'm already worried I > >can no longer just go online and order a disc, without doing some > >kind of research first. > > > >The bastards! > - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham .... neile@sff.net/@drizzle.com ... www.sff.net/people/neile Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal ........ www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines Editor, The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ........... www.ectoguide.org Workshop Administrator, Clarion West ................ www.clarionwest.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:04:48 -0500 From: Ken Descoteaux Subject: Re: CD Review idea It's important to identify the particular pressing involved. Sometimes the US version only, or the European version only, has protection. So it important for submitters to provide that information, perferrable with the exact type of protection (e.g. Suncomm MediaMax, versus XCP) Neile Graham wrote: > I would be happy to include this information in The Ectophiles' Guide, > but > would need people to tell me which discs to put the warning on. I > haven't been keeping track. > > --Neile > > >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> From: andrew fries >> >Paul Schreiber wrote: >> >>When reviewing CDs, magazines and newspapers should either >> >>(a) note the presence copy control on the CD, like a warning, or >> >>better yet, >> >>(b) refuse to review CDs that have DRM >> >> >> >>thoughts? is this realistic? >> > >> >It would be a good idea that I would certainly welcome, but I was >> >also thinking - it is even more important that online shops should >> >carry such warnings. Otherwise how are we to know when ordering >> >something online? After today's experiences, I'm already worried I >> >can no longer just go online and order a disc, without doing some >> >kind of research first. >> > >> >The bastards! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:28:35 -0500 From: aural gratification Subject: Hapy Holidays Hey y'all, Have a safe, warm, joyous, peaceful, thankful and big-ass fun Holiday Love KB ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:34:18 -0600 From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) Subject: this will allow a lurker I don't know in passed by my quick Hi, If you wish to do this,please use "ECTO" in first 3 or 4 words of subject: this will allow a lurker I don't know in passed by my quick 'delete finger' against unknow names. bye, KrW I'm Peter Pan! I'm perpetually young!! OW!! What's wrong with my back? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:41:52 -0500 From: "robert bristow-johnson" Subject: Re: Hapy Holidays > Hey y'all, > Have a safe, warm, joyous, peaceful, thankful and big-ass fun Holiday > yew too, Kevin. thanks for having such a creatively named label with a lot of creative music under it (i only have AG1 and AG2 and the pre-sampson HR) and putting Happy on the map. bestest, - -- r b-j rbj@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V11 #352 ***************************