From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V11 #320 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, November 23 2005 Volume 11 : Number 320 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Well well well, what's going on 'ere then ... [jessica lawrence koepp] Re: Well well well, what's going on 'ere then ... [Bernie Mojzes ] Re: Well well well, what's going on 'ere then ... [meredith ] upcoming kristeen young shows [wojizzle forizzle ] Re: Well well well, what's going on 'ere then ... [Troy J Shadbolt ] Re: *WAVES* and *HUGS* [meredith ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:33:11 -0800 From: jessica lawrence koeppel Subject: Re: Well well well, what's going on 'ere then ... hi chris. i sure do remember you from the old days. i myself have been mostly absent for a long time. i tried coming back at one point, but i felt really unwelcome. i felt like there were mostly new people who had new idea who i am, and i had no idea who they were, and i didn't feel like any of the new people would even care to KNOW who i was. not that i'm trying to say it's "important to me to the be thought of as the person who started ecto". it's not that. hrm. it's hard to explain. i just didn't feel welcome and i went back to not reading. but it was all in my head - i've just been pretty anti-social for most of the last 11 years since i left everything. these days, however, i'm happier than i've been - maybe ever. i feel like i've spent a LONG time figuring out how to live my life in a way that makes me happy, and now i'm starting to do a decent job of it. all kinds of things are good. in fact, nothing is bad. and a lot of things are great. :) I've been pretty stable for about a year. maybe noone wants to know all the details, except maybe some of you from the old days who do remember me _do_ want to know, so: after a second suicidal depression, i finally got some serious, high-quality intensive treatment, was diagnosed as bipolar, came to grips with that, went through a few different awful (for me) medications before finding a combination that works for me, and also found a therapist who works well with me. so after a year on the good med-combo and everything being stable, i'm really feeling comfortable and happy with my life and not as afraid of the future, or feeling like it's pointless. back to ecto-topics: i LOVE kate's new stuff. well, most of it. I listen mostly to the second disc, A Sky of Honey. At first An Architect's Dream and Painter's Link felt incongruous to me, but even those have grown on me and the rest of it is just soooooooooooo yummy and wonderful. on the first, A Sea of Honey, i adore How to Be Invisible, and I enjoy King of the Mountain quite a bit, but most of the others bug me in _some_ way even when i really want to like them because I like some aspect of them. I suspect i will come to love them all as i listen to them more. I'm mostly stuck on Sky... at the moment. :) - --jessica ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:39:45 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: Well well well, what's going on 'ere then ... *waves* *scratches head* hrrmmm. you didn't have 2 children last time i saw you. how'd that happen? brni while extremely confused, you said: > I must admit to a strange feeling writing a message here. It must be at > least nine or ten years since my last one, back in the aftermath of my > ecto world tour 1993/4. I went back into the archives to read some of my > messages from back then, which is always good for a laugh ;) I was also > somewhat pleasantly surprised to find (after a cursory scan of this > years archive) that I'm still on the birthday list ;) > > What has really brought it all back, however, is the new Kate album, > which I now have playing on my CD player. It brought back memories of > the Kate-con in 1994 after The Red Shoes, and the gathering in Cambridge > (I think that's where it was). The serendipity is astounding however, as > by some freak of coincidence, I am in Holland again, as I was for the > release of The Red Shoes. > > So, hello to anyone who still remembers that far in the past! > > For those that don't, I normally live in Melbourne Australia, but my > family and I are currently living in Enschede, Holland until next > February. My wife, Margreta, is Dutch, and an academic at Melbourne > University (does research in coding theory) and is on sabbatical, > working with a colleague at Twente University. We have two children, > Daniel (4) and Leona (2). As I write it I realise that almost all of > that is new information, even for the "older" members here ;) > > I must say that Aerial is a fabulous album, and I have had it on pretty > constantly since it was released. I play the second disk (Sky) the most > and I really like "Sunset", beautiful melody, enhanced by the wonderful > Celtic rhythms that kick in halfway through. At least I think they're > Celtic. Margreta thought they were Spanish! I can hear echoes of all of > her previous albums in this one too, which is interesting. Mrs > Bartoluzzi reminds me of TKI, for example. > > So there you have it, It's good to be back. I'll probably go and lurk > for a while now. > > Chris > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. www.livejournal.com/~brni ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:04:48 -0500 From: "Jeffrey Burka" Subject: Re: Well well well, what's going on 'ere then ... brni sez: > > hrrmmm. you didn't have 2 children last time i saw you. how'd that > happen? Uh, if you don't know that by now brni, you've got problems that really can't be handled by this mailing list! Welcome back, Chris... jeff n.p. _Divide_, Casey Stratton (sounds like a slightly mellower _Standing on the Edge_) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:14:17 -0500 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: Re: Well well well, what's going on 'ere then ... damn. posts from chris (boooooooooek), greg (footah!), jessica (falafel!) and brni (um, something) in the same day. i'm suddenly feeling very optimistic about a tribe reunion. woj n.p. yeah, that ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:11:51 -0800 From: Bowen Simmons Subject: Aerial It took a while, but I finally got to the point where I can listen to Aerial all the way through. The big problem was the second disk: it is just too much. On early listenings I kept finding that my heart was full and I just had to stop. The album as a whole is less consistent than The Hounds of Love, owing to some goofy moments here and there, and it lacks the driving beats that give Hounds its adrenaline rush, but the emotional heights Aerial reaches are so sublime, that I have to say that it has supplanted Hounds as my favorite album of all the 2,000 or so I've owned through the years. Really extraordinary. Bowen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:23:21 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: Well well well, what's going on 'ere then ... Hi, wojizzle forizzle wrote: > damn. posts from chris (boooooooooek), greg (footah!), jessica > (falafel!) and brni (um, something) in the same day. i'm suddenly > feeling very optimistic about a tribe reunion. The holidays are when families get back together ... :) - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:52:47 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Well well well, what's going on 'ere then ... Yeah, next thing you know - Kate Bush will release a CD! neal At 12:14 PM -0500 11/22/05, wojizzle forizzle wrote: >damn. posts from chris (boooooooooek), greg (footah!), jessica >(falafel!) and brni (um, something) in the same day. i'm suddenly >feeling very optimistic about a tribe reunion. > >woj > >n.p. yeah, that ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:00:26 -0600 From: Kim Justice Subject: Re: Well well well, what's going on 'ere then ... On 11/22/05, neal copperman wrote: > Yeah, next thing you know - Kate Bush will release a CD! "...we came in?" "Isn't this where..." - -- Kim Justice justicekw@gmail.com "There can always be new beginnings -- even for people like us" - --Susan Ivanova ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:09:19 -0800 (PST) From: Neile Graham Subject: Re: Well well well, what's going on 'ere then ... Yes! Welcome back, everyone. So great to see you here. - --Neile On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, wojizzle forizzle wrote: > damn. posts from chris (boooooooooek), greg (footah!), jessica > (falafel!) and brni (um, something) in the same day. i'm suddenly > feeling very optimistic about a tribe reunion. > > woj > > n.p. yeah, that - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- neile@drizzle.com / neile@sff.net .... http://www.sff.net/people/neile Editor, The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music . http://www.ectoguide.org Workshop Administrator, Clarion West ...... http://www.clarionwest.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:35:02 -0500 From: "Jeffrey Burka" Subject: floydian aerial kim sez: > On 11/22/05, neal copperman wrote: > > Yeah, next thing you know - Kate Bush will release a CD! > > "...we came in?" > > "Isn't this where..." funny you should mention that in the context of _Aerial_, as one of the strongest resonances to other music _Sky of Honey_ has for me is that Bertie's "The day is full of birds" consistently makes me think of the spoken "Look mummy, there's a bird up in the sky." (for those confused, these are references to Pink Floyd's _The Wall_) Having lived with _Aerial_ longer, a number of comments: a) I realize this makes me rare, but I utterly adore "Bertie." The only lyric that gives me pause is, "The most truly fantastic smile ever" and that's only because it keeps making me think of KaTe's appearance on the cookery show in which she kept going on about things being fantastic... Otherwise, I find the swooping through "Sweet kisses / three wishes" to be enchanting and that snippet is constantly stuck in my head. b) I found Vickie's post about Mrs. B to be fascinating and while I can't tell if it's truly justified by the lyrics, it certainly adds another dimension to the song...and if anything, can make it a more challenging listen! The song, to me, still sounds like it could have been pulled straight from the Cathy Demos c) I have no idea which disc I like better. Then again, I couldn't pick one between HoL and TNW, so this doesn't particularly bother me... d) Am I correct in thinking that "Nocturne" is the longest track she's committed to an album? (no, remixes don't count) e) My partner, who doesn't much like KaTe and prefers I don't play her albums on car trips, loves _Sea of Honey_ and doesn't care much at all for _Sky of Honey_, though he'd be willing to listen to "Nocturne" and "Aerial" again. He especially liked "King of the Mountain" jeff n.p. _Smashing the Ceiling_, Magdalen Hsu-Li ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:00:34 -0500 From: wojizzle forizzle Subject: upcoming kristeen young shows - ----- Forwarded message from Kristeen Young ----- KRISTEENYOUNG Saturday, November 26 @11pm The Chameleon 223 N. Water St. Lancaster, PA www.chameleonclub.net Wednesday, November 30 @11pm RARE 416 W. 14th St. (btwn. 9th Ave & Washington St.) NYC www.rare-nyc.com other bands performing: 8pm Dirty Lenin (ok, not the best of names) 9pm The Rakehells (the lovely and talented) 10pm The Mixed Art Foundation (kinda like this name....although it reminds me a little of Fairport Convention or something jazz fusion) Have a great Thanksgiving. Be thankful. - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:31:17 -0800 From: Troy J Shadbolt Subject: Re: Well well well, what's going on 'ere then ... woj positively bubbles: > damn. posts from chris (boooooooooek), greg (footah!), jessica > (falafel!) and brni (um, something) in the same day. i'm suddenly > feeling very optimistic about a tribe reunion. > > woj > it has been a day of surprises... i was so happy to see a message from ecto- mama jess! what next, D2? - -- troy j shadbolt www.voyuz.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:52:23 -0800 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Fwd: The Kate Bush Official Online Team Anyone else (aside from woj) get spammed like this? Begin forwarded message: > From: "Lauren" > Date: 22 November 2005 16:04:23 GMT-08:00 > To: tori-boot-owner@yahoogroups.com > Subject: The Kate Bush Official Online Team > > Hi! > > I came across your Tori Amos group,http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/ > group/tori-boot/ and am contacting you on behalf of Columbia > Records and M80. I run the Official Kate Bush Online Team, which > helps get the word out about Aerial, runs contests with for free > copies of the CD, and is basically just a cool place for Kate's > fans to hang out. I was hoping that you might be interested in > joining it, since you're a fan of Tori Amos. Perhaps your group's > visitors would be interested as well? I'd really appreciate it if > you could check out the team at: http://katebush.fanitorium.com/? > L2282 and let me know your thoughts. > > Thank you! > Lauren, M80 > lauren@m80im.com > www.m80im.com/www.m80teams.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:07:42 -0800 (PST) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: *WAVES* and *HUGS* Hello to Chris and Jessica! It was so nice to check ecto and see your names. Chris, I'll never forget your visit to us in, uh, whenever it was that you visited us. I dug out some pictures. Chris at the "Cool Thing" in O'Hare Airport: http://rhodeshows.com/images/CoolThing_med.jpg Chris (nice hat!) and Dave Datta at Katemas (what year was that, 1993?): http://rhodeshows.com/images/Katemas_4_med.jpg Chris, Chris and I live in a 3-bedroom now. We got out of that horrid teeny 1 bedroom years ago. Chip at that same Katemas! http://rhodeshows.com/images/Katemas_1_med.jpg I have a bunch of Jessica with Happy and Kevin. Jessica, do you need copies of the Diner photos? Jessica with (from left to right) meth, me, Angelos, Kevin Bartlett and I don't know the other people), after Happy's concert in Philly, March 1992 (big pic): http://rhodeshows.com/images/HappyRhodesLive_UMA_03-21-92_HappyVan2.jpg It's so good to see your names. Jessica, special *HUGS* to you. You are very special to me. Must go now, Vickie - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Music, all I hear is music, guaranteed to please... - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:41:34 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: *WAVES* and *HUGS* Hi, Xenu's Sister wrote: > Jessica with (from left to right) meth, me, Angelos, Kevin > Bartlett and I don't know the other people), after Happy's > concert in Philly, March 1992 (big pic): Wow. I think I recognize the half a guy standing behind Jessica as Dave Steiner. And the guy standing all the way to the right is someone who I know I will do a *headdesk* when I finally figure out who it is. :} - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V11 #320 ***************************