From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V11 #277 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, October 12 2005 Volume 11 : Number 277 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Ridiculously late to Kate [Yngve Hauge ] Kate Bush in today's Guardian [adamk@zoom.co.uk] Re: Ridiculously late to Kate [gordodo@optonline.net] Re: Ridiculously late to Kate [Ethan Straffin ] Charlotte Martin [Neile Graham ] RE: Charlotte Martin ["Collected Sounds" <2345@collectedsounds.com>] Re: king of the mountain @ sony music store [Profjava@aol.com] Tape to computer [Neile Graham ] RE: Charlotte Martin [Neile Graham ] "king of the mountain" review. [Ms Heidi Maier Subject: Re: Ridiculously late to Kate mandag 10 oktober 2005, 23:09, skrev du : > How I hate to admit this, given how long I've loved Happy's music and > basically worshipped the water upon which Tori Amos and Peter Gabriel > walk, but it's true: I'm only now figuring out that Kate Bush is > completely batshit brilliant. > Hear Hear! I actually couldn't resist filling up my radio show yesterday with lots of KaTe - not from HoL or The Dreaming though but from Never For Ever, Sensual World and Lionheart. One of my listeners have just created a mailinglist for my show - it is gonna be in norwegian, so it is only an option for people from Scandinavia or others out there knowing any of Danish, Swedish or Norwegion. Anyways - you'll find the info at http://list.pvv.org/mailman/listinfo/ate ... and how to listen to my show at http://www.radio-px.no (links at the righthand side). - -- Yngve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:46:05 +0100 From: adamk@zoom.co.uk Subject: Kate Bush in today's Guardian Well, actually an article about her recording Hello Earth for Hounds of Love, written by someone who gave a hand with it. An interesting insight, even for this heretic ;-) adam k. - ----------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://webmail.zoom.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:03:20 -0400 From: gordodo@optonline.net Subject: Re: Ridiculously late to Kate personally, i would like to borrow the truck, aim it at my pain in the butt neighbor's house and play Diamanda Galas - songs of malediction and howling (but hey, thats just me...) BTW, the only reason i have kept the diamanda galas cd i have is to use in sonic retribution to my neighbors for playing disco music in their backyard at 2am - i cannot stand listening to it myself - -jason np Veda Hille - Return of the Killdeer Frida Hyvonen - Until Death Comes and Kristin Hersh - Instant Live - Boston MA 2004ish - ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve VanDevender Date: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:51 pm Subject: Re: Ridiculously late to Kate > meredith writes: > > Hi, > > > > Steve VanDevender wrote: > > > > > ....or bring by the truck with the > > > 50,000 watt speakers and play "Hounds of Love" at you. > > > > Shouldn't that be _The Dreaming_? That album was, after all, > "made to > > be played loud". ;) > > It is a dimly remembered bit from the Love-Hounds days; I think the > 50,000 watt speaker truck was originally intended to help some > hereticalmusic critic see the light of KaTe. > > There is, of course, still the schism over whether _The Dreaming_ or > _Hounds of Love_ is Kate's greatest album. I'm not having that > conversation :-). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:23:17 -0700 From: Ethan Straffin Subject: Re: Ridiculously late to Kate Actually, I could see mixing Diamanda Galas with early-'90s eurodance and having it really work. Okay, so shoot me, Ethan gordodo@optonline.net wrote: >personally, i would like to borrow the truck, aim it at my pain in the butt neighbor's house and play Diamanda Galas - songs of malediction and howling (but hey, thats just me...) > >BTW, the only reason i have kept the diamanda galas cd i have is to use in sonic retribution to my neighbors for playing disco music in their backyard at 2am - i cannot stand listening to it myself > >-jason > >np Veda Hille - Return of the Killdeer > Frida Hyvonen - Until Death Comes > and Kristin Hersh - Instant Live - Boston MA 2004ish ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:47:48 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Charlotte Martin Okay, for me until now she's been all about promise. I've liked most of most of her work so far but haven't really been knocked out, and I felt that she really hadn't come into her own yet. There were multiple flashes of terrific things, but you know I've seen those in a lot of artists and wound up disappointed, especially the ones signed to big labels. Well, the preliminary samples for her upcoming album, _Veins_ show that she really has broken through. These are amazing. Intricate songs with all kinds of passion. The title track knocks me off my chair. If you can handle wading through her website to get to the samples for _Veins_, do so. This is terrific stuff. - --Neile - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham .... neile@sff.net/@drizzle.com ... www.sff.net/people/neile Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal ........ www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines Editor, The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ........... www.ectoguide.org Workshop Administrator, Clarion West ................ www.clarionwest.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:26:58 -0500 From: "Collected Sounds" <2345@collectedsounds.com> Subject: RE: Charlotte Martin Neile said: >If you can handle wading through her website to get to the samples >for _Veins_, do so. This is terrific stuff. I agree. But then again I've been completely in her camp for awhile now. I recently posted my review of the EP (the tracks were sent to me digitally--no, I can't share, sorry!). http://www.collectedsounds.com/cdreviews/veins.html For those of you without internet: "Veins" by Charlotte Martin I am a big fan of Charlotte already, and it's no surprise that I love this EP. Title track "Veins" is really cool, funky, atmospheric. More so than usual for her. "Bones" begins like a lullaby with soft tinkling piano. This sounds like vintage Charlotte (can there be such a thing for someone so young?). It sounds very similar to "Sweet Chariot" from "On Your Shore" (Charlotte's previous full length CD). "Under the Gravel Skies" is very funky almost ambient, echoey vocals. Very haunting with a little Sinead O'Conner style thrown in. "Four Walls" shows she is sounding less and less like Tori/Kate as she matures. This one is almost disco. I can certainly see this playing in dance clubs. Track five has some very pretty piano, sounds like wind and rain, has a lo-fi quality to it. Since it's called "Cars on Crescent" I'm guessing that's cars whizzing by that we're hearing. It's a lovely instrumental piece. "Days of the Week" is more minimalist than other songs, her voice is really upfront. She goes through the days of the week and what's happening on those days. It's got the feeling of a little ditty. Sweet little song. The beginning of "Root" sounds like it could be a Sesame Street song then morphs into a Dresden Dolls-ish tune in the middle. This also a bit minimal sounding at times, but Char is nothing if not great at the crescendo and it shows in this song where it really busts out in parts. I love that. "On Your Shore" Live version is track 8. Might be a hidden track on the completed version. Aside from some overly excited screetcher-fan at the end it's a lovely recording. Posted on October 7, 2005 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:12:51 EDT From: Profjava@aol.com Subject: Re: king of the mountain @ sony music store Sorry to be late in reading all this. I have had a lot of catching up to do. In a message dated 9/29/2005 10:51:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, afries@internode.on.net writes: By consistently refusing ALL OF THEM! Don't you think they know perfectly well they are trying to ram copy protection down our throats against our wishes? Of course they do, and you can bet they are watching the results like hawks. I do not doubt for a second they will compare, corelate and detect any trends if they are there to be detected! They will not mistake it for lack of interest in the genre or the artist, because they will not be looking at one piece of info in isolation, but at all kinds of data across the board. I don't think one can be sure that the record companies will definitely "not mistake" a lack of sales of a cd for lack of interest in the artist unless you find another way to buy an album, such as via iTunes downloads or something. Then I wonder if they might conclude people don't care to use their cd players any more and everyone has moved to iPods and MP3 players, which in my case is not true because I always drag behind in buying new, expensive hardware products I don't really yet need. I still don't have an MP3 player yet other than those included in my computer's capabilities. I mostly listen to cd's still. If I started to buy mainly MP3 format such as from iTunes, I suppose that I can't make myself as good quality an AIFF copy of the songs for my cd player as I would get from the store. I suppose I would have to start getting an MP3 player cd player for my car and stereo and stop using the old technology I was used to. I'm not sure what to do about this "anti-piracy" situation on new cd's for sale, such as in considering buying this upcoming Kate Bush item. I do not want to be accidentally installing malware on my computer if I ever happen to stick a cd into my computer cd player while working on my computer or writing to friends about a cd. Usually when I communicate to friends about music, I do put the cd I'm writing about in the computer to double check myself while writing, but otherwise I listen on my stereo or car cd player. Another reason this is applicable to me is that I sometimes make a backup copy of a cd for using in the car because sometimes I wear out my car copy from the heat of the car. It is rare for me to dub anything for anyone else - usually I only might make a mix cd for friends of music I like of things that are mostly out of print that they can't hear any other way and it's not something that comes up much with regard to new commercial cd's. But making a backup for myself comes up a lot. Also I wouldn't want my computer altered in any way from just putting a cd into the player to listen to a cd on my computer occasionally while using the internet. I'm also busy these days trying to learn how to archive a lot of old live music cassettes from years ago to CD before they crumble and am not sure what is the best hardware/software to use for that on my computers. I know how to transfer my VHS things to DVD on my computer via a Canopus bridge but nothing about simple audio cassette tapes to CD. (You don't use an analog bridge for audio, so I'm confused. Am trying to read over some of the suggestions a couple of people made about using CD player audio output jacks and somehow connecting to the computer sound card.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:56:30 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: Tape to computer At 9:12 PM -0400 10/11/05, Profjava@aol.com wrote: > >I'm also busy these days trying to learn how to archive a lot of old live >music cassettes from years ago to CD before they crumble and am not >sure what is >the best hardware/software to use for that on my computers. I know how to >transfer my VHS things to DVD on my computer via a Canopus bridge but nothing >about simple audio cassette tapes to CD. (You don't use an analog bridge for >audio, so I'm confused. Am trying to read over some of the >suggestions a couple of >people made about using CD player audio output jacks and somehow connecting to >the computer sound card.) I bought a patch cord that connects the left & right channels of my tape player to the sound input jack of my computer. I'm on a Mac but I'm sure it's similar on a PC. - --Neile n.p. Fiona Apple, Extraordinary Machine -- terrific! - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham .... neile@sff.net/@drizzle.com ... www.sff.net/people/neile Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal ........ www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines Editor, The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ........... www.ectoguide.org Workshop Administrator, Clarion West ................ www.clarionwest.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:57:20 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: RE: Charlotte Martin At 5:26 PM -0500 10/11/05, Collected Sounds wrote: >"Four Walls" shows she is sounding less and less like Tori/Kate as she >matures. This one is almost disco. I can certainly see this playing >in dance clubs. "Four Walls" reminds me, in a very good way, of Kym Brown. - --Neile - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham .... neile@sff.net/@drizzle.com ... www.sff.net/people/neile Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal ........ www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines Editor, The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ........... www.ectoguide.org Workshop Administrator, Clarion West ................ www.clarionwest.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:03:57 +1000 From: Ms Heidi Maier Subject: "king of the mountain" review. from pitchfork media: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/tracks/05-10-11.shtml Kate Bush: "King of the Mountain" genre: pop Especially since Lesley Herskovits, loser-hero of John Mendelssohn's Waiting for Kate Bush, put off killing himself just so he could hear the aforementioned Brit songstress's new album, it's too bad "King of the Mountain" doesn't sound like twelve years in the making. Not that it's mom-rock or anything. Bush's pipes just don't weird us out like they used to. The song's as contrived as it is billowy and ethereal, and she's swapped talk of Wuthering Heights for ruminations on Elvis ("Another Hollywood waitress/ Is telling us she's having your baby/ And there's a rumour that you're on ice/ And you will rise again someday"), all set to 1980s chirps gone new age. Reason enough for Lesley Herskovits to live-- still, he's probably wondering, "Baboosh- wha?" [Rachel Khong] ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V11 #277 ***************************