From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V11 #264 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, September 29 2005 Volume 11 : Number 264 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: king of the mountain @ sony music store [meredith ] RE: Live 8 dvds to be released ["Mark B" ] Kate single on iTunes (and elsewhere)! Re: Troy Shadbolt has suggested an album for you on iTunes ["Xenu's Siste] Re: king of the mountain @ sony music store [Troy J Shadbolt ] Re: king of the mountain @ sony music store ["afries@internode.on.net" ] OT: Serenity 09.30.05 ["Scallion, K.D." ] Re: king of the mountain @ sony music store [Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: king of the mountain @ sony music store Hi, neal copperman wrote: > Heh, that will test people's boycotting abilities! Well, according to amazon.de there is a vinyl version of both the single and the entire album coming -- there's no way to copy-protect *that*. ;> Troy, by "in all markets" did you mean "the entire world"? I should think that at least one pressing out there somewhere won't have the copy protection on it... - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:26:07 -0400 From: "Mark B" Subject: RE: Live 8 dvds to be released Thanks for the feedback. I am purchasing my update of Sonar 5 which has vocal correction abilities. The sad thing about that article is that the artists who signed up to perform do not have the right to protest what is being done with their performance. Luckilly most of us grabbed a copy of Pink Floyd's performance at the time it was happening. It will be interesting to compare the different performances by different performers. I agree about the fact that artists have a vocal quality and some have bad days. It seems funny that they don't have a say in what is done to their performance, even if it is for charity. I am just happy that hell freezed over, pigs flew over the blue moon...and Roger, Dave, Nick and Rick were all on the same stage! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:32:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Kate single on iTunes (and elsewhere)! Re: Troy Shadbolt has suggested an album for you on iTunes (oops, forgot to change address to ecto. Sorry Troy!) - --- tjshadb@voyuz.net wrote: > It's almost hard to believe. Somebody pinch me. A new Kate > single available on iTunes... You can only buy it on iTune in the US, but the Sony Store is letting people outside the US buy it. I take it you just have to put in a US zip code (mine is 60625, Beverly Hills is 90218, if I remember correctly). Lots of overseaers on the Kate forum have been buying it with no problem. http://www.sonymusicstore.com/store/catalog/MerchandiseDetails.jsp?merchId=90581&skuId=90599 It sounds MUCH better than the BBC or Dutch radio copies. There are cool little things going on in the background that you can now hear. Support Kate, please! The single/album is going to die a quick death here in the US due to lack of promotion. The single/album isn't even listed on upcoming releases on iTunes or the Columbia web site. There's no promotion whatsoever anywhere! It's not even a featured track on iTunes, on in the New Releases there either. It'll also die a quick death in the UK due to incompetence. The song is being played, somewhat, on the radio, but the single itself won't be available for another month! Please support high-quality music, in every format available, any way you can. Thank goodness for Entertainment Weekly, which picked Aerial as the #3 most anticipated album of the year. Vickie - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Music, all I hear is music, guaranteed to please... - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ - -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 06:54:51 -0700 From: Troy J Shadbolt Subject: Re: king of the mountain @ sony music store The people at Sony are saying that this CD is the first one they release that will include DRM in all pressings, using different technology depending on the location. The EMI Canada site already has Aerial listed with "Copy Protected" in the description which is required under Canadian Law... Too bad disclosure isn't required here. Quoting meredith : > Hi, > > neal copperman wrote: > > Heh, that will test people's boycotting abilities! > > Well, according to amazon.de there is a vinyl version of both the single > and the entire album coming -- there's no way to copy-protect *that*. ;> > > Troy, by "in all markets" did you mean "the entire world"? I should > think that at least one pressing out there somewhere won't have the copy > protection on it... > > -- > =============================================== > Meredith Tarr > New Haven, CT USA > mailto:meth@smoe.org > http://www.smoe.org/meth > =============================================== > hear at the HOMe House Concert Series > http://hom.smoe.org > =============================================== > - -- troy j shadbolt www.voyuz.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:51:34 -0400 From: DanStark <2005.carnivore99@verizon.net> Subject: Re: king of the mountain @ sony music store All somebody has to do to copy it to MP3s is plug the audio output of a CD player into their sound card and click "record". That's not so hard, is it? It will surely be on P2P in no time, so once again the only thing Sony is going to accomplish with this is to piss off legitimate customers. Stupid, as usual. Poor Kate, she'll probably lose sales on this as I'm sure lots of people will return those defective discs back to the stores. >The people at Sony are saying that this CD is the first one they release that >will include DRM in all pressings, using different technology >depending on the >location. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 07:55:26 -0700 (PDT) From: jmgurley@drizzle.com Subject: Re: Kate Bush - Aerial Contents rumors On some Scottish newspaper web-site article I read that the cd will consist of one thirty minute song for the first cd and then seven songs on the second cd. You can take this rumor for what it is, though as Neile says, hey, it's Kate, so anything's possible. - -J ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:10:03 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Kate Bush - Aerial Contents rumors Hi, jmgurley@drizzle.com wrote: > On some Scottish newspaper web-site article I read that the cd will > consist of one thirty minute song for the first cd and then seven songs on > the second cd. You can take this rumor for what it is, though as Neile > says, hey, it's Kate, so anything's possible. The track listing, according to this web site (http://www.screamingcd.com/music/?itemid=7132) is as follows: CD1-- 1. King Of The Mountain 2. Pi 3. Lovely Bertie 4. Mrs. Bartolozzi 5. How To Be Invisible 6. Joani 7. The Coral Room - -- CD 2 - -- 1. Prolog 2. Watching The Painter 3. Sunset 4. Somewhere In Between 5. Dream 6. Aerial ... not sure which one, if any is the half-hour track. My guess is it's the last one on disc 2, but I'm just pulling that right out of my you-know-what. :) The more I listen to the single, the more excited I'm getting for this record. It better not suck. ;) - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 06:59:50 +0950 From: "afries@internode.on.net" Subject: Re: king of the mountain @ sony music store > Heh, that will test people's boycotting abilities! Well I for one will definitely not buy it if this is the case. I'll just download a ripped version if I can, or do without if I must, but there is no way on earth I would buy a copy-protected disk. There is absolutely nothing that could change or even challenge my position on this subject. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:15:32 -0700 From: Bowen Simmons Subject: Re: king of the mountain @ sony music store If you REALLY want to screw over the system, buy, open, and return for a refund works even better - and you can do it again and again with different retailers and different disks. Bowen On Sep 28, 2005, at 2:09 PM, afries@internode.on.net wrote: >> Heh, that will test people's boycotting abilities! > > Well I for one will definitely not buy it if this is the > case. I'll just download a ripped version if I can, or do > without if I must, but there is no way on earth I would buy > a copy-protected disk. There is absolutely nothing that > could change or even challenge my position on this subject. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:30:12 +0000 From: ken_d.lists@comcast.net (Ken Descoteaux) Subject: SiG 4 (& Milla) SiG4 sounds great Vickie! I'm looking forward to the track listing since there are several artists that I can't identify... You caused me to lose several hours of work this week. First I started wondering whatever happened to Pamela Golden and doing web searching. And that sent me off on Milla, but there at least I found something. There are 14 "demo" mp3 files available for download here: http://www.millaj.com/music/demos.shtml I haven't had a chance to listen to them yet. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 15:17:29 -0700 From: Michael Pearce Subject: Re: iTunes At 1:55 AM -0400 9/28/05, Leslie V wrote: >Yeah, too bad it hasn't been released on iTunes Canada -- or iTunes UK. >That's certainly an interesting licensing glitch for those of us without as >US credit card address. > >L You can always use iTunes Gift Cards. Those work across borders. Should be a place on the net you can mail-order them. (I get cards for the iTMS Japan store from jlist.com.) Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:46:32 -0700 From: "Scallion, K.D." Subject: OT: Serenity 09.30.05 For any Firefly fans out there. Please, please see Serenity this weekend (and multiple times if you like it.) Tell your family and friends. Thanks. Kristen - ----- Original Message ----- From: Browncoats To: Kristen Scallion Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: Serenity 09.30.05 Hey Browncoats, We have just a few more days to go! Serenity will be in theaters this Friday, September 30! Today, Joss posted this message for all Browncoats on the message boards: Well boys and girls and boys dressed as girls and girls dressed as Kaylee, the time is almost upon us. This Friday we take that old rust-bucket out of the shipyard and see if she can breach atmo. It's been a long (to paraphrase a band I like) strange trip, and it'll be nice finally to show everybody what it is we've been tinkering with all this time. You already know you have my thanks, from the hardcore fans to the softcore... fans.... let me try that again. From the people manning the booths, buying DVD sets for their friends, getting banners seen everywhere on Australian TV, raffling artwork for ticketholders (Adam Hughes, take a bow), to the most casual fan who just wants to see the flick and won't ever even read this. You guys are the fuel in the engine, the Fire in the Fly, the weird green stuff coming out of Serenity's butt. (Hmmm. Forget that last one. I'm a little bit out of control here.) Everyone needs something to keep them going. Mal has his ship. Zoe has her integrity. Jayne has Vera. And I've got you guys. So what now? There have been so many posts about seeing it, seeing it again, the first weekend, the second weekend, being enthusiastic without being obnoxious (and yes, it IS hard to see over the pom-pom of a Jayne hat), buying tickets in advance, making a noise... I honestly wouldn't know what to add. I can tell you this: the movie will play in about 2200 hundred theaters, which is a good number. Too many, and you get empty theaters with no energy -- not enough, and you get, well, not enough. It may be hard to find in some areas but it'll be out there. Leave no multiplex unturned! This is going to be a ground war, peeps -- we have to hold the valley for a long while. However it opens, it needs to HOLD. Instead of the Alliance we'll be fighting viewer apathy, fear of something new, the urge to wait for DVD, and Jessica Alba in a bikini. (Although I have it on good authority that she spends 90% of the film in a huge wooly parka. Make sure that gets out.) The day this puppy opens, I'll be seeing it with my family (don't worry, there's a lot of them, and they're all paying) and then I'm off to Europe to learn the word 'Browncoats' in nine different languages -- 'cause like I said, it's all about holding. I'll never be far from a computer, though, so I can check in with y'all. Thanks for every damn thing. And remember, amidst all the urgency to make this an event, all the work and the worry, to take two hours and just enjoy yourself. That is, after all, what all this fighting's about. - -joss. You can read his post at http://browncoats.serenitymovie.com/serenity We also have lots of other Browncoat news: If you haven't been to The Browncoats in a while you should know that the store has been stocked with all types of shiny Serenity-themed items. You can redeem all those credits you have been working so hard for! In order to help you organize your Opening Day Shindigs, we have created a specialized Serenity Evite! Click here to get it and invite all your friends to your Shindigs to celebrate the opening of the BDM! The Serenity Renegade mobile game is now available. You can download it to your phone at http://www.indiagames.com/serenity And finally, help promote Serenity! On the Browncoats site we have a flyer and an iron-on you can print out and use to help to get the word out about Serenity! So come join us as we count down the final days to the release of Serenity at The Browncoats! Keep Flyin'! S_L ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 10:45:35 -0700 From: Sue Trowbridge Subject: Re: king of the mountain @ sony music store > >The people at Sony are saying that this CD is the first one they release that > >will include DRM in all pressings, using different technology > >depending on the > >location. Maybe I'm being dense here, but what does this mean for those of us who habitually buy CDs and then rip them so we can transfer the songs to our iPods? I always figured I was well within my rights to do that... it's just a more high-tech version of what I used to do as a kid (tape my LPs so I could listen to them on my Walkman). - --Sue ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V11 #264 ***************************