From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V11 #261 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, September 26 2005 Volume 11 : Number 261 Today's Subjects: ----------------- A "Who's That Artist" query [Neile Graham ] RE: A "Who's That Artist" query ["Southpaw" ] Re: A "Who's That Artist" query ["Peter Clark" ] RE: Live 8 dvds to be released ["Mark B" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 17:30:21 -0700 From: Neile Graham Subject: A "Who's That Artist" query Turns out it's the British band Hank Dogs, "Let Go" and "Bareback" from their 1998 CD _Bareback_, which I will get locating a copy of quickly, oh yes I will. http://www.hankdogs.co.uk - --Neile > >An acquaintance gave me a compilation without any attributions, and >there's a song that I can't figure out who it's by. When I listen I >think I should know, but I can't figure it out. I've tried googling >the lyrics, and all I find is that it was used in Felicity and >someone's been trying to figure out who it is, too, with no luck. >Even tried felicitysongs.com and it's not there, either (so did the >other person who's looking for the song). Her accent sounds >English, and I think she sounds like Beth Orton vocally, but Jim >disagrees. > >Anyway, here are the lyrics: > >Here we are, you've moved on >In my heart I know you're not gone >Gotta find ways to shed this old skin > >Where were you, were you in that room >Were you watching as I wept for you >[ ] next to your body so still > >Won't let go >Don't wanna lose >Won't let go >Don't wanna lose >I won't let go >And I don't wanna lose anymore > >These emotions it's like giving birth >When it's taken it's all in reverse >It's a whole new way to think about this > >Won't let go >Don't wanna lose >Won't let go >Don't wanna lose >I won't let go >And I don't wanna lose anymore > >Nice guitar work, too. > >The song is followed by one by what sounds like the same artist with >a Spanish flavour that starts off "Jimmy said he wanted a favour / >Said he'd pay me $50 / told him it was worth more / on account of >him being ugly / and later he agreed." Thanks in advance. > >--Neile - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham .... neile@sff.net/@drizzle.com ... www.sff.net/people/neile Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal ........ www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines Editor, The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ........... www.ectoguide.org Workshop Administrator, Clarion West ................ www.clarionwest.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 01:39:01 -0500 From: "Southpaw" Subject: RE: A "Who's That Artist" query I highly recommend the Hank Dogs! I own both CDs and find them rather enjoyable! Wade - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Neile Graham Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 7:30 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: A "Who's That Artist" query Turns out it's the British band Hank Dogs, "Let Go" and "Bareback" from their 1998 CD _Bareback_, which I will get locating a copy of quickly, oh yes I will. http://www.hankdogs.co.uk - --Neile > >An acquaintance gave me a compilation without any attributions, and >there's a song that I can't figure out who it's by. When I listen I >think I should know, but I can't figure it out. I've tried googling >the lyrics, and all I find is that it was used in Felicity and >someone's been trying to figure out who it is, too, with no luck. >Even tried felicitysongs.com and it's not there, either (so did the >other person who's looking for the song). Her accent sounds >English, and I think she sounds like Beth Orton vocally, but Jim >disagrees. > >Anyway, here are the lyrics: > >Here we are, you've moved on >In my heart I know you're not gone >Gotta find ways to shed this old skin > >Where were you, were you in that room >Were you watching as I wept for you >[ ] next to your body so still > >Won't let go >Don't wanna lose >Won't let go >Don't wanna lose >I won't let go >And I don't wanna lose anymore > >These emotions it's like giving birth >When it's taken it's all in reverse >It's a whole new way to think about this > >Won't let go >Don't wanna lose >Won't let go >Don't wanna lose >I won't let go >And I don't wanna lose anymore > >Nice guitar work, too. > >The song is followed by one by what sounds like the same artist with >a Spanish flavour that starts off "Jimmy said he wanted a favour / >Said he'd pay me $50 / told him it was worth more / on account of >him being ugly / and later he agreed." Thanks in advance. > >--Neile - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham .... neile@sff.net/@drizzle.com ... www.sff.net/people/neile Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal ........ www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines Editor, The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ........... www.ectoguide.org Workshop Administrator, Clarion West ................ www.clarionwest.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 23:46:07 -0700 From: "Peter Clark" Subject: Re: A "Who's That Artist" query Don't miss "Half Smile", either. Arguably better. Peter C High Performance Analogue www.redpoint-audio-design.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neile Graham" To: Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 5:30 PM Subject: A "Who's That Artist" query > Turns out it's the British band Hank Dogs, "Let Go" and "Bareback" > from their 1998 CD _Bareback_, which I will get locating a copy of > quickly, oh yes I will. http://www.hankdogs.co.uk > > --Neile > > >> >>An acquaintance gave me a compilation without any attributions, and >>there's a song that I can't figure out who it's by. When I listen I >>think I should know, but I can't figure it out. I've tried googling >>the lyrics, and all I find is that it was used in Felicity and >>someone's been trying to figure out who it is, too, with no luck. >>Even tried felicitysongs.com and it's not there, either (so did the >>other person who's looking for the song). Her accent sounds >>English, and I think she sounds like Beth Orton vocally, but Jim >>disagrees. >> >>Anyway, here are the lyrics: >> >>Here we are, you've moved on >>In my heart I know you're not gone >>Gotta find ways to shed this old skin >> >>Where were you, were you in that room >>Were you watching as I wept for you >>[ ] next to your body so still >> >>Won't let go >>Don't wanna lose >>Won't let go >>Don't wanna lose >>I won't let go >>And I don't wanna lose anymore >> >>These emotions it's like giving birth >>When it's taken it's all in reverse >>It's a whole new way to think about this >> >>Won't let go >>Don't wanna lose >>Won't let go >>Don't wanna lose >>I won't let go >>And I don't wanna lose anymore >> >>Nice guitar work, too. >> >>The song is followed by one by what sounds like the same artist with >>a Spanish flavour that starts off "Jimmy said he wanted a favour / >>Said he'd pay me $50 / told him it was worth more / on account of >>him being ugly / and later he agreed." Thanks in advance. >> >>--Neile > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Neile Graham .... neile@sff.net/@drizzle.com ... www.sff.net/people/neile > Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal ........ www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines > Editor, The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ........... www.ectoguide.org > Workshop Administrator, Clarion West ................ www.clarionwest.org ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 07:13:20 -0400 From: "Mark B" Subject: RE: Live 8 dvds to be released On that slightly altered note... Live 8 stars get hi-tech help! It is live, but not as we remember it. Pop stars on the forthcoming Live 8 DVD will have their performances improved with computer trickery, attracting charges that the official record of the concert is being faked. During the long hot day of July 2, several singers, including Bono of U2, went briefly off-key while the performance of others, such as Pete Doherty of Babyshambles, was dismissed by critics as an embarrassment. Blushes will be spared thanks to a computer program called Auto-Tune, described by some as Botox for the vocally challenged. By cutting up and reassembling notes it can erase the wrinkles and bum notes and make a karaoke drunk sound like Frank Sinatra, said one technician, who declined to be named. Auto-Tune has aided singers such as the Spice Girls and Cher, but the four-DVD collection will set its technology against the memory of people who saw the concert. Unlike well-known pop tricks such as lip-synching, Auto-Tune has remained largely a trade secret. Purists loathe it, saying it makes every singer sound similar to Milli Vanilli, the pop act infamously caught miming. Crispin Murray, Live 8s audio producer, confirmed that the DVD due on sale on November 28 had made use of the Auto-Tune technique: We are just setting out to make the artists sound as good as they can. Some of the artists who performed during the biggest live concert in the world have been to a west London studio to assist Murray in tweaking their sound in the mixing room, but this did not involve re-recording vocals. Last week Doherty, who played with the Libertines before his drug problems led him to set up his own group, was recording in the studio next door to Live 8s engineers, but it is not known whether he popped in for a damage report. His erratic performance of Marc Bolans Children of the Revolution with Sir Elton John was roundly dismissed as one of the low points of the global spectacular. Pete Waterman, the veteran pop producer, said that it would need a lot more than tweaking to make the song enjoyable. If they can tune that up, I want that tuner please. That would be a miracle machine, he said. Mind you, every record producer in the world could do with one of them. All the bands who performed at Live 8 surrendered their rights to the performances so nobody can refuse to be on the DVD, as Led Zeppelin did with the original Live Aid show. It was not just musical differences that prevented some bands joining Live 8  politics was a big reason for the Rolling Stones turning down the invitation. Keith Richards, the Stones guitarist, said this weekend that he had not wanted to take part as he found Live 8 a bit nebulous. I couldnt believe the pressure, even from 10 Downing Street, he added. I heartily applaud what they were trying to do, except that it was tied in with government policy and I always try and separate politics and music. Richards said he had been hit on by Sir Bob [Geldof] and Sir Mick [Jagger]. But I said to Mick, We aint doing it, pal. You can do it, but I aint. He added: Bobs a nice bloke and all that, but ultimately hes the one who comes off best, isnt he? Whether it was politics or sound quality that concerned the artists, Alex Needham, deputy editor of NME, the music magazine, said that using Auto-Tune would be cheating the Live 8 audience: It is unforgivable to corrode the authenticity and integrity of the day. Live music is not supposed to be flawless, its all about the emotion. Jill Sinclair, executive in charge of producing the DVD, said: It will be different to the live broadcast and it will be better but in terms of rewriting history, we arent doing that. We are cleaning history up. ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V11 #261 ***************************