From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V11 #214 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, August 9 2005 Volume 11 : Number 214 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Ecto podcast [Paul Schreiber ] Today's your birthday, friends... [Mike Matthews ] new stuff [anna maria "stjärnell" ] RE: new stuff ["Tommi Bäckman" ] Re: Ecto podcast [Paul Schreiber ] Dar Williams' latest. [Adam K ] Emily Bezar in NYC [meredith ] Re: Emily Bezar in NYC [gordodo@optonline.net] Re: Dar Williams' latest. [Doug ] Re: Ecto podcast [Rod Kratochwill ] Re: Emily Bezar in NYC [Paul Blair ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 22:55:19 -0400 From: Paul Schreiber Subject: Re: Ecto podcast meth wrote: > What does iTunes have to do with Podcasting? I thought > iTunes was a big commercial conglomerated place you went > to to buy single songs for 99 cents. You're confounding a few things here: * iTunes is a jukebox/music player program. With it, you can play MP3s, AACs, AIFF, WAV, Apple Lossless, Audible audiobooks (and anything else QuickTime can play). iTunes can also rip CDs, burn CDs, make playlists, etc. * iTunes also lets you: - listen to streaming internet radio - browse and subscribe to podcasts (this is free) * The iTunes music store, available in 19 countries, lets you buy songs or albums (typically 99 cents in the local currency). Paul shad 96c / uw cs 2001 / mac activist / fumbler / eda / headliner / navy-souper fan of / sophie b. / steve poltz / habs / bills / 49ers / "Nobody gets into heaven without a glowstick" -- Homer Simpson [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 03:00:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ****************** Martin Bridges (martin@mandab.co.uk) ******************* **************** Rosana L. de Oliveira (no Email address) ***************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Martin Bridges Sat August 08 1970 BigGuy Rosana L. de Oliveira Wed August 08 1973 Leo Happy Rhodes Mon August 09 1965 HolyGhost Loretta Pontillo Tue August 15 1978 Leo Queen of the Jungle Tori Amos Thu August 22 1963 Leo Sam Warren Tue August 22 1961 Leo Henk Van Wulpen Sat August 22 1970 Leo Kerry White Wed August 22 1951 Exact Leo/Virgo Don Gibson Wed August 26 1959 Virgo Marcel Rijs Mon August 31 1970 A rose growing old Meredith Tarr Wed September 01 1971 Virgo Scott Zimmerman Mon September 04 1972 Virgo Mike Mendelson Fri September 04 1964 Virgo Richard Dean Wed September 06 1967 Virgo Jason Gordon Tue September 07 1976 monkey collector - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 02:47:58 -0700 (PDT) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: new stuff Hi some new stuff.. The Tuna Helpers I'll have what she's having. Weird Kate Bush meets Rasputina faerie tale music. Pretty scary and vivid like Tim Burton's films. www.thetunahelpers.org for info. Astrid Swan Poverina Finnish Kate meets Tori stuff..very classy. Jimi Tenor helped a bit. Ecstasy of St Theresa Slow Tinking Thanks Jason for recommendeing this..lovely and amibitious Czezch ecto. Oh and Rory Merritt Stitt is now known as Rory Stitt and has a new album that I've not heard yet. Anna Maria np-Iva Bittova stuff nr-Emma Donoghue-Slammerkin Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 09:59:11 +0000 From: "Tommi Bäckman" Subject: RE: new stuff I too have to recommend Astrid Swan4s album. it4s very good. I4m Tommi from Finland and recently joined this list. I got introduced to Happy thanks to my friend. Beside her I collect Tori Amos, Rem and Sarah McLachlan. I4m 28 years (a real old-timer) and live in Helsinki. Sincerelly, Tommi >From: anna maria "stjdrnell" >To: ecto@smoe.org >Subject: new stuff >Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 02:47:58 -0700 (PDT) > >Hi >some new stuff.. > >The Tuna Helpers I'll have what she's having. >Weird Kate Bush meets Rasputina faerie tale music. >Pretty scary and vivid like Tim Burton's films. >www.thetunahelpers.org for info. > >Astrid Swan Poverina >Finnish Kate meets Tori stuff..very classy. Jimi Tenor >helped a bit. > > >Ecstasy of St Theresa Slow Tinking > >Thanks Jason for recommendeing this..lovely and >amibitious Czezch ecto. > >Oh and Rory Merritt Stitt is now known as Rory Stitt >and has a new album that I've not heard yet. > >Anna Maria >np-Iva Bittova stuff >nr-Emma Donoghue-Slammerkin >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 10:58:22 -0400 From: Paul Schreiber Subject: Re: Ecto podcast meth wrote: > If iTunes doesn't carry Happy, chances are the only reason for that is > because she has never approached them about it. iTunes has deals with > the major record labels, but independent musicians are welcome too so > long as they take the initiative and contact iTunes about working > out a > deal. Actually, independent _labels_ are welcome to contact iTunes. However, individual unsigned artists must go through an aggregator (CD Baby does). Paul shad 96c / uw cs 2001 / mac activist / fumbler / eda / headliner / navy-souper fan of / sophie b. / steve poltz / habs / bills / 49ers / "I was looking at the Jennifer Lopez liner notes. There are songs on her latest album...[it's] called 'J.Lo' or something, is it? Or 'Jo. Lez'? I don't know. And there were songs that have seven writers -- you know, I mean how many assholes does it take to screw in a light bulb? Get a life already. It's ridiculous." -- Chantal Kreviazuk, in the _McGill Tribune_, 3/20/01 [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 15:51:24 +0100 From: Adam K Subject: Dar Williams' latest. I'm really looking forward to it, but that has to be one of the worst covers I've seen for a long, long time. adam k. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 12:42:11 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Emily Bezar in NYC Hi, This weekend, Emily Bezar returned to the East Coast for the first time in 5 years. She did a double bill with Amy X Neuberg at Makor on the Upper West Side on Saturday night, then played in our living room yesterday evening. At both shows there was an excellent ecto representation in the audience, which was fine to see. At Makor Emily focused on pieces from _Angels' Abacus_, and it was intriguing to see how some of the arrangements differed solo on piano versus the more fleshed-out, synth-arranged tracks on the CD. It was so great to hear that voice live in person again. She was joined on a couple pieces by guitarist Michael Rossi, formerly of The Potato Eaters, who provided some ambient accompaniment. This was my first time seeing Amy X Neuberg perform live, and she was every bit as loopy (literally as well as figuratively) and amazing as I'd been told. She generated all of her sounds on a couple of Midi pads hooked up to a mixer, and she played the pads sometimes with drumsticks and other times just by hitting them with her fist. She would often start by making a percussion track, either with vocal intonations or in one notable case, by brushing her teeth :), and then would loop backing vocals over that to build the music bed, over which she would sing (or speak, or a combination of the two) her song. She is an incredible singer, with an opera degree to match Emily's. She sings in much more of a pop style than Emily does, but still lets it rip pretty often. She did quite a few songs from _Residue_ (including my favorite, "Stone"), and also a couple new things. I would highly recommend Amy to fans of Laurie Anderson's earlier work, and to anyone who enjoys bizarre electronica. For an encore, Emily and Michael Rossi joined Amy on stage and they did the dueling sopranos version of Kurt Weill's "The Alabama Song", with Emily on piano and Amy playing a straight-ahead drum track on her Midi pad, while Rossi did more guitar noodling. It was quite literally stunning, and a great way to end the show. Yesterday Emily took the train up to New Haven, and she played my freshly tuned piano for a solid two hours for the dozen people in attendance. She started off with "Right Back At Me", which is one of the songs I'd been most hoping to hear. She did quite a bit from _Angel's Abacus_, but also did the b-side "Falling Up" (my favorite of the MP3's newly available on emilybezar.com), as well as "Four Walls Bending", "Black Sand", and others from her earlier albums that I'm blanking on now. (Maybe woj can put together a full set list sometime and post it here ... ???) A couple of our regular house concert attendees, who had never heard Emily before came to check her out, and were suitably blown away. Also, a fan who had discovered Emily's music thanks to former ectophile Chris Sampson's radio show on WHUS came to hear her perform for the first time - -- it was really neat to watch his reactions to her playing. (Chris was at Makor with a bunch of his friends, and it was great to see him again.) Aside from the music, we had a great time hanging with Emily again after way too long. She is a truly wonderful person, and is "one of us" as far as being a music geek goes. :) Her music deserves to have a much wider audience. If you have been seeing her name go by in these pages over the years without checking her out, now is the time. - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 13:01:02 -0400 From: gordodo@optonline.net Subject: Re: Emily Bezar in NYC i dont know how to describe it, but certain artists music I listen to and enjoy it immensely and then there are a smaller subset to which when I hear the music, it washes over me and connects on a deeper (almost unconscious) level... the show last night (thanks again meth and woj) was definately fit into the second category [even though the albums never connected to me in such a way yet]....with all the background instrumentation stripped away, emily was even more incredible than on record...i could almost feel my blood pressure drop, my whole body mellow out, and was very much at peace listening to her set (so much so I couldnt keep my eyes open because it was). if you dont have her albums. go. buy. them. now. ok? plus when I got home I slept better than I have in months :) god i love music! jason np Tegan and Sara, Lindi, and Sara Ayers - ----- Original Message ----- From: meredith Date: Monday, August 8, 2005 12:42 pm Subject: Emily Bezar in NYC > Hi, > > This weekend, Emily Bezar returned to the East Coast for the first > time > in 5 years. She did a double bill with Amy X Neuberg at Makor on > the > Upper West Side on Saturday night, then played in our living room > yesterday evening. At both shows there was an excellent ecto > representation in the audience, which was fine to see. > > At Makor Emily focused on pieces from _Angels' Abacus_, and it was > intriguing to see how some of the arrangements differed solo on > piano > versus the more fleshed-out, synth-arranged tracks on the CD. It > was so > great to hear that voice live in person again. She was joined on > a > couple pieces by guitarist Michael Rossi, formerly of The Potato > Eaters, > who provided some ambient accompaniment. > > This was my first time seeing Amy X Neuberg perform live, and she > was > every bit as loopy (literally as well as figuratively) and amazing > as > I'd been told. She generated all of her sounds on a couple of > Midi pads > hooked up to a mixer, and she played the pads sometimes with > drumsticks > and other times just by hitting them with her fist. She would > often > start by making a percussion track, either with vocal intonations > or in > one notable case, by brushing her teeth :), and then would loop > backing > vocals over that to build the music bed, over which she would sing > (or > speak, or a combination of the two) her song. She is an > incredible > singer, with an opera degree to match Emily's. She sings in much > more > of a pop style than Emily does, but still lets it rip pretty often. > > She did quite a few songs from _Residue_ (including my favorite, > "Stone"), and also a couple new things. I would highly recommend > Amy to > fans of Laurie Anderson's earlier work, and to anyone who enjoys > bizarre > electronica. > > For an encore, Emily and Michael Rossi joined Amy on stage and > they did > the dueling sopranos version of Kurt Weill's "The Alabama Song", > with > Emily on piano and Amy playing a straight-ahead drum track on her > Midi > pad, while Rossi did more guitar noodling. It was quite literally > stunning, and a great way to end the show. > > Yesterday Emily took the train up to New Haven, and she played my > freshly tuned piano for a solid two hours for the dozen people in > attendance. She started off with "Right Back At Me", which is one > of > the songs I'd been most hoping to hear. She did quite a bit from > _Angel's Abacus_, but also did the b-side "Falling Up" (my > favorite of > the MP3's newly available on emilybezar.com), as well as "Four > Walls > Bending", "Black Sand", and others from her earlier albums that > I'm > blanking on now. (Maybe woj can put together a full set list > sometime > and post it here ... ???) > > A couple of our regular house concert attendees, who had never > heard > Emily before came to check her out, and were suitably blown away. > Also, > a fan who had discovered Emily's music thanks to former ectophile > Chris > Sampson's radio show on WHUS came to hear her perform for the > first time > -- it was really neat to watch his reactions to her playing. > (Chris was > at Makor with a bunch of his friends, and it was great to see him > again.) > Aside from the music, we had a great time hanging with Emily again > after > way too long. She is a truly wonderful person, and is "one of us" > as > far as being a music geek goes. :) Her music deserves to have a > much > wider audience. If you have been seeing her name go by in these > pages > over the years without checking her out, now is the time. > > > > -- > =============================================== > Meredith Tarr > New Haven, CT USA > mailto:meth@smoe.org > http://www.smoe.org/meth > =============================================== > hear at the HOMe House Concert Series > http://hom.smoe.org > =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 12:10:26 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Dar Williams' latest. I agree...but I'm sure that she thought she was merely "being cute". Silly girl. - --Doug On 8/8/05, Adam K wrote: > I'm really looking forward to it, but that has to be one of the worst > covers I've seen for a long, long time. > > adam k. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:32:25 -0400 From: Rod Kratochwill Subject: Re: Ecto podcast As background here is how Podcasting works for me. I used to listen to radio in the old days before the media consolidation when there were all kinds of music on the radio. That was probably a dozen or more years ago. Since then my new music recommendations have come from places like Ecto, and my high school aged daughter. That's why I'm an almost 50 something parent that listens to bands like Bright Eyes, Frou Frou, The Postal Service, Death Cab for Cutie and the like. Along comes Podcasting and now I subscribe to Podcasts that include lots of indie and "non-RIAA" artists that are providing "Podsafe" music. The Podcast catcher software goes out once or twice a day and looks for the updates (via the RSS files) and downloads the Podcasts (mp3 files) for me so I don't have to use a Web Browser to go look at the 20-30 Podcasts that I subscribe to. I then take those "shows" and put them on my MP3 player. Now I have the equivelent of a personalized radio broadcast that I control, not ClearChannel. I actually include some traditional radio shows that I can't listen to on the radio here in Florida in my personalized radio show. I like KCRW, and Morning Becomes Eclectic Podcasts "Morning Becomes Eclectic live sessions performed by unsigned and independent artists" that I include as well as some Podcast music from Whole Wheat Radio. I also use software to record streaming radio to mp3 files so I am able include music from the home land which for me is the Czech Republic where I find all kinds of interesting music. And there are some shows that are brodcast on Public Radio, like Michio Kaku, that until now I couldn't listen to because of the time of day they are broadcast. Podcasting allows me to hear all kinds of music and spoken word that I was unable to listen to before. >Interesting. Thanks for the links. I've been reading >them. I'll consider it, though it seems awfully complicated >for something that only a handful of people are going to >be interested in, and it's not really a Podcast anyway, >but hey, if it helps you, I'm willing to try and figure >it out. > > I agree it really isn't worth the effort for just a few "listeners". Please don't spend any efforts on that right now, that time is much better spent creating new "shows". There are some Podcasts that have pretty large audiences. I don't know that anyone has published the audience numbers but shows like Adam Curry's Daily Source Code and Dawn and Drew have many thousands of listeners. Wouldn't it be cool to get Happy's music exposed to some of those audiences? I don't know how this will all shake out but I see a potential for artists to develop audiences without having to sell their souls to the record companies. See http://www.podsafemusicnetwork.com for an example of one effort to provide artists a way to get their music "on the air" in podcasts. >I haven't yet figured out if I have to install RSS on >my computer. I hope not. > No you would be on the RSS creating side this time. If you were going to do a Podcast for a larger audience you would create a text file that would go on your server that the people with RSS readers would look at to know when you posted a new Podcast. You would just be updating a file that goes up to the server along side any new MP3 files you uploaded. >I had it last year when I was >trying to be politically aware (snort) and subscribed >to various news feeds, and it was horrible. Everytime >it went to download something my computer would hang >up, and the RSS would just keep grinding on and on, >with very little end gain. I had to crash out many a >time, then finally I just uninstalled it in frustration. >I take it it's all better now? > > I personally use Bloglines a web based RSS reader. All the downloading and grinding happens on their servers and I just get the updates for the sites I've subscribed to as web pages. It works much better for me and I can read my news feeds from any computer. >What does iTunes have to do with Podcasting? I thought >iTunes was a big commercial conglomerated place you went >to to buy single songs for 99 cents. My shows aren't >commercial and will never be for sale. The very thought >is appalling. Why would iTunes offer free content? > iTunes is still everything you describe, but now with even more! :) Recently they added support for Podcast downloading. I'm not sure where the money is right now, other than getting more people to download iTunes and looking at the iTunes store while looking for Podcasts, but I'm sure that there will eventually be Podcasts for sale at 99 cents a show. Right now it allows people who use iTunes (I guess there are quite a few of them) to try out this Podcasting thing to see what it's all about. The iTunes site has a directory of Podcasts that directs listeners to Podcasts of different subjects. It also allows you to subscribe to podcasts that are not part of the iTunes directory. I listen to several "indie" Podcasters that have seen large increases in thier audience once iTunes started providing supporting for Podcasts. >That makes no sense to me. They must have morphed when >I wasn't looking. The only other thing I know about >iTunes is that they don't have any Happy, because Chris >checked once and mentioned it, and is the main reason I >haven't paid any attention to iTunes since. > > That is still one of the reasons my older daughter and I don't use iTunes that much as the library of artists and music that they have doesn't include many of the artists we listen to. We still spend our CD money at Saddle Creek, CD Baby and places like that. My younger daughter on the other hand is very fond of pop music and can find much of the music she likes for 99 cents a track rather than spending the price for a full CD which only has one song she likes. So for her (and my wallet) being able to buy 10 favorite songs instead of 10 CD's is a real bargain. Rod ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 21:06:10 -0400 From: Paul Blair Subject: Re: Emily Bezar in NYC Meredith wrote: >This was my first time seeing Amy X Neuberg perform live, and she >was every bit as loopy (literally as well as figuratively) and >amazing as I'd been told.... She would often start by making a >percussion track, either with vocal intonations or in one notable >case, by brushing her teeth :), Actually, that was in two notable cases. As she mentioned that she was busy upgrading her technology, the second time she pulled out an electric toothbrush... ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V11 #214 ***************************