From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V11 #125 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, May 6 2005 Volume 11 : Number 125 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos [Nadyne Mielke ] Golden ocean- 50 Ft Wave [Karen Hester ] Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos [Ethan Straffin ] Antony and the Johnson [Craig Gidney ] Re: tori and other new stuff [Bernie Mojzes ] Re: Off Topic: How to setup Anonymous Browsing? [Paul Schreiber ] Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos ["Michael Quinn" ] Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos [Doug ] Brian Eno song news! [Neile Graham ] I just realized [Doug ] Re: Mylene Farmer / Avant que l'ombre... ["Gabriel Laverdiere" ] Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos [John Higdon ] Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos [John Higdon ] Re: I just realized [Dan Stark <2005.carnivore99@verizon.net>] Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos [John Higdon ] Re: I just realized ["Xenu's Sister" ] Request for Imogen Heap CD [John Higdon ] Re: I just realized [Bernie Mojzes ] Re: I just realized [Greg Bossert ] Re: I just realized [Bernie Mojzes ] Re: I just realized ["Xenu's Sister" ] Leslie Helpert? [neal copperman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:38:35 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos On 04 May 2005, at 12:06, John Higdon wrote: [snip] > Certainly not at the top, but also not at the bottom, where the > frequently appalling "Strange Little Girls" will hopefully never be > undercut. Am I really the only one around who doesn't mind SLG? I can't call it a masterwork, but I listen to it significantly more often than BfP. I adore her cover of 'Rattlesnakes' and 'I'm Not in Love'. Okay, okay, so I wouldn't complain if I never heard her covers of 'Heart of Gold' or 'Happiness is a Warm Gun' again, but they don't grate on my nerves like, say, 'Professional Widow'. I know, I know, lots of people love Pele. As an album, it's my least favourite Tori album. I like the individual songs, but I think that the album is too long by about 20 minutes. For that matter, I vastly prefer live versions of all of the songs. (Actually, that pretty much sums up my opinion of the latest album. Most of the album versions just kinda run together, whereas I very much like the live versions.) /nm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:46:17 +0930 From: "Lloyd, Bronwyn (NWAHS)" Subject: Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos Well I was really disappointed when I first heard it - it took me quite a few listens but now I cannot keep it off the cd player - I absolutely adore it. And when I see her live next week in Adelaide :-) I'm sure the songs will take on new meaning for me. BTW has anyone seen this gig yet? Is she touring with the two guys who play with her on "Welcome to Sunny Florida"? Bronny [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:03:04 +1200 From: Karen Hester Subject: tori and other new stuff Kia ora, I know what you mean, Ethan, it's a bit much when someone dismisses an album you really like without listening to it much. The thing is, I have had it on to the end several times, but I can't remember the second half because I've tuned out. If I had that read-the-lyrics urge maybe I'd hear what you hear, but as JoAnn points out, there's so much great stuff right now, and I don't live with one album alone for several months like I did when I first discovered non-classical music. I miss knowing albums so intimately, but probably can't go back to that. How I listen and how much I know about music has changed. Can anyone listen to one album over and over for months still? When I get to know something too well, the music plays in my head simultaneous to the real sounds, and there's no excitement because everything happens exactly when it's supposed to. Then those songs don't give me a high anymore, though they're still pretty or comforting or whatever. Is the new Jorane old stuff re-released, English stuff or what? Anyone have opinions on the new Maria McKee, Mary Timony, Aimee Mann? Karen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:26:22 +1200 From: Karen Hester Subject: Golden ocean- 50 Ft Wave Thanks Steve and nameless-invisible-to-google person, the lyrics look like a way in. I'm a big Muses & Kristin fan (particularly early/mid) and I'm in the mood for very loud music at the moment so I'll sit down with the lyrics and headphones. From: Bernie Mojzes >the best description of 50 ft wave would be that this is what happens when >you breed throwing muses with nirvana. Cripes, will listen with that in mind. I was just trawling through the 3cd Nirvana set and feeling nostalgic. I'll listen more to the album rather than ep, maybe it'll give me the breath I need. >but then again, i tend to like the work people do while they are still >struggling to find their voice. i think one of the worst things about >the music industry nowadays is that they try to fully "develop" an artist >before releasing them into the wild. makes those wonderfully awkward, >stumbling first albums much harder to come by. Ooh, so often the case. Kate's demos are so otherworldy and youthful, early Throwing Muses so complex and messy and raw (and yet so musical), Patty Griffin's first mightn't have perfectly cultivated melodies but it's so intense. I'm also partial to The Libertine's first (Up the bracket), that was my passion of last year. K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 00:18:26 -0700 From: Ethan Straffin Subject: Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos Nadyne Mielke wrote: > > Am I really the only one around who doesn't mind SLG? I can't call it > a masterwork, but I listen to it significantly more often than BfP. I > adore her cover of 'Rattlesnakes' and 'I'm Not in Love'. Okay, okay, > so I wouldn't complain if I never heard her covers of 'Heart of Gold' > or 'Happiness is a Warm Gun' again, but they don't grate on my nerves > like, say, 'Professional Widow'. Heh. Yes. When I say "largely failed," I only mean that there are more songs that don't work for me than songs that do, and SLG is the only Tori album that I can say that about, apart from *possibly*... > I know, I know, lots of people love Pele. As an album, it's my least > favourite Tori album. I like the individual songs, but I think that > the album is too long by about 20 minutes. Same here, though I eventually came to the conclusion that I could build a pretty good album/playlist out of it that is 20 minutes shorter, and still longer and better than a fairly high percentage of my collection. I couldn't quite pull that off with SLG. Also, I'd still be tempted, in certain moods, to declare "Marianne" my favorite Tori song of all time, so there's that. :) Ethan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 05:50:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Craig Gidney Subject: Antony and the Johnson Antony is a trangendered singer with a fabulous voice--think a male Nina Simone, with a dash of Jeff Buckley. I'm really digging his now album, "I am a bird now." His music has a Tin Pan Alley feel, not unlike Rufus Wainwright's music (and RW appears on the album, too). I have a review of it up at Heathen Harvest (http://www.heathenharvest.com) Enjoy, Craig Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:34:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: tori and other new stuff On Thu, 5 May 2005, Karen Hester wrote: > like without listening to it much. The thing is, I have had it on to > the end several times, but I can't remember the second half because > I've tuned out. one thing to consider is that, considering your statement in another post that you're in the mood for loud music right now, the new tori album isn't what you're needing to hear at this time, and that perhaps at some other point it'll resonate better. on the other hand, what little of it i've heard sounded pretty insipid to me, compared to her other work, and hasn't inspired me to rush out to get the album. so maybe not. :) -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. www.livejournal.com/~brni ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 23:07:41 -0400 From: Paul Schreiber Subject: Re: Off Topic: How to setup Anonymous Browsing? Wade asked: > Ok, sorry for being off topic, but it appears we have a good crop of > computer gurus here, so I want to tap your brains! > > I want to setup, on my home network, a web server/site that is like > sites > like www.anonymizer.com, www.snoopblocker.com and other sites like > that. The EFF (yay, EFF!) is helping out with a neat piece of software called Tor. Tor Project: Non-technical introduction to Tor: Technical research paper on how Tor works: Paul shad 96c / uw cs 2001 / mac activist / fumbler / eda / headliner / navy-souper fan of / sophie b. / steve poltz / habs / bills / 49ers / "I don't need you to buy me dinner. I just need you to love me." -- Sarah Slean [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:51:55 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: Sarah in B'ham > Just got back from the show. A solid show, though I wish she would have > covered more of her old albums. I can't recall the set list, though I > particularly enjoyed "Possession", "Hold On", "Sweet Surrender", > "Fallen" and her last piece (don't know the name - probably new.) Her > new material has much more energy performed live. It's a shame that > liveliness isn't captured on Afterglow, which seemed too restrained to me. At the start she mentioned that the concert was going to consist of her recent favorite tunes...I guess this means she doesn't have a new CD in the works. But that's to be expected from Sarah, considering her history. (lol) I thought the show was marvelous...especially the stage she had developed for the performance. Simply amazing! The treasure chest curtain, the mounds of hills and grassy knolls, and more, the mirror-image twin video displays, supplementing the two standard large screens on the periphery...wow! I hate that tickets cost $65, but she went a long way towards making it worth the money. And those Capitalists outside the arena, trying to charge as much as $12 for parking! LOL what a joke. We parked on a sidestreet for free. I don't recall the set list either, but I recorded most of it using my cheap little dictaphone, so once I digitize it I'll get a chance to right one up. She didn't sing anything from Fumbling until near the end of the concert...I was slightly disappointed, but hey, it's Sarah, what's to hate? lol It would have been icing if she'd have sung Drawn to the Rhythm as an encore. I was pleased to hear how well the audience sang along...Sarah was impressed. Maybe that will earn us a return visit? Let's hope so...I don't think she's ever been to B'ham before (to contrast, Tori has been here at least 3 times). - --Doug ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:57:44 -0400 From: "Michael Quinn" Subject: Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ethan Straffin" To: "Nadyne Mielke" Cc: "That warm and fuzzy [place]" Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:18 AM Subject: Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos > Heh. Yes. When I say "largely failed," I only mean that there are more > songs that don't work for me than songs that do, and SLG is the only Tori > album that I can say that about, apart from I agree about SLG being uneven. there are a couple of really horrible songs on there ("Happiness is a Warm Gun", "Heart of Gold") and there are a few covers she'ss done live I wish she would've put on there because they're so good ("Wrapped Around Your Finger", "Love Song", "Vincent" to name a few) but I really really love her covers of "Rattlesnakes", "Real Men" and "Bonnie and Clyde '97" and most of the others are at least passable. There are a few songs on that album that I never listen to and maybe The Beekeeper has more *good* songs on it than SLG but I just don't hear any *great* songs on The Beekeeper and personally I'll take an album that's 25% great, 50% good and 25% horrible over an album that's 75% good and 25% bad (and 0% great) It's funny I listen to "Scarlet's Hidden Treasures" (the EP that came with Sunny Florida) and "Angels" and "Garlands" and I think those songs are as good as the best on The Beekeeper. She could have taken the 7 worst songs off The Beekeper and put those on and it would be a much much better album in my opinion. >> I know, I know, lots of people love Pele. As an album, it's my least >> favourite Tori album. I like the individual songs, but I think that the >> album is too long by about 20 minutes. Heh...Pele is right up there with my favorites, I can't think of any songs I wish weren't on there (Maybe "Twinkle" but it's a nice little song). I love the intimate "storytelling" atmosphere on Pele. those are some of my favorite of her lyrics and the music is great too... Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:21:40 -0500 From: Doug Subject: Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos God...I **LOVE** her cover of Heart of Gold..it just rocks! It's so *funky*! I must be the only one...?? --Doug "Instructions are for people who don't know what they are doing" - Bob the Builder ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:57:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: Brian Eno song news! http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/050504/086047.html Press Release Source: Rykodisc Rykodisc Set to Release New Brian Eno Album "Another Day On Earth" Marks Official Re-Launch of Hannibal Records Wednesday May 4, 3:59 pm ET NEW YORK, NY--(MARKET WIRE)--May 4, 2005 -- Top independent label Rykodisc announced today the June 14th release of "Another Day On Earth," the long-awaited new album by Brian Eno. Officially a Rykodisc/Hannibal release, this landmark album will mark the rebirth of the Hannibal imprint in the US. "Another Day On Earth" is Eno's first solo song-based work in decades. This album is a unique combination of words and soundscapes by one of contemporary culture's most iconic figures. Best known in the field of music, but a dynamic lecturer, visual artist, writer, political activist and futurologist, Eno's discography as a musician, producer and artistic collaborator includes some of the most acclaimed recordings in modern music. Artists as seminal yet varied as John Cale, David Byrne, Laurie Anderson, David Bowie, U2 and Peter Gabriel have chosen to collaborate with Eno, and he is one of the most sought after figures working across the spectrum of modern music. Appropriated by Rykodisc in the early '90s, Hannibal Records was founded in 1980. Throughout its existence, the label has been known for its individuality, breadth of style and an astonishing array of wonderful music from many countries and cultures. Throughout its tenure, Hannibal has always sought and found that elusive, alchemical essence shared by diverse music of all kinds: timeless resonance and quality. Hannibal boasts an impressive artist roster including Robert Wyatt, Phil Manzanera, Richard Thompson, !Cubanismo!, Kate & Anna McGarrigle, Virginia Rodrigues and now Brian Eno. Eno's early dedication to the musical avant garde was always steeped in wit and a passionate regard for the classic history of purely popular music from American doo-wop through the volatile lullabies of The Velvet Underground to the eerie soundscapes of Can. Speaking in 1997, Eno defined his relationship to pop in a characteristically succinct and aphoristic aside: "I have never thought that popular music was about making music in the traditional sense of the word;" he said, "it is about creating new, imaginary worlds and inviting people to join them." With this in mind, Eno's role as a founding member of the avant-pop group Roxy Music can still be regarded as one of the most accomplished debuts in the history of modern rock. Following Roxy Music, Eno embarked on a typically eclectic yet interconnected set of projects. His instrumental music, and most significantly the creation of ambient music, continues to have enormous influence over contemporary music-making. Two notable solo albums, "Here Come The Warm Jets" and "Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)," matched Eno's exuberant surrealism as a lyricist to his warmly melodic vocal style, a combination that has re-surfaced and is beautifully refined on "Another Day On Earth." Each track on "Another Day..." has its own unique structure and atmosphere. The overall work is one of subtlety, vision, idiosyncrasy and maturity. About Rykodisc: Founded in 1983, Rykodisc was the world's first CD-only label and the company that 're-invented the re-issue.' Rykodisc is headquartered in New York City, has offices in the UK, Massachusetts and Pennsylvania, and is active in over fifty countries. The Rykodisc vault spans over one thousand albums including the Frank Zappa catalog as well as the Penalty, Hannibal and Tradition labels. For additional information on Rykodisc and its artists, please visit www.rykodisc.com. -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- neile@drizzle.com / neile@sff.net .... http://www.sff.net/people/neile Editor, The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music . http://www.ectoguide.org Workshop Administrator, Clarion West ...... http://www.clarionwest.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:59:05 -0500 From: Doug Subject: I just realized what day it is today. Happy 05-05-05, everyone! - -- Doug "Instructions are for people who don't know what they are doing" - Bob the Builder ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:57:59 -0400 From: "Gabriel Laverdiere" Subject: Re: Mylene Farmer / Avant que l'ombre... Ive been a Mylene Farmer fan since 1995 and I am quite familiar with her entire work. When I first listened to Avant que lombre I was immensely disappointed with what I felt was a regression or at least a lack of progression. The hopefulness in some of the lyrics also made me miss the frightened, reflexive Farmer of older records. Then I listened to it more, and again, until finally I discovered a deep and fulfilling album. The major difference here is evidently that Farmer has found love, and although this euphoria has never been completely absent from other records, it shines here more. But, its brightness is far from the cheesy sing along love songs one could expect. With love comes the reality that, possibly (probably) one day this wealth will one day or gradually slip out of ones hands, of ones heart. This duality is constant on the album although not on every song. Some songs also showcase Farmers light humor (Q.I., Porno Graphique), which adds to the variety found here. That doesnt mean those songs are meaningless: Porno Graphique, for example, is commenting the sad emptiness of pornographic art (with giant quotation marks), which is spread everywhere like venom in our contemporary societies. Similarly, Fuck Them All seem to address the ancestral domination of men over women, pointing out how horribly men have considered the value of human life (through war for instance). Instead she sings to the men, make (learn) love while well (the women) make war, with songs, with words like swords that pierce through your verbose speeches. Seemingly on its own, Dans les rues de Londres is a vibrant tribute to Virginia Woolf. It links to the other songs by its affirmation of lifes multiple faces, of the impossibility to reduce it to imprecise formulas. Redonne-moi reconnects with past subject matter (ever since the b-side LAnnonciation) : some sort of childhood trauma (according to the b-side mentioned and some other songs, it could very well be that she has been raped as a child). In this song, this ghost floating about doesnt plunge the writer into paralysis or simple observation. Instead, she asks, insists that this other part of her, which makes her love (as a personal process) possible, be returned to her. Love is seen as a process, a capacity which requires the self to be armed with certain assets which the writer here is in (has been in) search of. Haunting her is also now the fear of losing this life altering sensation and facing loneliness and death again. Mylene Farmer is now in her forties and, if her obsession with death (her own, her close relations, family) was before evident, here it is mostly concentrated in two songs, both highlights on the record. In her forties, she is now feeling as if shes invariably walking towards an ending (and we all know shes right!) This vulnerability forces her into fear. While shes always been very critical of it in her writing, Farmer here, obviously in desperation, calls upon religion for help, for confession of her fear of the hour, of nights of vigil But of course, the beauty of those songs is striking. Before the shadow, I know / Collapses to my feet / To see the other side / I know that I know that I loved. In Et pourtant, this theme is brought back from the ashes and faces love in a fight which, ultimately, Love wins: Jentrevoyais le chemin / Qui mhne ` lombre / Et pourtant / Lamour toujours (I was foreseeing the path / Which leads to the shadow / And yet / Love still). As far as the music is concerned, its true that things are very similar to Farmers other records. One must not forget though that she is Frances biggest selling artist and is thus quite a commercial artist. Nonetheless, her marginality has always made her work interesting. Here, the music is still engaging catchy pop music. Her voice, instead of being drowned in synths and effects like on Innamoramento, is now freer, more natural (with its beautiful strengths and its humble limitations). Heavy electric guitars are still present (Fuck Them All, Jattends) as are slow, mournful ballads (Redonne-moi, Derrihre les fenjtres) and energetic dance songs (Q. I., Aime and mostly Peut-jtre toi). Anyone expecting big changes in her musical direction should have paid closer attention to her past records and their progression from one another (except Anamorphosie which did add a new sound, its true). So in retrospect, Im glad I gave the album a chance after all. Sometimes, the records you like the best are the ones you dont quite understand or enjoy on the first round. This has certainly been the case for me. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:11:03 -0400 From: DanStark <2005.carnivore99@verizon.net> Subject: Re: I just realized At >>> 03:59 PM<<< 5/5/2005, Doug wrote: >what day it is today. > >Happy 05-05-05, everyone! You were one hour and six minutes too early (or ten hours and 54 minutes too late)! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:22:52 -0600 From: John Higdon Subject: Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos At 12:16 AM 5/5/2005, Lloyd, Bronwyn (NWAHS) wrote: >BTW has anyone seen this gig yet? Is she touring with the two guys who play >with her on "Welcome to Sunny Florida"? Tori's currently touring solo, with only a piano and a couple of Hammond organs. (It was expected that on her next run through starting in late summer, she'd be accompanied by the usual suspects, but reports now are that she'll continue solo throughout this tour.) John Higdon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 16:39:18 -0600 From: John Higdon Subject: Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos At 01:35 PM 5/4/2005, Ethan Straffin wrote: >John Higdon wrote: >>(I don't know where it will rank with me in the long run. Certainly not >>at the top, but also not at the bottom, where the frequently appalling >>"Strange Little Girls" will hopefully never be undercut.) > >Yeah, interesting little mostly-failed experiment there. > >But: she did cover Lloyd Cole, and there's something about one's favorite >female singer-songwriter covering one of one's two favorite male >singer-songwriters about which I will be forever giddy. I don't know much about Lloyd Cole myself. I think I've only heard one of his songs sung by himself before, in a music video on VH1 years back...and I didn't like it, would always change the channel when it was on. However, I must say that "Rattlesnakes" is by far my favorite song off of SLG. >(And the Joe Jackson cover was relatively cool as well, dontcha think?) It's definitely one of the better songs on the album. >Meanwhile, I don't see myself getting over "Ribbons Undone" from the new >album anytime soon. Scary good. I've got mixed feelings about "Ribbons Undone". I mean, I like it...but in an embarrassed sort of way. It's a very nice, sweet song (though it seems short to me, whenever I listen to it I expect the chorus that starts with "she runs like the fire does" to repeat at some point). But it's almost too saccharine for my taste. Listening to it makes me feel like I've been caught reading a fun children's book in a college library. I get the same feeling from "Goodbye Pisces". The bright piano line on that one seems so cutesy...but I find it infectious nonetheless. John Higdon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:10:18 -0400 From: Dan Stark <2005.carnivore99@verizon.net> Subject: Re: I just realized At >>> 03:59 PM<<< 5/5/2005, Doug wrote: >what day it is today. > >Happy 05-05-05, everyone! You were one hour and six minutes too early (or ten hours and 54 minutes too late)! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:11:12 -0600 From: John Higdon Subject: Re: The beekeeper - Tori Amos At 11:38 PM 5/4/2005, Nadyne Mielke wrote: >On 04 May 2005, at 12:06, John Higdon wrote: >>Certainly not at the top, but also not at the bottom, where the >>frequently appalling "Strange Little Girls" will hopefully never be undercut. >Am I really the only one around who doesn't mind SLG? I admit to hyperbolizing when using the word "appalling". I mean, I'm not planning to sell it anytime soon. But it's definitely my least favorite album of hers, and a major disappointment to me considering how much I've loved many of her covers. (Not to mention that the whole "concept" angle--with Tori supposedly rewriting songs from a female perspective--to me turned out to be either only hype, or to have been a failure on Tori's part.) >I can't call it a masterwork, but I listen to it significantly more often >than BfP. Well, I admit that my own tastes have gone into some other directions, so I don't tend to listen to either album very often anymore. >I adore her cover of 'Rattlesnakes' and 'I'm Not in Love'. Okay, okay, so >I wouldn't complain if I never heard her covers of 'Heart of Gold' or >'Happiness is a Warm Gun' again, I really do like "Rattlesnakes", that one's a keeper. The others I'm okay with are "New Age", "'97 Bonnie & Clyde", "Strange Little Girl", and "Real Men". The rest I could definitely do without. The two you mention are very skippable, while the others to me are just plain boring. (Is it just me, or did anyone else think that going solo for "Enjoy the Silence" was so obvious a choice for that song that they were disappointed when Tori chose that route instead of being more creative? And does anyone else find her voice on that one as dead as has been complained of for "The Power of Orange Knickers"?) >but they don't grate on my nerves like, say, 'Professional Widow'. I like the original "Widow", but that ludicrously infantile remix (the one that repeats the line "put it close to my lips") does get on my nerves. >I know, I know, lots of people love Pele. As an album, it's my least >favourite Tori album. I like the individual songs, but I think that the >album is too long by about 20 minutes. It's not my favorite for sure. Actually, I'm not sure where I'd place Pele right now. Might be nearer the bottom. There are some songs on that one I'd ditch; "Way Down" and "Agent Orange" just aren't to my taste. I think that it's probably her most lyrically obtuse album, with songs like "Mr Zebra" that never made much sense to me. But I like it overall. >For that matter, I vastly prefer live versions of all of the >songs. (Actually, that pretty much sums up my opinion of the latest >album. Most of the album versions just kinda run together, whereas I very >much like the live versions.) That depends on how she does 'em though. For instance, "Jamaica Inn" on the latest album to me is not great, but not bad either. But I thought that the live version (she played in Denver) using the Hammond was awful. John Higdon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:11:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: I just realized >Happy 05-05-05, everyone! Just wait till next year. Holy moley, I'll bet there are several cults gearing up for 666. This is a signature. It's a friendly signature. But it doesn't like seeing SPAM next to its owner's name. Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:27:21 -0600 From: John Higdon Subject: Request for Imogen Heap CD Hey all, I was wondering if there might be anybody here willing to sell me their copy of Imogen Heap's "I Megaphone", or to make me a CDROM copy of it, or even to send me MP3s of the songs on it. Or possibly to let me borrow it for awhile. I plan to review the album for a Tori fanzine, since she's slated to be one of the openers on Tori's late summer tour, but I can't seem to find a copy around here. The local Borders lists it as "out of print", and Amazon only seems to have used copies selling for $35-$70. Imogen's website also doesn't have a link to buying it (except for a Japanese import version). The CD appears to be her only full length album so far. There's apparently a new one due out sometime in the summer, but as there's no release date set, it doesn't seem probable that it'll be available in time for me to review. Can anybody help me out here? John Higdon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 22:31:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: I just realized On Thu, 5 May 2005, Xenu's Sister wrote: > >Happy 05-05-05, everyone! > > Just wait till next year. Holy moley, I'll bet there are > several cults gearing up for 666. jokes on them... http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 > > > > > > This is a signature. > > It's a friendly signature. > > But it doesn't like seeing SPAM next to its owner's name. > > > > Discover Yahoo! > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. www.livejournal.com/~brni ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 20:59:02 -0700 From: Greg Bossert Subject: Re: I just realized On May 5, 2005, at 7:31 PM, Bernie Mojzes wrote: > http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 heh, i note that there is a link from the page Bernie mentions to an interview with Aimee Mann -- it's to the right, under "Editor's choice"... - -g - -- "i've never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world" - -- Happy Rhodes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 00:33:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: I just realized interesting. i hadn't even noticed it. it's a good article, too. personally, i prefer judo, tho. On Thu, 5 May 2005, Greg Bossert wrote: > On May 5, 2005, at 7:31 PM, Bernie Mojzes wrote: > > http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 > > heh, i note that there is a link from the page Bernie mentions to an > interview with Aimee Mann -- it's to the right, under "Editor's > choice"... > > -g > -- "i've never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world" > -- Happy Rhodes > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. www.livejournal.com/~brni ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:55:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: I just realized - --- Bernie Mojzes wrote: > On Thu, 5 May 2005, Xenu's Sister wrote: > > > >Happy 05-05-05, everyone! > > > > Just wait till next year. Holy moley, I'll bet there are > > several cults gearing up for 666. > > jokes on them... > > http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/this_britain/story.jsp?story=634679 HAHAHA!! I love it! For posterity, for when the page gets taken down (but ecto's archives will live forever): ========= A newly discovered fragment of the oldest surviving copy of the New Testament indicates that, as far as the Antichrist goes, theologians, scholars, heavy metal groups, and television evangelists have got the wrong number. Instead of 666, it's actually the far less ominous 616. ========= This is a signature. It's a friendly signature. But it doesn't like seeing SPAM next to its owner's name. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 23:36:30 -0600 From: neal copperman Subject: Leslie Helpert? Does anyone know anything about her? A friend forwarded me that same question and I'm streaming a bunch of intriguing samples from her web site. It strongly reminds me of something, but it is too late for me to figure it out. http://www.serpentfly.com neal ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V11 #125 ***************************