From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V11 #120 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, May 1 2005 Volume 11 : Number 120 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] RE: Any web stats geeks around? (access logs) ["foghornj" ] Re: Thank you all [Bernie Mojzes ] Re: Thank you all [Chip Lueck ] Off Topic: How to setup Anonymous Browsing? ["Southpaw" Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Geoff Parks (GTP10@cus.cam.ac.uk) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus Marty Lash Sat May 01 1948 Taurus Barney Parker Fri May 02 1986 happy cat Gray Abbott Tue May 03 1955 Suprised Tamar Boursalian Tue May 03 1966 Taurus Richard A. Holmes May 07 Taurus Steve Ito Fri May 08 1970 DA Bull... Brian Gregory Thu May 09 1963 Eclectic Catherine Sundnes Sat May 09 1970 Very Catzy Heidi Maier Wed May 10 1978 Taurus Patrick Varker Wed May 12 1954 Torius Philip David Morgan Sat May 12 1962 Chinese Tiger in Bull Clothing Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Julia Macklin Mon May 20 1968 ethereus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem Chandra Sriram Thu May 27 1971 Gemini Taina Sahlander Mon May 28 1973 Gemini - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:10:07 -0400 From: "foghornj" Subject: RE: Any web stats geeks around? (access logs) Assuming the access log you are looking at is a straight text file, and its appearing as if it has no carriage return/linefeed between the lines, this may help. I presume you are on a Windows PC. The problem is usually that Unix systems use a different code for return/linefeed than MS PCs. You need to open the log in a smarter editor. Wordpad will do it (not Notepad, Wordpad, it ships with Windows under Accessories). Have Wordpad open and switch to your web page that contains the link to the log file. Right click on the link, and use Copy Link Location (or Copy Shortcut, depending on whether you are browsing with Firefox or IE). Now switch over to Wordpad and do Ctrl-O, then Ctrl-V, then press enter. (You are doing an Open File, then pasting in the copied link to the open file dialog). Wordpad (and many other better editors, better than notepad anyway) will recognize the foreign linefeeds and format it correctly. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 10:05:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: RE: Any web stats geeks around? (access logs) other option is to ftp the files specifying ASCII format. that will convert the unix EOL to the appropriate Windoze EOL format. brni On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, foghornj wrote: > Assuming the access log you are looking at is a straight text file, and its > appearing as if it has no carriage return/linefeed between the lines, this > may help. I presume you are on a Windows PC. The problem is usually that > Unix systems use a different code for return/linefeed than MS PCs. You need > to open the log in a smarter editor. > > Wordpad will do it (not Notepad, Wordpad, it ships with Windows under > Accessories). Have Wordpad open and switch to your web page that contains > the link to the log file. Right click on the link, and use Copy Link > Location (or Copy Shortcut, depending on whether you are browsing with > Firefox or IE). Now switch over to Wordpad and do Ctrl-O, then Ctrl-V, then > press enter. (You are doing an Open File, then pasting in the copied link to > the open file dialog). Wordpad (and many other better editors, better than > notepad anyway) will recognize the foreign linefeeds and format it > correctly. > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. www.livejournal.com/~brni ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:15:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Thank you all Thank you to Chip, foghorn, Bowen, mooman, Julie, brni, Steve, josh, Markku and minemino. I've learned how to make a favicon.ico (I never knew what those things were called) and partially how to read an access log, so I've been happily making Happy icons (I haven't put any up, I'm just having fun) and pouring over logs that, before I posted, were unintelligible to me. I've downloaded and installed Web Log Expert, but I haven't yet figured out how to input the access logs via cut and paste. The tips of using Excel and WordPad didn't work for me. I thought I followed the instructions exactly, but nothing happened. minemeno, my web host is already using awstats, and I love it, but it doesn't do exactly what I need. Chip, thanks for the tip about "200." When a log says the date and time in square brackets, is that for the song just before, or just after it? So an entry like this one: "GET /indy/Happy_Rhodes_-_Many_Worlds_Are_Born_Tonight_-_The_Chariot.mp3 HTTP/1.1" 200 5154816 "-" "-" 217.128.109.18 - - [29/Apr/2005:15:27:26 -0700] would be: the file The Chariot in the directory indy was requested. Besides the 200, which you already told me about, what does the rest of this mean? HTTP/1.1" 200 5154816 "-" "-" I take it the 217.128.109.18 is the IP number of the person getting the song. I just grabbed a random one. It looks like that one is not being touched by Coral, but many are. Indy was down (for me, anyway) last night and today, but I turned it on a little while ago and within the first 30 minutes I'd heard Don't Want To Hear It, How It Should Be, Mother Sea and Flash Me Up (and Hold Me is waiting to be played... I sneak peeks at my UnRated folder). It seems like just about every song is being GET'ed by Coral, but my bandwidth is still going up and up. It occurred to me that ISPs probably don't like that program at all. Isn't it almost like stealing bandwidth if things are being downloaded but the true bandwidth isn't being "charged" toward what the customer paid for? That bothers me, but the thrill of getting Happy heard by many many people is overwhelming my moral censors. How can I not want Happy heard, by any means necessary? At least 407 people have heard the acoustic In Hiding in the last week. That could be more people than had heard the song in all the time since the album was released. (Well, I don't know how many CDs The Keep sold. I could be full of crap. Still, it's a lot, in a very short amount of time.) The logs are awesome. My stats and bandwidth re-set to 0 tomorrow, so I might be able to last a week or slightly so before I have to take down the Happy songs unless Coral really does make a difference. The developers of Indy are going to incorporate a file-sharing program called Dijjer. That could make a big difference too. We'll see. Thanks again ecto! (COLLECIVE HEART! There's just something thrilling about hearing Happy when I didn't program my Winamp to play her. They're not playing it for *me*-the woman who's obsessed with Happy's music. I could be anybody. And this song, while I'm writing to ecto...the song is about us. Oh man. It's a wonderful day.) Vickie This is a signature. It's a friendly signature. But it doesn't like seeing SPAM next to its owner's name. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:50:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: Thank you all for: "GET /indy/Happy_Rhodes_-_Many_Worlds_Are_Born_Tonight_-_The_Chariot.mp3 HTTP/1.1" 200 5154816 "-" "-" 217.128.109.18 - - [29/Apr/2005:15:27:26 -0700] this is the client request line - what the web browser sends to the web server: "GET /indy/Happy_Rhodes_-_Many_ .... Chariot.mp3 HTTP/1.1" (the breakdown is: Method: ("GET") Resource Requested: ("/indy/Happy_Rhodes_-_Many_ .... Chariot.mp3") Protocol: ("HTTP/1.1") ) this is the response code: 200 (for a list of response codes, look at: http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html - the short explanation is that codes that start with 2 and 3 are good, and codes that start with 4 or 5 are bad) number of bytes transfered 5154816 this means that for these two fields, there was no data "-" "-" requester's IP: 217.128.109.18 - - timestamp: [29/Apr/2005:15:27:26 -0700] hope that helps. also, if you want to put a second song on my server, go ahead and let me know so that i can set up the permissions for it correctly. brni On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, Xenu's Sister wrote: > Thank you to Chip, foghorn, > Bowen, mooman, Julie, brni, > Steve, josh, Markku and minemino. > I've learned how to make a favicon.ico > (I never knew what those things were > called) and partially how to read an > access log, so I've been happily making > Happy icons (I haven't put any up, > I'm just having fun) and pouring > over logs that, before I posted, > were unintelligible to me. > > I've downloaded and installed > Web Log Expert, but I haven't > yet figured out how to input > the access logs via cut and paste. > > The tips of using Excel and > WordPad didn't work for me. > I thought I followed the > instructions exactly, but > nothing happened. > > minemeno, my web host is already > using awstats, and I love it, > but it doesn't do exactly what I > need. > > Chip, thanks for the tip about "200." > When a log says the date and time in > square brackets, is that for the > song just before, or just after it? > > So an entry like this one: "GET > /indy/Happy_Rhodes_-_Many_Worlds_Are_Born_Tonight_-_The_Chariot.mp3 > HTTP/1.1" 200 5154816 "-" "-" 217.128.109.18 - - > [29/Apr/2005:15:27:26 -0700] > > would be: the file The Chariot in > the directory indy was requested. > > Besides the 200, which you already > told me about, what does the rest of > this mean? HTTP/1.1" 200 5154816 "-" "-" > I take it the 217.128.109.18 is the > IP number of the person getting the > song. I just grabbed a random one. > It looks like that one is not being > touched by Coral, but many are. > > Indy was down (for me, anyway) > last night and today, but I turned > it on a little while ago and within > the first 30 minutes I'd heard > Don't Want To Hear It, How It Should > Be, Mother Sea and Flash Me Up > (and Hold Me is waiting to be played... > I sneak peeks at my UnRated folder). > > It seems like just about every song > is being GET'ed by Coral, but my > bandwidth is still going up and up. > It occurred to me that ISPs probably > don't like that program at all. Isn't > it almost like stealing bandwidth > if things are being downloaded but > the true bandwidth isn't being > "charged" toward what the customer > paid for? That bothers me, but the > thrill of getting Happy heard by many > many people is overwhelming my moral > censors. How can I not want Happy > heard, by any means necessary? > > At least 407 people have heard the > acoustic In Hiding in the last week. > That could be more people than had heard > the song in all the time since the > album was released. (Well, I don't > know how many CDs The Keep sold. I > could be full of crap. Still, it's a > lot, in a very short amount of time.) > > The logs are awesome. My stats and > bandwidth re-set to 0 tomorrow, so > I might be able to last a week or > slightly so before I have to take > down the Happy songs unless Coral > really does make a difference. The > developers of Indy are going to > incorporate a file-sharing program > called Dijjer. That could make a > big difference too. We'll see. > > Thanks again ecto! > > (COLLECIVE HEART! There's just something > thrilling about hearing Happy when I didn't > program my Winamp to play her. They're not > playing it for *me*-the woman who's > obsessed with Happy's music. I could be > anybody. And this song, while I'm writing > to ecto...the song is about us. Oh man. > It's a wonderful day.) > > Vickie > > > > > > > > > > > This is a signature. > > It's a friendly signature. > > But it doesn't like seeing SPAM next to its owner's name. > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. www.livejournal.com/~brni ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 15:39:36 -0500 From: Chip Lueck Subject: Re: Thank you all Vickie wrote: > The tips of using Excel and > WordPad didn't work for me. Try downloading PFE (Programmer's File Editor). It's a very small program, doesn't need to be installed (just run the .exe), and is great for looking at things like logs, etc. It knows about unix line feeds, etc. Just save your access log file, and open in PFE. http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/ > Chip, thanks for the tip about "200." > When a log says the date and time in > square brackets, is that for the > song just before, or just after it? Log formats are very easily customizable by the web master, but usually the date/time in there is the date the request was served. Where you have the dashes, it looks like the place where the browser and OS of the requester usually goes -- but this could have been changed by the person who runs your server. > this mean? HTTP/1.1" 200 5154816 "-" "-" HTTP/1.1 is the protocol used, 200 means served ok, 5154816 is the #bytes ... see above for the two dashes. > I take it the 217.128.109.18 is the > IP number of the person getting the yup ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:14:46 -0500 From: "Southpaw" Subject: Off Topic: How to setup Anonymous Browsing? Ok, sorry for being off topic, but it appears we have a good crop of computer gurus here, so I want to tap your brains! I want to setup, on my home network, a web server/site that is like sites like www.anonymizer.com, www.snoopblocker.com and other sites like that. I basically want something with simple http access, that can be used to bypass firewalls, and keep thing private. Does anyone know how I can set that up? Thanks, Wade ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:02:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: Off Topic: How to setup Anonymous Browsing? i'm confused. whose firewall are you trying to bypass? if you are at home and surfing and trying to set something up on your home network that will anonymize your browsing, it ain't gonna work (because the anonymizer acts as a proxy, and if the IP address associated w/ the proxy is the same, or in the same block as, the requesting computer, there's not much anonymizing going on). if you are trying to just find a way to get past a work firewall so that you can view sites at work that work doesn't want you to, you can probably set something up to handle that. i haven't tried it, but take a look at http://sourceforge.net/projects/jareware/ to see if this might do what you want. it's open source (i.e. free). On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, Southpaw wrote: > Ok, sorry for being off topic, but it appears we have a good crop of > computer gurus here, so I want to tap your brains! > > I want to setup, on my home network, a web server/site that is like sites > like www.anonymizer.com, www.snoopblocker.com and other sites like that. > > I basically want something with simple http access, that can be used to > bypass firewalls, and keep thing private. Does anyone know how I can set > that up? > > Thanks, > > Wade > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. www.livejournal.com/~brni ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V11 #120 ***************************