From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V11 #41 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, February 11 2005 Volume 11 : Number 041 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Bitter Valentine's songs... [Ethan Straffin ] "Breakfast with the Arts" on A&E [Nadyne Mielke ] Bitter Valentine Songs [Adam K ] RE: Bitter Valentine Songs ["Bill Adler" ] Re: Bitter Valentine's songs... [meredith ] Last call (from me) for Happy sampler CDs [Steve VanDevender ] Re: Bitter Valentine's songs... [Bernie Mojzes ] Re: Bitter Valentine's songs... [Yngve Hauge ] Re: Last call (from me) for Happy sampler CDs ["Xenu's Sister" ] Re: The return of MP3.com [Sander ] Some Ane Brun info for those interested [Yngve Hauge ] RE: Bitter Valentine's songs... ["Michael Quinn" ] Mila Drumke News [Jeff Wasilko ] Mila Drumke news [meredith ] Tori Amos' _The Beekeeper_ [meredith ] Re: Tori Amos' _The Beekeeper_ [John Higdon ] Re: Tori Amos' _The Beekeeper_ [DanStark <2005.carnivore99@verizon.net>] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:09:57 -0800 From: Ethan Straffin Subject: Re: Bitter Valentine's songs... Heh...I checked my "old" directory (featuring random documents from an earlier laptop) and found this mix I made for an anti-Valentine party way back in 1997. Songs you like were my choice; songs you hate must have been my friends' suggestions. It's biased for obvious reasons toward well-known artists, but I've marked with an asterisk those songs that seem either ectophilic or just generally important to the anti-VD canon. :) (We timed Billy Bragg's contribution to play precisely at midnight, just before we blew up the stuffed animals with M80s. IMHO, it's the crown jewel of the set, and absolutely essential.) Have fun, Ethan - -- *The Sisters Of Mercy - Temple Of Love Eurythmics - Thorn In My Side Lloyd Cole - Sweetheart The Cranberries - How Gin Blossoms - Found Out About You Elvis Costello And The Attractions - The Only Flame In Town The Pursuit Of Happiness - Killed By Love *Indigo Girls - Joking Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Don't Come Around Here No More *Joe Jackson - Fools In Love *They Might Be Giants - Twisting *Aimee Mann - I Should've Known *Hole - Violet Fine Young Cannibals - Ever Fallen In Love *E - L.A. River Devo - Jerkin' Back And Forth *R.E.M. - The One I Love *Ani DiFranco - Outta Me, Onto You *Traveling Wilburys - Congratulations Abba - So Long *Robyn Hitchcock And The Egyptians - So You Think You're In Love *Warren Zevon - Finishing Touches (though "They Moved The Moon" is one of my favorite breakup songs ever and might be a better choice outside of a party setting) *Paula Cole - Throwing Stones *Tom Lehrer - The Masochism Tango EMF - Unbelievable Sonic Youth - Kool Thing Guns N' Roses - Used To Love Her Garbage - Vow *The Clash - Train In Vain Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive Alanis Morissette - You Oughta Know *The J. Geils Band - Love Stinks (anthemic to a fault!) *Richard Thompson - Tear Stained Letter ***Billy Bragg - Valentine's Day Is Over Erasure - 2,000 Miles *Liz Phair - Fuck And Run Sugar - Can't Help You Anymore Blondie - Just Go Away Green Day - Pulling Teeth *Shoes - Love Is Like A Bullet The Smiths - Unhappy Birthday *"Weird Al" Yankovic - One More Minute Phil Collins - I Don't Care Anymore Concrete Blonde - The Beast *Pet Shop Boys - What Have I Done To Deserve This? Violent Femmes - Ugly Lush - Ladykillers Matthew Sweet - Thought I Knew You Social Distortion - Bye Bye Baby Nine Inch Nails - Sin Lisa Loeb - Waiting For Wednesday Paul Westerberg - Waiting For Somebody Crash Test Dummies - I Think I'll Disappear Now *Oingo Boingo - Goodbye-Goodbye - -- Allan Anderson wrote: > I'm going to play some anti-love and twisted love songs on this week's > Radio Ecto...I figure I'll use Thea Gilmore's "Razor Valentine," PJ > Harvey's "Rid of Me," Rachael Sage's "Back to Freedom" -- maybe Jane > Siberry's cover of "I Will Survive" > > Anyone got any other suggestions? > > http://www.koxy.org -- the show is on at Thursday 11PM - midnight > Pacific time. > --- > "All great truths begin as blasphemies." -George Bernard Shaw ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 07:46:41 -0800 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: "Breakfast with the Arts" on A&E For those of y'all with A&E on your cable/satellite/whatever, there are some ecto-friendly artists coming up on their Sunday morning "Breakfast with the Arts" show. They list the following upcoming shows: 13 Feb: James Brown, Keb Mo, Keith Urban, and Ozomatli 27 Feb: Duran Duran and Jem 06 Mar: Tori Amos and Paul McCartney in Red Square 13 Mar: Santana and Indigo Girls 27 Mar: Tears for Fears 17 Apr: Macy Gray and John Mellencamp 24 Apr: Sarah McLachlan /nm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:45:45 -0600 From: Vickie Mapes Subject: Last call (from me) for Happy sampler CDs Everyone on my list either has their CD, or it's on the way to them. brni's sent all his out, but I have 6 left. I thought I'd put out one more call before I offer them to non-Ecto Happy fans. You'd pay Happy directly. No money comes through me. E-mail me. I've listened to the CD several times, but I don't want to say too much about the sampler because so few people have them. I will say that I think all of the songs are good. Some of the songs are GREAT. A couple of songs took some getting used to. A couple that I'd heard live and didn't do anything for me, I now love the album versions. 3 of the songs shot to my all All-Time Favorites list. And I'm only just now getting into the lyrics. Happy, what a goddess. V ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:48:38 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: Bitter Valentine's songs... Hi, I forgot one of the bitterest songs: "Truce", by The Dresden Dolls (or if you have access to their EP _A Is For Accident_, "Christopher Lydon" is up there, too). Amanda Palmer knows bitter break-up songs. Which makes me feel for her, but some great music comes out of her pain. :} =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:01:38 +0000 From: Adam K Subject: Bitter Valentine Songs A thread I just never get tired of, even though my bitter days are behind me, and I count my blessings and no longer dread Valentine's Day. Speaking from a male perspective, you can't beat (and y'all must be tired of this) some Peter Hammill, whose entire "Over" album, though not my fave, is all about break-up. Individual songs include the devastating "Again" ("I am me, I was so before you/But afterwards, I am not the same/You are gone, and I am with you/This will never come again"), "My Experience", "All Said & Done" "Too Many of My Yesterdays", "If I Could". Meanwhile, Bob Mould has a fine twist of the knife in songs like "Roll Over & Die" , pretty much anything off of "Black Sheets of Rain" (clue: not a happy album) and songs he did with his band, Sugar, include Helpless, Act We Act, Feeling Better, Explode & Make Up and Walking Away, (doesn't pull his punches, our Bob) as well as a song of exquisite heartbreak he did for the No Alternative collection called Can't Fight It. REM's Country Feedback and Me in Honey is a double whammy of heartbreak; Indigo Girls gave us "You & Me of the 10,000 Wars" as well as "Ghost"; Patty Griffin's "Every Little Bit" and Carina Round's "On Leaving" are as big a "Fuck you" as you can get, not to mention Aimee Mann's Could've Been Anyone, I Could Hurt You Now and Say Anything; Helen Watson's Some Mistake is a weepie deluxe, and my personal fave, Jackson Browne's gut-wrenching Late for the Sky Even the Psychedellic Furs gave us "All of This & Nothing". These songs may make breaking up seem almost like fun, but remember, kids: don't try this at home. adam k. np: Elbow/asleep at the back (thought I'd give it another listen; stilldon't like it) nr: just finishing Neal Stephenson's "Zodiac" which, to my surprise, I have thoroughly enjoyed. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:51:31 -0500 From: "Bill Adler" Subject: RE: Bitter Valentine Songs Boy, we're a sorry lot. Eleanor McEvoy's "Did You Tell Him" is a wonderful song to listen to if you're feeling glum and want to feel even worse. The song goes like this: Is his hair still as long? Are his eyes still as blue? Can his face still conceal Every clue to his mood?... [D]id you tell him that I've died in every way that matters?... Well I'd tell him myself But I don't have the nerve... But I hope for my sake You were not indiscreet If he asked how I was, Hope you lied, through your teeth... "Did You Tell Him" is on McEvoy's Snapshots album. (The other songs on this CD are worth a listen to, as well.) - --Bill Adler n.p. Blaq Lily, Dreamwalk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:22:05 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: Bitter Valentine's songs... One more, and I swear I'll leave this alone ... :) I just found this from the Hartford Courant: http://www.ctnow.com/music/hce-sound0210.artfeb10,0,3106569.column?coll=hce-utility-music Tunes For Those Not Feeling The Love February 10, 2005 Eric R. Danton Monday is Valentine's Day, and you know what that means: the smarmiest day of the year, when people show their devotion to significant others by requesting crap songs on the radio and boosting Hallmark's bottom line. Bah, humbug! (Yeah, wrong holiday, but it fits.) As a public service to those who regard the frilly explosion of pink and red that erupts every Feb. 14 as a societal nuisance, here is a hand-crafted mix of anti-Valentine's songs perfect for the bitter, cynical or anti-commercial elements among us. "Idiot Wind" by Bob Dylan - Not the most famous song from "Blood on the Tracks," Dylan's divorce album, but surely the most acerbic: "Idiot wind blowing every time you move your mouth," goes the chorus. "Burning Photographs" by Ryan Adams - "I used to be sad / Now I'm just bored with you," he sings. Take that! "I Wanna Get Married" by Nellie McKay - She has claimed this song is sincere, but one listen to the lyrics suggests otherwise: "I wanna pack you cute little lunches/For my Brady bunches/Then read Danielle Steele," she sings. "Via Chicago" by Wilco - "I dreamed about killing you again last night/And it felt alright to me," Jeff Tweedy sings to open the song. Happy Valentine's Day. "Dead Flowers" by the Rolling Stones - Bleak imagery of roses on graves and dead flowers at weddings runs through this tune from the Stones' country-rock years. "Change the Locks" by Lucinda Williams - She changes the locks, her phone number, her clothes, her car and the name of the town to get away from a creepy lover. "Man" by the Yeah Yeah Yeahs - a screeching, stuttering tune on which singer Karen O growls, "I got a man who makes me wanna kill." Sounds like a keeper, doesn't he? "Cry Me a River" by Ella Fitzgerald - nearly 400 other artists have covered this spiteful tune, so pick your favorite interpretation (Justin Timberlake's song by the same title doesn't count). "Get Out of My Life, Woman" by Allen Toussaint - The New Orleans piano master doesn't mince words on this funky tune. "It's Hard To Kiss the Lips at Night That Chew Your Ass Out All Day Long" by the Notorious Cherry Bombs - Not only is this song funny, this Rodney Crowell-Vince Gill collaboration is up for a pair of Grammys this weekend. =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:01:50 -0800 From: Steve VanDevender Subject: Last call (from me) for Happy sampler CDs Vickie Mapes writes: > I've listened to the CD several times, but I don't want to say too much > about the sampler because so few people have them. I will say that I think > all of the songs are good. Some of the songs are GREAT. A couple of songs > took some getting used to. A couple that I'd heard live and didn't do > anything for me, I now love the album versions. 3 of the songs shot to my > all All-Time Favorites list. And I'm only just now getting into the lyrics. I picked up a CD through brni after he announced that he had some extras (thanks again, brni!). And it is an excellent CD. My first impression is that it combines the best features of "old Happy" from the Rhodes I-II/Rearmament/Ecto period (songs with more personal, introspective, dark themes) and "new Happy" from Warpaint onward (exquisite musical production). Not that there is really a sharp break between those periods, in that Happy did some marvelous production with limited resources in her early period and has always had personal, introspective, dark songs, but this album sound like it really takes both of those tendencies farther than her previous work. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:13:27 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: Last call (from me) for Happy sampler CDs Hi, SteveV opined: >My first impression >is that it combines the best features of "old Happy" from the Rhodes >I-II/Rearmament/Ecto period (songs with more personal, introspective, >dark themes) and "new Happy" from Warpaint onward (exquisite musical >production). I've only had a chance to listen twice (thanks to brni as well :), but I've found myself reminded more of _Equipoise_ than anything else. This rather surprised me, since Vickie had said it reminded her of _BtC_, and I don't hear that so much. Short initial review: quite good! A few of the songs still need to grow on me more ... but a few others (in particular "One Of Many") demand the "repeat" button, which is a good sign. =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:32:57 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: Bitter Valentine's songs... On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, meredith wrote: > One more, and I swear I'll leave this alone ... :) you lie! but, since everyone's doing it... on the twisted (rather than bitter) love song front: randy newman - "you can leave your hat on" coil - "love's secret domain" sublime - "wrong way" soft cell - "sex dwarf" the birthday party - "zoo music girl" frank zappa - "dirty love" on the bitter side: randy newman - the entire album _Bad Love_ billy bragg - "valentines day is over" boiled in lead - "the house-husband's lament" oh pray how i wish that i never did marry how i wish i was single again with it's weeping and wailing i'm rocking the cradle rocking the baby that's none of my own and of course - "hey joe" on the hopelessly sad side: david sylvian & robert fripp - "damage" nine inch nails - "something i can never have" joy division - "love will tear us apart" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:54:30 +0100 (CET) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: Bitter Valentine's songs... On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, Bernie Mojzes wrote: > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, meredith wrote: > > > One more, and I swear I'll leave this alone ... :) > > you lie! > > but, since everyone's doing it... > So true and now I'm doing it also ... (I just add a couple I promise) Ane Brun - My Lover Will Go (Bernie - the CD will be in the mail tomorrow) Fleetwood Mac - Beautiful Child Stevie Nicks - Has Anyone Written Anything For You - -- Yngve n.p. Ane Brun - A Temporary Fall (damn that CD is good) and of course Happy Rhodes ****************************************** * One alien has come, unalien to one ***** ****************************************** ***** Blessed be!!! ********************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:52:01 -0600 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: Re: Last call (from me) for Happy sampler CDs At 05:13 PM 2/10/2005, meth wrote: >Hi, > >SteveV opined: > >>My first impression >>is that it combines the best features of "old Happy" from the Rhodes >>I-II/Rearmament/Ecto period (songs with more personal, introspective, >>dark themes) and "new Happy" from Warpaint onward (exquisite musical >>production). > >I've only had a chance to listen twice (thanks to brni as well :), but >I've found myself reminded more of _Equipoise_ than anything else. This >rather surprised me, since Vickie had said it reminded her of _BtC_, and I >don't hear that so much. I agree with what Steve has said. It's hard to be articulate about why I compared it to BtC. I can boil down CDs to one-words even if they're not perfectly suitable to all the songs on the album. Warpaint is "stark," Equipoise is "lush," Many Worlds is "electronic." This new album doesn't seem to fit those descriptions, although there's certainly elements of each. BtC has always been (oy, this is a terrible word) "bouncy" so my first impressions of the new one fit that description. Now that I know the songs so much better, it doesn't anymore. At all. It's a cross between Ecto ("creepy") and Equipoise. If this were the actual album, at this point in time, I would say I still don't like it as much as Ecto and Equipoise, but since those have always been my favorite albums, that's not a negative to this one in any way. >Short initial review: quite good! A few of the songs still need to grow >on me more ... but a few others (in particular "One Of Many") demand the >"repeat" button, which is a good sign. Yes! I tend to repeat the last 4 songs. Over and over and over. "One and Many," "Find Me," and "She Won't Go" are among her very best ever. And "Here and Hereafter," if there were any justice in the world, which of course there is not, would be a massive hit all over the world for weeks and weeks and weeks and would get her the recognition she so richly deserves. It's the Best. Love. Song. EVER. Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:08:25 -0800 From: Michael Pearce Subject: The return of MP3.com For all musicians and people who miss the old MP3.com, this message from the original founder. He's restarting the site! I'm sending this in the original HTML as I received it. If it comes in scrambled, sorry. Go check it out at http://www.mp3music.com/. Musicians on here, sign yourselves up! Michael I Want My MP3! This week I'm launching MP3tunes. Where every song is in ultra-high quality MP3 format. It's a MP3 store where you can own the music - not rent it - so you decide which portable player or software program you want to use. And everything you purchase is stored in your permanent music locker! I hope you'll try it out and support a few of the bands by buying some songs. Be sure and post to the forum any good bands or tracks you uncover. I'll share some of my favorites in the coming weeks. For those of you who haven't yet heard about this new online music company, I sent out two different press releases over the last two weeks outlining the details of MP3tunes. Rather than go into all the details about this new enterprise, you can take a look at the two press releases here. This week, I thought I'd share something a little different with the Michael's Minute readers so you could get some insight that others won't get from reading just the press releases alone.[IMAGE] Take a look at the "old" MP3.com As most of you know, I was the founder and original CEO of MP3.com. I sold it a few years back, and since that time it has changed a few times - - so much so that it's not even recognizable today from the site when I left. I miss the "old" MP3.com. I thought I'd share with you the eight things I miss most about MP3.com, AND what I'd like to try and make happen to remedy this void. The eight things I miss most about the "old" MP3.com 1. MP3.com was THE resource for looking up a band At its peak, MP3.com had over 250,000 artists on the site. Each artist had total control over just about everything: graphics, colors, songs to sell, songs to give away, how much to charge, CD art, bios, tour info, and on and on. However, there was also just enough uniformity and consistency between each artist's page, that it made it easy for music fans to find what they were looking for very quickly. MP3.com did such a great job of offering tools to artists, that pretty much every band (from small to big) had a "home" on MP3.com. They could even customize their "express URLs" and many used this as their calling card to fans and industry insiders. MP3.com became such a wonderful resource, that I've even had major record label executives recently tell me how much they miss having that one-stop site to learn about a band. 2. The traffic from music fans Because all the bands were on MP3.com, all the music fans came there as well. We had millions of people visit MP3.com every week. The more bands we attracted, the more fans came, which in turn attracted more bands. The combined flow of content from the bands and the fans, made MP3.com a very interesting place to hang out. Since I left MP3.com, I have not really seen another site recapture that networking effect. There really isn't that ONE definitive place to go to learn about bands and listen to their music anymore - now you have to visit several different, smaller sites.[IMAGE] Take a look at the wide variety of music you could find on MP3.com 3. The huge volume of music There were over 1,000,000 songs that could be sampled, purchased or even downloaded for free at MP3.com. Much of the music wasn't available anywhere else and created a massively eclectic mix of music, from the ridiculous to the sublime. To give you some idea how much music was on MP3.com, if someone listened to the music there for 8 hours a day, every day of the year, it would take them over 32 years to listen to each song just one time! I miss having such a wonderful collection of all sorts of different music right at my fingertips, so much music you could get lost in it. 4. Awesome one-click streaming and download technology At MP3.com, we had brilliant engineers that created an amazing infrastructure of computers and software [all built on Linux servers I might add ;-) ] that provided the listener with an unparalleled listening experience. When you clicked on a play button....WHAM! the music started playing. We also pioneered streaming and downloading technology that I still haven't found replicated as well on most other music sites. 5. Free A lot of the music was free to stream and download on MP3.com. We left it entirely up to the artists to determine how much of their music they wanted to give away, and how much they wanted to sell and at what price. Many artists wisely chose to share a few songs for free, helping fans discover their band and encourage them to buy more of their music. Artists should take no shame in charging a fair price for their talents, but offering a song or two from each CD for free is a wise way to promote your band (can you say "radio"?) 6. No DRM I'm very proud to say that of the 1,000,000-plus songs that were offered while I was at MP3.com, not a single one used digital rights management (DRM). Apple, Microsoft, the major record labels, and others, penalize legitimate customers by selling a pair of handcuffs with each song or CD they sell. Songs in the MP3 format are the most flexible for consumers, as they work with the widest array of software players as well as virtually any digital player or computer. MP3 files allow the freedom of CD burning and downloading to an unlimited number of computers without restrictions or additional fees. At MP3.com, we believed you should be able to BUY music, not be forced to rent it! 7. Charts and Stations Because MP3.com had so much music and so many new, unfamiliar bands, it was important to have ways to find the music you'd like. We never forced one particular style of music or one group of artists on our visitors, we let the charts do the talking. Browsing the charts was a great way to sample and find new music. MP3.com "stations" were basically playlists created by other music fans. They were also a great way to find new music. >From any artist page you could view a list of all the stations that included music from that artist. Chances are if the station included an artist you liked, there would probably be many other artists on that station you'd also like, but may have not been familiar with. I used to spend hours and hours finding great new music using the MP3.com charts and stations, and I miss that! 8. Artist community And finally, I missed the way artists and music fans got to interact together on MP3.com through forums and email. Because so many of the artists were active in the community there, it created a real connection between artists and their fans. This too I have not seen replicated as fully as what we experienced on MP3.com.[IMAGE] Learn more about MP3tunes With our launch of MP3tunes, we don't have most of the above items...yet! But I have a long memory for these wonderful features. I'm anxious to help MP3tunes grow and expand in many of these same, interesting ways as I did at MP3.com. The web site that I think has come the closest to capturing some of the spirit of MP3.com (even surpassing it in some ways with artists) is CD Baby. I'm very proud and excited to be working closely with CD Baby and their artists as we set out with MP3tunes.com. As with Linspire and desktop Linux, I'm excited to, once again, be offering more choice to consumers, not just with their computer, but also with their music. - - Michael ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:57:49 +1100 From: Sander Subject: Re: The return of MP3.com Michael Pearce wrote: > Go check it out at http://www.mp3music.com/. That should probably be http://mp3tunes.com/ - shouldn't it? At least mp3music.com comes back to me with an obvious domain squatting page. Personally I don't really see much benefit in mp3tunes over something like mperia, but at least Michael Robertson is good at getting publicity, and more DRM-less music stores can only be a good thing. Sander ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 02:43:29 +0100 (CET) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Some Ane Brun info for those interested Hi, I just wanted to tell you european ectophiles that Ane Brun might visit a place near you in not too long. Her album is being released in 20 countries - already out in Germany and The Netherlands. She will be touring UK, Netherlands, Germany and Spain among others, so keep your eyes open cause she is really worth it and not only for being from around here :) - -- Yngve ****************************************** * One alien has come, unalien to one ***** ****************************************** ***** Blessed be!!! ********************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:46:45 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: Last call (from me) for Happy sampler CDs On Thu, 10 Feb 2005, meredith wrote: > > Short initial review: quite good! A few of the songs still need to grow on > me more ... but a few others (in particular "One Of Many") demand the > "repeat" button, which is a good sign. yessss! "one and many" is easily my favorite on the disk, and moreover, is an amazing piece to open a concert with... ('specially for someone like me, who'd never heard it before - just completely blew me away) brni > > > =============================================== > Meredith Tarr > New Haven, CT USA > mailto:meth@smoe.org > http://www.smoe.org/meth > =============================================== > hear at the HOMe House Concert Series > http://hom.smoe.org > =============================================== > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:59:49 -0500 From: breinheimer@webtv.net Subject: Re: twisted love songs a few jump to mind. they may or may not be what you are looking for. - -wendy waldman-mad, mad me (also covered by maria muldaur) - -dan hicks and his hot licks-I scare myself (great song, nicely covered by Thomas Dolby and radically reworked by Hicks himself when he reformed the band). This really works for me as my girlfriend is taking me to see Dan this Sunday-yeah! The Police- every breath you take (which is, after all, about a stalker And finally (good luck finding this- I never have): andy dick- love ninja I saw dick perform this several years ago on a late night talk show. It was a very cool rock song (in a beat/hipster fashion) that, once one started paying attention to the lyrics, one realized was a love song from a stalker. hysterical. Hope this last part doesn't offend anyone. Sting didn't seem to get a lot of flack when he did it. I believe it was rather well received, if memory serves. bill np: t bone burnett- the criminal under my own hat nr: America(the book)-Jon Stewart and his pals at the daily show. a great book. I only wish it was long enough to get me through the next four years(sigh) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 22:09:20 -0500 From: Jeffrey Burka Subject: Re: Bitter Valentine's songs... okay, my turn...at least with a few off the top of my head first, I find it pretty shocking that no one has mentioned Sinead's "Troy" yet. Seems like there's roughly a bazillion Aimee Mann songs that would fit this theme, but how about "Fourth of July" as one of my faves...or what about "Long Shot"? I've always loved the "so row row row your boat, gently up the stream; I hope you drown and never come back..." I was always fond of the Judybats song "Our Story" with the wonderful lines, "Good love is easy to find, but it's hard to keep / though I hate it when you wake I still love to watch you sleep." Pretty much everything on Beck's _Sea Change_ would be suitable. Melissa Ferrick has written a bunch of good ones, but it's pretty hard to go wrong with "Breaking Waves" off her first album. But, this *is* a Happy Rhodes mailing list. Let's at least throw in "The Chosen One' ("Will ever I be the chosen one, will ever I be? Whenever I see, a chosen one I feel ugly"). jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:13:21 -0500 From: "Michael Quinn" Subject: RE: Bitter Valentine's songs... Coil's version of Tainted Love and God Damn the Sun by The Swans come to mind also "A Gothic Love Song" by Current 93 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Burka Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:09 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: Re: Bitter Valentine's songs... okay, my turn...at least with a few off the top of my head first, I find it pretty shocking that no one has mentioned Sinead's "Troy" yet. Seems like there's roughly a bazillion Aimee Mann songs that would fit this theme, but how about "Fourth of July" as one of my faves...or what about "Long Shot"? I've always loved the "so row row row your boat, gently up the stream; I hope you drown and never come back..." I was always fond of the Judybats song "Our Story" with the wonderful lines, "Good love is easy to find, but it's hard to keep / though I hate it when you wake I still love to watch you sleep." Pretty much everything on Beck's _Sea Change_ would be suitable. Melissa Ferrick has written a bunch of good ones, but it's pretty hard to go wrong with "Breaking Waves" off her first album. But, this *is* a Happy Rhodes mailing list. Let's at least throw in "The Chosen One' ("Will ever I be the chosen one, will ever I be? Whenever I see, a chosen one I feel ugly"). jeff __________ NOD32 1.996 (20050210) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:16:37 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: Mila Drumke News New CD in February: http://littlepro.com/news.html plus a show in NY on 3/3: Thursday, March 3 @ 8 pm The Living Room 154 Ludlow Street b/w Stanton and Rivington New York City 212.533.7237 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:26:34 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Mila Drumke news Hi, Some long-awaited news from Mila Drumke: Radiate, a new album of original songs, is coming soon...we promise. Preview tracks will be posted here in February, so check back. She will be at The Living Room in NYC on Thursday, March 3 at 8pm. =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:22:59 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Tori Amos' _The Beekeeper_ Hi, (First, JeffW and I were composing our last posts at the exact same time ... mine just took a few minutes longer to blip through. Great minds... :) While driving to Boston and back earlier this week for the Patriots victory parade (yes, I am a dork :), I was finally able to give a listen to Tori's new album. (The MP3s leaked to the internets a couple weeks ago ... and yes, believe me, there will be *multiple* copies of the CD in our house when it's finally released on the 22nd! :) I understand that people might not want spoilers, so I won't get too detailed. I'll just say that it's a very good album. Time will tell where it ranks overall, but if you liked _Scarlet's Walk_ you should like this one quite a lot too. So far my favorite song is "Witness", which is Tori's version of what would happen if Yes were a funk band. Be prepared: it's *long*! A CD can handle 80 minutes' worth of data, and this clocks in at just over 79 minutes. One thing about Tori lately -- she doesn't waste disc space. :) I can't wait to read the interviews, and find out what this thing is about. (Not that I have any illusions that this will really help, but hey. :) Check out for Tori's upcoming TV appearances, of which there are many. =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:30:23 -0700 From: John Higdon Subject: Re: Tori Amos' _The Beekeeper_ At 10:22 PM 2/10/2005, wrote: >I can't wait to read the interviews, and find out what this thing is >about. (Not that I have any illusions that this will really help, but hey. :) Hmm. Well, I was gonna recommend to you an article on a German site that was linked to from the Dent. (http://www2.thepop.de/artistbio.php?artist=37) It's an excellent article, part interview and part essay, delving into the spirituality infused into the album. When I'd gone to the site just last weekend, the article was in English. But now it's in German! (Damn them, writing in German on a German website!) I don't suppose anyone has this article saved as it was in English, or is willing to translate it? I had hoped to read it again to ponder some of its deeper implications.... John Higdon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 01:33:30 -0500 From: DanStark <2005.carnivore99@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Tori Amos' _The Beekeeper_ Meredith gushed: > I was finally able to give a listen to Tori's new album. (The MP3s > leaked to the internets a couple weeks ago ... and yes, believe me, there > will be *multiple* copies of the CD in our house when it's finally > released on the 22nd! :) Anyone with kids in the house will probably love it since it sounds like a children's album. But so far I've found two -- maybe three songs out of the 70 minutes of music that I expect to live on my MP3 player long-term. Of course my least favorite Tori offering to date will likely end up becoming her biggest success, as there is plenty of material worthy of heavy rotation on every town's Lite-FM station this time around. My mileage varies, I guess. Dan ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V11 #41 **************************