From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V11 #32 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, February 2 2005 Volume 11 : Number 032 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Re: Set lists, I have set lists! (and CD info) [Paul Schreiber ] Re: happy@tin angel [Doug ] Re: happy@tin angel [Bernie Mojzes ] message to birdie [Bernie Mojzes ] MY HUMBLE EARLY OPINION [FAMarcus@aol.com] FW: Pete & Maura Kennedy OK after auto accident [neal copperman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 03:00:04 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ********************** Ilka Heber (no Email address) ********************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marvin Camras Sat January 01 1916 Tapehead Jeanne Schreiter Tue January 03 1967 Capricorn John Sandoval Wed January 04 1967 Capricorn Paul Cohen Tue January 05 1954 Capricorn Tony Garrity Mon January 08 1962 Pool of Life Greg Bossert Tue January 09 1962 OfTheTimes Troy J. Shadbolt Thu January 14 1971 Capricorn Chris Sampson Wed January 15 1964 Void where prohibited Dennis G Parslow Fri January 17 1964 ...of the Saint Ross Alford Thu January 17 1957 Positive Nancy Whitney Mon January 19 1959 slippery when wet Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson Tue January 20 1970 Seanympf-Aquarius David Beery Tue January 20 1976 drum Terry Partis Sun January 22 1933 Rocker Steve Hughes Thu January 24 1963 Aquarius Sarah McLachlan Sun January 28 1968 Aquarius Ilka Heber Mon February 01 1965 Mermaid Bob Lovejoy Sun February 02 1947 Aquarius Diane Burke Sat February 02 1963 slow children Timothy S. Devine Tue February 03 1970 Aquarius Stephen Thomas Fri February 04 1966 Aquarius Doug Burks Tue February 14 1956 Blank Jim Sturnfield Thu February 18 1954 Aquarius Juha Kannisto Wed February 18 1970 Aquarius Joel Siegfried February 19 Penguin Crossing Linda Saboe Tue February 20 1951 aimless Teresa Ross Wed February 23 1977 pisces Michael Curry Fri February 24 1967 Pisces Paula Shanks Mon February 25 1952 Pisces Brni Mojzes Fri February 26 1965 the vanishing boy Pamela Pociluk Fri February 28 1964 Pisces Marius Voina Mon March 03 1980 Pisces Peter Clark Thu March 04 1948 Pedestrian Tim Steele Fri March 08 1963 Pisces Matt Bittner Thu March 12 1964 Pisces kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Bob Dreano Thu March 13 1958 Pisces Randall K. Smith Sat March 15 1969 Pisces Jessica Skolnik March 16 Pisces Alan Sodoma Thu March 18 1965 LuckyLurker Richard Konrad Sat March 18 1944 Pisces Daniel Wed March 18 1959 I Am Not I Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Graham Dombkins Fri March 19 1965 Pisces Ian Young Wed March 19 1969 Squiggol Jeff Wasilko Wed March 19 1969 Pisces Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces John Stewart Sat March 21 1970 Aries Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham Valerie Nozick Thu March 25 1971 Aries Tom Proven Sat March 27 1971 Eat at Joe's Jennifer Albert Wed March 30 1966 Aries (w/Cancer rising!:) Warpaint Mon April 01 1991 Brilliant! Michael Pearce Wed April 03 1946 Pegasus Michael E. Bravo Mon April 05 1971 Dandelion Wine Brion McIntosh Sun April 06 1958 Aries Marcel Kshensky Thu April 06 1950 Aries Bill Mazur Mon April 06 1953 Aries Sun/Cancer Rising David Dixon Tue April 07 1970 Aries Heidi Heller Mon April 08 1974 Aries Jill Hughes Sat April 09 1955 Aries Klaus Kluge Sun April 10 1960 Unicorn Steve VanDevender Sun April 10 1966 Racer Art Liestman Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Stephen Golden Sat April 10 1971 Jokey Michael Bowman Wed April 11 1962 Aries Wolfgang Ullwer Fri April 11 1969 Widder Janet Kirsch Thu April 11 1974 Aries Jerry Tue April 13 1971 Aries Stuart Myerburg Mon April 14 1969 Aries T-Bone Wed April 15 1992 happy cat Jeff Hanson Sat April 16 1966 Aries Michael Klouda Mon April 17 1967 Aries Harry Foster Sat April 21 1956 NiceGuy Kjetil Torgrim Homme Thu April 23 1970 Taurus Jeff Burka Thu April 24 1969 GoFlyAKite Christine Waite Tue April 25 1972 Taurus Matt Adams Thu April 26 1962 Taurus Brad Hutchinson Tue April 28 1964 What sign? Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus Marty Lash Sat May 01 1948 Taurus Barney Parker Fri May 02 1986 happy cat Gray Abbott Tue May 03 1955 Suprised Tamar Boursalian Tue May 03 1966 Taurus Richard A. Holmes May 07 Taurus Steve Ito Fri May 08 1970 DA Bull... Brian Gregory Thu May 09 1963 Eclectic Heidi Maier Wed May 10 1978 Taurus Patrick Varker Wed May 12 1954 Torius Philip David Morgan Sat May 12 1962 Chinese Tiger in Bull Clothing Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Julia Macklin Mon May 20 1968 ethereus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem Chandra Sriram Thu May 27 1971 Gemini Taina Sahlander Mon May 28 1973 Gemini Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 02 1966 Kaksoset Alex Gibbs Thu June 08 1967 Betelgeuse Gleb Zverev Tue June 09 1964 Gemini Sonja Juchniewich Mon June 10 1963 Pegasus Joerg Plate Mon June 12 1967 Gemini Chris Montville Tue June 13 1978 Gemini Ectoplasm (original name) Mailing List Thu June 13 1991 Fuzzier blue Paul Huesman Wed June 14 1967 coffee drinker Mark R. Susskind Wed June 15 1966 Gemini Dave Upham Sun June 15 1958 Gemini Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 Pr. SAFH Albert Philipsen Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Neal R. Copperman Thu June 17 1965 Gemini Susan Kay Anderson Tue June 17 1969 Gemini Ecto-The Mailing List Tue June 18 1991 Fuzzy blue Tracy Barber Mon June 18 1956 Gemini Greg Dunn Thu June 18 1953 + Paul Blair Thu June 18 1964 Objectivist Mike Connell Sat June 18 1955 Apollo David Lubkin Fri June 20 1958 OurLady Marisa Wood Fri June 20 1969 Gemini Cheri Villines Sun June 20 1965 Gemini-Leo rising Ray Misra Sat June 20 1970 Gemini Nik Popa Sun June 22 1969 Cancer Teresa VanDyne Thu June 23 1960 Cancer Dave Torok Mon June 24 1968 Cancer Ethan Straffin Thu June 24 1971 Cancer Kevin Dekan Mon June 27 1960 Cancer Samantha Tanner Tue June 30 1970 Wild Goose BunkyTom Tue July 02 1968 Cancer Anders Hallberg Tue July 03 1962 Cancer Kevin Harkins Thu July 05 1973 Cancer Laurel Krahn Mon July 05 1971 Cancer John J Henshon Mon July 05 1954 The Year Of The Horse / Ruled By The Moon Jim Gurley Mon July 06 1959 Cancer Lisa Rouchka Fri July 08 1960 Moonchild with Java Rising Courtney Dallas Fri July 09 1971 Catte Michael Peskura Sat July 09 1949 HallOfFamer Finney T. Tsai Sat July 09 1966 Cancer Larry Greenfield Tue July 11 1950 Virgo Rising; Gemini Moon Marion Kippers Tue July 13 1965 Kreeft Ellen Rawson Thu July 13 1961 Double Cancer Mitch Pravatiner Mon July 14 1952 Cancer R. Rapp Wed July 14 1954 On a Gray Eye Sojourn John Zimmer Sun July 16 1961 Cancer Dan Stark Sun July 16 1961 Cancer Cathy Guetzlaff Mon July 18 1955 Cancer Vlad Sat July 18 1970 Warning: severe tire damage Jani Pinola Thu July 20 1972 Jonquil Alvin Brattli Sun July 27 1969 Lefthanded Christy Eger Smith Thu July 27 1944 Horse Crossing Shirley Ye July 27 Lioness woj Sun July 28 1968 children at play John Relph Sat July 28 1962 Leo Bob Kollmeyer Wed July 28 1971 Leo Steve Lusky Tue July 29 1952 Bike! Kate Bush Wed July 30 1958 God Chuck Smith Wed July 30 1958 Reboot Yves Denneulin Fri July 30 1971 Lion-Heart Joel Kenyon Wed July 31 1963 Leo Eli Brandt August 05 Leo Amanda Williams Tue August 05 1969 phoenix Martin Bridges Sat August 08 1970 BigGuy Rosana L. de Oliveira Wed August 08 1973 Leo Happy Rhodes Mon August 09 1965 HolyGhost Loretta Pontillo Tue August 15 1978 Leo Queen of the Jungle Tori Amos Thu August 22 1963 Leo Sam Warren Tue August 22 1961 Leo Henk Van Wulpen Sat August 22 1970 Leo Kerry White Wed August 22 1951 Exact Leo/Virgo Don Gibson Wed August 26 1959 Virgo Marcel Rijs Mon August 31 1970 A rose growing old Meredith Tarr Wed September 01 1971 Virgo Scott Zimmerman Mon September 04 1972 Virgo Mike Mendelson Fri September 04 1964 Virgo Richard Dean Wed September 06 1967 Virgo Jason Gordon Tue September 07 1976 monkey collector David Blank-Edelman Sat September 09 1967 Neon Holly Tominack Thu September 10 1970 Virgo Sharon Nichols Wed September 11 1963 As Above So Below Heather Russell September 11 Total Virgosity Karron Lynn Lane Tue September 14 1751 Ophelia Virgo Troy Wollenslegel Mon September 18 1972 Virgo Mark Frabotta Sun September 19 1965 Don't even THINK about parking here Joe Zitt Sat September 20 1958 Will Hack for CDs Ani DiFranco Wed September 23 1970 Virgo Lord Tyr Mon September 24 1979 Libran Paul Kim Sat October 01 1977 fetal position JoAnn Whetsell Fri October 01 1976 Pendulum William Gill Wed October 05 1960 A wide-eyed wanderer Dan Riley Sun October 08 1961 Libra Neile Graham Wed October 08 1958 pen Quenby M. Chunco Tue October 08 1968 Crunchy Frog Mike Garland Wed October 08 1952 Creature_of_the_Night Irvin Lin Tue October 09 1973 Libra Michael C. Berch Wed October 10 1956 No parking Chris Gagnon Sat October 10 1970 Libra Wolfgang Drotschmann Thu October 13 1966 Waage Gracescape Fri October 13 1967 unbalanced Brian Bloom Tue October 14 1969 spam Erik N. Johnson Tue October 16 1962 Handle with Care Kim Klouda Tue October 17 1967 Libra Anthony Amato Sat October 20 1973 Libra Suzanne DeCory Tue October 22 1968 Balancing Libra Dave Steiner Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio Tara MacLean Thu October 25 1973 Scorpio Elin Sjoelie Fri October 25 1974 Scorpio Jessica Koeppel Wed October 29 1969 Scorpio Kathy Clark Sat November 01 1969 Bunnies Katie Dougiamas Sat November 02 1974 Scorpio Anthony Horan Fri November 04 1966 Positive Michael Sullivan Mon November 05 1962 Scorpio Anna Pryde Wed November 05 1975 Scorpio Sun; Sagittarius Moon; Pisces Rising Jens Brage Sun November 08 1964 Scorpio Rising Lynn Garrett Sat November 08 1958 Scorpio Sam Murgie Fri November 08 1957 Scorpio Rachel Kramer Bussel Mon November 10 1975 Scorpio Neb Rodgers Tue November 10 1959 Space Available - Inquire Within Ken Latta Sun November 11 1951 Scorpio Craig Gidney November 11 Scorpio Michael Doyle Wed November 12 1969 Scorpio Jenny Bruce Mon November 14 1966 fire-horse scorpio Dave Cook Mon November 15 1971 Scorpio Jeff Pearce November 16 Orpheus Naama Avramzon Mon November 18 1974 Scorpio Jeff Smith Mon November 19 1962 Crash Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio with Saturn and Pluto issues Claudia Spix Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze Anja Baldo Tue November 23 1965 Garbanzo Tommy Persson Wed November 25 1964 Sagittarius Pat Tessitore November 26 Sagittarius Valerie Kraemer November 26 Sagittarius Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Sue Trowbridge Sun November 27 1966 Skytten Ward Kadel Tue November 29 1977 Sagittarius Jesse Hernandez Liwag Wed November 29 1972 Water Rat Mirko Bulaja Sat November 30 1974 Block Juha Sorva Thu December 02 1976 Sagittarius Chip Lueck Thu December 05 1968 Sagittarius Lenore December 05 sagi Michele Wellck December 08 Sagittarius Jeremy J. Corry Fri December 11 1970 Sagittarius Renee Canada Tue December 13 1977 Sagittarius Julie C. Kammerzell Sun December 15 1968 Sagittarius/Scorpio combo Gloria Jackson-Nefertiti Sat December 15 1956 queen_nefertiti@prodigy.net Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius Milla Wed December 17 1975 Sagittarius Chris Schernwetter Tue December 17 1974 Sagittarius Sherry Haddock Sat December 17 1960 Sagittarius Tracy Benbrook Tue December 18 1973 Sagittarius Mark Lowry Mon December 22 1969 Capricarius Kay Cleaves Wed December 22 1976 Prancing Pony Uli Grepel Wed December 25 1968 Steinbock Joseph Wasicek Sat December 25 1976 Brown Eagle Stuart Castergine Mon December 30 1963 You Are Here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 00:17:33 -0800 From: Paul Schreiber Subject: Re: Set lists, I have set lists! (and CD info) Vickie wrote: > Happy doesn't want any of the songs on the CD digitized > at this time, so I can't share lol :) i guess we'll have to convert them to analog, then. paul shad 96c / uw cs 2001 / mac activist / fumbler / eda / headliner / navy-souper fan of / sophie b. / steve poltz / habs / bills / 49ers / "To disable the Internet to save EMI and Disney is the moral equivalent of burning down the library of Alexandria to ensure the livelihood of monastic scribes." --Jon Ippolito, of the Guggenheim, on the CBDTPA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 04:33:31 -0800 (PST) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: cocteaus > A reunited Cocteau Twins will be playing at the Coachella Festival in > late April. yay! still remember a friend who disliked them after they played in london in the eighties..she said liz fraser was very haughty and unpleasant...hmm. i'm sure she had a bad night. Liz i mean. anna maria __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:50:52 -0600 From: Doug Subject: Re: happy@tin angel Crap, I know virtually none of this Happy bio-trivia. Where can I read up on all things related to Happy's life? - --Doug On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 00:07:37 -0500, Paul Blair wrote: > She also mentioned that "The Chosen One" was written before Bob > Muller asked her to marry him. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:05:21 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: Re: happy@tin angel heh... you and me both... i walked in to the show and said "hmm. neither of those guys look like kevin..." had an interesting conversation with someone at the show. "why is it always the drummer? what is about drummers?" as a bass player who has watched this phenomenon break up several bands, it's a question that has perplexed and befuddled me for some time. brni On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Doug wrote: > Crap, I know virtually none of this Happy bio-trivia. Where can I > read up on all things related to Happy's life? > > --Doug > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 00:07:37 -0500, Paul Blair wrote: > > She also mentioned that "The Chosen One" was written before Bob > > Muller asked her to marry him. ;-) > - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:05:52 -0500 (EST) From: Bernie Mojzes Subject: message to birdie Hi, Sorry to post non-relevant stuff to the list, but... Birdie, my mail to you re: a pre-release disk seems to have gotten caught in your spam filter. Let me know if you got it. Thanks - -- brni i don't want the world, i just want your half. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:04:27 EST From: FAMarcus@aol.com Subject: MY HUMBLE EARLY OPINION In a message dated 2/1/05 1:22:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, vickieann@rcn.com writes: The CD is fantastic, but then, I would say that I would agree with vicky even after only three listens. it takes me many listens to determine my final verdict and i will leave it on in the background for a few days. "one and many" is my immediate favorite. charlie is another. also ..............."she won't go away" her voice is in fine form and the background harmonies are excellent. i also like the arrangements. my only disappoint is that i don't have the lyric list to follow along with. i'm sure that will be resolved with the release of the cd. fred ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:57:37 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: FW: Pete & Maura Kennedy OK after auto accident Thought people might want to read this - neal From: Pmkennedy@aol.com To: Pmkennedy@aol.com Subject: Pete & Maura Kennedy OK after auto accident Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:14:54 EST Hi, all, Sorry for this generic email, but we just wanted to let you all know that: 1) We're both all right, and 2) Early yesterday morning, around midnight, Pete and I had a serious auto accident. We were driving home from a house concert in New Jersey late Sunday night/Monday morning. We were driving in the autos-only set of lanes on the northbound New Jersey turnpike, near Perth Amboy, heading for home. There weren't any other cars on the road -- a very quiet night. When all of a sudden, a car came speeding like mad up the same lane we were in (the middle). Pete saw it coming in the rear view (he was driving) and I heard it. It sounded like a train. Pete said, "Hold on, this guy is coming fast." He couldn't really change lanes, just grip the wheel and hope the guy got around us fast. The driver of the other car did one of those video game-like moves where he got right up behind us, jerked his steering wheel to the left to pass, and then jerked the wheel right again immediately after passing us to get back in our lane. Unfortunately, he hit us on the way back into our lane. We were going 65, and we think he was going somewhere between 100 and 110 mph. we went flying into the median strip and started somersaulting. We rolled at least once on top of the guard rail. I think we're alive today because our car has roll bars. If it didn't, the car would have probably been sliced in two and us with it. We were also both wearing our seat belts. The air bags deployed, and we couldn't see anything outside the car as we rolled across the median strip. We were in a kind of a spiraling tunnel, in black and white, and the airbags looked to us, in retrospect, as that fabled light-at-the-end-of-the-tunnel. As we crashed and rolled, we kept expecting to cross into the truck lanes beyond the median and get hit by one of the big rigs. As the car was spinning, we kept thinking, "we're going to die now"...just kept waiting for the lights to go out. When the car came to a stop, we smelled the smoke from the airbags and thought the car was on fire. My door wouldn't open, and I tried to kick it open but we got out Pete's door, and we found that we were still in the median. Our car had come to a rest upright. The other car was also in the median, still upside down, with at least two trapped inside. Everyone in the other car had serious back injuries (there may have been a third, but we were dealing with our own EMTs, and in shock ourselves). In the end they told us that there were no fatalities, but that the other carload were hurting. They had to be cut out of the vehicle. I Don't have any idea why they were driving like they were. They had no reason to pass us in the manner that they did. I'm sure the hospital staff probably took blood tests. Our insurance finds us 0% at fault. I think we'll see a police report within 10 days -- it takes a while to get. We don't even know the other peoples' names. We spent the rest of the day in and out of the hospital, getting checked up, then renting a car and getting all our music gear out of the car and driving it over to Manhattan, then returning the car in Hoboken and taking the train back. We're pretty exhausted now, as you can imagine, but we're OK, and very happy to be alive, the two of us! Today, Tuesday, we're starting to ache from the "ride." It seems to all be muscle pain in our backs and necks, but no more than you'd feel after a good workout. Today is a day of rest for us. We came very close this time. They say the darkest hour is just before dawn. When the car came to a rest and we each realized that the other was alive and OK, we entered the dawn, and you can't imagine how happy we are to be here. We have traveled a half a million miles together by car since we started playing music together 11 years ago. We intend to go at least another half a million more! Love, Pete & Maura The Kennedys pmkennedy@aol.com www.KennedysMusic.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:02:37 -0800 From: Neile Graham Subject: Fwd:Regina Spektor Message Regina Spektor news for those interested -- and if you're not, you should check her out! She's brilliant. http://www.reginaspektor.com - --Neile >Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:40:25 -0800 (PST) >From: reginaspektor >To: neile@drizzle.com >Reply-To: reginaspektor > > >Hey there dudes and dudettes! >i am trying to get better at sending regular updates, and i think in >the future i will sometimes get some help with it (at tour times, >when i am not near a computer someone who is a nice person will >write to you if there is stuff to let ya know...) Today, though, i >am doing it myself, so expect many spelling errors, and lots of good >wishes coming your way.... >#1 the "Us" video is up on my website, very very (VERY!!!) exciting >stuff! Directed by Adria Petty, and made with the invaluable help of >many wonderful and hard working and giving people, as well as SIRE >records, it is my first "real" video... and i am so thankful! >#2 An MSNBC show called "Entertainment Hot List" will air their >first eppisode this coming Sunday, Feb 6th, at times you can find in >TV Guide... i think it might air a few times during the day... >I have no TV, but i may try to go to a friend's house and watch >it... it is a mystery to me... i walked a red carpet... i played >Liberace's grand piano... crystal studded and all... i don't know if >i was any good, though... i tried, and the after party was way fun. >#3 There is now a concoction called the "eteam"... I believe that it >is a secret internet society consisting of people who want to spread >word about my little songs throughout the >land/sea/islands/oceans/lakes/aquariums/busses/cars/bikes/motorways/woods/avenues/ >and an occasional book store... so. I don't think there is any cape >wearing/secret handshake >(though there would be, if it were up to me...) >i bet there is a special name, and password, though. >You can join "the regina eteam" here: http://www.thedst.com/reginaspektor >#4 have fun and be as happy as you can whenever you can, and you >can, more often than not, be happy, more often than you are... >that's a scientific fact... >hugs from the east coast, regina - -- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neile Graham .... neile@sff.net/@drizzle.com ... www.sff.net/people/neile Les Semaines: A Weekly Journal ........ www.sff.net/people/neile/semaines Editor, The Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music ........... www.ectoguide.org Workshop Administrator, Clarion West ................ www.clarionwest.org ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V11 #32 **************************