From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V10 #325 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Friday, November 26 2004 Volume 10 : Number 325 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Temporal Shibboleths [neal copperman ] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Julia Vorontsova BBC Nov 27th ["abaton" ] Re: Temporal Shibboleths [Greg Bossert ] Re: Temporal Shibboleths [neal copperman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 23:55:10 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Temporal Shibboleths At 4:48 PM -0800 11/24/04, Joseph Zitt wrote: >Age 36: Rosanne Cash's "Western Wall" (from the "10 Song Demo" >album) played on KERA in Dallas. I've been in a bit of a Rosanne Cash rediscovery mode. In my tape excavation, I pulled out a tape with the odd pairing of Rosanne's Hits 1979 - 1989 and The The's Infected. (That's the thing I miss the most about tapes. It was really cool having tapes with oddball pairings like that.) A quick track of Rosanne's Hits reminded me how good her early work was. 1979 to 1989 found me completely ignorant of what she was doing. I probably didn't tape this album till much later. It's full of what were apparently country hits, not that I listened to country then. But they are killer singer/songwriter-like tracks, early Americana, and nods to her dad. It made me go to the AllMusicGuide, which all but gushes about her early career. And further, to buy copies of her first 4 CD's so I can hear in entirety the source of the Hits. It seems she was a more successful artist then I realized, and her music probably had more of an impact on other artists then I suspected. I really got into her music later, with albums like Interiors and The Wheel, so I'm looking forward to listening to the old stuff. Has anyone heard last year's Rules of Travel? neal np: Ollabelle - Ollabelle nr: The Word For World Is Forest - Ursula K Le Guin (Speaking of rediscovery. I've recently read and enjoyed both classic and relatively new Le Guin. I distinctly remember reading this novella when I went through all the Hugo Winners in junior high school. Actually, about all I remember is thinking it was interminably long and boring. I'm looking forward to seeing what I missed back then.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 03:00:03 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ****************** Tommy Persson (tompe@lysator.liu.se) ******************* *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tommy Persson Wed November 25 1964 Sagittarius Pat Tessitore November 26 Sagittarius Valerie Kraemer November 26 Sagittarius Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Sue Trowbridge Sun November 27 1966 Skytten Ward Kadel Tue November 29 1977 Sagittarius Jesse Hernandez Liwag Wed November 29 1972 Water Rat Mirko Bulaja Sat November 30 1974 Block Juha Sorva Thu December 02 1976 Sagittarius Chip Lueck Thu December 05 1968 Sagittarius Lenore December 05 sagi Michele Wellck December 08 Sagittarius Jeremy J. 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Kammerzell Sun December 15 1968 Sagittarius/Scorpio combo Gloria Jackson-Nefertiti Sat December 15 1956 queen_nefertiti@prodigy.net Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius Milla Wed December 17 1975 Sagittarius Chris Schernwetter Tue December 17 1974 Sagittarius Sherry Haddock Sat December 17 1960 Sagittarius Tracy Benbrook Tue December 18 1973 Sagittarius Mark Lowry Mon December 22 1969 Capricarius Kay Cleaves Wed December 22 1976 Prancing Pony Uli Grepel Wed December 25 1968 Steinbock Joseph Wasicek Sat December 25 1976 Brown Eagle - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:14:35 -0800 From: "abaton" Subject: Julia Vorontsova BBC Nov 27th Julia Vorontsova the Russian bard/singer/songwriter will perform live on Charlie Gillett's World music program BBC London, next Saturday November 27th at 8pm GMT. We hope everyone can tune in. http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/insideldn/radio/charlie_gillett.shtml Lauri & Mark www.abatonbookcompany.com http://www.abatonbookcompany.us/JuliaVorontsova.html http://psychedelicfolk.homestead.com/RU2.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:41:20 -0800 From: Greg Bossert Subject: Re: Temporal Shibboleths On Nov 24, 2004, at 10:55 PM, neal copperman wrote: > nr: The Word For World Is Forest - Ursula K Le Guin (Speaking of > rediscovery. [...] Actually, about all I remember is thinking it was > interminably long and boring. I'm looking forward to seeing what I > missed back then.) heh, i always admired her daring in naming the (companion to tWfWiF) story "Vaster than Empires and More Slow", apparently against editor Robert Silverberg's concerns that readers might take the title as self-referential. i suspect you'll find a lot there in a second reading. unlike some (many?) of her fellow writers of, erm, meditative, spiritual fantasy, her prose is beautifully crafted and her insights profound. (and man, and sometimes i feel good prose is harder to find than wisdom; wisdom grows, if you will, on the trees of experience for any to pluck, but one requires talent, persistence, and a great deal of effort to bake that fruit into a steaming pie of art. Q.E.D. ;-) speaking of ms. Le Guin, well, i cannot bring myself to advocate the boycott of any work of art, but i myself will *not* be watching the Sci-Fi channel adaptation of the Earthsea books. I refer you all to the comment from ms. Le Guin on this page: http://www.ursulakleguin.com/UKL_info.html - -g n.p. Elastica -- "The Menace" n.r. Richard F. Burton (trans) -- "The Arabian Nights" - -- "i've never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world" - -- Happy Rhodes - -- "except for bunnies..." - -- Anya [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:11:23 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Temporal Shibboleths At 12:41 AM -0800 11/25/04, Greg Bossert wrote: >heh, i always admired her daring in naming the (companion to tWfWiF) >story "Vaster than Empires and More Slow", apparently against editor >Robert Silverberg's concerns that readers might take the title as >self-referential. That seems like a very valid concern to me! >i suspect you'll find a lot there in a second reading. I'm halfay through, and am totally enjoying it. It doesn't seem quite as nuanced as some of her later work. (The main military character is much more of a caricature than anything in her recent writing.) I can see why I wouldn't have been into it in 8th grade though. One of her strengths is defining a whole planet, including the details of the cultures of the inhabitants. It doesn't move along like the other stuff I read at the time (and probably like the stories on either side of it in the Hugo Winners). >speaking of ms. Le Guin, well, i cannot bring myself to advocate the >boycott of any work of art, but i myself will *not* be watching the >Sci-Fi channel adaptation of the Earthsea books. I refer you all to >the comment from ms. Le Guin on this page: > > http://www.ursulakleguin.com/UKL_info.html Thanks for the link. I enjoyed reading her FAQ. Interesting woman. I've never read the Earthsea books, though I have at least one of them. Something to add to the always expanding list. neal np: A Kiss on the Glass - Tori Amos at the Backstage Tavern in Seattle, 1992 nr: The Word for World is Forest - Ursula K Le Guin ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V10 #325 ***************************