From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V10 #321 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, November 22 2004 Volume 10 : Number 321 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Still Not A Pretty Girl [meredith ] Re: temporal shibboleths [breinheimer@webtv.net (bill)] Re: epiphany [Todd Pierce ] Re: epiphany [Ellen Rawson ] Re: ecto-digest V10 #318 [Karen Hester ] Re: shibboleth [Michael Pearce ] Re: Still Not A Pretty Girl [neal copperman ] The Weepies make December special (house concert, 12/4) [Paul Schreiber <] Re: ecto-digest V10 #320 [cyo@landoftheblind.com] gmail subjects [neal copperman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 03:00:07 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ****************** Kevin Bartlett (AURALG@earthlink.net) ****************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio with Saturn and Pluto issues Claudia Spix Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze Anja Baldo Tue November 23 1965 Garbanzo Tommy Persson Wed November 25 1964 Sagittarius Pat Tessitore November 26 Sagittarius Valerie Kraemer November 26 Sagittarius Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Sue Trowbridge Sun November 27 1966 Skytten Ward Kadel Tue November 29 1977 Sagittarius Jesse Hernandez Liwag Wed November 29 1972 Water Rat Mirko Bulaja Sat November 30 1974 Block Juha Sorva Thu December 02 1976 Sagittarius Chip Lueck Thu December 05 1968 Sagittarius Lenore December 05 sagi Michele Wellck December 08 Sagittarius Jeremy J. Corry Fri December 11 1970 Sagittarius Renee Canada Tue December 13 1977 Sagittarius Julie C. Kammerzell Sun December 15 1968 Sagittarius/Scorpio combo Gloria Jackson-Nefertiti Sat December 15 1956 queen_nefertiti@prodigy.net Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius Milla Wed December 17 1975 Sagittarius Chris Schernwetter Tue December 17 1974 Sagittarius Sherry Haddock Sat December 17 1960 Sagittarius Tracy Benbrook Tue December 18 1973 Sagittarius - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 02:56:11 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Still Not A Pretty Girl Hi, woj and I just got back from seeing Ani DiFranco at the Beacon Theater in NYC. The last time we saw Ani in a theater setting was in 1998 ... we've seen her since at Falcon Ridge a couple times, but that's it. We were particularly interested in tonight's show because a.) Ani's "band" this time consisted of bass player extraordinaire Todd Sickafoose, who performed at our house earlier this year accompanying Noe Venable, and b.) Gail Ann Dorsey opened. The last time we saw Gail Ann Dorsey solo was a couple years ago at Fez, also in NYC. We were in the front row not three feet away from her, it was the first solo performance she'd done in about ten years, and the entire time she looked like she was about to throw up. Well, now her second ever solo CD has been released, and this was the last night of her stint opening for Ani (they all just got back from a European tour). I was happy to see that she has gained massive amounts of confidence onstage, and she really looked like she was having fun up there. For those who don't know, Gail Ann Dorsey is best known as bass player for folks like David Bowie, 90s-era Tears for Fears, Jane Siberry, Dar Williams, etc. She is one kickass bass player, and is an even better guitarist and singer. She's not much of a songwriter, but I could listen to that woman sing all day. Her voice is powerful, soulful, and fragile all at the same time. In her short set this evening she did four songs from her new cd, plus a song she co-wrote with Roland Orzabal back in the Tears for Fears days and a wonderful cover of Olivia Newton-John's "Have You Never Been Mellow", which she prefaced by confessing that she has been madly in love with Olivia since the age of 8, and tomorrow as a birthday present to herself (today was her 42nd birthday) she is going to see her perform for the very first time. Everyone gave her a big cheer for that. :) I was kind of nervous about the crowd going in, since Ani's obnoxious fans are the reason we stopped going to see her all those years ago. The crowd turned out to be loud, but not nearly as annoying as they could've been. Fortunately, as Ani has grown up the babydykes (and trust me, I use that term only in the best, most positive way) who worship her have grown a bit, too. :} I didn't know most of the stuff she performed in her set -- a lot of it was brand new, like she always does, but a good portion was from the last three albums, which we either have only listened to once or twice or haven't even bought at all. Basically, after Dilate (which I think is her masterpiece) I've steadily lost interest, though I still keep an eye on what she's doing. Her music is mellowing with age, though it's still got its political bent and though she's definitely leaning more toward the jazzy side of things, she can still rock out too. Her musical interplay with Todd was amazing -- she gave him space to really show his stuff, and he turned out to be even better than I'd seen when he was with Noe. He played just an upright bass for the entire set, and it worked with the music perfectly. The set closer was "Shameless", which is an old fave of mine, and for the encore she trotted out "Gravel" and "32 Flavors", that last with Gail Ann Dorsey on guitar and backing vox. Those old songs had an "I'm only playing these because I know people want to hear them" vibe to them, but they were well-played and were still fun to hear. Now to rip Ani's CDs through Dilate ... I realized during the show that we don't have any of those records in MP3 format yet! I need to have at least Dilate and Not A Pretty Girl on the IPod, it's been ages since I've listened to either of them and they're both brilliant. P.S. Thanks again to a certain ectophile -- you know who you are -- for getting us the tix for tonight's show! :) =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:58:44 -0500 From: breinheimer@webtv.net (bill) Subject: Re: temporal shibboleths I'm on neither side of 50 :) and like most people here have fairly broad tastes so I've probably had a few of these. I think the first albums to open me up were probably Days of Future Past and in Search of the Lost Chord, both by the Moody Blues and both picked up because they looked interesting. My first girlfriend intoduced me to Dave Brubeck and led me to the world of jazz beyond big bands and dixieland. I must admit that I continue to have a real fondness for the cartoon music of my childood I suppose you could say that Carl Stalling introduced me to Raymond Scott. Becoming a college radio dj (wxci back when they were free form) introduced me to many things includig Renaissance. However my first ecto moment was seeing Kate on SNL. Them Heavy People got me hooked. I was introduced to Happy when the gentleman who ran The Nelsonian Navigator (Bill Nelson's snail mail fanclub) sent me a tape. Finally, a hats off to magazines. A non music magazine (New Times?) introduced me to Nick Drake. I think it was the late Lester Bangs who introduced me to Brian Eno and credit Ira Robbins' Trouser Press just for good taste in general. Using a Bonzo Dog Band song for the name of your magazine is a good indicator as regard to sensibilities. Sorry this is so long, it comes with being so old. np- Peter Hammill: Room Temperature Live nr- Kurt Vonnegut: Mother Night ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:42:57 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Pierce Subject: Re: epiphany >> What do the different age groupings of Ectos remember as their own >> {is Epiphany too strong?} music thingy? It was 1984, I can remember driving to high school and listening to the Tulane Univ college radio station. The DJ played Suspended in Gaffa by Kate Bush, and that was it - I was hooked. Bye bye to Tears for Fears, Kim Wilde, Duran Duran, all the other 'New Wave'/Techno stuff I had been listening - hello to what I much later found was called the world of Ecto. Hounds of Love album the next year only reinforced this. Nothing has come close since then, though discovering Karen Matheson/Capercaillie, Happy Rhodes, Tori Amos, Aimee Mann, Maria McKee, and Rachael Sage have all come close. Todd Pierce Asheville NC __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:16:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Re: epiphany I'm in my forties, but my musical tastes were assisted in the early days by my sister, who is ten years my senior. So, I grew up with Joan Baez, Ronnie Gilbert, Pete Seeger, all types of folkies. Then I progressed with her to artists such as Carole King and Janis Ian and the Moody Blues. And Steeleye Span and Fairport Convention -- with Sandy Denny. Big change came in '74 when I finally had my own FM radio and I discovered Renaissance. My sister liked them also, and she used to take her teenage little sis to concerts, so I was able to see some of those artists (I saw Renaissance about five times in the '70s alone). Kate Bush came along for me in the late '70s; I saw her on Saturday Night Live, but I already owned the American version of The Kick Inside album. And it's just kept going from there. Ellen ===== "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." - -- JRR Tolkien ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:56:00 +1300 From: Karen Hester Subject: Re: ecto-digest V10 #318 There's a great NYT article about the early Beatles singles as heard by Americans - Early Beatles, U.S. Style, By ALLAN KOZINN, Published: November 16, 2004. (this link probably won't work: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/16/arts/music/16beat.html?oref=login) Fascinating - I didn't realise, what with being youngish and non-American, that people could grow up with different versions of the songs held to their heart. The band that knocked me over were The Jesus & Mary Chain - feedback and sweetness; you mean things don't have to be polished and clean to be beautiful? A workmate of my father's gave me his NMEs after he had read them, and for years they were my guide to life. I think Kate came before that. There was a painful family trip around the South Island where I made them play her complete works in the rental car tape deck; my poor parents, they couldn't stand the high voice. gmail won't let me alter the subject heading, so sorry if this says Re: digest... Karen > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:45:14 -0600 > From: kerrywhite@webtv.net (kerry white) > Subject: Temporal Shibboleths > > Hi, I was just thinking about a rather small demographic of people who > remember the Beatles first singles as something -different and new- > "Can't Buy Me Love" was = wonderfully new and inventive=, think Paradigm > Shifts, and Zeitgiest, worldviews here. > Our own Ms Rhodes grew up with KaTe Bush and Queen as her -first- > - -this is good music- shaping experience. The Beatles were simply > competent and pleasent 'oldies' to her. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 13:37:36 -0800 From: Michael Pearce Subject: Re: shibboleth At 1:55 AM -0500 11/21/04, Adam K wrote: >Thank you. My name is Adam and I'm an ectophiliac. Crowd: HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! HI, ADAM! Welcome to ecto. Unlike AA, we are here to _encourage_ your addiction. mp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:04:19 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: Re: Still Not A Pretty Girl At 2:56 AM -0500 11/21/04, meredith wrote: >I didn't know most of the stuff she performed in her set -- a lot of >it was brand new, like she always does, but a good portion was from >the last three albums, which we either have only listened to once or >twice or haven't even bought at all. Did you like the new stuff? And did you like the older new stuff more from hearing it live? I'm just curious? For me, ani's recent albums haven't grabbed me immediately, but after seeing her live, they click better. I'm a few albums behind, as I usually pick up new ones at a concert and I missed her last local appearance. neal nr: The Fortress of Solitude - Jonathan Lethem np: Vengeance - Garmarna ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:26:31 -0800 From: Paul Schreiber Subject: The Weepies make December special (house concert, 12/4) Just the facts - --------------------------------------------- Two Weepies. One house concert. RSVP. Suggested donation: $10 Saturday, December 4, 2004. 8 p.m. Sharp. Sunnyvale, California 94085 What's going on - --------------------------------------------- I'm excited to present my first duo house concert: The Weepies. Deb Talan and Steve Tannen and their acoustic guitars will warm my living room on the first Saturday of December. Mark your calendars now -- don't miss the last house concert of the year. Working? Leave early. Homework? Bah! Rock climbing? Some other time. Don't miss The Weepies! About The Weepies - --------------------------------------------- Deb Talan's been a regular on the Boston folk scene for the past five years. She caught the ears of The WB's music supervisors (you heard her on _Dawsons Creek_ and _Felicity_), the writers at _Acoustic Guitar_ magazine (collecting a Homegrown CD Award) and the folks at the Rocky Mountain Folks Festival. Steve Tannen started out in NYC, and folks took notice. _Performing Songwriter_ gushed over both of his CDs. He's won enough songwriting awards to give me writer's cramp typing them all out, and he play guitar pretty darn well too. Check out The Weepies' web site: http://www.theweepies.com/ FAQ - --------------------------------------------- Q: So what is a house concert, anyway? A: It's a wonderful way to experience music. Acoustic sound, intimate setting. No smoke, no drunks, no obnoxious suits. Q: Where is the concert? A: In my living room. Really. You'll get directions to the house when you RSVP. (hint, hint!) Q: When should I arrive? A: Between 7:30 and 7:59 is good. If you're late, enter via the back door. Q: What about transportation? A: There's plenty of street parking, I live within walking distance of the Caltrain station, and the VTA buses drop you off two blocks away. Q: Can I blog about this concert? A: Sure. Please direct people to RSVP to weepies-lrc@paulschreiber.com. Don't post my other email address on the web for spambots. Q: Who gets the money? A: Deb and Steve. Every cent. Q: Will they have CDs and merch for sale? A: Indeedy. Q: Who should I bring? A: Bring a friend! Bring a date! Bring your Mom! Bring all three! Q: What should I bring? A: Drinks and snacks will be provided, but if you'd like to bring something to share, I'd be really grateful. If you have folding chairs, let me know. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:16:46 -0800 (PST) From: cyo@landoftheblind.com Subject: Re: ecto-digest V10 #320 nice to hear someone mention THE THE, who were also an emo turning point for me, especially for a singer, and I still listen to him, he's amazing. The song about war in the middle east is completely revelent right now, 9 years later..."they were missing the message and worshipping the priest"... cyo ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 17:36:28 -0700 From: neal copperman Subject: gmail subjects At 8:56 AM +1300 11/22/04, Karen Hester wrote: >gmail won't let me alter the subject heading, so sorry if this says >Re: digest... Actually, you can change it. Just not without doing somethng else. When you reply to a message, there are some links below the header fields. Add Cc. Add Bcc. Edit Subject. Just click Edit Subject" and it becomes an editable line. neal np: B-sides and Confessions Volume 1 - Jeff Black ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V10 #321 ***************************