From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V10 #223 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, August 12 2004 Volume 10 : Number 223 Today's Subjects: ----------------- allmusic sucks [anna maria "stjärnell" ] Re: Name that performer [Michael Pearce ] Re: allmusic sucks ["phclark" ] [Fwd: [Scuba Diving] Kirsty Mccoll] [hkhill ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 23:55:38 -0700 (PDT) From: anna maria "stjärnell" Subject: allmusic sucks joseh wrote.. The new AMG has caused much tearing of hair at work. We had all become quite used to it (once I stumbled across the fact that our intranet had a hidden link of it at all), until the upgrade. It now requires, on Windows systems, IE 5.5, and we're stuck at 5.0. And it's near impossible to get corporate to change anything technical level, since the giant brains in the fortress of solitude don't seem to get the idea that there are these "customer" people out there and that it would be good to help them. Fortunately, the people who actually work at the store are fanatical about helping customers, so it almost evens out... but I'd love to find a giant remote cluestick with which to thwack the high-level geeks and get things working again. *sigh* yup. the new allmusic sucks. couldn't get logged in despite many trials. anna maria __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:49:41 -0700 From: Michael Pearce Subject: Re: Name that performer birdie wrote: >If anyone runs into SHITR, say "Grrrls! You gotta do this one!" > >Nice toenails! > >Birdie Toenails? I must have missed something. mp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 10:16:08 -0700 From: "phclark" Subject: Re: allmusic sucks I feel so much better. Often computer woes are operator error. Peter C -= High Performance Analogue =- www.redpoint-audio-design.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "anna maria stjdrnell" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 11:55 PM Subject: allmusic sucks > joseh wrote.. > > > The new AMG has caused much tearing of hair at work. > We had all become > quite used to it (once I stumbled across the fact that > our intranet had > a hidden link of it at all), until the upgrade. It now > requires, on > Windows systems, IE 5.5, and we're stuck at 5.0. And > it's near > impossible to get corporate to change anything > technical level, since > the giant brains in the fortress of solitude don't > seem to get the idea > that there are these "customer" people out there and > that it would be > good to help them. Fortunately, the people who > actually work at the > store are fanatical about helping customers, so it > almost evens out... > but I'd love to find a giant remote cluestick with > which to thwack the > high-level geeks and get things working again. *sigh* > > yup. the new allmusic sucks. couldn't get logged in > despite > many trials. > anna maria > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:41:05 -0400 From: hkhill Subject: [Fwd: [Scuba Diving] Kirsty Mccoll] Kirsty Mccoll's death was a great shock to her fans. This is further information on what happened, and action to take. Holly - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Scuba Diving] Kirsty Mccoll Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 15:37:52 -0700 (PDT) From: diversdream Reply-To: scubadiving2@yahoogroups.com To: scubadiving2@yahoogroups.com this is simply heart rendering.....sent to another group i am in hope its ok to re post here. stephen. > Send an e-mail to supportATjusticeforkirsty.org > > or infoATjusticeforkirsty.org > > to become involved. > > For more information, visit www.justiceforkirsty.org > > ============================================================= > > Sunday Times U.K. (and others) > > August 01, 2004 > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-525-1197626,00.html > > A mother's final mission: justice for dear Kirsty > > Jean Newlove explains why she is battling for > justice over the > mysterious death of her daughter Kirsty MacColl > > On December 18, 2000 my daughter Kirsty MacColl took > her sons, Jamie > and Louis, on their first scuba diving expedition, > in a marine nature > reserve off Cozumel in Mexico. Louis told me later > of their > excitement as they surfaced after the first dive: "I > looked round and > smiled at mummy and I said `Wow!' and she smiled > back and > said `Great!'." > > Then it was finished. Kirsty was struck by the > propeller of the > Percalito, a speedboat owned by one of the > wealthiest men in Mexico, > and died almost instantly. Her last action was to > push Louis out of > harm's way. > > My beautiful talented daughter, who was coming into > her own again > personally and musically after a difficult time, was > dead at 41. For > her family the loss is incomparable. The bravery of > her boys, now 17 > and 19, in remaking their lives is heartbreaking. > > When I cry now my tears are those of anger. Although > my daughter's > injuries were horrendous, the speedboat should not > have been in an > area designated for divers and their support boats. > Yet its owner, > Guillermo Gonzalez Nova, head of one of Mexico's > biggest supermarket > chains and who was on board at the time with members > of his family, > refuses to see me or even to answer the letter that > I wrote to him > earlier this year. There has been not one word of > regret from him and > there are questions that I want him to answer. > > There was a trial. Juan Jose Cen Yam, a 28-year-old > deck hand, was > convicted of culpable homicide and sentenced to 34 > months in jail  > although he was allowed to pay a fine, a paltry #61, > instead of > serving his sentence. The court did not hear witness > evidence, > published in the press last week, that it was not > Cen Yam who had > been steering the boat. > > I am determined that there will be justice for > Kirsty. I couldn't do > it on my own. Fred Shortland, who met Kirsty at her > last British > concert, has offered to help. He runs Casa Alianza, > an organisation > that helps street children in Latin America, and he > guided me through > the difficult early encounters with the Foreign > Office  which is now > being wonderfully supportive. > > With my friend John Dalby, I travelled to Mexico in > March to see the > site of the accident and to try to find out the > truth. I met several > government ministers and was received with great > sympathy and > courtesy, although I was astonished that for some it > was the first > they had heard of the case. > > Dr Gabriel Szekely at the tourism ministry thanked > me for > coming. "But for the grace of God, it could have > been one of my > family. What can be done?" he asked. > > That's simple: get people to obey the law. We can't > bring Kirsty > back, but at least our work might prevent more > terrible accidents > like hers. Gonzalez Nova, however, seems to consider > himself above > the law. People think of Mexican men as tough and > macho, but I > believe his behaviour cowardly and underhand. He has > even claimed > that our motive is to get money out of him. > > This is contemptible. What we want is justice and we > have spent > enormous sums of money on our campaign. We had begun > by hiring a > private investigator from New York. He found more > witnesses in > Cozumel whose testimony states that it was not Cen > Yam who had been > driving the boat. The investigator was excellent but > expensive. > > Then we needed someone who knew Mexican law. > Demetrio Guerra, our > brilliant Mexican lawyer, has persuaded the federal > prosecutor to > look at the new case he has built. Any day now he > will tell us > whether it is strong enough for a new trial. We > think it is. Guerra > is committed to our cause but he needs to be paid. > So far the > campaign has cost #200,000. > > At first Kirsty's former husband, music producer > Steve Lillywhite, > paid the bills, and then Kirsty paid. Can you > imagine how galling it > is to me that my daughter's earnings were being used > to retrieve > evidence of her own terrible death? I spent most of > my savings > helping to fund the trip to Mexico. > > If the federal prosecutor opens a new case, I hope > Gonzalez Nova will > face a charge of perjury. If the prosecutor refuses? > Then it's battle > stations. I will never let it rest. > > We will appeal to a higher level if we need to. I am > elderly now but > my friends say that if anything happens to me they > will carry on. > They will never let it go. > > The Justice for Kirsty campaign has Spanish and > American branches and > Padi, the diving body, is behind us. More than 8,000 > people have sent > postcards demanding justice for Kirsty to President > Vicente Fox of > Mexico. > > The warmth of this support is fantastic. However, > the stark truth is > that if there is no money, there is no campaign. > People have > suggested benefit concerts but nothing has happened >  yet. > > As the wife, friend and mother of musicians I know > they are not the > easiest people to organise  but I hope someone will > do something. We > cannot stop now. And I think I know what Kirsty > would have done. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail - ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. 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