From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #351 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Sunday, December 14 2003 Volume 09 : Number 351 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Peter Hammil [Allan Anderson ] Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] Cirque du Soleil [Riphug@aol.com] Re: Cirque du Soleil [meredith ] capitalism, music, and discourse ["R.L Smith" ] whoohoo! [meredith ] Re: pete gabriel [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] RE: capitalism, music, and discourse ["Jack Sutton" ] Stephanie Dosen / Jennifer Rannells [karen hester Subject: Peter Hammil ouch! I hope he's doing okay. On Dec 12, 2003, at 10:55 PM, ecto-digest wrote: > >>> According to the latest Sofa Sound newsletter, Peter is (hopefully) >>> on > his way > to recovery following a heart attack last Sunday. - --- The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing. - -- Archilochus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:00:02 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** *************** Renee Canada (laverick@leland.stanford.edu) *************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Renee Canada Tue December 13 1977 Sagittarius Julie C. Kammerzell Sun December 15 1968 Sagittarius/Scorpio combo Gloria Jackson-Nefertiti Sat December 15 1956 queen_nefertiti@prodigy.net Damon Harper Tue December 16 1975 COOL BANANAS Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius Milla Wed December 17 1975 Sagittarius Chris Schernwetter Tue December 17 1974 Sagittarius Sherry Haddock Sat December 17 1960 Sagittarius Tracy Benbrook Tue December 18 1973 Sagittarius Mark Lowry Mon December 22 1969 Capricarius Kay Cleaves Wed December 22 1976 Prancing Pony Uli Grepel Wed December 25 1968 Steinbock Joseph Wasicek Sat December 25 1976 Brown Eagle Stuart Castergine Mon December 30 1963 You Are Here Marvin Camras Sat January 01 1916 Tapehead Jeanne Schreiter Tue January 03 1967 Capricorn John Sandoval Wed January 04 1967 Capricorn Paul Cohen Tue January 05 1954 Capricorn Tony Garrity Mon January 08 1962 Pool of Life Greg Bossert Tue January 09 1962 OfTheTimes - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 08:41:33 EST From: Riphug@aol.com Subject: Cirque du Soleil I've just been wondering if anyone else here is a fan of French Canadian artists Cirque du Soleil in terms of their music, not just their acrobatics. I'm sure some of you are! I have nearly all of their albums but still enjoy Quidam more than any of the others. Jill :D ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:20:36 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: Cirque du Soleil Hi, Jill wondered: >I've just been wondering if anyone else here is a fan of French Canadian >artists Cirque du Soleil in terms of their music, not just their >acrobatics. I'm >sure some of you are! Me! Me!! :) woj, JeffW and I have seen _Dralion_ and _Quidam_. I absolutely loved _Dralion_ and liked _Quidam_ well enough. After watching that "making of" series on Bravo and then reading the subsequent review I was kind of scared away from _Varekai_ when it came to NYC this past summer, but maybe it'll come to Hartford this year. As far as the music goes, I haven't gotten around to picking up any of the CDs yet, despite wanting to (especially _Dralion_, since the music was such a major part of my enjoyment of the show). I just keep forgetting -- d'oh!! It is wonderful stuff, though. Speaking of which, Kinnie Starr (one of the Scrappy Bitches back in the day, with Veda Hille and Oh Susanna) spent six months this year as the singer in one of Cirque's shows in Las Vegas. Here's what it says on her site: "Kinnie Starr is back on her solo track after having been in the sexy Las Vegas Cirque Du Soleil show "Zumanity" from March thru to September!!!! Singing and dancing and being a part of the show's creation was interesting, fun, and really hard work...... but once the show was up both Kinnie and Cirque realized the show had taken enough creative turns towards a more gospel and traditional 'cirque style' that miss Starr's talents weren't adequately being featured. Both Cirque and Kinnie thought long and hard and came to the mutual decision that it made more sense for Kinnie to be pursuing her international solo career than working the Vegas scene. All things said and done, both parties are glad to have met!!!!" Now *that* I wish I could've seen. :) =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:47:31 +0000 From: "R.L Smith" Subject: capitalism, music, and discourse >Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:33:33 +1100 >From: andrew fries >Subject: Re: good thoughts > >>We can have a progressive society that takes > >>advantage of technology without destroying the environment, exploiting >third > >>world countries and endlessly wasting. > >> > >> >In theory maybe we could but I don't see how it can come about while >capitalism is the dominating force. Capitalism *is* about destroying, >exploiting and wasting. Capitalism has been directly responsible for the march of technology which has allowed expeditious movement of antibiotics and retro-viral drugs from Western nations to all points on the globe. Say what you will, but I think the greatest export from the West is the idea that people can live a life with clean water and less fear of their children dying of easily treatable/preventable illnesses. Captalism has sparked human creativity to the point that you and I can sit in our homes or schools and carry on this conversation. Although U.S. Government (DARPA) funded the effort that became the internet, it wasn't until private interests became involved that it developed into this wildly elastic organ. Capitalism and its byproducts have made available to us fodder for our music fetish. Someone mentioned Peter Gabriel and his evil association with RIAA, but I say the product is the message, and if dealing with a big corporation is necessary to get the message out to a greater number of listeners, ultimate good can come of that. I come here to read what you all have to say because I feel that music is key in understanding ourselves and how to make the world better. In addition to commiserating our distress over the state of the world, music is a conduit to the greatest sweetness and light this temporal existence affords us. Isn't it exciting that we can have this fecund ground for our energetic discussions? And to wrap it all up: My apologies to Jack and anyone I may have offended with my earlier "pawn" comment: an oversight led me to send that email to the list in general, rather than to Fred in specific, as you would surmise from my opening line that explains "I am on the ecto list..." My bad. To clarify, I meant that I feel the nefarious forces of stasis would have us focus on our conflicts of opinion, rather than our agreements, and while we are busy focusing that outrage on single points, many other freedoms slip away. _________________________________________________________________ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:20:02 -0500 From: meredith Subject: whoohoo! Hi, Just had to share -- there's an article in today's Hartford Courant running down some of the programming for the 2004 International Festival of Arts & Ideas here in New Haven, and it says that Mari Boine is going to be on the program! This makes me very happy. :) I've wanted to see her perform for ages, and now I'll get to do it in my hometown next June. Yay! I now return you to your regularly scheduled afternoon. =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 13:32:53 EST From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: Re: pete gabriel In a message dated 12/13/03 12:58:02 AM Central Standard Time, owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org writes: << I have to admit that I have a hard time taking a suggestion like this seriously when tickets to the Peter Gabriel shows were $150 and up. I like Peter Gabriel, don't get me wrong, but I have a difficult time thinking of him as being against commercialism. >> Well, ok, I can see where you are coming from. But he does have an amazing record label with genre-spanning stuff on it >>It would be even cooler if they stopped their association with recording >>companies who are the members of RIAA, if they are so concerned about >>commercialism or art. Yeah, I wasn't trying to say that they are totally non-commercialism artists. I just think that they're the closest you get to it in the major label superstardom area. They've done cool things in the past, maybe they would do it in the future. joe joe and ellen music http://www.jotdot.net/joeandellen http://www.mp3.com/joeandellen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:22:53 -0800 From: "Jack Sutton" Subject: RE: capitalism, music, and discourse > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of R.L > Smith > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 9:48 AM > To: ecto@smoe.org > Subject: capitalism, music, and discourse > > >Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:33:33 +1100 > >From: R.L Smith > >Subject: Re: capitalism, music, and discourse > > > Capitalism has been directly responsible for the march of technology which > has allowed expeditious movement of antibiotics and retro-viral drugs from > Western nations to all points on the globe. Say what you will, but I > think > the greatest export from the West is the idea that people can live a life > with clean water and less fear of their children dying of easily > treatable/preventable illnesses. It would be nice if this were true but I think an article published recently by Joanne Mariner of findlaw.com paints a different story on the availability of medications throughout the world: Here are some numbers to consider: 14 million, 35.9 billion, and one. The first is an estimate of the number of people who will die of AIDS and other treatable diseases over the course of the coming year, most of them in the poor countries of the developing world. The second figure represents the combined 2002 profits, in dollars, of the ten biggest pharmaceutical companies listed in Fortune magazine's annual review of America's largest businesses. The third figure corresponds to the number of countries that, last week, voted against a U.N. resolution on access to drugs in global epidemics such as HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria. The resolution emphasized that the failure to deliver life-saving drugs to millions of people who are living with HIV/AIDS constitutes a global health emergency. 167 countries voted in favor of the resolution. The single vote against it was cast by the United States. Sadly, these numbers are closely related. To protect their exorbitant profits, drug companies are fighting the production and distribution of cheap generic versions of patented drugs. Unable to afford the medicines that could save their lives, millions of poor people around the world die of treatable illnesses every year. And, as the recent U.N. vote exemplifies, the drug companies have a reliable ally. Not only does the U.S. government use its considerable economic power to bully developing countries into restricting access to low-cost generics, it continues to try to change the international rules that allow such generics to be made in the first place. The entire article can be found at: http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1126-02.htm Kind regards, Jack Sutton Harmony Ridge Music www.hrmusic.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 18:04:42 -0800 (PST) From: karen hester Subject: Stephanie Dosen / Jennifer Rannells Albums that Are-not-quite-there-yet, But Good-nonetheless. Distance by Jennifer Rannells samples at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/rannells. www.jenran.com doesn't seem to work. Earnest songs about problematic love, built around piano but with an interesting variety of percussion and strummed and bowed string instruments. Jennifer's voice is strong, more operatic than many, and very melodic and lovely in her high and lower registers. My favourites are 'the last time i made love', 'fire', 'powerplay' and 'pixilated'. Some of the solo piano pieces sound a bit similar, but they sound like her, not someone else. It's a bit serious for me right now - bleeding, ghosts, dampness, thunder and truth. Even the fantastical touches in 'the apartment above mine' (waking up floating in water which has dripped from the room above) aren't treated lightly or with a smile. Pity it isn't a reference to that Japanese horror film 'dark water'! Though 'Distance' was published in 2002 I think many of these songs are several years older. Ghosts, mice and vagabonds by Stephanie Dosen. samples at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dosen and http://www.stephaniedosen.com/ (pretty but the software might not like your computer). there's a page on her cats too http://www.stephaniedosen.com/cats.html. A fresh sounding album with sketchy acoustic guitar and simple band arrangements. Stephanie has a wavering voice, not in the angelic elegant Emmylou way or with Lindi's cabaret quavering, more breathless and youthful and cute. I like the folky pop 'brave' and touching 'song of the maydoves' best. Her lyrics haven't made much of an impact, but there is much of the natural world (birds, the ocean, stars, milkweed, rivers, storms) and some maybe hippy-ish things ('incense in a star shaped box all my joni and moonstone'). I won't listen to this album much but look forward to her next one. Karen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:03:42 -0500 (EST) From: breinheimer@webtv.net Subject: Re: good thoughts Don't get me wrong. I believe that many people in our society are way too materialistic (although thats just my personal belief and I don't think I should be so quick to judge others). However it's really hard to point fingers when I look at my 1500 vinyl lp's and ever increasing cd collection. EWS is hardly symptomatic of buying out of necessity. And yes there are people who treat music strictly as a business and others who love what they create. Ultimately even the latter group have to make money if they are going to be able to continue creating art (at least in a way that the rest of us can, well .... consume). Finally I hope that all of those performers in musicals will dress as Elmer too, otherwise they would seem out of place np: Andy Summers/Robert Fripp- Bewitched ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:07:01 -0500 (EST) From: breinheimer@webtv.net Subject: electroadp I forgot to ask. Is there any way of getting the missives from the electroadp list sent in a digest form rather than as loose mail? ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #351 **************************