From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #339 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, December 2 2003 Volume 09 : Number 339 Today's Subjects: ----------------- No birthdays, just a monthly listing [Mike Matthews ] Recent changes to the Ectophiles' Guide ["The Ectophiles' Guide" ] My show getting out there [Yngve Hauge ] Re: My show getting out there [Greg Bossert ] Re: the pop market [] Re: OK, this is me, yammering on! ["Tom Proven" ] ISOBEL CAMPBELL, CANTALOOP [iflin@speakeasy.net] calling Toronto Ectophiles: Anything going on Dec 26-31? [Jeff Wasilko ] Rachael Sage and Trina Hamlin at the House O'Muzak [meredith Subject: No birthdays, just a monthly listing - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marvin Camras Sat January 01 1916 Tapehead Jeanne Schreiter Tue January 03 1967 Capricorn John Sandoval Wed January 04 1967 Capricorn Paul Cohen Tue January 05 1954 Capricorn Tony Garrity Mon January 08 1962 Pool of Life Greg Bossert Tue January 09 1962 OfTheTimes Troy J. Shadbolt Thu January 14 1971 Capricorn Chris Sampson Wed January 15 1964 Void where prohibited Dennis G Parslow Fri January 17 1964 ...of the Saint Ross Alford Thu January 17 1957 Positive Nancy Whitney Mon January 19 1959 slippery when wet Sarah Noelle Pratt Ferguson Tue January 20 1970 Seanympf-Aquarius David Beery Tue January 20 1976 drum Terry Partis Sun January 22 1933 Rocker *Steve Hughes Thu January 24 1963 Aquarius Sarah McLachlan Sun January 28 1968 Aquarius Ilka Heber Mon February 01 1965 Mermaid Bob Lovejoy Sun February 02 1947 Aquarius Diane Burke Sat February 02 1963 slow children Timothy S. Devine Tue February 03 1970 Aquarius Stephen Thomas Fri February 04 1966 Aquarius Doug Burks Tue February 14 1956 Blank Jim Sturnfield Thu February 18 1954 Aquarius Juha Kannisto Wed February 18 1970 Aquarius Joel Siegfried February 19 Penguin Crossing Linda Saboe Tue February 20 1951 aimless Teresa Ross Wed February 23 1977 pisces Michael Curry Fri February 24 1967 Pisces Paula Shanks Mon February 25 1952 Pisces Brni Mojzes Fri February 26 1965 the vanishing boy Pamela Pociluk Fri February 28 1964 Pisces Peter Clark Thu March 04 1948 Pedestrian Tim Steele Fri March 08 1963 Pisces Matt Bittner Thu March 12 1964 Pisces kIrI Hargie Fri March 13 1970 Pisces Bob Dreano Thu March 13 1958 Pisces Randall K. Smith Sat March 15 1969 Pisces Jessica Skolnik March 16 Pisces Alan Sodoma Thu March 18 1965 LuckyLurker Richard Konrad Sat March 18 1944 Pisces Barry Wong Thu March 19 1970 Merlin Graham Dombkins Fri March 19 1965 Pisces Ian Young Wed March 19 1969 Squiggol Jeff Wasilko Wed March 19 1969 Pisces Geoff Carre Sat March 20 1954 Pisces John Stewart Sat March 21 1970 Aries Bob Brown Thu March 22 1951 Ham Valerie Nozick Thu March 25 1971 Aries Tom Proven Sat March 27 1971 Eat at Joe's Jennifer Albert Wed March 30 1966 Aries (w/Cancer rising!:) Warpaint Mon April 01 1991 Brilliant! Michael Pearce Wed April 03 1946 Pegasus Michael E. Bravo Mon April 05 1971 Dandelion Wine Brion McIntosh Sun April 06 1958 Aries Marcel Kshensky Thu April 06 1950 Aries Bill Mazur Mon April 06 1953 Aries Sun/Cancer Rising David Dixon Tue April 07 1970 Aries Heidi Heller Mon April 08 1974 Aries Jill Hughes Sat April 09 1955 Aries Klaus Kluge Sun April 10 1960 Unicorn Steve VanDevender Sun April 10 1966 Racer Art Liestman Fri April 10 1953 Repeat Stephen Golden Sat April 10 1971 Jokey Michael Bowman Wed April 11 1962 Aries Wolfgang Ullwer Fri April 11 1969 Widder Janet Kirsch Thu April 11 1974 Aries Jerry Tue April 13 1971 Aries Stuart Myerburg Mon April 14 1969 Aries T-Bone Wed April 15 1992 happy cat Jeff Hanson Sat April 16 1966 Aries Michael Klouda Mon April 17 1967 Aries Harry Foster Sat April 21 1956 NiceGuy Kjetil Torgrim Homme Thu April 23 1970 Taurus Jeff Burka Thu April 24 1969 GoFlyAKite Christine Waite Tue April 25 1972 Taurus Matt Adams Thu April 26 1962 Taurus Brad Hutchinson Tue April 28 1964 What sign? Geoff Parks Sun April 30 1961 Taurus Marty Lash Sat May 01 1948 Taurus Barney Parker Fri May 02 1986 happy cat Gray Abbott Tue May 03 1955 Suprised Tamar Boursalian Tue May 03 1966 Taurus Richard A. Holmes May 07 Taurus Steve Ito Fri May 08 1970 DA Bull... Brian Gregory Thu May 09 1963 Eclectic Heidi Maier Wed May 10 1978 Taurus Patrick Varker Wed May 12 1954 Torius Philip David Morgan Sat May 12 1962 Chinese Tiger in Bull Clothing Steve Fagg Tue May 13 1958 Nightwol Karel Zuiderveld Fri May 13 1960 Stier Michael Colford Wed May 16 1962 Taurus Christopher Boek Tue May 19 1970 Taurus Julia Macklin Mon May 20 1968 ethereus Yngve Hauge Fri May 21 1971 Gemini Lisa Laane Tue May 22 1973 Gemini Jewel Kilcher Thu May 23 1974 The Gem Chandra Sriram Thu May 27 1971 Gemini Taina Sahlander Mon May 28 1973 Gemini Urs Stafford Thu May 31 1973 Give Way Perttu Yli-Krekola Thu June 02 1966 Kaksoset Alex Gibbs Thu June 08 1967 Betelgeuse Gleb Zverev Tue June 09 1964 Gemini Sonja Juchniewich Mon June 10 1963 Pegasus Joerg Plate Mon June 12 1967 Gemini Chris Montville Tue June 13 1978 Gemini Ectoplasm (original name) Mailing List Thu June 13 1991 Fuzzier blue Paul Huesman Wed June 14 1967 coffee drinker Mark R. Susskind Wed June 15 1966 Gemini Dave Upham Sun June 15 1958 Gemini Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 Pr. SAFH Albert Philipsen Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Neal R. Copperman Thu June 17 1965 Gemini Susan Kay Anderson Tue June 17 1969 Gemini Ecto-The Mailing List Tue June 18 1991 Fuzzy blue Tracy Barber Mon June 18 1956 Gemini Greg Dunn Thu June 18 1953 + Paul Blair Thu June 18 1964 Objectivist Mike Connell Sat June 18 1955 Apollo David Lubkin Fri June 20 1958 OurLady Marisa Wood Fri June 20 1969 Gemini Cheri Villines Sun June 20 1965 Gemini-Leo rising Ray Misra Sat June 20 1970 Gemini Nik Popa Sun June 22 1969 Cancer Teresa VanDyne Thu June 23 1960 Cancer Dave Torok Mon June 24 1968 Cancer Ethan Straffin Thu June 24 1971 Cancer Kevin Dekan Mon June 27 1960 Cancer Samantha Tanner Tue June 30 1970 Wild Goose BunkyTom Tue July 02 1968 Cancer Anders Hallberg Tue July 03 1962 Cancer Kevin Harkins Thu July 05 1973 Cancer Laurel Krahn Mon July 05 1971 Cancer John J Henshon Mon July 05 1954 The Year Of The Horse / Ruled By The Moon Jim Gurley Mon July 06 1959 Cancer Lisa Rouchka Fri July 08 1960 Moonchild with Java Rising Courtney Dallas Fri July 09 1971 Catte Michael Peskura Sat July 09 1949 HallOfFamer Finney T. Tsai Sat July 09 1966 Cancer Larry Greenfield Tue July 11 1950 Virgo Rising; Gemini Moon Marion Kippers Tue July 13 1965 Kreeft Ellen Rawson Thu July 13 1961 Double Cancer Mitch Pravatiner Mon July 14 1952 Cancer R. Rapp Wed July 14 1954 On a Gray Eye Sojourn John Zimmer Sun July 16 1961 Cancer Dan Stark Sun July 16 1961 Cancer Cathy Guetzlaff Mon July 18 1955 Cancer Vlad Sat July 18 1970 Warning: severe tire damage Jani Pinola Thu July 20 1972 Jonquil Alvin Brattli Sun July 27 1969 Lefthanded Christy Eger Smith Thu July 27 1944 Horse Crossing Shirley Ye July 27 Lioness woj Sun July 28 1968 children at play John Relph Sat July 28 1962 Leo Bob Kollmeyer Wed July 28 1971 Leo Steve Lusky Tue July 29 1952 Bike! Kate Bush Wed July 30 1958 God Chuck Smith Wed July 30 1958 Reboot Yves Denneulin Fri July 30 1971 Lion-Heart Joel Kenyon Wed July 31 1963 Leo Eli Brandt August 05 Leo Amanda Williams Tue August 05 1969 phoenix Martin Bridges Sat August 08 1970 BigGuy Rosana L. de Oliveira Wed August 08 1973 Leo Happy Rhodes Mon August 09 1965 HolyGhost Loretta Pontillo Tue August 15 1978 Leo Queen of the Jungle Martin Dougiamas Wed August 20 1969 Positive Tori Amos Thu August 22 1963 Leo Sam Warren Tue August 22 1961 Leo Henk Van Wulpen Sat August 22 1970 Leo Kerry White Wed August 22 1951 Exact Leo/Virgo Don Gibson Wed August 26 1959 Virgo Marcel Rijs Mon August 31 1970 A rose growing old Meredith Tarr Wed September 01 1971 Virgo Scott Zimmerman Mon September 04 1972 Virgo Mike Mendelson Fri September 04 1964 Virgo Richard Dean Wed September 06 1967 Virgo David Blank-Edelman Sat September 09 1967 Neon Holly Tominack Thu September 10 1970 Virgo Sharon Nichols Wed September 11 1963 As Above So Below Heather Russell September 11 Total Virgosity Karron Lynn Lane Tue September 14 1751 Ophelia Virgo Troy Wollenslegel Mon September 18 1972 Virgo Mark Frabotta Sun September 19 1965 Don't even THINK about parking here Joe Zitt Sat September 20 1958 Will Hack for CDs Ani DiFranco Wed September 23 1970 Virgo Lord Tyr Mon September 24 1979 Libran Paul Kim Sat October 01 1977 fetal position JoAnn Whetsell Fri October 01 1976 Pendulum William Gill Wed October 05 1960 A wide-eyed wanderer Dan Riley Sun October 08 1961 Libra Neile Graham Wed October 08 1958 pen Quenby M. Chunco Tue October 08 1968 Crunchy Frog Mike Garland Wed October 08 1952 Creature_of_the_Night Irvin Lin Tue October 09 1973 Libra Michael C. Berch Wed October 10 1956 No parking Chris Gagnon Sat October 10 1970 Libra Wolfgang Drotschmann Thu October 13 1966 Waage Gracescape Fri October 13 1967 unbalanced Brian Bloom Tue October 14 1969 spam Erik N. Johnson Tue October 16 1962 Handle with Care Kim Klouda Tue October 17 1967 Libra Anthony Amato Sat October 20 1973 Libra Suzanne DeCory Tue October 22 1968 Balancing Libra Dave Steiner Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio Tara MacLean Thu October 25 1973 Scorpio Elin Sjoelie Fri October 25 1974 Scorpio Jessica Koeppel Wed October 29 1969 Scorpio Kathy Clark Sat November 01 1969 Bunnies Katie Dougiamas Sat November 02 1974 Scorpio Anthony Horan Fri November 04 1966 Positive Michael Sullivan Mon November 05 1962 Scorpio Anna Pryde Wed November 05 1975 Scorpio Sun; Sagittarius Moon; Pisces Rising Jens Brage Sun November 08 1964 Scorpio Rising Lynn Garrett Sat November 08 1958 Scorpio Sam Murgie Fri November 08 1957 Scorpio Rachel Kramer Bussel Mon November 10 1975 Scorpio Neb Rodgers Tue November 10 1959 Space Available - Inquire Within Ken Latta Sun November 11 1951 Scorpio Craig Gidney November 11 Scorpio Michael Doyle Wed November 12 1969 Scorpio Marla Tiara Tue November 13 1973 Scorpio Dave Cook Mon November 15 1971 Scorpio Jeff Pearce November 16 Orpheus Naama Avramzon Mon November 18 1974 Scorpio Jeff Smith Mon November 19 1962 Crash Kevin Bartlett Fri November 21 1952 Scorpio Claudia Spix Wed November 23 1960 Schuetze Anja Baldo Tue November 23 1965 Garbanzo Tommy Persson Wed November 25 1964 Sagittarius Pat Tessitore November 26 Sagittarius Valerie Kraemer November 26 Sagittarius Justin Bur Fri November 27 1964 Sagittarius Sue Trowbridge Sun November 27 1966 Skytten Ward Kadel Tue November 29 1977 Sagittarius Jesse Hernandez Liwag Wed November 29 1972 Water Rat Mirko Bulaja Sat November 30 1974 Block Juha Sorva Thu December 02 1976 Sagittarius Chip Lueck Thu December 05 1968 Sagittarius Lenore December 05 sagi Michele Wellck December 08 Sagittarius Jeremy J. Corry Fri December 11 1970 Sagittarius Renee Canada Tue December 13 1977 Sagittarius Julie C. Kammerzell Sun December 15 1968 Sagittarius/Scorpio combo Gloria Jackson-Nefertiti Sat December 15 1956 queen_nefertiti@prodigy.net Damon Harper Tue December 16 1975 COOL BANANAS Laura Clifford Tue December 17 1957 Sagittarius Dirk Kastens Tue December 17 1963 Sagittarius Milla Wed December 17 1975 Sagittarius Chris Schernwetter Tue December 17 1974 Sagittarius Sherry Haddock Sat December 17 1960 Sagittarius Tracy Benbrook Tue December 18 1973 Sagittarius Mark Lowry Mon December 22 1969 Capricarius Kay Cleaves Wed December 22 1976 Prancing Pony Uli Grepel Wed December 25 1968 Steinbock Joseph Wasicek Sat December 25 1976 Brown Eagle Stuart Castergine Mon December 30 1963 You Are Here ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 04:16:36 -0800 From: "The Ectophiles' Guide" Subject: Recent changes to the Ectophiles' Guide Latest changes to the Ectophiles' Guide 30 November 2003 New Guide entries added for: * Lara Halidae * Reba Hasko * Sara Hickman * Missy Higgins * Lucia Hwong * Jehovah's Waitresses * Jewel * Janis Joplin * Hector Zazou - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are receiving this email because you have asked to be notified of updates to the Ectophiles' Guide to Good Music at http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/. If you are no longer interested in receiving these notifications, please unsubscribe yourself using the form at http://www.smoe.org/ectoguide/guide.cgi?newsubscribe&action=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:44:34 +0000 From: "R.L Smith" Subject: the pop market >In a message dated 11/30/03 12:56:37 AM Central Standard Time, >owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org writes: > ><< As for art vs. pop music, let's face it, there is always some music > being made for the joy of making music and some made for strictly > commercial concerns. You made a lot of great points, and of course you're right in so many ways. Of course we need some music that is not as serious as a heart attack, and if I had been thinking clearly I wouldn't have been so bombastic in that post, so I apologize for that. Obviously, some brilliant music appears and the taste for it is infectious. I think "Hey Ya!" by Outkast is a work of art. Come to think of it, hip-hop is generated by writer/performers--perhaps the success of hip-hop itself is a statement of boredom with formulaic pop? I just wish those occasional flashes of brilliance in the pop world were not so isolated. _________________________________________________________________ Say goodbye to busy signals and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:05:45 +0100 (CET) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: My show getting out there Hi you all, I'm kinda very happy now, cause I heard today from the radio station board that other student radio stations are interested in running my show as well. They like my concept they say - so Happy and the other ecto artists will get quite a bit of play in Norway next year. - -- Yngve ****************************************** * One alien has come, unalien to one ***** ****************************************** ***** Blessed be!!! ********************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:26:20 -0800 From: Greg Bossert Subject: Re: My show getting out there congrats, Yngve! On Monday, Dec 1, 2003, at 10:05 US/Pacific, Yngve Hauge wrote: > I'm kinda very happy now, cause I heard today from > the radio station board that other student radio > stations are interested in running my show as well. > They like my concept they say - so Happy and the > other ecto artists will get quite a bit of play in > Norway next year. - -g - -- "i've never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world" - -- Happy Rhodes - -- "except for bunnies..." - -- Anya ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:33:08 -0800 From: Subject: Re: the pop market I don't think any apologies are required for yammering or being bombastic or grumpy, your points were clear and concise, really. I agree with you in that I feel sorry for people who do not care to dig deeper in their consumption of music. Anyone content on a diet of Celine Dion or Clay Aiken is not likely to be my first choice for sparkling dinner conversation. Sad fact is that there are people in the world who just don't get all worked up about good music. Pity them ! - Russ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.L Smith" To: Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:44 AM Subject: the pop market > >In a message dated 11/30/03 12:56:37 AM Central Standard Time, > >owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org writes: > > > ><< As for art vs. pop music, let's face it, there is always some music > > being made for the joy of making music and some made for strictly > > commercial concerns. > > You made a lot of great points, and of course you're right in so many ways. > Of course we need some music that is not as serious as a heart attack, and > if I had been thinking clearly I wouldn't have been so bombastic in that > post, so I apologize for that. Obviously, some brilliant music appears > and the taste for it is infectious. I think "Hey Ya!" by Outkast is a work > of art. Come to think of it, hip-hop is generated by > writer/performers--perhaps the success of hip-hop itself is a statement of > boredom with formulaic pop? I just wish those occasional flashes of > brilliance in the pop world were not so isolated. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Say goodbye to busy signals and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet > connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. > https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:08:35 -0500 From: "Tom Proven" Subject: Re: OK, this is me, yammering on! Cantaloop by US3. Sort of instrumental, I think. 1994 Children by Robert Miles - 1995 Anything in the 2000's? Back to it! HORTER!!! >From: meredith >To: ecto@smoe.org >Subject: Re: OK, this is me, yammering on! >Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:45:20 -0500 > >Hi, > >Jeffy recalled: > >>But those were all in the 80s. Now I'm trying to think >>of some from the 90's...anyone? > >I may be completely misremembering the song, but wasn't there an >instrumental hit song in the '90s called "Cantaloop"? (Or was that the >name of the group that did it?) > > >=============================================== >Meredith Tarr >New Haven, CT USA >mailto:meth@smoe.org >http://www.smoe.org/meth >=============================================== >Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series >http://muzak.smoe.org >=============================================== _________________________________________________________________ Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:27:40 +0000 From: iflin@speakeasy.net Subject: ISOBEL CAMPBELL, CANTALOOP Gary Davis speaketh about ISOBEL CAMPBELL: > I was actually somewhat surprised at what I'd heard. If I didn't know I > was listening to a new recording, I would've sworn from the arrangements I > heard that I was listening to a 60's release! ISOBEL CAMPBELL is formerly a member of BELLE AND SEBASTIAN and the driving force behind the group THE GENTLE WAVES (a B&S offshoot band). this is her first solo album. i have been less and less interested in B&S as a whole and their various off shoot projects like LOOPER (first album had two decent songs on it, their second album was kind of a dud and i didn't bother with their third album), THE GENTLE WAVES (first album was rather bland, i never bothered with the followup) and now a proper solo album for ISOBEL CAMPBELL. but your comments have certainly renewed my interest a bit. i shall have to give the GENTLE WAVES first album another listen to. and perhaps check out some of her latest release. i would definitely recommend checking out THE GENTLE WAVES if you like her solo album though. she was the creative force behind that group (her input on BELLE AND SEBASTIAN songs i think was pretty minimal). METH speaketh about instrumental songs: > >But those were all in the 80s. Now I'm trying to think > >of some from the 90's...anyone? > > I may be completely misremembering the song, but wasn't there an > instrumental hit song in the '90s called "Cantaloop"? (Or was that the > name of the group that did it?) was that the song by US3? released around 1993, i think it was called CANTALOOP (FLIP FANTASIA) but i can't remember if it was an instrumental or not. it was a jazzy hip hop sort of song if memory serves me correctly. sort of in the same vein as PM DAWN, GURU's JAZZAMATAZZ, and DIGABLE PLANETS. irvin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:26:41 -0500 From: Jeff Wasilko Subject: calling Toronto Ectophiles: Anything going on Dec 26-31? Hi: I may be in Toronto between Christmas and New Years. Does anyone know of any good ectophillic shows during that week? Thanks! - -j ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:41:13 -0800 From: "William Mazur" Subject: RE: the pop market I guess I am an anomaly. I like everything from syrupy pop (Celine and Clay) to very intense prog (Magma, King Crimson) and many types of music in between (rock, blues, jazz, classical, Celtic, New Age). Perhaps Celine and Clay's music is disposable or commercial pop. That statement is definitely debatable. But one thing that I can say for both of them is that they are powerful and emotional singers that really know how to deliver a song. I really enjoy and appreciate that aspect in both of them. As we all know, what comprises "good" music is a very subjective call. It is my observation and opinion that those who tend to dig deeper for their music sometimes under appreciate and poke fun at what is on the surface. I love this newsgroup. I have met some really great people here and have made some new friends. I have also been turned on to some of my favorite new artists here (Louisa John-Krol, Kevin Bartlett and, of course, Happy). However I must say that at times I see a bit of an elitist "We are so much cooler than the average music listener" attitude here. Sometimes it seems to me to be a bit unbecoming of the spirit of the list. I am normally not controversial in my posts here. I am trying to figure out why I am making these statements at this point. What I have stated above is just something I have noticed here over the past year or so. Many of Ecto's former darlings now get a good deal of negative press here. Examples being Sarah, Jewel and even Tori. Do they get the negative press because their music is really not that good anymore OR because they have gained mass acceptance and they aren't OUR darlings anymore? Now we have to share them with the world and the reason is because they SOLD OUT to commerciality. That is why they now have this wider audience. I really wonder sometimes. Perhaps the answer is somewhere in between. At least the Fuzzy Blue environment is much more open and tolerant to diverse musical styles compared to most other music discussion forums. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of russvr@blarg.net Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:33 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: Re: the pop market I don't think any apologies are required for yammering or being bombastic or grumpy, your points were clear and concise, really. I agree with you in that I feel sorry for people who do not care to dig deeper in their consumption of music. Anyone content on a diet of Celine Dion or Clay Aiken is not likely to be my first choice for sparkling dinner conversation. Sad fact is that there are people in the world who just don't get all worked up about good music. Pity them ! - Russ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.L Smith" To: Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:44 AM Subject: the pop market > >In a message dated 11/30/03 12:56:37 AM Central Standard Time, > >owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org writes: > > > ><< As for art vs. pop music, let's face it, there is always some music > > being made for the joy of making music and some made for strictly > > commercial concerns. > > You made a lot of great points, and of course you're right in so many ways. > Of course we need some music that is not as serious as a heart attack, and > if I had been thinking clearly I wouldn't have been so bombastic in that > post, so I apologize for that. Obviously, some brilliant music appears > and the taste for it is infectious. I think "Hey Ya!" by Outkast is a work > of art. Come to think of it, hip-hop is generated by > writer/performers--perhaps the success of hip-hop itself is a statement of > boredom with formulaic pop? I just wish those occasional flashes of > brilliance in the pop world were not so isolated. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Say goodbye to busy signals and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet > connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. > https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:35:52 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Rachael Sage and Trina Hamlin at the House O'Muzak Hi, Calling all Connecticut-area ectophiles: a very ectolicious musical event is coming up this weekend! Live At The House O'Muzak presents: RACHAEL SAGE (w/Stephanie Winters, cello) & TRINA HAMLIN Sunday, December 7 at 4:00 pm Suggested donation: $10 Since that fateful day when Trina Hamlin played harmonica with Rachael Sage at ectofest, Trina has appeared on Rachael's last couple albums and has put out one heck of an album of her own. And I don't think I need to say much about how amazing Ms. Sage is in these pages. :) As usual we'll happily ferry people from/to the New Haven Metro-North/Amtrak station, so we hope to see any and all local ectophiles here on Sunday! To reserve your seat(s), just e-mail me directly. =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #339 **************************