From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #336 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Saturday, November 29 2003 Volume 09 : Number 336 Today's Subjects: ----------------- OK, this is me, yammering on! ["R.L Smith" ] That second playlist [Yngve Hauge ] Re: OK, this is me, yammering on! [burka@jeffrey.net] instrumentals ["Robert Lovejoy" ] Isobel Campbell [Gary Davis ] Re: Isobel Campbell [meredith ] Re: Isobel Campbell [Yngve Hauge ] RE: Isobel Campbell ["William Mazur" ] Re: instrumentals [alberto carrasco ] Re: OK, this is me, yammering on! [meredith ] Re: Apartment Hunting [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:06:02 +0000 From: "R.L Smith" Subject: OK, this is me, yammering on! >------------------------------ > >Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:52:56 -0800 >From: >Subject: OT: pop-songwriting in the 21st century > >Happy T-day US citizen ecto-ites and Happy Day to everyone (and Barney the >cat) . I saw this article and thought it could spur discussion of the state >of >pop music ( defining it very loosely as almost anything that sells more >than a >few hundred CDs and was based originally on blues/rhythm and blues/ country >and folk ) This fellow the article is about must be the anti-messiah of >songwriting....Certainly, though he doesn't admit it, a song for this man >is >product. > >http://www.newscientist.com/opinion/opinterview.jsp;jsessionid=GEPCDBBBKLFH?i >d=ns24231 > >- - Russ > Thanks for the link to that article, Russ--it made me feel spiky. The songwriter seemed a nice enough sort, but I thought it was silly of him to say his work wasn't formulaic and then describe in detail his formulae (sad/happy theme, key of C with modulation). It is a shame that the tempo of music put on the market is being dictated by addle-witted club zombies. The word "amuse" came from Latin and meant to stare stupidly, and the popular music industry seems intent on amusing rather than inspiring. Where is a modern-day Dick Dale or Scott Joplin? Golly, can anyone recall an instrumental single release since "Hooked on Classics?" I can't. (not that HOC turned me on, either) Consider the timeless brilliance of Hoagy Carmichael's "Stardust," which wouldn't get a whit of airplay on pop radio if released today --it's too tonally challenging and the audience's attention span too short. Yet the structure of this piece was new in its day ( about 1926, I think?), and people not already bludgeoned by television could sit and listen to the tension of a minor key and the ultimate satisfaction of the resolution to major. How romantic! I trained as an opera singer, and I love nearly all styles of music I've heard, but I am disappointed that folks are so passive about what they listen to when it comes to radio. There is something so empathetic and comforting about music, and considering that most people only listen to pop music, is it any wonder they feel increasingly frantic and unconnected? And speaking of a disconnect, when overly sexual young singers (with brief shelf life and no personal foundation) just parrot songs written by professional songwriters, who is using whom? It is difficult for me to get very excited about a performer who does not write their own songs, and the clinical way in which that songwriter described his craft only confirmed that instinct. He has written some fantastic songs, and I know we've all got to make a living, but something about it distresses me. The packaging and product aspects of it all make it less and less organic, and less and less something I can relate to and use to make my life sweeter. I feel sad for all the people who don't dig deeper. Pardon my mad ramblings. _________________________________________________________________ Gift-shop online from the comfort of home at MSN Shopping! No crowds, free parking. http://shopping.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:32:16 +0100 (CET) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: That second playlist Hi, I did finish my second show this tuesday, and after reworking the playlist looked quite interesting actually: 1.Arson Garden - Hard Bitten - The Belle Stomp 2.Weeping Tile - Cold Snap - Cold Snap 3.Psychowelders - Substance D 4.X - Johnny Hit And Run Pauline - Wild Gift 5.Over the Rhine - Within Without - Eve 6.Perfume Tree - See Me Smile - A Lifetime Away 7.Peacock Palace - Yeah! I Can Ride - Adding Wings 8.Moon Seven Times - John Intro/John - 4=49 9.Brunatex - Frog 10.This Mortal Coil - Another Day - It'll End In Tears 11.The Catherines - Angels On Your Pillow 12.The Catherines - The Tears of This 13.Throwing Muses ? Amazing Grace ? Counting Backwards ? 5:43 - -- Yngve ****************************************** * One alien has come, unalien to one ***** ****************************************** ***** Blessed be!!! ********************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 05:25:53 -0800 (PST) From: burka@jeffrey.net Subject: Re: OK, this is me, yammering on! "R.L Smith" sez: > Golly, can anyone recall an instrumental single release since "Hooked on Classics?" Jan Hammer's theme from _Miami Vice_. Axl's Theme from _Beverly HIlls Cop_. The theme from _Hill Street Blues_. But those were all in the 80s. Now I'm trying to think of some from the 90's...anyone? jeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 11:07:18 -0500 From: "Robert Lovejoy" Subject: instrumentals You know, if you eliminate film and TV soundtracks, the concept of the pop instrumental seems to have vanished I grew up with the Ventures, loved the Shadows and the Tornadoes, and many other instrumental groups, but today the instrumental seems to be mostly new-age music's domain (And let's not forget Jazz).. I'll nominate Mike Oldfield and of course Kevin Bartlett as current masters of the genre (in that their music is not strictly new age). There's also The Rachels. And Pink Floyd had some nice instrumental tracks along the way. Looking forward to others recollections! Bob Lovejoy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:22:01 -0500 From: Gary Davis Subject: Isobel Campbell Hi, folks: Is anyone here familiar with Isobel Campbell? Ryko is one of the distributors I deal with and they carry a lot more than my customers would be interested in, so I don't list everything they carry. Initially Isobel Campbell's new release, Amorino, was one of those I didn't pick up on. However, her CD was included in a batch of promos they sent me so I thought I'd give it a spin to check it out. I was actually somewhat surprised at what I'd heard. If I didn't know I was listening to a new recording, I would've sworn from the arrangements I heard that I was listening to a 60's release! Not bad actually. Her voice has a kind of breathy quality to it that reminds me a little of Twin Peaks. I'm trying to remember the name of that female vocalist that appeared a couple times on that show - Julie something. Anyone? Anyway, here's a soundbite if anyone's interested in checking it out: Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 15:02:06 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: Isobel Campbell Hi, Gary wondered: >I'm >trying to remember the name of that female vocalist that appeared a couple >times on that show - Julie something. Anyone? Julee Cruise. =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 21:12:14 +0100 (CET) From: Yngve Hauge Subject: Re: Isobel Campbell On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Gary Davis wrote: > Hi, folks: > > I was actually somewhat surprised at what I'd heard. If I didn't know I was > listening to a new recording, I would've sworn from the arrangements I heard > that I was listening to a 60's release! Not bad actually. Her voice has a > kind of breathy quality to it that reminds me a little of Twin Peaks. I'm > trying to remember the name of that female vocalist that appeared a couple > times on that show - Julie something. Anyone? You almost did get the first name correct - Julee Cruise is her name - -- Yngve ****************************************** * One alien has come, unalien to one ***** ****************************************** ***** Blessed be!!! ********************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:03:27 -0800 From: "William Mazur" Subject: RE: Isobel Campbell I believe that it was Julie Cruise - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Gary Davis Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 11:22 AM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: Isobel Campbell Hi, folks: Is anyone here familiar with Isobel Campbell? Ryko is one of the distributors I deal with and they carry a lot more than my customers would be interested in, so I don't list everything they carry. Initially Isobel Campbell's new release, Amorino, was one of those I didn't pick up on. However, her CD was included in a batch of promos they sent me so I thought I'd give it a spin to check it out. I was actually somewhat surprised at what I'd heard. If I didn't know I was listening to a new recording, I would've sworn from the arrangements I heard that I was listening to a 60's release! Not bad actually. Her voice has a kind of breathy quality to it that reminds me a little of Twin Peaks. I'm trying to remember the name of that female vocalist that appeared a couple times on that show - Julie something. Anyone? Anyway, here's a soundbite if anyone's interested in checking it out: Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:06:59 -0800 (PST) From: alberto carrasco Subject: Re: instrumentals One of my favorite instrumental albums of the '90s was released by the noted purveyor of Ectophilic music: Ferron. Knowing Ferron for her distinctive vocals, I was surprised she released an instrumental album: Resting with the Question (1992). A collection of deceptively simple, melancholy melodies, it has much more emotional depth than that associated (by me anyway) with new age music, so I wouldn't lump it in that category, though it is a keyboard album (composed and produced by Ferron and performed in its entirety by her on a Korg M1 keyboard). Despite it's digital composition, it's sparseness gives it an acoustic feel. I heartily recommended it for quiet, solitary, rainy afternoons... *sigh* ...stop me before I get started on a sad song thread again. ~AC - --- Robert Lovejoy wrote: You know, if you eliminate film and TV soundtracks, the concept of the pop instrumental seems to have vanished I grew up with the Ventures, loved the Shadows and the Tornadoes, and many other instrumental groups, but today the instrumental seems to be mostly new-age music's domain (And let's not forget Jazz).. I'll nominate Mike Oldfield and of course Kevin Bartlett as current masters of the genre (in that their music is not strictly new age). There's also The Rachels. And Pink Floyd had some nice instrumental tracks along the way. Looking forward to others recollections! Bob Lovejoy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 17:45:20 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: OK, this is me, yammering on! Hi, Jeffy recalled: >But those were all in the 80s. Now I'm trying to think >of some from the 90's...anyone? I may be completely misremembering the song, but wasn't there an instrumental hit song in the '90s called "Cantaloop"? (Or was that the name of the group that did it?) =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:34:25 EST From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: Re: Apartment Hunting Can't wait to get the DVD. The soundtrack was incredible. That was one of the most lo-fi recordings of last year, basically just a mic set up in Rusty the guitarist's bedroom and away they went. It's such a special record. Heard Mary was so turned on by the experience of recording the soundtrack that she's planning on making a new album before too long. joe joe and ellen music http://www.jotdot.net/joeandellen http://www.mp3.com/joeandellen ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #336 **************************