From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #271 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Thursday, September 25 2003 Volume 09 : Number 271 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friend... [Mike Matthews ] A CNN Article on Michelle Schocked [Neile Graham ] new icelandic ecto [Jason Gordon ] How to say goodbye - Susan Robkin [karen hester ] 'Goner' - McKinley [karen hester ] unexpected ecto [Steve VanDevender ] Re: unexpected ecto ["Peter Clark" ] Re: unexpected ecto [Joseph Zitt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 03:00:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friend... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************** Lord Tyr (LordTyr@paganpower.com) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Lord Tyr Mon September 24 1979 Libran Paul Kim Sat October 01 1977 fetal position JoAnn Whetsell Fri October 01 1976 Pendulum William Gill Wed October 05 1960 A wide-eyed wanderer Dan Riley Sun October 08 1961 Libra Neile Graham Wed October 08 1958 pen Quenby M. Chunco Tue October 08 1968 Crunchy Frog Mike Garland Wed October 08 1952 Creature_of_the_Night Irvin Lin Tue October 09 1973 Libra Michael C. Berch Wed October 10 1956 No parking Chris Gagnon Sat October 10 1970 Libra Wolfgang Drotschmann Thu October 13 1966 Waage Gracescape Fri October 13 1967 unbalanced Brian Bloom Tue October 14 1969 spam Erik N. Johnson Tue October 16 1962 Handle with Care Kim Klouda Tue October 17 1967 Libra Anthony Amato Sat October 20 1973 Libra Suzanne DeCory Tue October 22 1968 Balancing Libra Dave Steiner Sat October 24 1959 Scorpio - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:05:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Neile Graham Subject: A CNN Article on Michelle Schocked is at http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/24/music.michelle.shocked.ap/index.html for those interested. - --Neile ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 19:12:02 -0400 From: Jason Gordon Subject: new icelandic ecto I just got back from lovely iceland and have some new icelandic ectostuff to drool over...top on the list is the band Worm is Green (album called automagic). Song samples can be found at: http://www.etoile-polaire.com/ep_en/roster_en.htm I was lucky to catch them in concert last Thursday along with Einar Orn (formerly of the Sugarcubes). I adored Worm's set - lovely understated female vocals set against interesting mostly down tempo electronica...I dont know how many computers the main guy was playing but he had a ton of gadgets - one of which looked like a LCD keyboard that was the size of one hand. Very very tasty. And a lot of the icelandic music scene was in attendance - most of sigur ros dropped in to see the show as well as the lead singer to blur (forgive me for not knowing his name)...not much else happening during the week in reykjavik I guess... Einar's set btw really didnt blow me away...sort of loud avant garde jazz rock type stuff...the instrumental bits were better than his singing...but he did have a really cool mini-sized trumpet. Other icelandic goodness worth checking out is a cd by Hera called "not your type" - sort of the icelandic susan court for lack of a better description. Also Heida's solo album called "svarid" (heida is the singer from Unun). And I did manage to find a copy (the only copy) of Emiliana Torrini's Merman for sale in the country...now to track down the even rarer first album and her work in the group Spoon. Jason, still recovering from jet lag... np Worm is Green PS I took a bunch of pictures at the concert and can email anyone interested once they get back from the developers on friday...and not that it matters but the lead singer of worm is green is absolutely drop dead gorgeous ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:54:00 -0700 (PDT) From: karen hester Subject: How to say goodbye - Susan Robkin 'How to say goodbye' by Susan Robkin Mainstream rock must be one of the more difficult genres to survive in. People who listen to alternative rock, folk, world music etc are used to searching out new artists and reading the press that covers their favourite type of music. I'm not sure if Sheryl Crow fans bother with up-and-comers - if you don't appreciate the quirks and distinctness of musicians finding their voice or those who have committed themselves to the edges of the business, and you aren't concerned with the cool of discovering the next big thing before its big, then you can just wait for that fully formed big thing to be served up. One of my flatmates is a Sheryl Crow fan and he accuses me of snobbery for having spent time searching out Patty Griffin's music when I could easily buy Crow's locally. Well, no, it is because I *like* Patty's music a hell of a lot more, but the relationship between music fanatics and obscure music is often commented on. Sure I was aware of the role music played in identity as a teenager, but new and obscure music is common in many music lover's collections as a result of their passion for music, not as a means to establish credentials. Susan Robkin's 'How to say goodbye' is good straight forward melodic rock, which isn't quite my thing. She has a rich and powerful voice which she uses well and with personality. The guitars sometimes dominate things a bit, and they aren't interesting enough in themselves, as are, for example, the similar guitar sound on Rainer Maria's latest. The songs include the catchy gentle walking-pace 'nobody knows you', the strumming 'Happiness' with a weary 'cry cry cry' refrain, distracting vocal distortion in the eastern tingued 'Broken inside', and the slinky 'Pretty girl' with a bass-line like Heart's 'Magic man'. I can imagine a slightly re-recorded version of this making it 'big', but maybe lots of albums I haven't heard fall into that category. If you like Sheryl Crow and Melissa Etheridge, you may also like this; it doesn't have the country or bluesy touches of those two, nor an alternative-rock guitar sound that would appeal to others. But maybe people who like Crow and Etheridge can't be bothered searching something out which isn't quite as good and polished yet. Samples at www.susanrobkin.com. Karen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:07:35 -0700 (PDT) From: karen hester Subject: 'Goner' - McKinley This album is a charming surprise, lovely off-kilter melancholy pop with gentle acoustic-centred arrangements. The cdbaby samples don't allow the subtle music to shine (you can download a couple full tracks at http://www.mckinley-music.com/). The album is thematic - in most of the songs McKinley leaves, others leave her, or she becomes less and less herself. McKinley's voice is full of character, bright and somewhat girlish, with a strong American accent; reminds me of a disenchanted Frente, or Zoe Lewis without the giddy humour. My favourite tracks are the opening fragile pair - 'Tired' and 'Goner,' and then I like the final three songs. The last two are the main change of pace in this steady quiet album - 'Whistling' ends with louder urgent guitars, and the lonely nighttime drive of 'Stranger's Windows' is atmospheric with tinkling bells and noises like a creeping bowed instrument, creating a theatrical slightly spaghetti western feel. The album sags a bit in the middle. Due to their differing styles, it's possible to like 'Goner' but not her other albums, or vice versa. In an article in the Sunday Oregonian McKinley expressed her original discomfort with the prettiness and musical simplicity of 'Goner', and people who liked her earlier stuff may find this one a bit boring. However, if lost-love songs appeal to you in your current mood, you could love this album. Karen __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:17:24 -0700 From: Steve VanDevender Subject: unexpected ecto I don't normally watch "The West Wing", but I was bored and left it on. At the end of the show, they had one of those music-over-montage sequences with some music I assumed they thought sounded ecclesiastic, and after only a few seconds it tickled my memory. So I pulled out Lisa Gerrard's _The Mirror Pool_ and even picked the right track from memory -- it was "Sanvean (i am your shadow)". n.r. _Revenge of the Lawn_, Richard Brautigan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:33:15 -0700 From: "Peter Clark" Subject: Re: unexpected ecto Indeed. On more than one occasion I've overheard folks asserting that Dead Can Dance is preferred music for their religious services. I wonder about the state of their spirituality, considering Lisa doesn't often write lyrics in any other than her private language. What they do on "The West Wing" is often similarly incomprehensible. ps I'm a huge DCD fan and have all of their work together and solo in two formats. I'm not dissing Lisa and Brendan. Peter C - -= High Performance Analogue =- www.redpoint-audio-design.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve VanDevender" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:17 PM Subject: unexpected ecto : I don't normally watch "The West Wing", but I was bored and left it on. : At the end of the show, they had one of those music-over-montage : sequences with some music I assumed they thought sounded ecclesiastic, : and after only a few seconds it tickled my memory. So I pulled out Lisa : Gerrard's _The Mirror Pool_ and even picked the right track from memory : -- it was "Sanvean (i am your shadow)". : : n.r. _Revenge of the Lawn_, Richard Brautigan : : ------------------------------ Date: 24 Sep 2003 22:58:19 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: unexpected ecto On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 22:33, Peter Clark wrote: > On more than one occasion I've overheard folks asserting that Dead Can Dance > is preferred music for their religious services. I wonder about the state > of their spirituality, considering Lisa doesn't often write lyrics in any > other than her private language. What they do on "The West Wing" is often > similarly incomprehensible. As someone who mostly sings in a "private language", I can see where they're coming from. Music with lyrics in a language that one doesn't speak has the advantage of not clashing with other things, and not demanding word-oriented attention, in the way that, say, a hymn might. I don't see what aspect of that might cause one to wonder about whatever aspect of the person's spirituality, but maybe I'm missing something. The use of "Sanvean" tonight was over the scene of the (temporarily-ex-) President receiving communion. It worked well to convey the religious feel of the scene, without imposing any particular burden of words on it, thus allowing it to work entirely non-verbally. n.p. Lisa Gerrard: The Mirror Pool (after having finally seen "Whale Rider" today -- wonderful movie, with a strong Lisa Gerrard soundtrack). ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #271 **************************