From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #221 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Tuesday, August 5 2003 Volume 09 : Number 221 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Boston busker beginnings? [Sherlyn Koo ] Re: ecto-digest V9 #220 [iflin@speakeasy.net] Re: Boston busker beginnings? ["Robert Lovejoy" ] RE: Boston busker beginnings? ["Clifford, Laura" ] Bluegrass Stylings ["Lyle Howard" ] Thea Gilmore single / Charlotte Martin EP & Tour [] BBC on CD pirates [Michael Curry ] RE: New CD Baby offerings ["Xenu's Sister" ] Marit Peters' _Dead Reckoning_ ["Bill" ] Re: Hi there! Just discovered your newsgroup [robert bristow-johnson Subject: Re: Boston busker beginnings? Hey folks, Mitch said: > An artist I am reviewing for the Ectophiles Guide, according to her > promos, got her start singing in the Boston subways. I recall reading, > years ago, that Aimee Mann got her start in the same place; but now I > can't find any documentation. Anyone here know? I don't know about Aimee Mann, but I do know that Peter Mulvey started off busking in the Boston subway. In fact, he recently put out an album which was all recorded down there... - -sherlyn - -- Sherlyn Koo - sherlyn@pixelopolis.com - Sydney, Australia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 08:35:05 +0000 From: iflin@speakeasy.net Subject: Re: ecto-digest V9 #220 > From: "Mitchell A. Pravatiner" > An artist I am reviewing for the Ectophiles Guide, according to her > promos, got her start singing in the Boston subways. I recall reading, > years ago, that Aimee Mann got her start in the same place; but now I > can't find any documentation. Anyone here know? though i by far NOT an expert in AIMEE MANN history, i have no recollection of her singing in the BOSTON subways, pre 'TIL TUESDAY (all i know of that era of her life, was that she was in an "art rock" band called YOUNG SNAKES and went to BERKELEE SCHOOL OF MUSIC before dropping out after a year). are you sure you aren't mixing her up with MARY LOU LORD or JULIANA HATFIELD (the former, i am SURE has busked in the boston subway - and probably still does, and the later i am pretty sure has busked, but not positive)? perhaps this website http://www.aimeemanninprint.com will help you find some documentation. it's an archive (though i don't know how comprehensive it is) of articles and interviews with AIMEE MANN, grouped by year. irvin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 07:09:22 -0400 From: "Robert Lovejoy" Subject: Re: Boston busker beginnings? I was living in Boston when a band called Til Tuesday won a WBCN battle of the bands contest at a local club. Very heady times, musically. Boston gas always had stellar local bands. I don't know about Aimee busking there - but there was a large number of buskers as the T supported the practice. I always dug her bass playing! Bob Lovejoy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 07:16:32 -0600 From: "Clifford, Laura" Subject: RE: Boston busker beginnings? She (Aimee Mann) used to work at the original Newbury Comics record store, but I never knew of her playing in the subway. Tracey Chapman, I believe, did though.... Laura - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mitchell A. Pravatiner Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 1:53 AM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: Boston busker beginnings? An artist I am reviewing for the Ectophiles Guide, according to her promos, got her start singing in the Boston subways. I recall reading, years ago, that Aimee Mann got her start in the same place; but now I can't find any documentation. Anyone here know? Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 16:36:47 -0000 From: "neal copperman" Subject: RE: Boston busker beginnings? "Clifford, Laura" said: > She (Aimee Mann) used to work at the original Newbury Comics record > store, but I never knew of her playing in the subway. Tracey Chapman, I > believe, did though.... Given Tracy Chapman's notorious stage fright and shyness, it's hard for me to imagine her busking. (Note: I don't actually know that she never busked.) neal np: New Maps of Hell - Gods Little Monkeys ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 16:58:42 +0000 From: "Lyle Howard" Subject: Bluegrass Stylings Hola, Last night, Sunday, I played a church ice cream social with the most lethal instrument pairing I have ever unleashed on the public. Yes, we had a banjo and an accordian, playing together at one venue in front of tens of people. We increased the kill ratio by adding my friend's and my vocals to the mix. My friend has wandering pitch and sometimes questionable tonality. I have the ability to remove the tops of people's skulls with nasal, piercing frequencies. Add to the above misery the world's worst bluegrass harmonica player and a dobro player who likes to add extra beats and measures to whatever song is being played. To my astonishment, no one died as a result of this foolishness. And, on at least six or seven occasions our little pickup band hit a groove which provided momentary satisfaction. On two songs a fellow with a beautiful voice sang and I think my harmony vocals actually complimented what he was singing. I went home and took a hot bath to the tune of the local public radio station, KERA. David Minor was on, playing decent music, the only decent music in the metroplex. He played a Jennifer Warnes song that I expected to be from _Famous Blue Raincoat_. It was, instead, from a Rob Wasserman cd called _Duets_. A great song. My blistered ears were restored to their pristine, albeit aging, condition. Bye, Lyle _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 18:28:19 +0000 From: Subject: Thea Gilmore single / Charlotte Martin EP & Tour Hi Guys, Anyone else in the UK pick up the new Thea Gilmore single, Juliet (Keep That In Mind)? I was surprised by how differently produced it was compared to her earlier stuff (although it's the same person doing it) - much more radio friendly. For me, though, it's the B-Sides that really shine - I don't think there's one of those tracks that wouldn't have been good enough to go on Rules For Jokers (which you should all check out if you haven't already, I believe it's available domestically in the US now - albeit resequenced and with a different cover) and seems to bode well for the new album, Avalanche, which is out soon... and can be bought very cheaply from www.cd-wow.net - I think it's $14 including shipping. Without wishing to ramble on, the other tracks are much closer to the acoustic stuff that Thea's famous for, Hooligansville is particularly good, as is Throw The Bouquet. Oh, and Charlotte Martin's EP is out on Tuesday, about $5 from Amazon, and is apparently well worth checking out. I haven't heard the studio version of the tracks, but some full live shows are available to download at if anyone wants to investigate further. There's some good covers including Black Hole Sun and Fake Plastic Trees. http://webdev.archive.org/audio/etreelisting-browse.php?collection=etree&cat=Charlotte%20Martin Cheers, Mike - ----------------------------------------- Email provided by http://www.ntlhome.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:21:31 -0700 From: Greg Bossert Subject: Re: Boston busker beginnings? On Monday, Aug 4, 2003, at 06:16 US/Pacific, Clifford, Laura wrote: > She (Aimee Mann) used to work at the original Newbury Comics record > store, but I never knew of her playing in the subway. Tracey Chapman, > I > believe, did though.... actually, relatively few people actually play in the boston subway. 'twas discouraged by official sorts through the '70s and '80s; sometime in the '90s they started giving out licenses to play, with schedule and required audition, etc. nor is downtown boston all that busker-friendly, due to police attitudes and narrow sidewalks. however, Harvard Square in cambridge, MA, just across the river, is a brilliant place to play and/or watch people playing -- wide sidewalks, big audiences, even a few little amphitheatre-like spots put in by the city during major reconstruction in the '80s. since the Square is a major MBTA (formerly MTA, as in "Charlie on the") stop, and since the subway station itself sprawls across the Square with various shelters, nooks, and ramps, a lot of the stories of people playing in the subway in Boston really refer to the Square... if you haven't guessed, i grew up there, pretty much in the center of the Square (two blocks of Mass Ave on Holyoke street, Lowell House Master's Residence, for those in the area). a usual weekend nights entertainment in the summer was walking a series of loops around the square, watching the musicians/jugglers/actors/loonies, with stops for food and drink as needed. i miss those days, here in california where i drive half an hour just to find a decent place to sit with a cup of coffee. and yes, Tracy Chapman used to play there -- i probably saw her but i guess she didn't make an impression at the time. no criticism of her, really; the average quality of the busking was quite impressively high... i used to see Aimee about the Square, at shows (sat near her at a memorable Leon Redbone show, for one, and i think she was at one of the 3 Mustaphas 3 shows i saw -- good taste, she's got ;-) or just walking about. regret having missed the Young Snakes -- a friend did, and took delight in telling me how good they were (and how punkly cute Aimee was - -- a cruel twist of the knife, that ;-) probably saw her at Newbury's, too -- ah, if my teenage self had only, erm, not been such an idiot... ;-) - -g - -- "i've never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world" - -- Happy Rhodes - -- "except for bunnies..." - -- Anya ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 22:20:01 -0400 From: Michael Curry Subject: BBC on CD pirates There's an interesting article over at the BBC News website which argues that it's large-scale CD piracy that's killing CD sales, not P2P file sharing. I'm not looking to start another debate on the topic, but I thought some of you might like to read it.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3117505.stm Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 21:28:34 -0500 From: "Xenu's Sister" Subject: RE: New CD Baby offerings Ach, due to a massive screwup we've been without net access after the move (someone there cancelled the order, twice! And all because we kept our same phone number. People or computers along the line couldn't figure why our address was changing but not our phone number, so rather than find out, the order for DSL was cancelled, without telling us. Twice!!) I'm backkkkkk! I (well, Chris) got the computer running, I've put the kitchen and bathroom in order, the DVDs and the CDs are up on shelves, in nice alphabetical order. The "Specials" shelving unit (only Kate/Happy/Tori/Gabriel/Genesis/Rundgren/Buckley/Siberry) is placed and stocked. For some reason there are still dozens and dozens of boxes! They must be someone elses. I'm so way behind but what's this about $40.00 and CD Baby (or itunes?) will carry something? Or something? Should we take up a collection and get Ms. Happy Rhodes carried? All this yaka yaka about how great CD Baby is, but I notice a distinct lack of CDs by one of the most interesting and talented American artists at their site. Isn't this a problem?? Vickie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 22:02:26 -0700 From: "Bill" Subject: Marit Peters' _Dead Reckoning_ Ectos: Someone, from New Zealand, wrote to me for info leading to getting a copy of Marit Peters' _Dead Reckoning_ CD; I have a copy of my own, but Amazon.com, the original provider, apparently is all out, and nowhere else is the disc to be found. Since Ectos know all, I thought I'd ask. - - Bill G. np: Anna Maria Mix III ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 01:19:49 -0400 From: robert bristow-johnson Subject: Re: Hi there! Just discovered your newsgroup In article 1fb0e98e.0308040106.519cb9e9@posting.google.com, Lilybert at raffaella.arnaldi.s@tin.it wrote on 08/04/2003 05:06: > robert bristow-johnson wrote in message > news:... > >> you should check out the newsgroup's "namesake", Happy Rhodes (f.m.e is >> named after a CD of hers called Ecto). > > Thanks. > Where do I find the FAQs? go to the ecto.org site or just type "Happy Rhodes" into Google (incl. quotes) and see what pops up. check out her site at auntiesocialmusic.com. >>> I'm disappointed with the music scene of today, as many of you may be. >> >> i've been that way since the 70s. > > He... Different generations, different standards. :-P i think you're kidding. commercial music sucked back then as it does now. when people ask me what i listened to back then, i said Captain Beyond (no, not Captain Beefhart or Captain and Tenille or whatever), Blue Oyster Cult (before the Reaper song came out), Led Zep (early stuff), Yes (Happy likes Yes a lot also, i really dug them until the abomination "Tormato" came out and then gave up), Todd Rundgren, a German band called Finch, a Dutch band called Kayak, King Crimson of course, early Police (Roxanne), oh i dunno, nothing else until i started getting into prog jazz (Jean Luc Ponty, Jan Ackerman, Paul Winter, Ralph Towner and Oregon). in the 80s i started to listen to some "New Age" stuff on Windham Hill (Shadowfax). i dunno. i didn't discover Happy Rhodes until 1995 when i was listening to Echoes on NPR or PRI or whatever Fordham University broadcasts. r b-j ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #221 **************************