From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #183 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Wednesday, June 25 2003 Volume 09 : Number 183 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Exile in Phairedux? [Paul Blair ] Re: Exile in Phairedux? [Joseph Zitt ] Re: sad songs [Neal Copperman ] Re: Ecto concerts in October? [Neal Copperman ] Fwd: New Signature web site grand opening sale - all CD's $9.99!! [Neal C] My Sad Songs [Neb Rodgers ] Fwd: What Your Taste in Music Says About You [Neb Rodgers ] RE: sad songs [dmw ] OT: NEARFest? ["Mark Chapman" ] Re: saddest songs [Jerene Waite ] saddest songs for me [Damon ] how about happy songs? [Damon ] help us with a fun survey! [Meredith Tarr ] RE: how about happy songs? [JoAnn Whetsell ] Trashing Liz Phair [MRL220@aol.com] Re: how about happy songs? [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: how about happy songs? ["Kira Barnes" ] Re: Erasure Solsbury Hill... [alberto carrasco ] RE: how about happy songs? [Jason Gordon ] RE: how about happy songs? [kitty kat ] Re: how about happy songs? [Damon ] RE: how about happy songs? [Andrew Fries ] Re: how about happy songs? [jonathan soong ] Re: how about happy songs? [Andrew Fries ] RE: how about happy songs? [jjhanson@att.net] Living room concerts + some more sad songs. [weak | a/t widoff ] Fwd: Will Anne open for Jewel? It's up to You! :-) [meredith Subject: Re: Exile in Phairedux? Martin Edlund's review in Tuesday's *New York Sun* sounds familiar: >It turns out there is something sadder than an aging starlet: a >respected songwriter trying to remake herself as a teenage pop >sensation. > > Over the last year, an acute case of mid-career crisis has >struck the 30-something female set. One moment Sheryl Crow is >standing alongside Willie Nelson, singing smart, smoky love >songs.The next she9s frolicking on a beach in a bikini belting >drivel like, "I9m gonna soak up the sun / I9m gonna tell everyone to >lighten up." > > Crow isn9t the only one afflicted, it seems.Pop-folk singer >Jewel decided to burnish her image by trading acoustic guitar and >poetic aspirations for neon pink pants and a drum machine on her new >album "0304." She now looks more like 1980s cartoon-rocker Gem than >the Jewel we all know and tolerate. > > The most distressing example of this trend, however, is one-time >college-rock queen, Liz Phair.... Phair is 36 going on 17. > > ...It9s funny to see a whip-smart actress play an airhead, >because we know she9s only trying on a character. But to see a >musician do so is depressing. < http://daily.nysun.com/Repository/ml.asp?Issue=NYS/2003/06/24&ID=Ar01502&Mode=HTML > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:29:55 -0700 From: Joseph Zitt Subject: Re: Exile in Phairedux? The new Liz Phair came in this morning, and my coworkers immediately popped it on the overhead sound system. It was good, poppy stuff, sounding rather like the new Jewel on first listen. Some teenage girls immediately grabbed a copy as a birthday present for their mother. A few minutes later, the song "HWC" came on. A look of aghastitude fell over our faces upon hearing the lyrics , and it took a little while for anyone to hit the off button. By then the girls were long gone. I hope their mother has a liberal attitude... or a sense of humor... or something. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 00:32:31 -0600 From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: sad songs At 4:49 PM -0400 6/24/03, dmw wrote: >My first order from Daedalus Books (sp?) was my introduction to a couple >of authors who still rank high among my favorites (most especially the >vastly underrated (imho) Jean Echenoz, who writes things that are loosely >mysteries but mostly surreal and hilarious character pieces. Daedalus is a great catalog to order from. Full of great stuff at really cheep prices. Doug, did you realize that Daedalus actually has a warehouse in Columbia MD? If you are heading up towards Baltimore, you might want to stop and visit. It's just off of 32, between 95 & 295. Take Broken Land Parkway North, turn right at the first light and look for signs. Later, neal np: Botox Tango - Cosy Sheridan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 00:42:50 -0600 From: Neal Copperman Subject: Re: Ecto concerts in October? At 9:57 PM +0200 6/24/03, Sander wrote: >Being nearly done with a lifetime of school and study, I'm preparing >to migrate to the other side of the world for a year or two of >traveling and experiencing. Sounds exciting Sander. Have a great trip. If you are driving cross country (and I couldn't tell from your note), drop me a note if you are passing through New Mexico. In October, we are tentatively having two house concerts. Almost confirmed at the moment. Dates likely. Oct 19: D-Squared (duo of harp and guitar, male and female, both sing and are supposedly very funny and good storytellers. The album is really pretty. I'm not usually into pretty, but this seems meaty enough to work.) Oct 30: Wendy Rule (If you are coming from Australia, maybe that's not what you are looking for!) >Finally I have no experience with where to look for information >about shows, other than on the artists' sites or on ecto. I've >signed up for Vienna's list, so that at least should be covered, but >are there any places I can look at for a general overview? Check out http://www.houseconcerts.com to try to find links for house concerts in the area you are looking at. Check out http://www.pollstar.com (for mostly bigger, more popular shows) and http://www.musi-cal.com (for smaller, more independent concerts). You'll find lots of house concerts and other interesting things in musi-cal. Have a great trip! Be sure to send us reviews. neal np: Botox Tango - Cosy Sheridan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 01:03:53 -0600 From: Neal Copperman Subject: Fwd: New Signature web site grand opening sale - all CD's $9.99!! I was really excited about the following announcement. Signature Sounds has a ton of great stuff, and this is an amazing deal. I was even more thrilled when I went to the site and saw new Rani Arbo and Amy Rigby. But after I added Rani to my cart, nothing else on the site worked right. Ah well, I didn't need more CD's at the moment anyway. If you want to give it a try, it is a good sale. neal np: Coconut Moon - Green Chili Jam Band > >We have a brand new web site at http://www.signaturesounds.com The >new site features the latest news, download specials and lots more. > >GRAND OPENING SALE - ALL SINGLE CD'S $9.99!!! > >To celebrate the arrival of our brand new web site, we are having a >special one week sale. Now through June 30th, all single disc CD's >are just $9.99! All double disc sets are $5 off our usual prices. >(discounts will be applied upon check-out) > >http://www.signaturesounds.com >======================== >To be removed from this e-mail list, please click on or copy the >following URL into your browser: >http://www.signaturesounds.com/unsubscribe.cfm?eml=neal@swcp.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 00:51:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Neb Rodgers Subject: My Sad Songs My votes for my favorite sad songs or albums: Almost anything by Scott Walker (he ranks as a beautiful voice as well). Most Nick Drake albums, especially Pink Moon, and the few later tracks. Hank Williams' "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" King Crimson's "Epitaph" Gabriel Faure "Requiem" (a French impressionist requiem) ...and many more. - -Neb __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 01:35:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Neb Rodgers Subject: Fwd: What Your Taste in Music Says About You I think this theory is a little simplistic, but I do basically agree with it. - -Neb - ----Original Message Follows---- What Your Taste in Music Says About You Musical Styles and Preferences Reveal Personality Traits By Jennifer Warner WebMD Medical News on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/66/79748.htm Whether you're a little bit country or a little bit rock and roll, the type of music you listen to may say a lot about your personality. A new study shows there's a good reason why the question, "So, what kind of music do you listen to?" comes up often during first dates -- the answer may speak volumes about another person's personality traits, interests, and outlook on life. And it turns out that classical music aficionados may have a lot in common with die-hard heavy metal fans. The study, published in the June issue of Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, analyzed the musical tastes of more than 3,500 individuals and found the musical styles people favor are closely linked to their personalities. It showed that musical preferences could be organized into the following four general dimensions according to the level of complexity, emotion, and energy found in each musical style: Reflective and complex - classical, jazz, blues, and folk Intense and rebellious - alternative, rock, and heavy metal Upbeat and conventional - pop, religious, country, and soundtracks Energetic and rhythmic - rap/hip-hop, soul/funk, and electronica/dance Researchers say each of these broad categories of musical preferences was also closely linked to an individual's personality traits, self-perception, and cognitive ability or intelligence. For example, people who preferred classical music or other types of music classified as reflective and complex were likely to be open to new experiences, intelligent, politically liberal, and less athletic. Heavy metal fans who liked intense and rebellious music also tended to be open to new experiences and consider themselves intelligent, but they were also curious about different things, enjoy taking risks, and physically active. Researchers say their analysis suggests that people who enjoy upbeat and conventional music styles like popular and religious music are cheerful, socially outgoing, reliable, enjoy helping others, view themselves as physically attractive, and be relatively conventional. But rap fans and others classified as listening to musical styles considered as energetic and rhythmic literally followed the beat of a different drummer. The study showed these people tend to be talkative, full of energy, forgiving, and eschew conservative ideals. The participants believed that musical preferences revealed as much about their personalities as their hobbies did. And when it came to sizing up others, musical preferences ranked second only to hobbies in terms of what the participants felt revealed the most about others' personalities -- more than what kinds of books or magazines they read. Researchers Peter J. Rentfrow and Samuel D. Gosling of the University of Texas at Austin say many questions remain before any concrete theories on musical preferences can be made. But their results show that, "It is clear to us that music can contribute much to the understanding of many psychological phenomena." - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SOURCE: Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, June 2003. ) 2003 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:38:23 -0400 From: JoAnn Whetsell Subject: RE: sad songs Can you tell us (me) more about Julie Doiron? I found an mp3 of her song "Le Piano" online and thought it rather beautiful in a sort of spare and haunting way (on the first listen). Would be interested in checking her out some more. Her website seemed not too helpful, but I didn't get to spend much time there. Thanks. JoAnn - -----Original Message----- From: dmw [mailto:dmw@radix.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 4:49 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: sad songs I've recently been listeing to a lot of Carter Family (thank you, E-music!) and man, some of those are hard-hitting. Two I've been surprised to not see (might have missed in skimming): Paula Cole, "Saturn Girl" and Dar Williams "February." Richard Buckner and Julie Doiron have a lot of good sad songs. So does Pedro the Lion. My first order from Daedalus Books (sp?) was my introduction to a couple of authors who still rank high among my favorites (most especially the vastly underrated (imho) Jean Echenoz, who writes things that are loosely mysteries but mostly surreal and hilarious character pieces. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:02:33 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: RE: sad songs On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, JoAnn Whetsell wrote: > Can you tell us (me) more about Julie Doiron? I found an mp3 of her > song "Le Piano" online and thought it rather beautiful in a sort of > spare and haunting way (on the first listen). Would be interested in > checking her out some more. Her website seemed not too helpful, but I > didn't get to spend much time there. beautiful, spare and haunting are pretty much the right words. i often feel like i really shouldn't like her music -- it's too nakedly emotional and so minimalistic that on extremely close inspection it almost seems to disappear -- but, i dunno, she can strum one chord and whisper something that barely has a melody, and half the time i find it compelling even while rebelling against the compulsion. i think i like "loneliest in the morning" best, but i don't think it's in print (oh wait -- it's back in print, according to allmusic). i also like julie doiron and the wooden stars a lot, but since she's working with another band, it's a bit more "rock" (although not rawk or anything). she used to be in an extremely different band called eric's trip in the early 90's. unrelated: hey, do folks here no about the floating opera? they sent me a review copy of their latest disc; i think a lot of folks here might like it. very lush (but generally not overwhelming) production. smart lyrics. some nice harmony work. i think www.floatingopera.com might hook you up with something. ...you need comparisons? i think these are misleading, in the main, and almost all of these are more "pop" hook oriented, but i found myself recalling, in different ways, arson gardens, the production of jim steinman, the nields, and over the rhine. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:26:09 -0400 From: "Mark Chapman" Subject: OT: NEARFest? A real shot in the dark: anyone else going to NEARFest this weekend? (http://www.nearfest.com) I'll be there in row F or G. ~Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:37:45 -0700 From: Jerene Waite Subject: Re: saddest songs The one recording (not strictly a song) that always jerks tears from me is Jane Siberry's "New Year's Baby". The juxtaposition of joy at sharing in the birthing of the baby girl, followed by the tender empathy when seeing her in the hospital after a suicide attempt with all the teenage angst and defensive rebellion--these are described so visuo-emotionally. I cry for all the teenage angst and for their naive not-knowing that life will indeed change for them and they are not trapped. The album is "Child". On the subject of tragic story songs, Loreena McKennitt's "Lady of Chalot" and "The Highwayman" (although she did not write the lyrics!) are both compelling tales of ill-fated yearning. The length of each of these pieces draws me into the story and sustains the sad, sad ending. On the subject of relationships, ending or missing: "Breaking Vows" by Melissa Ferrick is a powerful expression of a relation-shipwreck. And (of course) Happy Rhodes' "The Chosen One"--a theme of watching from the side and wishing, wondering, why. Musicals contribute many powerfully sad songs. Les Mis, the Phantom, and the Secret Garden are my favorites for producing intense moments of poignant empathy for lost love and tragedy. The June gloom is lifting here in San Diego. Now that summer is officially begun, maybe I'll start thinking of some cheerful, non-SAD songs...... Jerene ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:15:50 -0700 From: Damon Subject: saddest songs for me ok, another thread i just have to chime in on a bit late - here are some songs that can reduce me to tears. - - melissa ferrick's `i am not' - and in fact several other songs off the album _willing to wait_ but especially that one. very bittersweet-hopeful relationship kind of thing. - - dar williams' `when i was a boy' - at least it always reduces me to tears when i'm in a receptive state. the last verse *really* hits home for me personally. - - the `i'll cover you' reprise, and `goodbye love' from the _rent_ soundtrack. what can i say? i think the emotions in both are extremely powerful... and when mimi sings `hello disease' at the end of `goodbye love' it sends shivers up my spine. - - at the end of my first relationship i listened to kate's `you're the one' quite a bit - i hadn't particularly understood it before, and i don't know that it would do a lot for me now, but at the time it was pretty powerful. - - recent addition: vienna teng's `between'... i just listened to it for the second time to make sure, as i'd only heard it once. this song totally floors me, i'm sure partly because it perfectly describes a recent situation. but regardless of situation - vienna, you tapped into something there. i don't even own the album yet but am just playing the exchange rate game until my next cdbaby purchase. but i might be afraid to listen to that one song again. i'm sure i'll think of others after i send this, but there probably aren't many songs that grab my heart and squeeze the way the above do. - -damon - -- dl+ecto@usrbin.ca: protecting my real address since 2002 (too late!) > EWS starts here! < ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:22:36 -0700 From: Damon Subject: how about happy songs? well now i'm feeling all depressed. so, how about a new thread: happy songs! what songs make you happy even when all around is doom and gloom? i'm not that big on happy songs in my collection, i guess - i suspect a lot of ectophiles are into the more introspective, `sad' side of things - and i can't say they're as memorable for me. ask me `what are the saddest songs' and i have a ready answer. now that i'm asking myself `what are the happy songs' i'm not so sure. hmmm. well, a happy *album* is merril bainbridge's _the garden_. i guess it's just hard not to smile while that's playing. (thanks piq!) i think cindy lee berryhill's `baby (should i have the baby?)' qualifies. well, it's not exactly *happy* but it sure as hell is fun. maybe toss chris de burgh's `patricia the stripper' into a similar category. and some of nina hagen's songs from _angstlos_ are just too fun not to smile at. but all of these don't quite fit the bill of what i'm looking for - they're happy because they're fun, and i could name lots of songs like that. i'm thinking more of music that's happy just because it's *happy* (no, not necessarily of the rhodes variety). ah, here we go - the eurythmics `there must be an angel (playing with my heart)'. there's a song that's guaranteed to make me feel better when i'm sad. melissa ferrick's `everything i need' (the song). it just feels so positive. interesting - she makes both happy and sad lists. obviously this woman's music affects me a lot. katell keineg's `one hell of a life' and the chorus of `smile' make me pretty damned happy. hm... this is a lot harder than i expected. the sad songs stick with me, the happy songs are more transient. i'm sure there are lots more but i forget them when i'm not listening to them. but it might be an interesting thread - anyone? - -damon - -- dl+ecto@usrbin.ca: protecting my real address since 2002 (too late!) > EWS starts here! < ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:45:29 -0400 From: Meredith Tarr Subject: help us with a fun survey! Hi, Many of you know longtime ectophile (and lately, ecto-lurker) Valerie Nozick. She's completing her MBA at the London School of Business, and has a project that requires the help of ectophiles. I've been helping her develop this, so I figured I'd sent over the URL and save her some time while she's freaking out finishing up. :) We have a quick survey to find out what types of music venues people prefer. It'll only take a minute or so to complete. Please go to http://formfactory.london.edu/form.asp?id=676 if you're interested in making your opinion known. The information gathered will remain private, though after Val's done with her project we may use it to create a real-world application somewhere down the line, who knows? You might just be participating in the start of the coolest place to see live ecto music on the planet. :) Thanks in advance -- we hope to see lots of responses! Oh -- I should also mention we need responses in by the end of this week. Thanks much, Meredith (on behalf of Valerie) meth@smoe.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:32:48 -0400 From: JoAnn Whetsell Subject: RE: how about happy songs? Shiny Happy People by R.E.M. How can you listen to this and *not* feel shiny and happy and warm and fuzzy inside? Katell Keineg's "Beautiful Day" (completely agree with "One Hell of a Life" also) And a song I've been playing for years whenever I want to start the morning off on a good note, Jane Siberry's "Bound By the Beauty." That song makes me so happy. Many others I'm sure, but these leap and bound and frolic right up to the top of my head. JoAnn - -----Original Message----- From: Damon [mailto:dl+ecto@usrbin.ca] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:23 PM To: ecto Subject: how about happy songs? well now i'm feeling all depressed. so, how about a new thread: happy songs! what songs make you happy even when all around is doom and gloom? i'm not that big on happy songs in my collection, i guess - i suspect a lot of ectophiles are into the more introspective, `sad' side of things - and i can't say they're as memorable for me. ask me `what are the saddest songs' and i have a ready answer. now that i'm asking myself `what are the happy songs' i'm not so sure. hmmm. well, a happy *album* is merril bainbridge's _the garden_. i guess it's just hard not to smile while that's playing. (thanks piq!) i think cindy lee berryhill's `baby (should i have the baby?)' qualifies. well, it's not exactly *happy* but it sure as hell is fun. maybe toss chris de burgh's `patricia the stripper' into a similar category. and some of nina hagen's songs from _angstlos_ are just too fun not to smile at. but all of these don't quite fit the bill of what i'm looking for - they're happy because they're fun, and i could name lots of songs like that. i'm thinking more of music that's happy just because it's *happy* (no, not necessarily of the rhodes variety). ah, here we go - the eurythmics `there must be an angel (playing with my heart)'. there's a song that's guaranteed to make me feel better when i'm sad. melissa ferrick's `everything i need' (the song). it just feels so positive. interesting - she makes both happy and sad lists. obviously this woman's music affects me a lot. katell keineg's `one hell of a life' and the chorus of `smile' make me pretty damned happy. hm... this is a lot harder than i expected. the sad songs stick with me, the happy songs are more transient. i'm sure there are lots more but i forget them when i'm not listening to them. but it might be an interesting thread - anyone? - -damon - -- dl+ecto@usrbin.ca: protecting my real address since 2002 (too late!) > EWS starts here! < ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:42:04 -0400 From: MRL220@aol.com Subject: Trashing Liz Phair The critics have had a good time trashing her latest CD especially the New York Times and The Chicago Tribune. I bought it anyway. Yes, its a long way from Exile and it might be a bit Avril or Michelle Branch-ish but its still a good CD. Good, not great. Liz may lose some old fans but she will probably gain some new ones. The first three cuts are the best. Its a little wierd, though. After including mostly easy, likable songs there is H.W.C. (you figure out what that means). This is why the album is listed to have explicit lyrics. That song in itself is OK, not great. For sure W.H.C. won't get any air time. Marty ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 12:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: how about happy songs? Damon wrote: > well now i'm feeling all depressed. so, how about a new thread: > happy songs! what songs make you happy even when all around is doom > and gloom? I dunno how ectophilic this list is, but these are the songs that are pretty much guaranteed to improve my mood ... R.E.M. and Sesame Street - Furry Happy Monsters (especially the bit where Michael Stipe tells the monsters that they can be happy) R.E.M. - Walk Unafraid Cowboy Junkies - Anniversary Song (they even call it their only happy song) Josh Joplin - Weebles (weebles wobble but they don't fall down!) almost any version of 'They Can't Take That Away from Me' Paul Kelly - Anastasia Changes Her Mind Beatles - When I'm 64 Peter Gabriel - Solisbury Hill (I recently heard Erasure doing their cover of it, but live and acoustic, and really really liked that, and would give my left breast for an MP3 of it) There's more, this is just off the top of my head. I have a 'shiny happy' playlist in iTunes, but I haven't synced it to my iPod yet, so I can't reference that at this split instant. /nm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:23:06 -0700 From: "Kira Barnes" Subject: Re: how about happy songs? Damon asks: what songs make you happy even when all around is doom and >gloom? "Roam" by the B-52s always makes me grin and start dancing around singing along. Which can be dangerous when driving. A happy Happy song I can think of is "If Love Is a Game, I Win." Jane Siberry, "One More Colour"... ____________________________________________________________ Free 20MB Web Site Hosting and Personalized E-mail Service! Get It Now At Doteasy.com http://www.doteasy.com/et/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:46:13 -0700 (PDT) From: alberto carrasco Subject: Re: Erasure Solsbury Hill... Try here, maybe under Solsbury Hill remixes?: http://www.artistdirect.com/store/artist/album/full/0,,427932,00.html If you find what you're looking for, no need to send the breast. Just a jpeg of it would be fine. :-}~ heh. - --- Nadyne Mielke wrote: Peter Gabriel - Solisbury Hill (I recently heard Erasure doing their cover of it, but live and acoustic, and really really liked that, and would give my left breast for an MP3 of it) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:21:40 -0400 From: Jason Gordon Subject: RE: how about happy songs? Happiest album: Marvin the Album by Frente! - hard to be sad listening to it... The Nields "Gotta Get Over Greta" always puts me in a good mood as well - -Jason PS Also wholeheartedly agree with Katell's One Hell of a Life ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:29:09 -0700 (PDT) From: kitty kat Subject: RE: how about happy songs? On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Jason Gordon wrote: > > PS Also wholeheartedly agree with Katell's One Hell of a Life > I deleted the whole sad song thread because it was just too depressing - what's everyone wholeheartedly agreeing about? I buried my pet rabbit to "One Hell of a Life" (Plant a bush above my head...), so it certainly always reduces me to tears. - -Kat ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 15:37:12 -0700 From: Damon Subject: Re: how about happy songs? On 25 Jun, JoAnn Whetsell wrote: > Shiny Happy People by R.E.M. How can you listen to this and *not* feel shiny and happy and warm and fuzzy inside? hm, i should find someone with their albums... i know i like REM's sound but haven't actually purposely listened to anything by them that i recall. > Katell Keineg's "Beautiful Day" (completely agree with "One Hell of a Life" also) oo, lucky me, i get to hear this for the first time as soon as i get fed up playing the exchange rate game. i only have _jet_ so far but the whole album, even the sad songs, generally makes me feel happy, it's just so good. > And a song I've been playing for years whenever I want to start the morning off on a good note, Jane Siberry's "Bound By the Beauty." That song makes me so happy. ah yes - another good choice. one thing that comes to mind readily that made me feel happy and uplifted in recent memory was the movie _amelie_, partly just because it was something new by jean-pierre jeunet, who for _city of lost children_ and _delicatessen_ shares a spot with miyazaki as my favourite director. i'm not much of a movie buff but i know what i like. - -babbling damon - -- dl+ecto@usrbin.ca: protecting my real address since 2002 (too late!) > EWS starts here! < ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jun 2003 10:17:29 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: RE: how about happy songs? On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 08:21, Jason Gordon wrote: > Happiest album: Marvin the Album by Frente! - hard to be sad listening to > it... Heh, I was just going to nominate "Accidently Kelly Street" which is chirpy and happy and bouncy indeed. But Frente were a much misunderstood band - under that sweet voice and jangly tunes there was often a barb, or an undercurrent of sadness, and puzzlement. I don't find them, on the whole, particularly cheerful. But maybe I'm just a morose individual. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Grrr...Arrgh!" -- Mutant - -- 10:09:17 up 11 days, 22:22, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 09:54:40 +0930 From: jonathan soong Subject: Re: how about happy songs? i think i'd prefer to talk about happy songs :) there was an Australian band called the Killjoys who did an album called 'A Million Suns' that was the happiest album i heard. it could always make you happy Andrew Fries wrote: >On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 08:21, Jason Gordon wrote: > > >>Happiest album: Marvin the Album by Frente! - hard to be sad listening to >>it... >> >> >Heh, I was just going to nominate "Accidently Kelly Street" which is >chirpy and happy and bouncy indeed. But Frente were a much misunderstood >band - under that sweet voice and jangly tunes there was often a barb, >or an undercurrent of sadness, and puzzlement. I don't find them, on the >whole, particularly cheerful. But maybe I'm just a morose individual. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >"Grrr...Arrgh!" > -- Mutant >-- 10:09:17 up 11 days, 22:22, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00-- ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jun 2003 10:34:16 +1000 From: Andrew Fries Subject: Re: how about happy songs? On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 10:24, jonathan soong wrote: > i think i'd prefer to talk about happy songs :) > > there was an Australian band called the Killjoys who did an album called > 'A Million Suns' Yeah, lovely, lovely record - one of my favourites. Anna Burley has one of those voices that just make me melt... But why the past tense? As far as I know, they are still around, they played a gig in Sydney only a month or so ago - unless your information is more recent than that? - --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Grrr...Arrgh!" -- Mutant - -- 10:09:17 up 11 days, 22:22, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 00:54:55 +0000 From: jjhanson@att.net Subject: RE: how about happy songs? Lone Justice's "Sweet, Sweet Baby (I'm Falling)" works to cheer me up every time. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 18:04:52 -0400 From: weak | a/t widoff Subject: Living room concerts + some more sad songs. Hi there all. I'm a new-comer to this list. A friend of mine told me about the concept of living room concerts and mentioned this list. I'm a musician and I'm very interested in the idea of a network of venues I can feel good about playing. I actually found a group of people doing this in the area and am playing a show for them this weekend. I'm curious to find out more. If anyone has any comments on this, I'd love to hear about it. I've also been noticing the "sad song" thread, and have thought about responding since so much of my work fits that description to a T. I can see that this is a list where people actually talk about things that they love, so I don't want to pollute that with any kind of self-promotion. Still, if anyone's interested, my website is http://www.weakworld.com. Enjoy, T-weak ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 23:43:55 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: Amazing Hi, Just got back from seeing Vienna at the Iron Horse, playing the same piano Tori played when she was there in April of '92. Call me cheezy, but that little fact just struck me as being *so* cool ... anyhoo, that's a whole post of its own that I don't have time for at the moment because I need to go collapse, thanks to the incredible goings-on of *last* night! Paul reviewed: >Last night (Monday) I went to the Knitting Factory to see Beth Sorrentino. >After four songs, I left, bored out of my mind. Wow. woj and I were going to go to this show, but for various reasons just couldn't make it out of New Haven on Monday night. I can guarantee you that would NOT have been our reaction to seeing Beth Sorrentino again for the first time in way too long. :) >I had planned on seeing Vienna Teng at the Bitter End--my calendar said >she went on at 10:30. Unfortunately, she had apparently gone on at 8:00, >so I missed the show. Yeah, Vienna said she felt really bad about that. She didn't know the time had been listed wrong on her web site for a while. >When I descended into the dark cavern, I discovered that there was an >opener. An all-girl Go-Go-wannabe band was jumping up and down on stage: >the Screaming Orphans < http://www.screaming-orphans.com/ >. Overamplified >airheadedness. This was the same band that we fled from after Mila Drumke and Trina Hamlin played at Fez last month. I have no clue why they were playing unannounced before the announced 8 pm show began. I also have no clue why they were so frelling loud ... in that small space, they were Kristeen Young/Throwing Muses loud, and it was painful. I think I would have enjoyed them at least a wee bit if I hadn't been trying to keep my eardrums from leaking out my head. (Picture the Go-Go's with Irish accents. My friend asked me at one point during a rare lull in their assult, "is Irish Bubblegum even a genre?!") In any event, that was just the sour appetizer to make the main course even sweeter. I still officially think that the guy running sound at Fez these days is either tone-deaf or just plain deaf (or both), because every show we've seen there lately has been just a bit too loud for the type of music being played, and moreover he has NO CLUE how to properly mic a female vocal. (When Susan McKeown's voice starts grating on your ears, you know something is terribly wrong.) That said, though, the show lived up to all my expectations and then some. >1. I think this one was "Be My Husband" < >http://www.boscarol.com/nina/html/where/bemyhusband.html > with Dorothy >singing lead and Susan and Sloan doing a hell of a job on backing vocals. >Let's see and I think we had Denise Jolbert on drums, Peter Kiesewalter on >piano, and... was it Stephen Murphy and Doug Wray on guitar and bass? Different bass player -- I have a mental block on his name, it was something Spanish. Definitely not Doug. >7. Susan sang "Salome." You forgot to mention that the sole musical accompaniment on this one was Spurney playing piano (!). Apparently Susan came up with the idea at 4 o'clock that afternoon, and he basically pulled it straight out of his nether regions. It sounded wonderful, and was a totally different take on the song. Amazing. >12. Special guest: Jane Kelly Williams < >http://wfcf.freeservers.com/jkw.html > did a solo singing something that >sounded like its title would have been "Just for This Day." Quiet song but >it came off fine I was stunned to see her take the stage -- it's been eons since she's played in New York! I was also really bummed because as the set had gone on my need to make a pit stop had become more and more urgent, until finally I just couldn't wait any more and as a result missed most of this song. Argh. :P >2. Dorothy invited up Joseph Mahan < http://www.josephmahan.com > who >sang an amazing cover he said was first made famous by Nina Simone--I >later found it was "Wild Is the Wind" by Dimitri Tiomkin and Ned >Washington < http://www.boscarol.com/nina/html/where/wildisthewind.html > He was truly something. Is he a cabaret singer by trade? I got the impression he probably usually performs that song dressed in sequins and high heels... >5. Susan sang "Curiouser" My jaw about hit the floor when she started playing that. I can't remember the last time I heard her play it. >6. Susan sang "River" with Sloan backing And Denise on drums, and of course Spurney too. This was incredible. >1. A Capella trio. I have down "And It's Only Love." Anyway, it was stunning. This was "Heart Like A Wheel", the Kate McGarrigle classic. Made even more incredible when afterwards I heard Sloan nonchalantly mention to someone as she signed a CD that "I remember when I was a kid, like 11 or so going to visit Loudon and Kate up in Boston, sitting on the floor watching her write that song." Holy Crap, is all I have to say. >2. Neil Young's "From Hank to Hendrix" by all three. >2) Liadain Clancy, who I got to meet for the first time, will be doing >some backing vocals for--I think this is right--Marion LoGuidice < >http://www.dirtygoddess.com/ > at Joe's Pub in NYC on August 4. Oooh, I might just go to that for no other reason than to hear Liadain's gorgeous voice again. As much as I love Sloan, I do really miss how her voice and Liadain's sound so incredible together. >3) Susan mentioned to me that she and Sloan (wasn't sure if this included >Dorothy too or not) will be playing upstate in New York in September. I think this is going to be in Oxford, NY the weekend of September 6, if I heard Susan correctly. She also mentioned a gig at the new Living Room in late August, once they've moved into their new location (wherever that is). Dorothy also told me that she definitely wants to get the three of them together for a gig again sometime in the not too distant future. No matter when or where, I'll be there!! =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 23:48:17 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Fwd: Will Anne open for Jewel? It's up to You! :-) Hi, It's time to vote for Anne Heaton so she can open for Jewel ... and find out firsthand the answer to the most insightful question Carson Daly has ever asked, "Just what the hell is going on with you?!" >Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 13:57:32 -0500 >Subject: Will Anne open for Jewel? It's up to You! :-) > >Hi everybody, >* - Oh golly. So, I really went to California, played my two songs, >listened to Jewel play three songs (amazing: see below if you want to know >more about that :-)) and got to meet all of the other finalists (very >talented AND kind people). I got to do all of this because of you, so, >sincerely, thank you. However, it's not over yet! The most crucial part >starts now... > >TODAY, THE *FINAL* ROUND OF VOTING BEGINS TO DETERMINE WHO GETS TO GO ON >TOUR WITH JEWEL AS AN OPENING ACT THIS FALL......IT IS ENTIRELY DECIDED BY >THE ONLINE VOTING OF KIND PEOPLE LIKE YOU! > >SO, PLEASE VOTE!!! THE VOTING WILL LAST ONE FULL WEEK (starting RIGHT NOW, >Wednesday 6/25 until midnight central time, Wednesday 7/1) so it's >important to vote EVERY DAY STARTING TODAY if you can. > >HOW TO VOTE: > >go to http://www.soulcitycafe.com/vote/finalistvote.asp?contestid=9 > >or http://www.soulcitycafe.com and then click on "Go To Vote Page" or >"Final Voting Week" > >PS: You have to vote for both a band and a solo artist in order for your >ballot to be processed. > >AGAIN, (just to reiterate :-)) TWO IMPORTANT THINGS TO REMEMBER ABOUT VOTING >1) You can vote everyday (or every 24 hours) and it's important to vote >everyday because it's like multiplying yourself by seven! (I know you're >thinking: "Hey, I've always wanted to multiply myself by seven! What a >neat opportunity!") > >2) Your friends can vote everyday too so please encourage them as well - >If you have 10 friends (I'm not sure if I have that many (I think I have >4), but *you* might have 10 ;-), then that would be 70 votes! I love numbers! > >Much love and THANK YOU SO MUCH from the bottom of my heart!!!! Vote early, and vote often! =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #183 **************************