From: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org (ecto-digest) To: ecto-digest@smoe.org Subject: ecto-digest V9 #169 Reply-To: ecto@smoe.org Sender: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-ecto-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk ecto-digest Monday, June 16 2003 Volume 09 : Number 169 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Today's your birthday, friends... [Mike Matthews ] RE: Ecto Music [Phillip Hudson ] Terami and Natalie at the Dolores Park Cafe [Phillip Hudson ] RE: First mention of Tori ["William Mazur" ] OT: Sorry for all the bouncing [Philip David Morgan ] Fwd: The case of the one-ton tomato -- and why the ants are our friends [] Re: Fwd: The case of the one-ton tomato -- and why the ants are our friends [alan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 03:00:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Matthews Subject: Today's your birthday, friends... i*i*i*i*i*i i*i*i*i*i*i *************** *****HAPPY********* **************BIRTHDAY********* *************************************************** *************************************************************************** ******************* Mark R. Susskind (no Email address) ******************* ******************** Dave Upham (dupham@canoemail.com) ******************** *************************************************************************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mark R. Susskind Wed June 15 1966 Gemini Dave Upham Sun June 15 1958 Gemini Mike Matthews Mon June 16 1969 Pr. SAFH Albert Philipsen Mon June 17 1968 Gemini Neal R. Copperman Thu June 17 1965 Gemini Susan Kay Anderson Tue June 17 1969 Gemini Ecto-The Mailing List Tue June 18 1991 Fuzzy blue Tracy Barber Mon June 18 1956 Gemini Greg Dunn Thu June 18 1953 + Paul Blair Thu June 18 1964 Objectivist Mike Connell Sat June 18 1955 Apollo David Lubkin Fri June 20 1958 OurLady Marisa Wood Fri June 20 1969 Gemini Cheri Villines Sun June 20 1965 Gemini-Leo rising Ray Misra Sat June 20 1970 Gemini Nik Popa Sun June 22 1969 Cancer Teresa VanDyne Thu June 23 1960 Cancer Dave Torok Mon June 24 1968 Cancer Ethan Straffin Thu June 24 1971 Cancer Kevin Dekan Mon June 27 1960 Cancer Samantha Tanner Tue June 30 1970 Wild Goose BunkyTom Tue July 02 1968 Cancer Anders Hallberg Tue July 03 1962 Cancer Kevin Harkins Thu July 05 1973 Cancer Laurel Krahn Mon July 05 1971 Cancer John J Henshon Mon July 05 1954 The Year Of The Horse / Ruled By The Moon Jim Gurley Mon July 06 1959 Cancer Lisa Rouchka Fri July 08 1960 Moonchild with Java Rising Courtney Dallas Fri July 09 1971 Catte Michael Peskura Sat July 09 1949 HallOfFamer Finney T. Tsai Sat July 09 1966 Cancer Larry Greenfield Tue July 11 1950 Virgo Rising; Gemini Moon Marion Kippers Tue July 13 1965 Kreeft Ellen Rawson Thu July 13 1961 Double Cancer Mitch Pravatiner Mon July 14 1952 Cancer R. Rapp Wed July 14 1954 On a Gray Eye Sojourn - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 01:01:25 -0700 From: Phillip Hudson Subject: RE: Ecto Music Lyle's idea is very interesting; there are a lot of players on this list, many of whom have unpublished stuff recorded already, if you're talking another CD. I'd love to hear something from anyone on the list who plays. I like the loops idea too, and not just because we could call it Ectopaloopa, (but probably wouldn't for reasons of taste). What I think would be really fun would be to make the individual tracks available, so anyone with the right software could do their own mixes, or add instrumentation of their own. I've got demo copies of multitrack software that people can have, plus there are some downnloads available on the web. Maybe Happy might throw some tracks out there so we could do our own personal Happy mixes?. David Bowie ( I think) had a thing on his website once where you could run your own mix of a song; it was really interesting to just go in and isolate the different audio elements to see what was happening. I wonder if that interface is available somewhere. Phil - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Lyle Howard Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:16 AM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: Ecto Music Howdy, Seeing Susan Court's name mentioned (twice) reminded me of all the musicians lurking on the ecto list. If I recall correctly it has been two years since ectophiles attempted to gather together handmade-homemade music for the perusal/ignoring of the world. Do I hear a faint scream from the east coast, coming from the general direction of Foghorn J. Foghorn? Or maybe that is a Phil Hudsony echo from the west coast. Anyway if we start today and work very hard we could have some kind of music agglomeration in a couple of years. It seems that every third person on this list is a musician. It would be nice to see (hear) what everyone does musically. For those groaning at the thought of recording a two or three minute song, I suggest collaboration with other musicians. In fact, I suppose we could put up a bunch of loops somewhere and use those as a foundation for some sort of music. Ecto-karaoke. Just an idle thought. Don't shoot me. Lyle _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail - --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/2003 - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 03:41:47 -0700 From: Phillip Hudson Subject: Terami and Natalie at the Dolores Park Cafe Missed half of Terami's set because Mission Dolores is parking Hell, despite the inordinate number of churches. Sat down, blissed out on that lovely voice, and forgot the day's problems in about 3 milliseconds. I missed Terami's last gig in the city and was determined to see her at this one. She's playing a new Korg piano, is looking quite relaxed behind it and generally looks like she's really enjoying herself. She's been out on the road with Natalie for quite a while now and there was a subtle sheen of polish and familiarity in her performance. It was like having a musical friend come over to your house and play songs for a while. It's always a treat to see Terami, as she is a most generous and gentle spirit in addition to her prodigous musical skills. I don't know which songs I missed, and can't remember most of the ones she played, so I won't go there: suffice to say that if you haven't checked out her music yet, you are missing out on some very lovely material. www.terami.com She also had a great t-shirt, which bore the tongue-in-cheek motto "Faeries Suck" in large, friendly letters. (I tried to find one tonight on the web but they're sold out). Terami will be playing a 2 hour set at the Global Village Cafe in Mountain View on june 19th. See you there. I had not heard Natalie Wattre before this show and was totally amazed by her performance. Natalie has not only a very beautiful, versatile voice but also an incredibly powerful one, which she uses to great effect. Her songs are stark, evocative, and delivered with intense passion, and she pounds her Washburn guitar with such force and energy that it looks like the instrument will just break apart at any minute. Natalie made me want to go home and play my guitar ( only not quite as hard ;) and sing as loud as I could ( which I later did, to the undisguised dismay of my neighbors). Her whole performance was riveting, culminating with an amazing song called " I will comfort you". http://www.wattremusic.com She also entertained us immensely with funny impromptu chats from the stage with Terami, once to inform Terami that someone behind her was trying to get her attention, and again later to order some food before the kitchen closed. ( how is it that the writers of really serious songs are all crack-ups in between their numbers? Happy is a classic example of this phenomena; listening to something like "Winter" or "Tragic", you'd think she spent most of her free time haunting a bog, but onstage she is a total riot of irreverence and humor). The cafe itself didn't have the best accoustics; lots of glass and sheetrock made for a sound that was too bright for my personal taste, but the high ceilings helped.They had tiny little wall mount speakers that they were using as PA, and I was kind of surprised at first that they survived the power of Natalie's voice; the first time she kicked it into high gear, I thought they would be seriously toast,. but they held up very well. I'll have to find out what they are. And of course, in all the post show confusion, I forgot to buy CDs. Apologies to any Ectos I missed saying Hi to after the show ( Hi Emily!). Phil - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 04:21:01 -0700 From: Phillip Hudson Subject: RE: Patti Smith Free Concert, Berkeley, June 15 >Oh! That reminds me: Patti Smith is playing a free antiwar benefit >concert Sunday afternoon at 1 PM in MLK Jr. Park in Berkeley. >http://www.actionsf.org/#local1 I believe Ecto's Noe Venable will be playing there too. I just discovered her website, there are some beautiful tracks on it. www.noevenable.com phil - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 07:29:35 -0400 From: Mark Susskind Subject: Re: Today's your birthday, friends... > Mike Matthews wrote: > >> *****HAPPY********* >> **************BIRTHDAY********* >> ******************* Mark R. Susskind (no Email address) >> ******************* >> ******************** Dave Upham (dupham@canoemail.com) >> ******************** >> > Well, thank you for remembering me in your birthday wishes, but I > haven't had anything to say for a long time. > > For those who still know who I am, I have given up attending live > music concerts and I took down the website I was maintaining in > support of those concerts. > > I still play CDs, but they are little more than background to give my > ears something to do besides hear the computer's fans or the > ventilation system. > > Happy Fathers' Day ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:08:04 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: RE: fx of physical media (was: First mention of Tori) On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, William Mazur wrote: > I can completely relate to what Woj says about things getting physically > engrained in your memory. > > I had recorded the Moody Blues' "In Search of the Lost Chord" onto > cassette from my copy of the original LP. Although I didn't realize it > at the time, as I was recording a copy to cassette, the record skipped > on one line of "Voices in the Sky" and jumbled two words together. back when i thought playing fast and playing well were the same, a friend dubbed a copy of a couple of albums by brit hard rockers ufo, who featured lightning-fast guitarist michael schenker. i guess he wasn't in the room the whole time he was taping the album, and on one or two of the guitar solos the record skipped just two or three times. the drums and stayed close enough to in-time that it didn't bug my untrained ear back then -- i didn't know that the record had skipped. but the guitar almost seemed to stutter -- it repeated in the middle of a longish improvisation it repeated a sequence of 8 notes three times and then flowed on. i thought it was the coolest damn thing. it influenced my aesthetic sense of improvisation. i was crushingly disappointed when i bought my own copy of the record and it didn't do that anymore. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:17:59 -0400 From: meredith Subject: RE: fx of physical media (was: First mention of Tori) I'm starting to wonder if I should be worried that I have so many examples to contribute to this thread. :} But I keep getting reminded of things ... dmw posted: >i guess he wasn't in the room the whole time he was taping the album, and >on one or two of the guitar solos the record skipped just two or three >times. the drums and stayed close enough to in-time that it didn't bug my >untrained ear back then -- i didn't know that the record had skipped. but >the guitar almost seemed to stutter -- it repeated in the middle of a >longish improvisation it repeated a sequence of 8 notes three times and >then flowed on. > >i thought it was the coolest damn thing. it influenced my aesthetic sense >of improvisation. i was crushingly disappointed when i bought my own copy >of the record and it didn't do that anymore. Back in college, for a few semesters I read the 6:00 news on the radio station one day a week. One semester, the show that was on in the slot preceding the news was experimental/avant garde music. The DJ would usually put on an entire CD of Cage, or Xenakis, or whatever and then leave the building until it was time to come back and do a station ID and put another CD in. My news colleagues *hated* the show, but, freak that I am I loved it. One day, he put on a CD of some Richard Stoltzman-like clarinet thing (hell, it probably *was* Stoltzman) and took off. I wasn't paying much attention, concentrating on getting the broadcast together, but after a while I did notice that that particular piece's looping was a bit more schizoid than one usually heard. Oh yeah, and it wasn't changing. In fact, it sounded downright digital. Must've been a new release, I shrugged, and went back to the news. About ten minutes later, the DJ came running in like he was being attacked, skidded to a stop in front of the CD player, and gave it a whack. All of a sudden there was real clarinet music again. Turned out the CD had been skipping for the past 20 minutes, and nobody noticed. =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 12:52:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mitchell A. Pravatiner" Subject: Local summer gigs A couple of upcoming club dates in Chicago that may be of interest to local ectophiles: Saturday, June 21, Antje and other artists from her Sweet Pickle label will do a date celebrating the first day of summer, at the Wise Fools Pub, 2270 N. Lincoln. Urban Twang comes on at 9, Antje at 10, Kerri Grant at 11. For more information visit www.sweetpicklemusic.com . The Blue Lit Souls will have a release party for their new CD Saturday, June 28, at Nevin's, in the 1400 block of Sherman (near Lake) in Evanston. The postcard I received didn't list a time; that is probably available on their website, www.bluelitsouls.com , which I was unable to access because I allegedly need a later browser release. Go figure. Antje and the BLS are both excellent independent local artists whosde music I am confident ectophiles will enjoy. Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:00:35 -0700 From: "William Mazur" Subject: RE: First mention of Tori Michael, Thanks for sharing this early interview with Tori. Very cool! Lots of interesting insights. The two that made me smile was that Tori likes AbFab (one of my favorites) and the reference that PG uses of the "dirt" and Happy uses of the "monsters". Those concepts seem to be universal. Bill - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Michael Pearce Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 5:04 PM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: Re: First mention of Tori At 11:15 PM -0400 6/13/03, broadway jack wrote: >one time at band camp, Xenus Sister said: >>Courtney Dallas gets the credit: > >somewhere around here, i still have the tape of little earthquakes court >sent me way back when. the funny thing about it is that she switched two >songs around to make it fit better on a c90 cassette. the end result being >that i am always surprised when, listening to the real album, "tear in your >hand" comes on instead of "little earthquakes". very interesting how >listening to something over and over gets ingrained in practically physical >memory. > >woj It was that tape that got me turned on to Tori and when she came to town I wangled a telephone interview with her "for the Internet." Funny how quaint that sounds now, but as Tori knew back then, the Net was something special. All of the questions I asked her were supplied by Ecto-folk. I still have that interview up on my site at http://www.moonmac.com/ToriInterview.html. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 15:26:57 -0400 From: Philip David Morgan Subject: OT: Sorry for all the bouncing Mina-san, kon nichi wa (and yes, I have been turning Japanese for the longest time): I'll keep this brief for obvious reasons. I'm apologizing to the Ecto posse for any and all bouncing back of messages that I was supposed to get. SuffolkNet (our library system's free Net service) was apparently testing out SpamAssassin and apparently had it going in "overkill" mode. And it wasn't just happening to Ecto, but to every other mailing list I'm on as well. Mercifully, someone must have gotten my message to the SuffolkNet techies, as I'm hearing from everyone once again. My thanks to everyone, and I'm sorry for any and all inconvenience. Now, er, where were we? Mata ne! Philip David 2003.06.15 - --- The Polly Stephanson Project - looking good in Mozilla and Opera (we hope to test with Arachne shortly) - http://homepage.mac.com/pollyshows/ - --- "Now go back and finish your oatmeal." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:15:51 -0700 From: "Phillip Hudson" Subject: RE: fx of physical media (was: First mention of Tori) I once learned to play Richard Thompson's "Vincent Black Lightning 1952" from a CD that stuttered and leapt both back and forth throughout the signature fingerpicked intro, which is about 40 seconds long ( I never could tell for sure!). As a result, I learned it, not only differently from the recording, but in a completely different chord phrasing, which turned out to be about 3x more difficult than the original. Not as sad as Rod Stewart though, who once secretly devoted a year of his life to learning to play a mandolin that was never tuned to the standard intervals. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-ecto@smoe.org [mailto:owner-ecto@smoe.org]On Behalf Of meredith Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 8:18 AM To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: RE: fx of physical media (was: First mention of Tori) I'm starting to wonder if I should be worried that I have so many examples to contribute to this thread. :} But I keep getting reminded of things ... dmw posted: >i guess he wasn't in the room the whole time he was taping the album, and >on one or two of the guitar solos the record skipped just two or three >times. the drums and stayed close enough to in-time that it didn't bug my >untrained ear back then -- i didn't know that the record had skipped. but >the guitar almost seemed to stutter -- it repeated in the middle of a >longish improvisation it repeated a sequence of 8 notes three times and >then flowed on. > >i thought it was the coolest damn thing. it influenced my aesthetic sense >of improvisation. i was crushingly disappointed when i bought my own copy >of the record and it didn't do that anymore. Back in college, for a few semesters I read the 6:00 news on the radio station one day a week. One semester, the show that was on in the slot preceding the news was experimental/avant garde music. The DJ would usually put on an entire CD of Cage, or Xenakis, or whatever and then leave the building until it was time to come back and do a station ID and put another CD in. My news colleagues *hated* the show, but, freak that I am I loved it. One day, he put on a CD of some Richard Stoltzman-like clarinet thing (hell, it probably *was* Stoltzman) and took off. I wasn't paying much attention, concentrating on getting the broadcast together, but after a while I did notice that that particular piece's looping was a bit more schizoid than one usually heard. Oh yeah, and it wasn't changing. In fact, it sounded downright digital. Must've been a new release, I shrugged, and went back to the news. About ten minutes later, the DJ came running in like he was being attacked, skidded to a stop in front of the CD player, and gave it a whack. All of a sudden there was real clarinet music again. Turned out the CD had been skipping for the past 20 minutes, and nobody noticed. =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://muzak.smoe.org =============================================== - --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/2003 - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:42:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Ellen Rawson Subject: Jewel on Conan On Sky in the UK, CNBC runs two eps of Jay Leno and one of Conan on Sunday nights. By sheer accident, I turned on Conan in time to hear we had the episode last week Jewel on it. (You never know which one they'll air.) So we watched. My reaction: Oh, my gawd... Scary that. Ellen ===== "Literature stops in 1100. After that, it's just books." - -- JRR Tolkien ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 15:58:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Neb Rodgers Subject: Fwd: The case of the one-ton tomato -- and why the ants are our friends Rock the Catbox! - -Neb - ---Original Message--- The case of the one-ton tomato -- and why the ants are our friends Tue Jun 10, 1:33 AM ET Add Offbeat - AFP to My Yahoo! http://tinylink.com/?rLAIJTqAHM PARIS(AFP) - Mark Raboo speaks of the moment when he wished the floor had opened and swallowed him, and all because of some misheard lyrics. The 24-year-old was jamming with a rock band when a guitarist launched into the opening chords of The Who classic "I Can't Explain," and he joined in on vocals. "The real lyrics were 'A certain kind, can't explain'," says Raboo. "But I misheard them as 'Been circumsized, can't explain.' The laughter ended that cover pretty quickly..." For Lisa -- her last name understandably remains under wraps -- public death by ridicule occurred when she took the microphone at a karaoke party to celebrate her 20th birthday. Her nemesis, in front of 250 guests, was Marvin Gaye's "Sexual Healing." The real lyrics ("Darling, you're so great/I can't wait for you to operate") had always been understood by Lisa to be "Darling, you're so great/I can't wait for you to ovulate". "Hilarity ensued," Lisa recalls bleakly. Mark and Lisa are casualties of something called a mondegreen: when you mishear a lyric in a song and even if the words seem a bit daft or total nonsense, they simply stay in your head and you always sing them that way. Until now, mondegreens were obscure. They were a closet of private shame and humiliation that few wished to open up to the world. But the arena of Internet, with its mixture of openness and selective privacy, has changed all that. Mondegreens are now a tribal phenomenon, breeding numerous collectors' sites on the Internet where victims, including Mark and Lisa (see below), register their self-mangled versions of pop lyrics and compare them, sometimes with dismay, to what the true lyrics were. There is even a popular book, "'Scuse Me, While I Kiss This Guy" (named after a widely-misheard line in the Jimi Hendrix song "Purple Haze" -- "'Scuse me, while I kiss the sky"). The book's compiler, Gavin Edwards, has a treasure chest of mondegreens. Remember the opening line to David Bowie's "Space Oddity"? Could it really have been "Clown control to Mao Tse-tung"? What about that raw song by punk group The Clash, "Rock the Casbah," misheard by some sad individual as "Rock the Catbox"? And The Eurythmics' "Sweet dreams are made of cheese"? Or that memorable line in the Beatles' "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds," when "The girl with colitis goes by"? Then there is that Bob Dylan protest song with the refrain, "The ants are our friends/They're blowin' in the wind," and the Cuban song "Guantanamera," which some mondegreen victim, presumably not a Spanish speaker, construed as "One-ton tomato." Spare a thought for the unfortunate who misheard a line from Irene Cara's "Flashdance" ("Take your passion and make it happen") and spent much of his life singing it as "Take your pants down and make it happen." Pop music is not the only source of mondegreens. Hymns and national anthems are also a rich vein, and many of the victims are the innocent young. Jon Carroll, a San Francisco Chronicle columnist and mondegreen collector, says the most frequent submission to his "Center for the Humane Study of Mondegreens" is "Gladly, my cross-eyed bear" -- a distortion of an old hymn, "Gladly My Cross I'd Bear". He also recounts the wee lad down under who sang his national anthem ("Australians all, let us rejoice") as "Australians all love ostriches". Why are they called "mondegreens"? The term was invented in 1954 by a writer, Sylvia Wright, who described how she had misheard part of a Scottish ballad, "The Bonny Earl of Murray." "They hae slay the Earl of Murray/And Lady Mondegreen," was how Wright interpreted a stanza. For years, Wright mused about the enigmatic Lady Mondegreen who had died so tragically with her liege. Only later, much later, did she discover that the villains had slain the Earl of Murray -- and laid him on the green. - ------------ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 07:46:47 -0700 (PDT) From: alan Subject: Re: Fwd: The case of the one-ton tomato -- and why the ants are our friends On Sun, 15 Jun 2003, Neb Rodgers wrote: > and the Cuban song > "Guantanamera," which some mondegreen victim, presumably not a Spanish > speaker, construed as "One-ton tomato." Michael Nesmith in "Television Parts". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 05:29:27 +0000 From: "Lyle Howard" Subject: American Mavericks Bon Soir, I hope you folks have been enjoying the American Mavericks series on your local PBS radio station. It is hosted by Suzanne Vega and is about people like Harry Partch, John Cage, Phillip Glass, Steve Reich, etc. They haven't mentioned Moondog yet, who is my favorite. Here is where you get info on the program: http://www.musicmavericks.org/programs/program5.html Listening reminded me of a book some of you might like to read. _Ocean of Sound_ by David Toop. It is about ambient and minimalist music and mentions some of the people covered by the American Mavericks show. I watched the Beach Boys movie on TV Saturday night (ABC). It was pretty awful, but how do you make movies about making art anyway? Once you've shot a picture of Brian Wilson in bed, you don't have anywhere else to go. The Wilsons seem like any other family in American, except for the fine singing, top-notch song writing, and the insanity. The makers of the movie did as good a job as can probably be done. Much better than the glimpse of Brian Wilson in _Grace of My Heart_. (The producers get credit for including a facsimile of bassist Carol Kaye, who played bass on many Beach Boys songs. She was a member of the Wrecking Crew.) Bye, Lyle _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ End of ecto-digest V9 #169 **************************